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Old 30th September 2019, 09:26 AM   #241
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And this is why even with things I literally hate, I mean full on distaste in the core of my beaning I try, I said try, to never let accurate terminology that simply neutrally describes things become all purpose insults.

I doesn't exactly lend itself to ye' ole Algonquin Round Table atmosphere.
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Old 30th September 2019, 10:12 AM   #242
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Originally Posted by rockysmith76 View Post
You are the sad devotee to the Clinton machine
That is sublimely ironic given your earlier post saying that "you assume because I dislike Hillary I must be a Trump guy, you would be wrong." I actually don't give a rat's ass about Hillary Clinton. She's far from being a candidate of choice for me.

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she had no business having her toilet server
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and she screwed Bernie.
Unsupported assertion. You keep making claims without demonstrating them.

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Old 30th September 2019, 10:14 AM   #243
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Originally Posted by rockysmith76 View Post
How sad the Clinton haze has you so blinded, but Liberal is liberal and you are wrong.
Who says I'm a liberal?

Another flaw of the two party system, you assume because I dislike Trump I must be a Hillary guy, you would be wrong.
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Old 30th September 2019, 10:16 AM   #244
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This is why everyone should have their character sheets fully updated at all times and should remember to distribute them to newcomers.
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Old 30th September 2019, 10:22 AM   #245
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Originally Posted by rockysmith76 View Post
Minimally better.

You are the sad devotee to the Clinton machine, she had no business having her toilet server and she screwed Bernie. Repetition of your nonsense doesnt make you right it makes you repetitive, Toilet Server Denier.

And still so wrong.

First of all, I believe the correct term is "unsecure and unapproved cowboy bathroom server."

Second of all, it's simply not true:
https://www.denverpost.com/2015/08/1...ver-in-denver/

But you don't seem like the kind of thinker who will let facts get in the way of their views ... so carry on.

PS - I hope biden is done
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Old 30th September 2019, 10:24 AM   #246
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He's somehow seemingly mixed up HRC with Debbie Wasserman Schultz. That's where I'm assuming he's coming up with the "Hillary screwed Bernie" line, anyhow.
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I just think it's in our best interest if the Dems pick a goddamn horse already.

So I hope either Biden or Warren are done soon.
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Old 30th September 2019, 10:54 AM   #248
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I just think it's in our best interest if the Dems pick a goddamn horse already.

So I hope either Biden or Warren are done soon.
Biden likely has the better odds.
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Old 30th September 2019, 11:10 AM   #249
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Originally Posted by rockysmith76 View Post
Biden likely has the better odds.
If it weren't for Trump pulling out the Ukraine issue prior to the primaries I might have agreed with that assessment. But Trump brought it to light way to early and now I'm not sure.

Either voters dig into the Ukraine issue and realize that Trump was wrong about his facts and that Biden and his son were not doing anything illegal or they would just rather not have another shady person trying to game the system to personal benefit in office. Really could go either way.
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Old 30th September 2019, 12:17 PM   #250
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This is why everyone should have their character sheets fully updated at all times and should remember to distribute them to newcomers.
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Old 30th September 2019, 12:27 PM   #251
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
This is why everyone should have their character sheets fully updated at all times and should remember to distribute them to newcomers.
"Aha! You're equipping a longsword! Clearly you're a fighter!"

"... Or you could review the rules and maybe pay attention to the actual gaming sessions."

"Nope! Fighter! Only possible way it could be!"
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Old 30th September 2019, 12:30 PM   #252
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I put five points into the skill "Vampiric Beekeeping". No idea whether that is the keeping of vampire bees or the use of vampire methods to keep regular bees, but it sounded interesting and potentially a weapon against the capitalist roaders who prop up the decadent patriarchy.
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Old 30th September 2019, 12:31 PM   #253
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Jobs are created by demand. Period.
Billionaires demand tax breaks and hire lobbyists to get them, so yeah :9.
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Old 2nd October 2019, 10:20 PM   #254
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Sure, there's no reason to doubt that conclusion. The son of the VP is a good get, a great prestige piece to trot out whenever they want to look important. Like you say, it's still gross as hell, even if it's not illegal.

It's not even just the Ukraine thing. Hunter Biden's first job was at a big bank that contributed heavily to Biden's campaigns. Biden was the senator for the state of Delaware for many years, which is best known for being a haven for big companies to incorporate to avoid taxes and other pesky regulations. Naturally, these banks and insurance companies love him, and he loves them back.

There's nothing nasty like quid quo pro going on. It's more akin to regulatory capture. These politicians will never be able to stand up against big business because they will never want to do so. They are big business, they are thoroughly enmeshed together. Their kids work at big business, they socialize with big business elites, they have long histories of supporting each other, and so on. The border between government and capital is absolutely porous.

These people are incapable of taking an adversarial stance against these interests.

TLDR: Neoliberalism is cancer.
Did you actually bother doing any investigation at all? Do you know what a board member on a major Oil and Gas Company should be making? Do you know what experience that Hunter had which Burisma wanted to use?

here's a good place to start
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Old 3rd October 2019, 04:19 AM   #255
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Originally Posted by PhantomWolf View Post
Did you actually bother doing any investigation at all? Do you know what a board member on a major Oil and Gas Company should be making? Do you know what experience that Hunter had which Burisma wanted to use?

here's a good place to start
I'm sure it's just a coincidence that nearly every job he has had some proximity to his influential senator daddy. I'm sure having the last name Biden wasn't at all considered when he started making his career in foreign relations.

There's nothing particularly unusual about this. The lackluster children of the powerful have been cashing in on prestige forever. I'm glad this cocaine addled Navy drop-out was able to pull himself up by his bootstraps.
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Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey View Post
I'm sure it's just a coincidence that nearly every job he has had some proximity to his influential senator daddy. I'm sure having the last name Biden wasn't at all considered when he started making his career in foreign relations.

There's nothing particularly unusual about this. The lackluster children of the powerful have been cashing in on prestige forever. I'm glad this cocaine addled Navy drop-out was able to pull himself up by his bootstraps.
do you really want to open this can of worms?
You will have a hard time finding an Intern on the Hill who has got there on merits alone.
Most board members of big Defense Contractors, Hedge Funds, Banks etc. aren't primarily there because of their business acumen.
The right name in the list of employees can significantly increase Stock Value, so a company might want to hire because of name recognition alone, with no foul play whatsoever.

Instead of going after a tiny fish (Hunter), better support Warren to bring transparency to this practice.

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Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey View Post
I'm sure it's just a coincidence that nearly every job he has had some proximity to his influential senator daddy. I'm sure having the last name Biden wasn't at all considered when he started making his career in foreign relations.

There's nothing particularly unusual about this. The lackluster children of the powerful have been cashing in on prestige forever. I'm glad this cocaine addled Navy drop-out was able to pull himself up by his bootstraps.
It would be borderline impossible for Hunter Biden to land a job -- any job -- without his name factoring into the employer's decision.
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Old 3rd October 2019, 06:46 AM   #258
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It would be borderline impossible for Hunter Biden to land a job -- any job -- without his name factoring into the employer's decision.
Well, yes, "Hunter" is a stupid name. It baffles me that with the incredibly rich panoply of magnificent naming precedents so many people end up naming their kids so badly.
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It would be borderline impossible for Hunter Biden to land a job -- any job -- without his name factoring into the employer's decision.
His first job out of law school was at MBNA, a major contributer to his father's political career. Biden was often jokingly described of as the "Senator from MBNA" because of his fierce protection of the credit card companies that operate out of Delaware.

Within 2 years he was an executive vice president. That is a meteoric rise. Must be a real business whiz kid. I'm not saying there was any quid quo pro, in fact, there almost certainly wasn't. It's just that big business takes care of their own, and the Biden family has definitely earned some gratitude.

I think it's no coincidence all these fail-children of the powerful gravitate towards jobs that involve influence peddling, networking with elites, and wealth management.


Again, I don't really see Biden's family as a particularly egregious example of nepotism within this country. In fact, Joe seemed to have acted with integrity with regards to Ukraine, even pushing to clean up corruption in the country at the expense of his son's business relations.

I'm just saying, he is one small example of the incestuous relationship that exists between DC and big business. Expecting any kind of aggressive oversight of big business to come out of this system is a fool's hope.

Warren has a much better track record on regulatory oversight and, even better, a much better record of not being the tireless champion big capital.

Bernie's "every billionaire is a policy failure" stance is even better.
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Well, yes, "Hunter" is a stupid name. It baffles me that with the incredibly rich panoply of magnificent naming precedents so many people end up naming their kids so badly.
I think the elites do it on purpose, as a kind of shibboleth, and a display of privilege.
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I think the elites do it on purpose, as a kind of shibboleth, and a display of privilege.
Usually shibboleths work by having counterintuitive pronunciation. Is it "HunTAIR"? Or maybe "Unter"? Pretty fancy naming for a guy called Joe!
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I don't take issue with anything you write here, clumsy segue to Biden v Warren notwithstanding. Even there, I also prefer Warren over Biden for POTUS. (I'm not clear about my candidate preference though, in terms of winnability.)
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He's somehow seemingly mixed up HRC with Debbie Wasserman Schultz. That's where I'm assuming he's coming up with the "Hillary screwed Bernie" line, anyhow.
Dont forget that Warren is an anti-vaxxer.
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Dont forget that Warren is an anti-vaxxer.
If we're going by InfoWars tales, as you've said, Warren's not even human. And?
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If we're going by InfoWars tales, as you've said, Warren's not even human. And?
No, Hillary was the demon. Mitch O'Connell is a cannibal, maybe a reptillian.
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Mod Warning Can you all try a little harder to keep discussion of other candidates in their own (or a catch-all) thread; this one appears to be about Mr Biden. As far as possible, please keep it that way. Thank you.
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
Usually shibboleths work by having counterintuitive pronunciation. Is it "HunTAIR"? Or maybe "Unter"? Pretty fancy naming for a guy called Joe!
It’s pronounced “Maudlin”.
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I just think it's in our best interest if the Dems pick a goddamn horse already.

So I hope either Biden or Warren are done soon.
A Bernie fan, I see.

Welcome to the revolution, comrade.
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Well, yes, "Hunter" is a stupid name. It baffles me that with the incredibly rich panoply of magnificent naming precedents so many people end up naming their kids so badly.
Says a. person named tragic
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