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27th December 2007, 08:40 AM | #1 |
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Advert banned for being truthful
I have a hard time understanding this - it is OK to say that Santa (or more accurately Father Frost) exists, even though this must contradict what most parents/teachers tell their kids but it is a breach of advertising rules to suggest he doesn't exist because that suggests that parents are not telling the truth, and the fact that they aren't telling the truth is apparently not a sufficient reason to suggest they aren't telling the truth.
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27th December 2007, 08:55 AM | #2 |
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So, that's what is meant by "truth in advertising".....
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27th December 2007, 09:00 AM | #3 |
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It's Russia. They're not exactly the model on which free speech is based.
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27th December 2007, 09:07 AM | #4 |
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27th December 2007, 12:28 PM | #5 |
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27th December 2007, 12:53 PM | #6 |
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I would think that such a commercial would be really, really bad PR. I still would be highly ticked if it were banned in my country.
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27th December 2007, 12:56 PM | #7 |
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In post-Soviet Russia, Santa decides that YOU don't exist.
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27th December 2007, 01:14 PM | #8 |
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The laws governing the press in GB are quite different from those in the US.
In the US, anyone stupid enough to take out an ad telling little kids that Santa does not exist (why on earth would you do this?) would have a very hard time finding any major venue willing to take any amount of money to publish same. Why? Simple economics: most of their other advertisers would leave them entirely, or at least for some time. Tokie |
27th December 2007, 01:14 PM | #9 |
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NPR did a piece a couple of weeks ago where some high school students went around asking their friends how and when they learned that Santa wasn't real. They gave a warning before the piece that if little kids were present the parents perhaps would want to turn the sound off, but they wound up getting a bunch of hate mail castigating them for airing such an article. Apparently no one believed they would really do such a dastardly thing.
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Ah, the naughty and the nice. Be careful you may find coal in your stocking next year, which of course may not be a bad thing if you happen to have a coal burning stove. In that case be as naughty as you please.
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27th December 2007, 07:08 PM | #20 |
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27th December 2007, 08:35 PM | #21 |
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Advert banned for being truthful
That thread title had me wondering if I'd ever seen an "Advert" post in the forums.
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28th December 2007, 06:43 PM | #22 |
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29th December 2007, 08:28 AM | #23 |
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Think of the government as a big business that just happens to own all of the TV channels.
What's the difference, then? |
29th December 2007, 08:38 AM | #24 |
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29th December 2007, 10:40 AM | #25 |
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29th December 2007, 11:12 AM | #26 |
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Very telling that Yuri Gagarin said he saw no God or angels up there.
What he didn't say ... http://www.mazaika.com/postcard/aerospace0.htm Father Frost exists and is a hero of the Soviet space program. |
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4th January 2008, 11:50 AM | #28 |
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The difference is that government isn't a big business. Businesses have to aquire things by creating them or by the creators consenting to give it to them. Governments just take things by force. Which leads to the next big difference, if you didn't like the restrictions placed on TV, you could just create another way to broadcast video and use that to your heart content. However, in the government scenerio, they would just take your new creation as well.
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5th January 2008, 01:12 PM | #29 |
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Nobody created the electromagnetic spectrum. It's just there. So who should have the right to use it for broadcasting, or to sell it to someone else to use?
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7th January 2008, 04:05 PM | #31 |
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But that's the point with out regulations and control it would just be a messy battlefield with broadcasters not only competing for market share but for bandwidth as well. With one trying to overpower the signal of another and only the most powerful would get through. For most it would just be a useless mess. It is incumbent on all people and thus their representatives (the government) to ensure control, regulate the use and hopefully regain some operating expresses. Who must intervene between me and some object in order for me to use the electromagnetic spectrum to see it that object? Use of the visible portion of the electromagnetic spectrum is not as regulated now as it may need to be in the future. Imagine when (and it might not be far away with some serious human intervention) an advertisement could be beamed directly onto the retina of a passer by. |
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