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Old 19th February 2019, 02:36 AM   #201
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Old 19th February 2019, 02:37 AM   #202
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Old 19th February 2019, 03:44 AM   #203
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Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim View Post
this is some pants-soiling scary stuff.
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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander View Post
Stone is eat-the-snake crazy and has been for many years.
Maybe.

Right now he may be playing some sort of “martyr card”, and revoked bail would fit right in with that scheme.

One wonders if incarceration will affect his apparent feeling of invulnerability, or somehow play into it. My guess is that an extended stay in jail might shake his confidence in his selected course of action. Even if he’s playing for an eventual pardon, the reality of a finite portion of his life on this mortal coil being spent in jail may jolt him back to the seriousness of his situation.

Still curious to see if the judge revokes his bail today or in the near future. I’m betting yes, but lots of factors must be going through the judge’s mind today.
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Old 19th February 2019, 06:16 AM   #205
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
this is some pants-soiling scary stuff.
Boo! I can't read tweets from here!
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Old 19th February 2019, 06:21 AM   #206
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Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim View Post
https://twitter.com/kathrynw5/status...93941795500032



Quote embedded in tweet. Essentially "it wasn't a threat, but people are misinterpreting it as such so even though it's 100% factual I'm taking it down". There are a couple of follow-ups in the subsequent tweets.
"It would be unfortunate if your wife and children were to meet with some terrible accident. A car crash, for example, or if they were to be caught in some random drive-by shooting. Very unfortunate.

What? No, it wasn't a threat, just the simple fact that it would be . . . unfortunate."
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Old 19th February 2019, 06:27 AM   #207
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Boo! I can't read tweets from here!
It basically describes a shadow war within the FBI of anti-Clintonista vs. Comey, supporting and coordinating with the Trump Campaign to keep the investigation into Clinton going.
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Old 19th February 2019, 06:32 AM   #208
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
It basically describes a shadow war within the FBI of anti-Clintonista vs. Comey, supporting and coordinating with the Trump Campaign to keep the investigation into Clinton going.
Ok now I need to see those tweets! Get to it!
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So Roger Stone going all-in for a Trump pardon? Can't see any other reason to personally antagonize a judge that will decide whether or not you get to be a free man in the near future.
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The problem with that strategy is that Trump, while demanding loyalty, has none towards anyone.
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Old 19th February 2019, 06:40 AM   #211
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Originally Posted by Belz... View Post
The problem with that strategy is that Trump, while demanding loyalty, has none towards anyone.
Even if there is a pardon, who knows when that might actually happen. Pardoning these people would probably be an act of desperation for Trump, and would likely only occur in an end-game situation, either facing impeachment or as a lame duck. Roger Stone better be hoping for Trump to lose re-election and/or be facing impeachment soon, or he might have to wait in jail for some time.

But yeah, I don't see Trump sticking his neck out for his sacrificed pawns unless it is necessary for his own survival or unless it costs him nothing.
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Hopefully sooner or later everybody outside of the major players in all of this are going to start to realize that turning on Trump gives them better "saving your bacon" odds then hoping Trump will save them.

And honestly that's the bait I'd dangle if I was the Dems. Sure the inner circle goes down, no questions, no excuses but the players at the periphery are worth throwing a bone to see if they can be turned.

Some "Has enough evidence on Trump to do damage but didn't do so much evil himself that making a deal with them doesn't stain our soul" balance of a person has to exist in that clustertruck somewhere.
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Old 19th February 2019, 06:54 AM   #213
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Even if there is a pardon, who knows when that might actually happen. Pardoning these people would probably be an act of desperation for Trump, and would likely only occur in an end-game situation, either facing impeachment or as a lame duck. Roger Stone better be hoping for Trump to lose re-election and/or be facing impeachment soon, or he might have to wait in jail for some time.

But yeah, I don't see Trump sticking his neck out for his sacrificed pawns unless it is necessary for his own survival or unless it costs him nothing.
Just to point out one detail that you may not be aware of.

The President cannot 'pardon' his way out of his own crimes. After all, the constitution specifically forbids the use of pardons in the case of impeachment (Article 2, Section 2).
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Old 19th February 2019, 06:58 AM   #214
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Originally Posted by Crossbow View Post
Just to point out one detail that you may not be aware of.

The President cannot 'pardon' his way out of his own crimes. After all, the constitution specifically forbids the use of pardons in the case of impeachment (Article 2, Section 2).
Sure, but he might pardon all his cronies in an attempt to get them to keep quiet and stay loyal. HW Bush pretty much pardoned everyone involved with Iran Contra and it worked pretty well to keep him from being personally implicated. Fortunately, Trump lacks the competence of the Reagan/Bush administrations.

If Trump sees an impeachment coming down the pike, who knows what he'll do.
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Old 19th February 2019, 07:01 AM   #215
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So Trump hired a liar and backstabbing snake? ( According to TBD)
Only the best people...
Super example of the Rule of So!

Trump did not hire McCabe.... hoo boy....
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The President cannot 'pardon' his way out of his own crimes. After all, the constitution specifically forbids the use of pardons in the case of impeachment (Article 2, Section 2).
And this would be different from all the other things Trump can't do that he absolutely can do because nobody stops him... how exactly?

"But... but you can't do that!" sounds like the adults talking on the Peanuts cartoon to Trump and hasn't exactly been very effective in getting him to not do things.
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And this would be different from all the other things Trump can't do that he absolutely can do because nobody stops him... how exactly?

"But... but you can't do that!" sounds like the adults talking on the Peanuts cartoon to Trump and hasn't exactly been very effective in getting him to not do things.
Yes, the legislative branch is the one tasked with checking his power, and the Republicans are happy to see it become subservient to the Executive. I don't see that changing unless more D's take both houses, or the R's have an abrupt change of heart.
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Say, lets take a gander at what Seth Abramson, poet/grifter, has to say about last night's big interviewed with repeated fraudster Andy McCabe:



Ah, he has written extensively about it! well then....

Just kidding totally untrue, as everyone know McCabe and his unruly gang of Trump haters slow walked the revelation of the Weiner laptop until after McCabe's wife taking contributions were published in the WSJ, and not only did Comey not got threatened, he didn't even know what was on the laptop, and when he did, he immediately ordered the investigation reopened.

McCabe is a total slimbag, and the fact that Seth is on the case trying to rehabilitate that loser tells you all you need to know about him.
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If you have something to add to that nonsense, please do so. You would have been better off reading this thread, of course, because I demolished Seth's nonsense yesterday by applying the time to first lie rule, and Seth came out swinging with lies right out of the gate.

Interesting how often people link to the Poet's musings rather than sharing their own comments.... hmmmm
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If you have something to add to that nonsense, please do so. You would have been better off reading this thread, of course, because I demolished Seth's nonsense yesterday by applying the time to first lie rule, and Seth came out swinging with lies right out of the gate.
"demolished" Seth's nonsense? LMFAO!

Sorry, you are more wrong than a broken clock. But that isn't news to anyone
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Old 19th February 2019, 07:45 AM   #221
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Originally Posted by dasmiller View Post
"It would be unfortunate if your wife and children were to meet with some terrible accident. A car crash, for example, or if they were to be caught in some random drive-by shooting. Very unfortunate.

What? No, it wasn't a threat, just the simple fact that it would be . . . unfortunate."
As an aside, Roger stone's head shape is almost enough to make me believe in phrenology.

He seems to lack a back to his skull

https://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newsc...4.fit-760w.jpg
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As an aside, Roger stone's head shape is almost enough to make me believe in phrenology.

He seems to lack a back to his skull

https://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newsc...4.fit-760w.jpg
Along the same lines, why does he constantly flap his gums?

I don't mean this as a euphemism for diarrhea of the mouth. I mean actual, weird mouth movements while not talking.
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Old 19th February 2019, 08:34 AM   #223
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Along the same lines, why does he constantly flap his gums?

I don't mean this as a euphemism for diarrhea of the mouth. I mean actual, weird mouth movements while not talking.
Luckily, I've never watched video of him. Just read articles.
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Jesus cow-tipping Christ!

With all of the trouble that Stone is in, I never expected him to be so incredibly stupid as to insult/threaten the judge who is on his case.

I know that Trump is that stupid, but I never expected Stone to be that stupid.
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"Oh man. We drew Judge Spicer."
"Is that bad?"
"Well he's sorta had in for me ever since I accidentally ran over his dog. Only replace accidentally with repeatedly.... and dog with son."
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"Oh man. We drew Judge Spicer."
"Is that bad?"
"Well he's sorta had in for me ever since I accidentally ran over his dog. Only replace accidentally with repeatedly.... and dog with son."
"I call for a bad court thingy."
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Not sure if this is the right place for it, but apparently Roger Stone posted a picture of the judge overseeing his case in DC. Not noteworthy in and of itself. The fact that the picture had crosshairs on it might be of interest to the judge.
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Threatening any judge is an act of pure stupidity; threatening the judge who is hearing your case? I mean, what the actual **** was Roger Stone thinking?
My belief is that the picture with the crosshairs was accident/an oversight, and that Stone just happened to pick the first image that he came across and posted it without paying too much attention. (i.e. no specific threat intended.) The reason? Because I can't see any real benefit to doing that to a judge, and we've seen other people make similar mistakes.

That doesn't mean I'm absolving Stone. After all, he should be keeping his mouth shut and not posting ANYTHING about the judge or the case. Plus, as another poster pointed out, the source of that particular image seems to be linked to a web site that posts anti-semetiic nonsense... If someone is making references to those types of sites, you should be questioning their integrity. (e.g. in a "do you really read playboy for the articles" sort of way.)
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Placing crosshairs "somewhere" is one thing.

When the crosshairs dominate basically the only void space left by the cropped photo on top of it, it becomes far less plausible.
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It is hilarious to see the left/resistance including stone cold grifters like Seth Abramson swooning over Andy McCabe.

Lets remember what the OIG said about Andy's veracity:

https://oig.justice.gov/reports/2018/o20180413.pdf
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https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/...80949935800320

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Oh boy. Judge Amy Berman Jackson doesn't seem happy with Roger Stone.
Document embedded in tweet. And, yeah, she doesn't seem like she's especially pleased.
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In his book, McCabe briefly explains that he informed lawmakers about the case files opened on 4 individuals connected to the Trump campaign, and then "told them of additional steps we had taken. No one interrupted. No one pushed back. The mood in the room was sober."
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The inability of a lot of these people to even grasp the basic concept of "Okay now's the time to switch from offense to defense" is rather staggering.

You double down on a 11 when the dealer is showing a 6. If you're crazy you double down on a 9 when the dealer is showing a 10. When the dealer is showing an ace and you've already busted, and you just realized you're actually playing poker, stop doubling down.
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Stone's been ordered to court to explain the instagram post
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Jesus cow-tipping Christ!

With all of the trouble that Stone is in, I never expected him to be so incredibly stupid as to insult/threaten the judge who is on his case.

I know that Trump is that stupid, but I never expected Stone to be that stupid.
It makes perfect sense if Stone is shooting for a pardon. It's giving Trump cover to claim that the judge is clearly biased and possibly even treasonous.

Or if Stone's a wacko with a martyr complex. Either way.
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Old 19th February 2019, 09:11 AM   #235
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It is hilarious to see the left/resistance including stone cold grifters like Seth Abramson swooning over Andy McCabe.
You do realise at this point that no one takes anything you say seriously, right?
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Freddy: I'll kill you! I'll kill all of you, especially those of you in the jury!
[Man on the jury mutters, "He's clearly guilty"]
Lawyer: Wow, that didn't go well. The defense rests.
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Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim View Post
https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/...80949935800320



Document embedded in tweet. And, yeah, she doesn't seem like she's especially pleased.
Lovely comment on the tweet:

Judge Jackson should leave no Stone uninterned.
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
Freddy: I'll kill you! I'll kill all of youlike I killed the victim, especially those of you in the jury!
[Man on the jury mutters, "He's clearly guilty"]
Lawyer: Wow, that didn't go well. The defense rests.
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Popehat article about Stone threatening/implying she's biased Jackson

It's waiting for an addendum re the latest news, which makes some of his last paragraph seem a little less likely.
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Originally Posted by Delphic Oracle View Post
Placing crosshairs "somewhere" is one thing.
When the crosshairs dominate basically the only void space left by the cropped photo on top of it, it becomes far less plausible.
First of all, I don't think the crosshairs were 'placed'. Given the angle, it looks like the crosshairs were part of the writing on the background.

Now, its possible that the creators of the image did intend to imply it as some sort of threat. But then, Stone wasn't the original creator of the image.

Its not the first time he has posted images without thinking... He once posted a picture of Himself, Trump and a bunch of other associates wearing space suits (in honor of Trump's plan to create "Space Force".) The problem is, the suits they were wearing had swastika on them.

https://www.newsweek.com/roger-stone...stikas-1072213

Again, I'm not saying this to absolve Stone. From what we know, he definitely belongs in jail, for a long long time. And he should definitely have kept clear of posting ANYTHING about the judge or the case. I'm just not convinced the 'crosshair image' was actually posted as a threat by Stone aimed at the judge.
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