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Old 18th July 2019, 11:26 AM   #41
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
Trump certainly has achieved the widest possible range of different categories of "off" statements of any person in the public eye in recent history.

It's not just the stuff that comes out of Trump's mouth. It's the stuff that comes out of Trump's mouth that is so radically different from the other stuff that comes out of Trump's mouth.

He's not like going to 4Chan and interacting with a troll, he's like going to 4Chan and just reading posts at random.
He's a less charming Eric Cartman.
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Old 18th July 2019, 11:28 AM   #42
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
He's a less charming Eric Cartman.
At this point Trump is his own metaphor.

He's a bizarro version of Jaime Lannister.

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Old 18th July 2019, 12:35 PM   #43
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Skeptics should check their facts first, and question assumptions, destroy myths. That nobody on this thread bothered to find that many of these supposed Trump statements never existed or were cut out of context is very interesting in the analysis of how political bias affects us.
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Old 18th July 2019, 12:37 PM   #44
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Originally Posted by mopc View Post
Skeptics should check their facts first, and question assumptions, destroy myths. That nobody on this thread bothered to find that many of these supposed Trump statements never existed or were cut out of context is very interesting in the analysis of how political bias affects us.
Oh really. Well please enlighten us. Which of these statements is wrong or have us "skeptics" (scare cord) taken in the wrong context?
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Oh, this will be good...
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Old 18th July 2019, 01:35 PM   #46
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Originally Posted by The Atheist View Post
I have, in order of disgustingness:

Mocking disabled reporter
Abusing Gold Star family
Grab them by the pussy
Go back to your own country
----hole countries
Why aren't Central Park 5 still in jail?
Very fine people on both sides
Shoving a Euro leader out of the way to get in front of the shot
Former Miss Universe fat and a porn star
Humping US flag
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Skeptics should check their facts first, and question assumptions, destroy myths. That nobody on this thread bothered to find that many of these supposed Trump statements never existed or were cut out of context is very interesting in the analysis of how political bias affects us.
From the OP list above, I've only heard one-quasi legit argument that the first one could have been taken out of context. Of course, to do so just implies that he mocks many people by impersonating them as being disabled.

Which ones do not exist or are missing context?
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Old 18th July 2019, 01:36 PM   #47
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Originally Posted by mopc View Post
Skeptics should check their facts first, and question assumptions, destroy myths. That nobody on this thread bothered to find that many of these supposed Trump statements never existed or were cut out of context is very interesting in the analysis of how political bias affects us.
Are you 'pranking' us? "Never existed"? How can mocking a disabled reporter be "taking out of context"? What context would have made it appropriate?

Last question. Are you blind?
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Old 18th July 2019, 01:58 PM   #48
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Originally Posted by mopc View Post
Skeptics should check their facts first, and question assumptions, destroy myths. That nobody on this thread bothered to find that many of these supposed Trump statements never existed or were cut out of context is very interesting in the analysis of how political bias affects us.
Originally Posted by wasapi View Post
Are you 'pranking' us? "Never existed"? How can mocking a disabled reporter be "taking out of context"? What context would have made it appropriate?

Last question. Are you blind?
It's not pranking, it's gaslighting. This is the kind of garbage spread by the right wing to give their fellow travelers a mental out.

Q: How could he have possibly said these things?
A: Obviously, he didn't. It's a liberal conspiracy.
Q: Thank you!
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Old 18th July 2019, 02:29 PM   #49
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Glad that made the list. That was more funny than disgusting.
I didn't find it at all funny - it was the classic act of a narcissist bully.

Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
I don't know that they're necessarily the worst of his remarks, but the odd comments about his own daughter's attractiveness have got to count in the list of his creepiest remarks.
Maybe we need three lists - the most disgusting, the funny ones, and the creepy ones. There's no shortage of candidates for any.

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Skeptics should check their facts first, and question assumptions, destroy myths. That nobody on this thread bothered to find that many of these supposed Trump statements never existed or were cut out of context is very interesting in the analysis of how political bias affects us.
Haha! Classic.

Let me know how charging the gates at Area 51 goes.
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Old 18th July 2019, 05:33 PM   #50
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Originally Posted by mopc View Post
Skeptics should check their facts first, and question assumptions, destroy myths. That nobody on this thread bothered to find that many of these supposed Trump statements never existed or were cut out of context is very interesting in the analysis of how political bias affects us.
You're in the wrong place, my friend.
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The look on his face during the "lock her up" chant is about the most disgusting thing I've ever seen.
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#1 Beating Hillary
True. We could have had a real American as president instead of the dirty **** and Russian whore we're stuck with now.
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Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
The look on his face during the "lock her up" chant is about the most disgusting thing I've ever seen.
If they had panned down, you would have seen the color of his pants darkening.
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Originally Posted by Babbylonian View Post
If they had panned down, you would have seen the color of his pants darkening.
Or just tenting.
I mean... it was only 12 seconds.
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Old 18th July 2019, 09:02 PM   #55
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Originally Posted by mopc View Post
Skeptics should check their facts first, and question assumptions, destroy myths. That nobody on this thread bothered to find that many of these supposed Trump statements never existed or were cut out of context is very interesting in the analysis of how political bias affects us.
Great. I look forward to learning which of these Trump statements never existed. I am willing to change my mind if I am shown evidence.

Are you willing to change your mind if presented with valid reliable evidence?


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I may be willing to concede a point. ****-hole countries was not caught on tape. I’ve decided that the claim is more credible than not. Senators Cotton and Perdue denied that the president said ****-hole. Then the next day they story become that he said ****-house and not ****-hole.

When in a he-said/she-said situation, the side that changes its story a day or two later loses a lot of credibility points.

But, and here is the more important point, even if we drop that one completely, we are still looking at how to trim 20-30 incidents down to the top ten. For instance the code-talkers speech. He is standing in front of men who not only served in a combat zone, but who also knew that if they were captured, they would be tortured. And President Trump decided that would be a perfect time to mockingly refer to a political adversary.
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When The father of a fallen US serviceman spoke at the Democratic Convention, he asserted that Donald Trump has “sacrificed nothing and no one" for his country. President Trump responded later to Khan by saying "I've made a lot of sacrifices, i work very, very hard. I've created thousands and thousands of jobs, tens of thousands of jobs, built great structures. I've had tremendous success. I think I've done a lot."

This man thinks hiring people is as much a sacrifice for one’s country as losing a son.
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When The father of a fallen US serviceman spoke at the Democratic Convention, he asserted that Donald Trump has “sacrificed nothing and no one" for his country. President Trump responded later to Khan by saying "I've made a lot of sacrifices, i work very, very hard. I've created thousands and thousands of jobs, tens of thousands of jobs, built great structures. I've had tremendous success. I think I've done a lot."

This man thinks hiring people is as much a sacrifice for one’s country as losing a son.
But Khan's son didn't suffer the agony of bone spurs.
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President Trump responded later to Khan by saying "I've made a lot of sacrifices, i work very, very hard. I've created thousands and thousands of jobs, tens of thousands of jobs, built great structures. I've had tremendous success. I think I've done a lot."
Someone should do an analysis of whether he's hired more people than he's hurt through his bankruptcies, fake university, etc.
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But Khan's son didn't suffer the agony of bone spurs.

Not to mention all of the STD risks that Trump faced in his own personal Vietnam.
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"Russia, if you're listening, find those 33000 emails!"

(Helsinki, when given a chance to address Putin face-to-face about election meddling)
"There's no reason to believe it would be Russia."

later changed (due to great pressure from aides, I'm sure) to
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"I meant to say 'There's no reason to believe it wouldn't be Russia.'"
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Originally Posted by mopc View Post
Skeptics should check their facts first, and question assumptions, destroy myths. That nobody on this thread bothered to find that many of these supposed Trump statements never existed or were cut out of context is very interesting in the analysis of how political bias affects us.
Oh, don't stop there. Pick examples and show us wrong. That's what a "skeptic" would do...
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(Helsinki, when given a chance to address Putin face-to-face about election meddling)
"There's no reason to believe it would be Russia."
Just a point: that's a paraphase despite the quotation marks, but it's essentially what he said.
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Someone should do an analysis of whether he's hired more people than he's hurt through his bankruptcies, fake university, etc.
Or the financial ruin of purchasers in scam/poorly managed Trump branded/licensed property developments which failed (or never opened).
Any numbers on how many were or still are in operation?
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I can only imagine the novel frisson this thread would have engendered, had it been started in early 2016.

Today, it just feels like a heroin junkie injecting between their toes because all the better spots are still raw, but they still need another fix.
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He's a less charming Eric Cartman.



Except I don't know about the "charming" part. Less charming suggest he is sometimes charming.
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Has anyone mentioned "She's not my type"?
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I can only imagine ....
...what's inside your head. Thanks for sharing.

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Has anyone mentioned "She's not my type"?
Excellent point - it's as bad as Duterte's line about the soldiers who should have let him a woman first, because she was pretty.

I think it's probably the single worst line he's uttered, because as a defence against rape, it backfires spectacularly - for anyone with a brain.

It's worse than all the abuse, because it's an admission he would rape, in the right circumstances, as long as she's pretty enough.

As pretty as Ivanka*, say.




*In his mind - I don't fancy her at all.
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I can only imagine the novel frisson this thread would have engendered, had it been started in early 2016.

Today, it just feels like a heroin junkie injecting between their toes because all the better spots are still raw, but they still need another fix.
I can only imagine the cognitive dissonance required to simultaneously pretend to be unaware of Trump's many many disgusting and corrupt actions and statements while also complaining that people keep talking about Trump's many many disgusting and corrupt actions and statements.
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Hard to say. He's done and said so much that I keep forgetting all the scandals.

Grab them by the ***** obviously makes the list, of course.
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There are so many to choose from, but I think a top ten list would be helpful. (Surely, one of the PACs will put these together as attack ads)

I have, in order of disgustingness:

Mocking disabled reporter
Abusing Gold Star family
Grab them by the pussy
Go back to your own country
----hole countries
Why aren't Central Park 5 still in jail?
Very fine people on both sides
Shoving a Euro leader out of the way to get in front of the shot
Former Miss Universe fat and a porn star
Humping US flag

Post your list and we'll see if we can get a valid top ten.

Maybe I've missed something, but if you look at what the man actually said, I see it as a cry for help. He is reaching out to these four young women, and for once it's not to grab them by the pussy. He says that they:

Quote:
came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all).
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Why don’t they [hilite]go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how.... ...it is done. These places need your help badly,
The Real Donald Trump

At least three of them actually do come from a country whose government is a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world!
And Ilhan came from Mogadishu!
I mean, you've got to give him credit for finally being on the track of something.

And then he asks them to come back and show him how to get rid of corruption.
This is a guy who until now has been unable to admit to any wrongdoing, and now he makes it explicit that he is the POTUS of a totally broken and crime-infested place that he is unable to fix without their help!
That's got to count for something, doesn't it???
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Skeptics should check their facts first, and question assumptions, destroy myths. That nobody on this thread bothered to find that many of these supposed Trump statements never existed or were cut out of context is very interesting in the analysis of how political bias affects us.
**** him. That's his problem. There's no tactic (as long as it's legal) that's too low or underhanded to use on Trump. If the blow lands, it's fine. No consideration decency or fairness need be made.
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There are so many to choose from, but I think a top ten list would be helpful. (Surely, one of the PACs will put these together as attack ads)

I have, in order of disgustingness:

Mocking disabled reporter
Abusing Gold Star family
Grab them by the pussy
Go back to your own country
----hole countries
Why aren't Central Park 5 still in jail?
Very fine people on both sides
Shoving a Euro leader out of the way to get in front of the shot
Former Miss Universe fat and a porn star
Humping US flag

Post your list and we'll see if we can get a valid top ten.
These are all pretty bad and disgusting things said or done by Trump on a personal level, but they are really just diversionary.

Why is "putting children in cages and detaining them in inhumane conditions" not there? Or "attempting to take people's healthcare away" or "attempting to destroy the public education system" or "obstructing an investigation into election tampering by a foreign power" or "shutting down the government in order to extort money to build his stupid wall"?

Trump is raping America and the World but what is really bad is him dry humping a flag.

(That last sentence was sarcasm, in case it wasn't obvious.)
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Originally Posted by jeremyp View Post
These are all pretty bad and disgusting things said or done by Trump on a personal level, but they are really just diversionary.

Why is "putting children in cages and detaining them in inhumane conditions" not there? Or "attempting to take people's healthcare away" or "attempting to destroy the public education system" or "obstructing an investigation into election tampering by a foreign power" or "shutting down the government in order to extort money to build his stupid wall"?

Trump is raping America and the World but what is really bad is him dry humping a flag.

(That last sentence was sarcasm, in case it wasn't obvious.)
All excellent points though if that flag had a rape whistle, it would have blown it.
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I disliked Obama because he didn't do or say much of anything.
I refer to him as the lame duck president.

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I mean, you've got to give him credit for finally being on the track of something.
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Why is "putting children in cages and detaining them in inhumane conditions" not there?
I don't think you can blame Trump for all of that. He isn't the one deciding how the budget gets spent, and I think he's like a Mafia Don on it - he is ultimately responsible for creating the crisis, but he's at arm's length from the actual crime.

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Or "attempting to take people's healthcare away" or "attempting to destroy the public education system" or "obstructing an investigation into election tampering by a foreign power" or "shutting down the government in order to extort money to build his stupid wall"?
Again, aside from the last, he can't be given all the blame. In the case of the shutdown, while it was unpleasant for the Fed workers, it wasn't then end of the world.
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Originally Posted by jeremyp View Post
These are all pretty bad and disgusting things said or done by Trump on a personal level, but they are really just diversionary.

Why is "putting children in cages and detaining them in inhumane conditions" not there? Or "attempting to take people's healthcare away" or "attempting to destroy the public education system" or "obstructing an investigation into election tampering by a foreign power" or "shutting down the government in order to extort money to build his stupid wall"?

Trump is raping America and the World but what is really bad is him dry humping a flag.

(That last sentence was sarcasm, in case it wasn't obvious.)
Good points all. I would put "nearly starting a nuclear war with North Korea by starting a pissing contest with Kim Jong-Un" on the list as well.

Or just "trying to tear down Obama's accomplishments, just because he's Obama".
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Let's not forget that he came into office with an Iran that was a state sponsor of terrorism and now has an Iran that is a state sponsor of terrorism closer to a nuclear weapon. Way to go ace.
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REPORTER: Does it concern you that many people saw that tweet as racist and that white nationalist groups are finding common cause with you on that point?

TRUMP: It doesn't concern me because many people agree with me.

https://www.vox.com/2019/7/19/207009...omar-apollo-11
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I’m disgusted by his ignorance of how tariffs work. A of of people are hurt by that.

I am especially disgusted by pathological inability to grasp that his actions sometimes are not successful and therefore he needs to adopt a new strategy. Advisors have tried explaining things to him, but he is too closed minded to even consider that he is missing an important factor in his reasoning, his conclusions, and his plans.
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