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Old 5th October 2019, 08:44 AM   #1
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What has Trump done to “Make America Great Again”

From a Canadian perspective :

This is the guy who stood up in front of a crowd of military personnel on Christmas week and promised them a (non-existent) 10% payraise.

This is the guy who tripled taxes on benefits that were paid out to the survivors of military personnel killed in action.

This is the guy who attempted to hijack the money that the Department If Defence was going to use to repair hurricane damage to base housing, for his fecking wall.

This is the guy who mocks POWs, veterans and their families. Such as Captain Khan’s mother and family he derided

This is the guy who slagged Jim Mattis and tried to change his resignation into a dismissal.

This is the guy who is so jealous of a dead man that his staff asked the Navy to hide the USS McCain during Trump’s fleet visit.

This is the guy who turned the 4th of July into a Soviet-style military parade that not only ate up another chunk of operating funds but guaranteed that a few thousand people had to spend the holiday on duty.

This is the guy who claimed his not getting an STD was somehow equivalent to serving in Vietnam.

This is the guy who sent troops to America’s southern border to protect the USA from thousands of hungry, desperate people who wanted to become Americans.

This is the guy who took the word of that former KGB operative, Russian President Vladimir Putin, over the word of all of our intelligence agencies and our military.

Shall I go on?


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Old 5th October 2019, 08:54 AM   #2
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Originally Posted by ShortHaxYT View Post
From a Canadian perspective :

This is the guy who stood up in front of a crowd of military personnel on Christmas week and promised them a (non-existent) 10% payraise.

This is the guy who tripled taxes on benefits that were paid out to the survivors of military personnel killed in action.

This is the guy who attempted to hijack the money that the Department If Defence was going to use to repair hurricane damage to base housing, for his fecking wall.

This is the guy who mocks POWs, veterans and their families. Such as Captain Khan’s mother and family he derided

This is the guy who slagged Jim Mattis and tried to change his resignation into a dismissal.

This is the guy who is so jealous of a dead man that his staff asked the Navy to hide the USS McCain during Trump’s fleet visit.

This is the guy who turned the 4th of July into a Soviet-style military parade that not only ate up another chunk of operating funds but guaranteed that a few thousand people had to spend the holiday on duty.

This is the guy who claimed his not getting an STD was somehow equivalent to serving in Vietnam.

This is the guy who sent troops to our southern border to protect the USA from thousands of hungry, desperate people who wanted to become Americans.

This is the guy who took the word of that former KGB operative, Russian President Vladimir Putin, over the word of all of our intelligence agencies and our military.

Shall I go on?


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Yeah most Canadians I know don't like to be thought of as the 51st state.

You missed "our southern border"
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Old 5th October 2019, 10:12 AM   #5
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40 percent of the country seems to think it's pretty great.
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Old 5th October 2019, 10:27 AM   #6
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Yeah, a smiley face isn't your best reply here. You are either:

A) posting the unattributed work of others as your own
B) forgetting what country you live in
C) your autocorrect substitutes 'our' for 'their'
D) inserting a smiley face because you acknowledge you are busted
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Old 5th October 2019, 10:39 AM   #7
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Hey, nothing wrong with threads where Troompers can pile in with facts, figures, reasoned conclusions, and, you know, logic.

They'll be here any minute.
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Old 5th October 2019, 11:04 AM   #8
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Hey, nothing wrong with threads where Troompers can pile in with facts, figures, reasoned conclusions, and, you know, logic.

They'll be here any minute.
Why bother? We've had this conversation a million times already. Your contribution hasn't changed at all. I'm pretty sure mine hasn't. We don't need to re-hash it every time someone new discovers it for the first time. Let them read the existing threads, contribute something new if they can.
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Old 5th October 2019, 11:19 AM   #9
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
Why bother? We've had this conversation a million times already. Your contribution hasn't changed at all. I'm pretty sure mine hasn't. We don't need to re-hash it every time someone new discovers it for the first time. Let them read the existing threads, contribute something new if they can.
I have no idea what the hell your talking about.

Refresh our memories. How exactly has Trump made America Great? I'm dying to know because on that subject I'm clueless. As you were saying?

Maybe making the deficit "huuuge" is great?
Maybe putting children in cages? Is that great?
How about in how Trump is uniting us?
Showing us that principles are important?
That honesty and truthfulness is something we should all strive for?

Or is it just Republican "good" Democrat "bad"?
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Old 5th October 2019, 12:45 PM   #10
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This is easy: Trump has avoided wearing tan suits.
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Old 6th October 2019, 11:13 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by TellyKNeasuss View Post
This is easy: Trump has avoided wearing tan suits.
and bicycle helmets....
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Nothing. He made America look stupid and gave a tax cut to the rich and corporations. The corporations hired nobody. People are getting 2 jobs at minimum wage in the service sevtor.
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He pissed of the Libs. That's what "Make American Great Again" was always a code word for, something that it seems the Libs are the only ones having trouble understanding.
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What has Trump done to “Make America Great Again”
Falling from greatness would seem to be a pre-requisite for becoming great again, and rump is doing his best on this front.
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Old 7th October 2019, 11:10 AM   #15
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
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He pissed of the Libs. That's what "Make American Great Again" was always a code word for, something that it seems the Libs are the only ones having trouble understanding.
I thought it was code for getting rid of brown people and putting black people in their place again?
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Old 7th October 2019, 11:30 AM   #16
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The biggest "win" I've seen I've consistently seen cited by the conservatives I encounter:

1). Keeping Hillary out of the White House
2). Appointing judges.

I would note that the judges are your run of the mill conservative fodder, just names from the Federalist roster. A Jeb! presidency would probably have selected the same folks.

Trump's biggest "wins" are things that any generic republican POTUS would do.
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Old 7th October 2019, 11:38 AM   #17
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40 percent of the country seems to think it's pretty great.
40 percent of the country will support anybody as POTUS who has a "R" after his name.
About the same amount will support anybody as POTUS who has a "D" after his name.
It's the remainng undecideds and swing voters who decide elections.
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I thought it was code for getting rid of brown people and putting black people in their place again?
It was - and really it's the only "promise" that he has worked to fulfill.
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40 percent of the country will support anybody as POTUS who has a "R" after his name.
About the same amount will support anybody as POTUS who has a "D" after his name.
It's the remainng undecideds and swing voters who decide elections.
Of course the 40% who vote republican are conveniently collected in states that give them disproportionate say in the presidency.
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I thought it was code for getting rid of brown people and putting black people in their place again?
That's how I took it, but a little further. 'Let's go back to when all them non-hetero-WASPs knew their place'. Other religions, orientations, religions, etc lumped in there
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That's how I took it, but a little further. 'Let's go back to when all them non-hetero-MALE-WASPs knew their place'. Other religions, orientations, religions, etc lumped in there
Fixed it for you
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Fixed it for you
Yup, forgot that. Gotta make a note somewhere that the uppity womenfolk are expecting formal recognition nowadays
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I don’t put much stock in campaign slogans and promises. It’s weird to me that so many people take Trump’s slogan as a promise rather than words strung together to help you remember the candidate.
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How dare you doubt Dear Leader's Great And Unmatched Wisdom???

Still have problems that he actually said that.
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"What has Trump done to “Make America Great Again"

Absolutely nuthin.

I mean, even a stopped clock should be right twice a day but Trump's clock is a powered off digital display. He has not, even incidentally, done anything beneficial to anybody.
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
How dare you doubt Dear Leader's Great And Unmatched Wisdom???

Still have problems that he actually said that.
I think I should go off to Ken White's Twitter and see if he's changed his handle to "GreatandUnmatchedWisdomHat" yet.

ETA: Ok, just "unmatchedwisdomhat". Close enough.
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It's not about past tense, it's about future tense: What will Trump do to "Make America Great Again".

The answer is obvious: Go away. Go FAR away. Moscow looks nice... Let America try to heal.
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I think I should go off to Ken White's Twitter and see if he's changed his handle to "GreatandUnmatchedWisdomHat" yet.

ETA: Ok, just "unmatchedwisdomhat". Close enough.
And he's seething with resentment about it.
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President Trump has:
  • Appointed two conservative judges to SCOTUS ensuring that it continues to lean right for a generation
  • Implemented an economic miracle which has yielded the strongest US economy in history
  • Rolled back all kinds of useless regulation which was stifling business
  • Made the US respected AND FEARED globally
  • Won the war against ISIS
  • Won the trade wars against China and the EU
  • Made good progress on building his border wall and has made the US safe from invasion from the South
  • Reversed the attacks on Christians and slowed down anti-Christian discrimination
  • Protected God and the second amendment
  • Ensured that blacks and Hispanics have shared in MAGA
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He may be the person who finally mobilizes the Hispanic vote in this country, a typically low turn-out population. Democrats have been trying to do that for years.
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He may be the person who finally mobilizes the Hispanic vote in this country, a typically low turn-out population. Democrats have been trying to do that for years.


The Dems could have done it years ago; just get behind one of the many qualified Hispanic Democrats.
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President Trump has:
  • Appointed two conservative judges to SCOTUS ensuring that it continues to lean right for a generation
  • Implemented an economic miracle which has yielded the strongest US economy in history
  • Rolled back all kinds of useless regulation which was stifling business
  • Made the US respected AND FEARED globally
  • Won the war against ISIS
  • Won the trade wars against China and the EU
  • Made good progress on building his border wall and has made the US safe from invasion from the South
  • Reversed the attacks on Christians and slowed down anti-Christian discrimination
  • Protected God and the second amendment
  • Ensured that blacks and Hispanics have shared in MAGA
Don’t forget that he won the War on Christmas. He is very proud of that.
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Don't know about making America great, but his actions in Syria are making America the country nobody is going to trust as a partner.
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President Trump has:
  • Appointed two conservative judges to SCOTUS ensuring that it continues to lean right for a generation
  • Yes he did. But that was largely due to McConnell's machinations rather than anything specifically that Trump did.

    And one of those appointments was Drunky McRapeface.... who's nomination and confirmation may have played a part in the 'blue wave' that saw the Republicans lose a whole bunch of house seats.
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  • Implemented an economic miracle which has yielded the strongest US economy in history
Correct, except where you are completely wrong.

True, unemployment is low. But its been at that level before. And GDP is increasing, but its risen much faster before.

And much of that economic 'miracle' was caused by a tax cut, which has seen the deficit sharply increase.
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  • You mean the regulations that kept coal companies from polluting waterways with coal ash? Or the regulations that kept banks from gouging customers?

    Yeah, good thing we got rid of those.
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  • Made the US respected AND FEARED globally
  • Polling shows that respect for the U.S. has declined in almost all countries since Trump was elected.

    https://time.com/5419603/nikki-haley...lobal-respect/

    And the U.S. may be feared, but not in a "we must respect them" way, but more in a "they are run by incompetent idiots who may screw up and cause problems".
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  • Won the war against ISIS
  • Much of the work there was done by Obama and U.S. allies (such as the Kurds, whom Trump has just thrown under the bus.)

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  • Won the trade wars against China and the EU
  • U.S. trade deficit with China has increased, from $46 billion when Obama left office to $54 billion now.
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  • Made good progress on building his border wall and has made the US safe from invasion from the South
  • The wall that Mexico that was supposed to pay for, and that he had to raid military spending plans to fund? Not exactly a good thing in my books.

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  • Reversed the attacks on Christians and slowed down anti-Christian discrimination
  • Protected God and the second amendment
  • Except of course that was never a problem.
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  • Ensured that blacks and Hispanics have shared in MAGA
  • While the rates of black and hispanic unemployment has decreased, they are still higher than the unemployment rates of white people.

    And, many of Trump's policies (tariffs on foreign goods, attempts to gut health care) will often cause harm to minority communities.

    Oh, and don't forget: he's pushing for voter ID laws, which are basically ways of disenfranchising minority voters.
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    I have to believe The Don was being sarcastic. How have you won a trade war that is still going on?
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    Old 9th October 2019, 07:20 AM   #36
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    Don’t forget that he won the War on Christmas. He is very proud of that.
    So he does didn't dodge the draft on that one? Allergy to brussel sprouts or has to walk with a candy cane because his bone spurs are back?
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    Originally Posted by slyjoe View Post
    I have to believe The Don was being sarcastic.
    I was, but I was echoing things that supporters of President Trump have said.


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    How have you won a trade war that is still going on?
    Because he won, and now he's winning more - in fact he's winning so much that Americans will be sick of winning (certainly the farmers at the sharp end of the trade war are showing signs of being sick of winning - but are still strongly supportive of President Trump).
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    Hillary is a demon, Alex Jones said so.
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    He just made America look like a nation no one can trust with what is going on in Syria.
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    He just made America look like a nation no one can trust with what is going on in Syria.
    And if Hillary isn't joking about running, the selfish hag will give us 4 more years of him.
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