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Old 24th November 2020, 03:12 AM   #1
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Allegations of Fraud in 2020 US Election Part II

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Old 24th November 2020, 07:35 AM   #2
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Attorney heading up Trump campaign's Wisconsin recount effort is seeking to throw out his own vote:
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The attorney leading President Donald Trump’s recount effort in Wisconsin voted illegally according to his own legal argument that in-person absentee ballots should be thrown out. So did his wife.

Jim Troupis, a former Dane County judge and Cross Plains attorney who is representing the Trump campaign, would not answer questions about why he and his wife voted that way.

Troupis and his wife voted early using the state's in-person absentee option — one of a group of voters whose ballots the Trump campaign has asked election officials to deem illegal.

I have no words.
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Old 24th November 2020, 08:25 AM   #3
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Add to that the board that wouldn’t certify their results even though Trump won in their county and you really begin to understand these folks. I think they missed the “don’t” in
"Don’t cut off your nose to spite your face" .
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Add to that the board that wouldn’t certify their results even though Trump won in their county and you really begin to understand these folks. I think they missed the “don’t” in
"Don’t cut off your nose to spite your face" .
Well, that is part of Trump's effort to delay the certification at the State level (in PA) until a miracle happens. Given Rudy's success in the courts till now, it probably won't work. But there is a (perverse and disgusting) rationale there.

ETA: no miracle occurred: "Today @PAStateDept certified the results of the November 3 election in Pennsylvania for president and vice president of the United States. As required by federal law, I’ve signed the Certificate of Ascertainment for the slate of electors for Joe Biden and Kamala Harris."

https://twitter.com/GovernorTomWolf/...63684681867266
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I have not been following the Trump threads but surely someone must have posted this by now?

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Old 24th November 2020, 10:08 AM   #6
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Trump is reportedly worried that his lawyers are "fools" and are "making him look bad"
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Old 24th November 2020, 10:10 AM   #7
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Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim View Post
His lawyers are fools.

But as for making Trump look bad, that ship had already sailed.
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[Trump fires people after they resign] ...Because he cannot bear the idea that anyone else is in control, or that he is not the centre of attention!
It happens again and again.
And yet the true believers never see this trait of his. Or do they see it and admire him for it?

With faith like that, the Always-Trumpets are going to make the next several years long and tiring.
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Old 24th November 2020, 10:48 AM   #9
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Facts about Dominion voting machines and tabulators.

Not all counties used Dominion voting machines.

The 14 Wisconsin counties that did use Dominion machines Donald Trump won.

Dominion voting machines use electronic touchpads that tabulate and create a printed ballot. The ballots allow the machines to be audited and vice versa.

Georgia which used Dominion voting machines completed a manual recount and audit and it confirmed the first count.
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Old 24th November 2020, 10:49 AM   #10
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Quick question

Are we going to use this thread or start a new thread for the pool for when Trump will announce that his special teams of investigators are looking at shocking evidence in several states.


I’m thinking Friday, January 8.

Then again, between his general impatience and his ire at Biden repeatedly being the lead story in the coming weeks, it might happen before Christmas.
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When he's right, he's right.

Although, I think it would be more accurate to say that they are "making him look worse", which was not easy.
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His lawyers are fools.

But as for making Trump look bad, that ship had already sailed.
Nobody is quite as good at making Trump look bad as Trump. But Rudy and Powell came very close.
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I have not been following the Trump threads but surely someone must have posted this by now?

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I did think of this in reference to a certain Trump-supporting poster...
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Old 24th November 2020, 01:51 PM   #14
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Leather and Lace?

Or was that Trump and Stormy?
Trump in leather? I don't think I want to see that.
Who says Trump got the leather?
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Old 24th November 2020, 03:33 PM   #15
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Quick question

Are we going to use this thread or start a new thread for the pool for when Trump will announce that his special teams of investigators are looking at shocking evidence in several states.


I’m thinking Friday, January 8.

Then again, between his general impatience and his ire at Biden repeatedly being the lead story in the coming weeks, it might happen before Christmas.
Maybe he could have another million maga march on the day of the inauguration.

This time they could be chanting "Release the other Kraken! Release the other Kraken! And make it a better Kraken this time"
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The intervenors in the federal appeals case have responded: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_iG...iE1O7OBkU/view
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Maybe he could have another million maga march on the day of the inauguration.

This time they could be chanting "Release the other Kraken! Release the other Kraken! And make it a better Kraken this time"
Or better still:

:SCREW THE KRAKEN: RELEASE CTHULUHU!"
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The intervenors in the federal appeals case have responded: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_iG...iE1O7OBkU/view

Somewhere in that document there is a footnote where they call out Trump's team for LYING about the votes that came without an inner security envelope.

First, they point out that they misrepresent the SoS instruction on how to deal with them, which was, in fact, to not count them.

Second, they imply that that they were actually counted, even though there is no evidence they were.

To summarize: the SoS told the counties to throw out ballots that came without inner security envelopes. All indications are they did. But Rudy put it in their complaint that the counties did not disregard those ballots but should have. It's completely made up.

But then again, the President's lawyers, ladies and gentlemen....
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I'm guessing he was told that by the lawyers that withdrew from the case, but who's counting?
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He is doing a damn good job of that on hi\s own without any help...
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Quick question

Are we going to use this thread or start a new thread for the pool for when Trump will announce that his special teams of investigators are looking at shocking evidence in several states.
Well, Sidney Powell is picking up the reins from Orly TaitzWP so he's off to a good start.
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Watch out Rudy, there's a bus a comin' !
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Antifa guy Eric Coomer Explains How To Alter Votes In The Dominion Voting System


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtB3tLaXLJE
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Antifa guy Eric Coomer Explains How To Alter Votes In The Dominion Voting System


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtB3tLaXLJE
too bad Rudy or Sidney never presented this in Court.

Now it's way too late.
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Maybe he could have another million maga march on the day of the inauguration.

This time they could be chanting "Release the other Kraken! Release the other Kraken! And make it a better Kraken this time"


Wrong. Be patient. "The Kraken" has yet to be released.




Powell starts with Georgia today or tomorrow



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"We have conclusive evidence Dominion software stole the election. It is a massive lawsuit. I'm confident Trump will prevail"

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too bad Rudy or Sidney never presented this in Court.

Now it's way too late.


Really?? You're certain of this??
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Really?? You're certain of this??
The video you presented has been up since 2017. The accusations against Cooper have been around long enough for Snopes to have a page on the accusations against the guy.

Of course, the method shown would be countered with any recount, and Trump lost via the mail-in ballots of people who respect the dangers of a pandemic.
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Who is Powell's client?
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The video you presented has been up since 2017. The accusations against Cooper have been around long enough for Snopes to have a page on the accusations against the guy.
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!

Maybe next Bubba will post a video of a gangster robbing a bank with a tommy gun, from 1939.

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Really?? You're certain of this??
completely.


But don't worry, you'll find something else to put all your hopes upon in a day or two.
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Really?? You're certain of this??
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completely.


But don't worry, you'll find something else to put all your hopes upon in a day or two.
Certain as 306 - 232.
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Antifa guy Eric Coomer Explains How To Alter Votes In The Dominion Voting System


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtB3tLaXLJE
Except of course Eric Coomer is not explaining "How To Alter Votes In The Dominion Voting System", he's explaining how to ascertain the voter's intended selection when they haven't made that selection 100% clear.

It is in fact, impossible to alter votes in the Dominion Voting System in any way that cannot be detected in the hand count. The voter uses the machine to print a printed ballot, which the voter checks for correctness before handing it to the poll worker. It is that printed ballot which is hand counted for the results in each district, and subsequent state to be certified.

If a voter votes for Trump and then the machine switches the vote to Biden before the ballot is printed, the voter would notice this on the ballot paper when they check it.

If a voter votes for Trump and then the machine switches the vote to Biden after the ballot is printed, the totals of the hand counted ballots would not match the electronic vote tally.

There's a good explanation of this process, and of how vote switching is impossible, in this Fox News interview with Michael Steele, spokesperson for Dominion Voting Machines.

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Powell starts with Georgia today or tomorrow
Is this the one where she accuses the Republican SOS and the Republican governor of fixing the election for Biden? Should be good for a laugh.
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Is this the one where she accuses the Republican SOS and the Republican governor of fixing the election for Biden? Should be good for a laugh.
Yes. Then she's gonna charge them and have Andy and Barn come down from Mayberry to arrest them.
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Yes. Then she's gonna charge them and have Andy and Barn come down from Mayberry to arrest them.

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The video you presented has been up since 2017. The accusations against Cooper have been around long enough for Snopes to have a page on the accusations against the guy.

Of course, the method shown would be countered with any recount, and Trump lost via the mail-in ballots of people who respect the dangers of a pandemic.
Here's the Snopes link and their conclusion. Their finding: unconfirmed. Basically, no evidence other than Otlmann's say so and his word is simply not credible. He failed go provide his alleged affidavit when requested to do so.

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In mid-November, Oltmann published what appeared to be several screenshots from the Facebook account of an individual named Eric Coomer. We found an account whose profile picture matched that of the account apparently featured in the screenshots, but we have not yet been able to verify that it is owned by Eric Coomer from Dominion.

Snopes asked Oltmann for any and all relevant screenshots, archived links and URLs relating to what he presented as Coomer’s past pronouncements on Facebook, and in particular any concrete evidence demonstrating that the Facebook account did indeed belong to Eric Coomer from Dominion.

In response, Oltmann told Snopes he had “over 200 pictures and screenshots,” though he didn’t specify whether they constituted the proof we had requested. Oltmann expressed reluctance about providing them to Snopes, and ultimately did not do so in time for publication. If we receive substantive additional evidence, we will update this article accordingly.

Since we haven’t yet been able to verify the authenticity of the screenshots, or confirm that they were actually posted by Eric Coomer from Dominion, we’re not linking to them in this article. They included a post that contained a purported statement by “Antifa,” but no clear sign that the poster endorsed the statement; a vehemently anti-Trump post from July 2016; a post dismissive of Trump supporters in Texas; posts of YouTube videos for songs whose titles or lyrics expressed antipathy towards police; and a post that strongly criticized a controversial “election integrity” commission set up by Trump to investigate his own unfounded claims of widespread electoral fraud in the 2016 elections.

To reiterate, we don’t know whether Eric Coomer from Dominion created the posts shown in the screenshots Oltmann published. However, even if he did, they would not constitute proof of any impropriety on his part, and certainly would not point towards any election interference on his part. They do indicate that whoever created them is strongly critical of Trump and some of his followers. It might be inadvisable for an employee of an election technology company to articulate those views on social media, but the posts are not, in and of themselves, proof of improper actions.
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Wrong. Be patient. "The Kraken" has yet to be released.
Powell starts with Georgia today or tomorrow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpT2Rz4rTWM
Bubba, I'm starting to get the feeling this Powell woman ain't all she's krakened up to be.
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He is sharp, this Trump guy.
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Bubba, I'm starting to get the feeling this Powell woman ain't all she's krakened up to be.
Who is Powell's client?
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