Passing Peak Trump? - Page 11

Trebuchet · 17th November 2018, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by WilliamSeger

As of November 6, we have passed peak Trumpism, at least: 54 of the 75 GOP candidates that Trump endorsed lost, and losing the House means the MAGA legislative agenda is dead. Anyone still imagining that Trump can win in 2020 and the GOP can hold the Senate must also be imagining some unexpected change in the current vector. You can hope for that, but two things should be clear by now: Trump just can't stop Trumping, and his base is as large as it will ever be.

Some Republicans may see the light. Far more will increase their efforts to destroy democratic processes in the USA through gerrymandering, voter suppression, and the like.

applecorped · 9th December 2018, 09:26 AM

Maybe now?

phiwum · 9th December 2018, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by applecorped

Maybe now?

Must make you feel mighty good that 1 to 2 years ago, some folk on the internet were wrong. It's nice that you regularly remind us.

As some have said, "Time well spent."

The Great Zaganza · 11th December 2018, 07:25 AM

With Trump's pick for Chief of staff turning him down, at least in the eyes of some political operatives he has passed his peak.

applecorped · 1st January 2019, 07:49 AM

2019 and Trump is still president, who'da thunk it.

Maybe Trump will pass Peak this year.

Matthew Best · 1st January 2019, 05:14 PM

I don't know about anybody else, but I certainly reached Peak Trump some time ago.

Please, America, make it stop.

applecorped · 17th May 2019, 05:01 PM

Has it passed yet?

Upchurch · 17th May 2019, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by applecorped

Has it passed yet?

We may well be past the point of no return.

Trebuchet · 17th May 2019, 05:24 PM

I passed something quite akin to Trump this morning.

Stacyhs · 17th May 2019, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by Trebuchet

I passed something quite akin to Trump this morning.

I have toilet tissue with Trump's face on it which comes in quite handy for certain situations such as you describe.

applecorped · 29th May 2019, 09:36 AM

Trump innocent.

Peak still not passed.

lol

Belz... · 29th May 2019, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by applecorped

Trump innocent.

I see even simple things have you confused.

Safe-Keeper · 29th May 2019, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by Belz...

I see even simple things have you confused.

:and other replies to you-know-who (not the Harry Potter kind):

You know, if you see someone just spamming the forum, you should probably just ignore them or report them for breaking Rule 6 and Rule 11. For everything else there's ignore lists.

Remember when you were in school and there was always this one guy who had to shout random, weird things during class discussion to get attention? You didn't all stop your discussion and tell him how he was wrong or attention-craving, you just ignored him in the hope he would eventually grow up

.

Stacyhs · 29th May 2019, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper

:and other replies to you-know-who (not the Harry Potter kind):

You know, if you see someone just spamming the forum, you should probably just ignore them or report them for breaking Rule 6 and Rule 11. For everything else there's ignore lists.

Remember when you were in school and there was always this one guy who had to shout random, weird things during class discussion to get attention? You didn't all stop your discussion and tell him how he was wrong or attention-craving, you just ignored him in the hope he would eventually grow up

.

Hallelujah and amen to that!

Belz... · 29th May 2019, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper

You know, if you see someone just spamming the forum, you should probably just ignore them or report them for breaking Rule 6 and Rule 11. For everything else there's ignore lists.

You really think he's going to get infracted for off-topic trolling after all these years?

WilliamSeger · 5th October 2019, 09:50 AM

Ah, yep.

varwoche · 5th October 2019, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by applecorped

Trump innocent.

Peak still not passed.

lol

OJ innocent.

lol?

(I don't generally speak lol-ese, but when in Rome...)

theprestige · 5th October 2019, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by varwoche

OJ innocent.

lol?

(I don't generally speak lol-ese, but when in Rome...)

Hillary innocent.

lol.

(Alternatively, be the change you want to see in the world.)

varwoche · 5th October 2019, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by theprestige

Hillary innocent.

lol.

(Alternatively, be the change you want to see in the world.)

Except I'm mocking, not doing. Way to miss the point.

Craig4 · 5th October 2019, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by applecorped

Trump innocent.

Peak still not passed.

lol

Who cares if he's innocent? All that matters is that he's no longer president. Over half the voters are now in favor of impeachment. The Russian whore you're so enamored of only won by 88,000 votes in three states. Most of them skewed older so some of them have died since then (which is the best thing they can do for the country, Trump voters aren't valuable). If he's hurt enough to lose the election by impeachment, that's all that matters. The Ends Justify the Means.

Eddie Dane · 7th October 2019, 12:28 AM

Is an impeachment actually likely to get him out of office?
Or is it just an inconvenient media/legal circus that ties down the accused during proceedings?

No presidency has ever been ended by this procedure, right?

Would it not just feed the -already substantial- persecution fantasy of Trump's base and energise them for the elections?

The Great Zaganza · 7th October 2019, 01:18 AM

2020 will be about sapping enthusiasm for Trump: anything concrete Dems can point to will help with that, any good excuse for traditional Republicans to stay at home.
But it will take a thrashing at the ballot box for GOP leadership to gather the courage to denounce Trump openly and permanently.

WilliamSeger · 7th October 2019, 02:48 AM

Originally Posted by Eddie Dane

Is an impeachment actually likely to get him out of office?
Or is it just an inconvenient media/legal circus that ties down the accused during proceedings?

No presidency has ever been ended by this procedure, right?

Would it not just feed the -already substantial- persecution fantasy of Trump's base and energise them for the elections?

Deploraphobia n. : Irrational fear of Trump's 40% base.

No matter how energized they are, they only get to vote once.

a_unique_person · 7th October 2019, 02:55 AM

We have reached peak Trump. I've called it.

thaiboxerken · 7th October 2019, 03:07 AM

Originally Posted by Eddie Dane

Would it not just feed the -already substantial- persecution fantasy of Trump's base and energise them for the elections?

I don't think it matters, they will claim persecution and be energized whether or not Trump is impeached by the House.

applecorped · 7th October 2019, 04:14 AM

Where as Hillary voters voted twice and sometimes three times

Belz... · 7th October 2019, 04:17 AM

Originally Posted by applecorped

Where as Hillary voters voted twice and sometimes three times

Good joke. 6/10.

dudalb · 9th October 2019, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by Belz...

Good joke. 6/10.

And I think he stole that line from Leo De Capio in Scorsese's "Gangs Of New York".

Crossbow · 10th October 2019, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by applecorped

Where as Hillary voters voted twice and sometimes three times

Just another lie.

Segnosaur · 10th October 2019, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by Eddie Dane

Is an impeachment actually likely to get him out of office?

Probably not (at least not directly), since republicans in the Senate are unlikely to vote him out.

Quote:

Or is it just an inconvenient media/legal circus that ties down the accused during proceedings?

Trump has been a very corrupt and destructive individual.

Impeachment proceedings can do 3 things (any of which will be beneficial)
- It might force him out of office. (The chance is tiny, but it still exists)
- By highlighting some of his corrupt behavior, it gives added knowledge to the electorate in the next election, so that even if he's not forced out within the next year, there is a better chance he'll lose in 2020.
- It may help 'tie him down', if Republicans decide that the added attention of impeachment necessitates them actually cracking down on Trump.

Now, there is a chance he may become more unstable over time, but given how bad he was before, I can't really see things getting much worse.

Quote:

No presidency has ever been ended by this procedure, right?

Nixon resigned, but he would not have left office were it not for the impeachment proceedings.

Quote:

Would it not just feed the -already substantial- persecution fantasy of Trump's base and energize them for the elections?

There is a chance that some people who might have liked Trump are encouraged to vote instead of sitting out the 2020 election. But there's also a chance it will energize people who might have sat out thinking "Trump ain't so bad" to make them think "Ok, this guy really does need to be removed".

theprestige · 10th October 2019, 02:30 PM

Do we even have a definition of "peak Trump"?

a_unique_person · 10th October 2019, 02:34 PM

The point at which everything goes downhill for him. Much easier to see in retrospect but harder to see at the time.

The Great Zaganza · 25th October 2019, 01:34 AM

The fact that Trump's excusers are fighting a rearguard action on everything he does is a good indication that the Trump Train is running out of steam: he is under siege and it's a question of when, not if.
Republicans just hope that the When will be after 2020.

The Don · 25th October 2019, 01:55 AM

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza

The fact that Trump's excusers are fighting a rearguard action on everything he does is a good indication that the Trump Train is running out of steam: he is under siege and it's a question of when, not if.
Republicans just hope that the When will be after 2020.

Give it a couple of weeks, the current set of "scandals" will have blow over and most of the electorate will have forgotten that they have ever happened or remembered a different version.

President Trump's approval will be back to exactly where it's been for the last 3 years.

The Great Zaganza · 25th October 2019, 02:13 AM

Originally Posted by The Don

Give it a couple of weeks, the current set of "scandals" will have blow over and most of the electorate will have forgotten that they have ever happened or remembered a different version.

President Trump's approval will be back to exactly where it's been for the last 3 years.

maybe.
But if you look at the right wing/alt-right media, it's clear that there is no longer an enthusiasm for Trump: 2020 can at best be a vote against a Democrat, not one for Trump.
In 2016, Trump managed to mobilize a lot of otherwise passive voters; all that Democrats need in 2020 is for those Republicans to stay home.

Eddie Dane · 25th October 2019, 03:26 AM

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza

maybe.
But if you look at the right wing/alt-right media, it's clear that there is no longer an enthusiasm for Trump: 2020 can at best be a vote against a Democrat, not one for Trump.
In 2016, Trump managed to mobilize a lot of otherwise passive voters; all that Democrats need in 2020 is for those Republicans to stay home.

The Alt-Right has been bamboozled by Trump.

They thought they were getting a wall and a return to 1920's immigration policy.

The only promise he's somewhat kept is that he has not expanded military adventures. (The Alt-Right thinks that all wars are wars for Israel, even Afghanistan).

Trebuchet · 31st October 2019, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by Eddie Dane

The Alt-Right has been bamboozled by Trump.

They thought they were getting a wall and a return to 1920's immigration policy.

The only promise he's somewhat kept is that he has not expanded military adventures. (The Alt-Right thinks that all wars are wars for Israel, even Afghanistan).

And even they have been less bamboozled than the Fundies, who think Trump is nigh upon the second coming of Christ, personally chosen by Gawd to establish his Dominion over the world. I'm a better Christian than Trump, and I'm an atheist.

Eddie Dane · 31st October 2019, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by Trebuchet

And even they have been less bamboozled than the Fundies, who think Trump is nigh upon the second coming of Christ, personally chosen by Gawd to establish his Dominion over the world. I'm a better Christian than Trump, and I'm an atheist.

I know Muslims that are better Christians than Trump.

dudalb · 31st October 2019, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by The Don

Give it a couple of weeks, the current set of "scandals" will have blow over and most of the electorate will have forgotten that they have ever happened or remembered a different version.

President Trump's approval will be back to exactly where it's been for the last 3 years.

Sorry, but that this is going to blow over quickly is just plain wrong.

acbytesla · 31st October 2019, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by The Don

Give it a couple of weeks, the current set of "scandals" will have blow over and most of the electorate will have forgotten that they have ever happened or remembered a different version.

President Trump's approval will be back to exactly where it's been for the last 3 years.

You mean that whopping 35 percent approval rating?

Sorry Don. Not even close. The public House hearing will go on for at least the next 2 months. Then we get the Senate Trial.

17th November 2018, 08:55 AM	#401
Trebuchet Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Port Townsend, Washington Posts: 31,329	Originally Posted by WilliamSeger As of November 6, we have passed peak Trumpism, at least: 54 of the 75 GOP candidates that Trump endorsed lost, and losing the House means the MAGA legislative agenda is dead. Anyone still imagining that Trump can win in 2020 and the GOP can hold the Senate must also be imagining some unexpected change in the current vector. You can hope for that, but two things should be clear by now: Trump just can't stop Trumping, and his base is as large as it will ever be. Some Republicans may see the light. Far more will increase their efforts to destroy democratic processes in the USA through gerrymandering, voter suppression, and the like.
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9th December 2018, 09:26 AM	#402
applecorped Banned Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 20,145	Maybe now?
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11th December 2018, 07:25 AM	#404
The Great Zaganza Maledictorian Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 14,877	With Trump's pick for Chief of staff turning him down, at least in the eyes of some political operatives he has passed his peak.
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1st January 2019, 07:49 AM	#405
applecorped Banned Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 20,145	2019 and Trump is still president, who'da thunk it. Maybe Trump will pass Peak this year.
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17th May 2019, 05:01 PM	#407
applecorped Banned Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 20,145	Has it passed yet?
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9th December 2018, 09:49 AM	#403
phiwum Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 12,734	Originally Posted by applecorped Maybe now? Must make you feel mighty good that 1 to 2 years ago, some folk on the internet were wrong. It's nice that you regularly remind us. As some have said, "Time well spent."

1st January 2019, 05:14 PM	#406
Matthew Best Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Leicester Square, London Posts: 8,450	I don't know about anybody else, but I certainly reached Peak Trump some time ago. Please, America, make it stop.

17th May 2019, 05:11 PM	#408
Upchurch Papa Funkosophy Join Date: May 2002 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 32,468	Originally Posted by applecorped Has it passed yet? We may well be past the point of no return.
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17th May 2019, 05:24 PM	#409
Trebuchet Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Port Townsend, Washington Posts: 31,329	I passed something quite akin to Trump this morning.
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17th May 2019, 05:29 PM	#410
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 18,233	Originally Posted by Trebuchet I passed something quite akin to Trump this morning. I have toilet tissue with Trump's face on it which comes in quite handy for certain situations such as you describe.

29th May 2019, 09:36 AM	#411
applecorped Banned Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 20,145	Trump innocent. Peak still not passed. lol
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29th May 2019, 09:46 AM	#412
Belz... Fiend God Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: In a post-fact world Posts: 92,225	Originally Posted by applecorped Trump innocent. I see even simple things have you confused.
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29th May 2019, 09:57 AM	#413
Safe-Keeper Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Norway Posts: 10,396	Originally Posted by Belz... I see even simple things have you confused. :and other replies to you-know-who (not the Harry Potter kind): You know, if you see someone just spamming the forum, you should probably just ignore them or report them for breaking Rule 6 and Rule 11. For everything else there's ignore lists. Remember when you were in school and there was always this one guy who had to shout random, weird things during class discussion to get attention? You didn't all stop your discussion and tell him how he was wrong or attention-craving, you just ignored him in the hope he would eventually grow up .
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29th May 2019, 11:47 AM	#414
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 18,233	Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper :and other replies to you-know-who (not the Harry Potter kind): You know, if you see someone just spamming the forum, you should probably just ignore them or report them for breaking Rule 6 and Rule 11. For everything else there's ignore lists. Remember when you were in school and there was always this one guy who had to shout random, weird things during class discussion to get attention? You didn't all stop your discussion and tell him how he was wrong or attention-craving, you just ignored him in the hope he would eventually grow up . Hallelujah and amen to that!

29th May 2019, 12:12 PM	#415
Belz... Fiend God Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: In a post-fact world Posts: 92,225	Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper You know, if you see someone just spamming the forum, you should probably just ignore them or report them for breaking Rule 6 and Rule 11. For everything else there's ignore lists. You really think he's going to get infracted for off-topic trolling after all these years?
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5th October 2019, 09:50 AM	#416
WilliamSeger Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5,092	Ah, yep.

5th October 2019, 11:03 AM	#417
varwoche Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Puget Sound Posts: 15,467	Originally Posted by applecorped Trump innocent. Peak still not passed. lol OJ innocent. lol? (I don't generally speak lol-ese, but when in Rome...)
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5th October 2019, 12:03 PM	#418
theprestige Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 50,644	Originally Posted by varwoche OJ innocent. lol? (I don't generally speak lol-ese, but when in Rome...) Hillary innocent. lol. (Alternatively, be the change you want to see in the world.)

5th October 2019, 12:10 PM	#419
varwoche Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Puget Sound Posts: 15,467	Originally Posted by theprestige Hillary innocent. lol. (Alternatively, be the change you want to see in the world.) Except I'm mocking, not doing. Way to miss the point.
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5th October 2019, 05:06 PM	#420
Craig4 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: I live in a swamp Posts: 22,891	Originally Posted by applecorped Trump innocent. Peak still not passed. lol Who cares if he's innocent? All that matters is that he's no longer president. Over half the voters are now in favor of impeachment. The Russian whore you're so enamored of only won by 88,000 votes in three states. Most of them skewed older so some of them have died since then (which is the best thing they can do for the country, Trump voters aren't valuable). If he's hurt enough to lose the election by impeachment, that's all that matters. The Ends Justify the Means.

7th October 2019, 12:28 AM	#421
Eddie Dane Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,681	Is an impeachment actually likely to get him out of office? Or is it just an inconvenient media/legal circus that ties down the accused during proceedings? No presidency has ever been ended by this procedure, right? Would it not just feed the -already substantial- persecution fantasy of Trump's base and energise them for the elections?
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7th October 2019, 01:18 AM	#422
The Great Zaganza Maledictorian Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 14,877	2020 will be about sapping enthusiasm for Trump: anything concrete Dems can point to will help with that, any good excuse for traditional Republicans to stay at home. But it will take a thrashing at the ballot box for GOP leadership to gather the courage to denounce Trump openly and permanently.

7th October 2019, 02:48 AM	#423
WilliamSeger Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5,092	Originally Posted by Eddie Dane Is an impeachment actually likely to get him out of office? Or is it just an inconvenient media/legal circus that ties down the accused during proceedings? No presidency has ever been ended by this procedure, right? Would it not just feed the -already substantial- persecution fantasy of Trump's base and energise them for the elections? Deploraphobia n. : Irrational fear of Trump's 40% base. No matter how energized they are, they only get to vote once.

7th October 2019, 02:55 AM	#424
a_unique_person Director of Hatcheries and Conditioning Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Waiting for the pod bay door to open. Posts: 43,089	We have reached peak Trump. I've called it.
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7th October 2019, 03:07 AM	#425
thaiboxerken Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 31,717	Originally Posted by Eddie Dane Would it not just feed the -already substantial- persecution fantasy of Trump's base and energise them for the elections? I don't think it matters, they will claim persecution and be energized whether or not Trump is impeached by the House.
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7th October 2019, 04:14 AM	#426
applecorped Banned Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 20,145	Where as Hillary voters voted twice and sometimes three times
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7th October 2019, 04:17 AM	#427
Belz... Fiend God Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: In a post-fact world Posts: 92,225	Originally Posted by applecorped Where as Hillary voters voted twice and sometimes three times Good joke. 6/10.
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9th October 2019, 05:31 PM	#428
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 50,583	Originally Posted by Belz... Good joke. 6/10. And I think he stole that line from Leo De Capio in Scorsese's "Gangs Of New York".
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10th October 2019, 01:35 PM	#429
Crossbow Seeking Honesty and Sanity Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Charleston, WV Posts: 13,414	Originally Posted by applecorped Where as Hillary voters voted twice and sometimes three times Just another lie.
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10th October 2019, 02:06 PM	#430
Segnosaur Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada, eh? Posts: 17,358	Originally Posted by Eddie Dane Is an impeachment actually likely to get him out of office? Probably not (at least not directly), since republicans in the Senate are unlikely to vote him out. Quote: Or is it just an inconvenient media/legal circus that ties down the accused during proceedings? Trump has been a very corrupt and destructive individual. Impeachment proceedings can do 3 things (any of which will be beneficial) - It might force him out of office. (The chance is tiny, but it still exists) - By highlighting some of his corrupt behavior, it gives added knowledge to the electorate in the next election, so that even if he's not forced out within the next year, there is a better chance he'll lose in 2020. - It may help 'tie him down', if Republicans decide that the added attention of impeachment necessitates them actually cracking down on Trump. Now, there is a chance he may become more unstable over time, but given how bad he was before, I can't really see things getting much worse. Quote: No presidency has ever been ended by this procedure, right? Nixon resigned, but he would not have left office were it not for the impeachment proceedings. Quote: Would it not just feed the -already substantial- persecution fantasy of Trump's base and energize them for the elections? There is a chance that some people who might have liked Trump are encouraged to vote instead of sitting out the 2020 election. But there's also a chance it will energize people who might have sat out thinking "Trump ain't so bad" to make them think "Ok, this guy really does need to be removed".
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10th October 2019, 02:30 PM	#431
theprestige Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 50,644	Do we even have a definition of "peak Trump"?

10th October 2019, 02:34 PM	#432
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25th October 2019, 01:34 AM	#433
The Great Zaganza Maledictorian Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 14,877	The fact that Trump's excusers are fighting a rearguard action on everything he does is a good indication that the Trump Train is running out of steam: he is under siege and it's a question of when, not if. Republicans just hope that the When will be after 2020.
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25th October 2019, 01:55 AM	#434
The Don Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sir Fynwy Posts: 31,629	Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza The fact that Trump's excusers are fighting a rearguard action on everything he does is a good indication that the Trump Train is running out of steam: he is under siege and it's a question of when, not if. Republicans just hope that the When will be after 2020. Give it a couple of weeks, the current set of "scandals" will have blow over and most of the electorate will have forgotten that they have ever happened or remembered a different version. President Trump's approval will be back to exactly where it's been for the last 3 years.

25th October 2019, 02:13 AM	#435
The Great Zaganza Maledictorian Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 14,877	Originally Posted by The Don Give it a couple of weeks, the current set of "scandals" will have blow over and most of the electorate will have forgotten that they have ever happened or remembered a different version. President Trump's approval will be back to exactly where it's been for the last 3 years. maybe. But if you look at the right wing/alt-right media, it's clear that there is no longer an enthusiasm for Trump: 2020 can at best be a vote against a Democrat, not one for Trump. In 2016, Trump managed to mobilize a lot of otherwise passive voters; all that Democrats need in 2020 is for those Republicans to stay home.
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