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Old 10th January 2022, 11:41 AM   #321
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Originally Posted by arayder View Post
Mr. Menard,

During your March 8, 2021 interview with Beth Martens you claimed you had forced the city of Montreal and an unnamed municipality in B.C. to pay for court ordered modifications to the residences of two of your clients.

You claimed that the court’s use of the phrase “court order” meant the court had placed an order for goods or services rather than issuing a mandate.

You also claimed that the two clients received sheepishly apologetic letters from city officials immediately upon receiving one of your letters to the authorities.

I challenge you to produce documentation of your claim including the afore mentioned letters from the city of Montreal and the municipality in B.C..
Originally Posted by arayder View Post
Mr. Menard, my sources suggest that the B.C. municipality you "say" you buffaloed into paying for court ordered modifications to one of your client's home was North Cowichan and the person you say you bested was Mike Dunn.

Am I right?

Shall I contact Mr. Dunn and check out your tall tale?
As promised Robert's claim is being checked out:

Austin Rayder <arayderxxxxxxxxxx.com>
To:
mike.dunn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.ca

Mon, Jan 10 at 1:34 PM

Mr. Dunn,

I am contacting you to check on the accuracy of a report by Robert Menard, a so called freeman-on-the-land, claiming that in 2017 he forced North Cowichan to resend an order for repairs to a suite in the home one of his "clients", identified as "JV".

Below you can see a copy of the letter Mr. Menard posted on his Facebook page.

In subsequent interviews Mr. Menard claimed that he forced the North Cowichan to resend the order by claiming that the order was the same as an order for goods and services, or a "bill".

See 29:00: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7ZpINjWaMc

My question is whether Mr. Menard's report is accurate?

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Austin Rayder

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Friday, April 21, 2017
TO:
Mike Dunn
Bylaw Compliance Officer
mike.dunn@xxxxxxxxxxx.ca
CC: jv@xxxxxxxx.com
File No: 0XXXX-001
CIB 00XXX
RE: Order Letter Dated March 31, 2017
Hello and good day. Robert Arthur Menard here, acting as agent for my friend Jxxxx Vxxxxx.
You had contacted him and informed him that something on his private property was in violation of one of your corporation’s rules.
I lieu of arguing or abandoning his common law rights, we asked that you send us a work order under corporate letterhead and properly signed by an identifiable party willing to accept the liability for the order. Let it be known he is willing to comply with the order and allow access, provided the order is lawfully issued and payment for the order is first received.
We accept that many people may wish to simply voluntarily comply and pay for the work themselves, and may even consider it to be a civic duty or feel they have some sort of obligation at law to follow the corporate rules of the municipality. Through ignorance they may fail to exercise their rights fully, and you may now consider that path of ignorance to be standard procedure. However the ignorance of the foolish does not bind the wise, and one person’s refusal to exercise their rights does not destroy that right for other parties. Our perspective is somewhat different, and in order to understand this perspective, you will need to understand some basic incontrovertible facts which many people simply ignore or fail to realize.
Therefore for the purpose of identifying agreed to facts, we will share our beliefs and perspectives with you. These are a series of facts which if all are true, result in one and only one outcome concerning our mutual obligations. I apologize if this is less than brief, however it is necessary not only for your benefit, but for the benefit of any future adjudicators, and for the public at large.
1) You are a human being in a common law jurisdiction operating as an agent for a municipal corporation ordering compliance to the bylaws of that corporation by someone who is not employed by or subject to your corporation. The best description of the relationship which exists between JV and your corporation is one of a customer or recipient of services and a service provider.
2) You are a human being in a common law jurisdiction and equality is paramount and mandatory. JV is also a human being in the same common law jurisdiction. He is not your employee, agent, servant or slave. There is no function at law which makes him obliged to follow your orders.
3) A bylaw is a rule of a corporation, and corporations are imaginary constructs, or fictions, and you are acting as an agent for a corporation. The people providing municipal services cloak themselves in the legal construct known as a corporation. This construct provides them with certain benefits and protections from liabilities, but must therefore carry certain burdens and obligations.
4) The limited ability to act only within a certain geographical area does not grant the power to act without limit within that geographical area. Provincial legislation empowers you to provide municipal services. But Federal legislation and the common law limits those actions as well. You do not have free reign, and are in fact bound by the law when providing your services and securing performance.
5) Giving an order creates a liability for a bill. This is true for everyone. Placing an order without intent or ability to pay for the goods, services or performances received is an act of fraud. After all, you got paid for giving the order. It is ludicrous to believe the one fulfilling your order and doing the work should not be paid.
6) The property in question does not belong to the corporation but instead is the private property of JV. Fulfilling your order will cause JV to incur considerable cost, loss and cause ongoing future damages in the form of lost revenue and decreased property value.
Care to test this concept theoretically? Imagine changing your bylaws so that agents for the corporation can go to any restaurant in the geographical area within which you are allowed to operate, and order them to fill your orders or the orders of all employees of the corporation and tell them they do not have a right to present a bill. Try telling people who operate cleaning services that they are obliged due to your corporate bylaws to provide the corporation and all their employees with free cleaning services. Try telling tradesmen and contractors that they must provide services to city hall for free, due to the bylaws dictated by the corporate officers. Try passing bylaws which state that employees must come to work without any pay, merely because the corporation passed a bylaw to that affect. You can see how absurd such a position rapidly becomes, and would require people to be essentially slaves to the corporation and the agents and employees thereof.
�So we see the people have three choices. They can voluntarily comply with the corporations rules, believing they are applicable automatically. They can operate upon an order and then not issue a bill for services rendered due to their ignorance of the law. Or they can demand an order, and then issue a bill for that order, refusing to fulfill the order until payment has been received. Because they are not slaves, and this is their right in a common law jurisdiction when dealing with corporations. Any corporation. Even those established to provide municipal services.
Let us also not forget that this so called ‘illegal suite’ is in no way interfering with, harming or affecting the livability of the neighbourhood or the quality of life of residents, and has been in place for well over a decade.
Therefore JV is now in the process of securing tenders from tradesmen and contractors and will choose the most suitable one to do the work, and will get a quote from them for the work. He will also analyst his loss of income fulfilling your order will cause. Once done, he will issue a BILL for the amount calculated, and present it to you for payment. Work will commence once payment has been received and processed, and not before. I remind you that issuing an order without intent or ability to pay for the order being filled is an act of fraud and contrary to the Criminal Code of Canada. Failure to pay the BILL within 72 hours will result in the order being deemed withdrawn.
JV is more than willing to take this matter to the highest court in the land, and is confident they will rule that we are all equal, and orders from corporations, (even municipal ones operating under provincial legislation) directed towards an individual generate liability for the cost of fulfilling orders on the one who issued them. Otherwise we are all slaves.
Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions or concerns.
Sincerely and without malice aforethought, ill will, vexation or frivolity,
Robert Menard
Agent for JV
xxx-xxx-xxxx

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Dope Clock II: It's been 203 days since Bobby Menard announced plans to create "Artists Valley". So far all he has done is lie through his teeth.
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Old 12th January 2022, 11:45 AM   #322
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Antivaxxers, you have a traitor in your midst!

Nazi Bobby is busy chattering and sharing about Quebec's plans to tax the unvaccinated.

He thinks it's tyranny.

Well, what does he expect? A couple of years ago he was gleeful about the province enacting legislation that denied Quebecers the right to practice their chosen religions!

Bobby let the fox in the hen house. Now he's crying like a baby!

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Dope Clock II: It's been 205 days since Bobby Menard announced plans to create "Artists Valley". So far all he has done is lie through his teeth.

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Old 13th January 2022, 12:15 PM   #323
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Nazi Bob caught in another lie!

Originally Posted by arayder View Post
Nazi Bobby is busy chattering and sharing about Quebec's plans to tax the unvaccinated.

He thinks it's tyranny.

Well, what does he expect? A couple of years ago he was gleeful about the province enacting legislation that denied Quebecers the right to practice their chosen religions!

Bobby let the fox in the hen house. Now he's crying like a baby!
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Robert Menard Apparently, I am personally and solely responsible for the government of Quebec initiating a fine on the unvaxxed because I mocked their legislation banning facial coverings of public employees by pointing out it would restrict police officers from wearing their facial coverings.
Sorry Quebec, but it was I and I alone who let the fox in the hen house.
I never realized the amount of power I wield.
Bobby, you are a lying sack.

You know dang well that in addition to complaining that Bill 21 didn't restrict cops you went off on an anti-Muslim rant that would make your spiritual mentor, Joseph Goebbels, proud.

You called the religious practice of Muslim women dressing modestly in public with their faces covered "un-Canadian" and openly endorsed the freedom killing Bill 21.

You are a pathetic little hypocrite who has no problem with government tyranny as long as it fits your base and vile prejudices.

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Old 13th January 2022, 04:08 PM   #324
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Daddy turns in his grave. . .

It's painfully clear what the problem is with Bobby.

He's rejected the Canadian Constitution and the Charter of Rights, the latter, protecting the "freedom of conscience and religion", saying they they are just pieces of paper that don't apply to him because doesn't accept them.

Imaging Canada is absent these protections of fundamental rights Bobby fantasizes he is totally free to malign Muslims and their religious practices.

Most shocking is that his own father, who Bobby professed to adore, served and fought to protect the rights and freedoms Bobby tosses in the ash can.

This is your brave freedom fighter, anti-vaxxers.

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Old 14th January 2022, 02:46 AM   #325
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The facts on Bobby's anti-Muslim bigotry. . .

To their credit some freemen posting on Bobby's Fascistbook page saw Quebec's anti-Muslum statute for the tyranny it is. See this quote by a noted freeman, Paul Fiola:

Quote:
Paul Fiola: IMO, at least they [Muslims] believe what they believe enough to fight for it.

But the freeman overlord said:

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Robert Menard: But not enough to allow others to fight against it in an equal manner.
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Robert Menard: . . .these masks are religious garb that provide no tactical benefits or increased safety. Their sole purpose is to hide the identity of the 'priests'
What total bigoted ignorance! Bobby doesn't know or care that many Muslim woman dress modestly and cover their faces as a practice of their religion having nothing to do with "tactical benefits", "increased safety" or "to hide" their identity!

If Bobby ever bothered to put down his Moosehead and get out in the world he'd know that Muslim women are easily identifiable as individuals when wearing their face coverings!

Clearly Bobby Brown Shirt thinks the religious practices of others are subject to his approval.

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Old 14th January 2022, 11:26 AM   #326
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Originally Posted by arayder View Post
To their credit some freemen posting on Bobby's Fascistbook page saw Quebec's anti-Muslum statute for the tyranny it is. See this quote by a noted freeman, Paul Fiola:




But the freeman overlord said:





What total bigoted ignorance! Bobby doesn't know or care that many Muslim woman dress modestly and cover their faces as a practice of their religion having nothing to do with "tactical benefits", "increased safety" or "to hide" their identity!

If Bobby ever bothered to put down his Moosehead and get out in the world he'd know that Muslim women are easily identifiable as individuals when wearing their face coverings!

Clearly Bobby Brown Shirt thinks the religious practices of others are subject to his approval.

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Just another subject in a long list the Bobby Moosehead knows nothing about. I worked with Muslims for two decades and had zero issues telling them apart. Aside from the sometimes unpronouncable names that is.
Fighting for your rights is honorable and a good cause. Fighting against someone else's rights just shows someone as a bigoted turd.
I wonder if Bobby has the same opinion of catholics who wear crosses or Jews who insist on wearing a yarmulke and refuse to work after sundown on fridays?
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Old 14th January 2022, 12:05 PM   #327
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To their credit some freemen posting on Bobby's Fascistbook page saw Quebec's anti-Muslum statute for the tyranny it is. See this quote by a noted freeman, Paul Fiola:

Quote:
Paul Fiola: IMO, at least they [Muslims] believe what they believe enough to fight for it.
But the freeman overlord said:

Quote:
Robert Menard: But not enough to allow others to fight against it in an equal manner.
Quote:
Robert Menard: . . .these masks are religious garb that provide no tactical benefits or increased safety. Their sole purpose is to hide the identity of the 'priests'
What total bigoted ignorance! Bobby doesn't know or care that many Muslim woman dress modestly and cover their faces as a practice of their religion having nothing to do with "tactical benefits", "increased safety" or "to hide" their identity!

If Bobby ever bothered to put down his Moosehead and get out in the world he'd know that Muslim women are easily identifiable as individuals when wearing their face coverings!

Clearly Bobby Brown Shirt thinks the religious practices of others are subject to his approval.

Originally Posted by gmanontario View Post
Just another subject in a long list the Bobby Moosehead knows nothing about. I worked with Muslims for two decades and had zero issues telling them apart. Aside from the sometimes unpronouncable names that is.
Fighting for your rights is honorable and a good cause. Fighting against someone else's rights just shows someone as a bigoted turd.
I wonder if Bobby has the same opinion of catholics who wear crosses or Jews who insist on wearing a yarmulke and refuse to work after sundown on fridays?
Now, Bobby's trying to pretend he wasn't talking about Muslims.

All the reader has to do is go to Brown Shirt's Fascistbook page and search for "Muslims". The hate speech will make you gag.

Here's few of the low points:

". . .humus loving niqāb wearer(s)."

"Islam. . .teach[es] that children as young as 9 could be married and bedded. They would teach that you could have up to five wives. . . . .that you could have slaves. . . . .that women are not equal with men, and can be punished with a beating for disobeying their men. . . . that you must submit to their will or be killed, with your children and women taken as slaves. If you did not immediately convert they would kill you. . . .that women who are raped could be flogged and those committing adultery should be stoned to death. . . . .kill homosexuals immediately regardless of if they submitted to the will of the religion. . . .that you must not fraternize with anyone who is not a Muslim. . . . .that there are dress laws which are violently enforced. . . . .command you to pray publicly 5 times a day and to make it a spectacle. . .".

"If your argument is that she [a Muslim woman] has the right to wear it [a face covering] because it makes her feel safer, that raises a number of issues. Why and how would it make her feel safer? It interferes with her peripheral vision, and draws attention to her. Do they suffer form some sort of mental affliction which denies them an ability to show their face in public? Do they have a PHOBIA?"


I could go on, But I am sickened at just these few.

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Old 15th January 2022, 06:42 AM   #328
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One of Bobby's biggest lies!!!!!!

As you all may recall I have been checking out one of Bobby's success stories:

Originally Posted by arayder View Post
Mr. Menard,

During your March 8, 2021 interview with Beth Martens you claimed you had forced the city of Montreal and an unnamed municipality in B.C. to pay for court ordered modifications to the residences of two of your clients.

You claimed that the court’s use of the phrase “court order” meant the court had placed an order for goods or services rather than issuing a mandate.

You also claimed that the two clients received sheepishly apologetic letters from city officials immediately upon receiving one of your letters to the authorities.

I challenge you to produce documentation of your claim including the afore mentioned letters from the city of Montreal and the municipality in B.C..
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Mr. Menard, my sources suggest that the B.C. municipality you "say" you buffaloed into paying for court ordered modifications to one of your client's home wasin North Cowichan and the person you say you bested was Mike Dunn.

Am I right?

Shall I contact Mr. Dunn and check out your tall tale?
It turns out Mr. Dunn has been replaced by Kim Ferris and she quietly destroys Bobby self-aggrandizing lie!

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Kim Ferris <kim.ferris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.ca>
To:'Austin Rayder'

Fri, Jan 14 at 1:30 PM

Dear Austin Rayder,

Robert Menard was not successful in his representation of the property owner, and the property violation is currently an active file.

Regards,

Kim Ferris
Manager
BYLAW & LICENSING SERVICES
Municipality of North Cowichan


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Menard lied like a dog just to make himself look good on Beth Marten's show and to pretend he has "remedies".

The property is 3141 Sherman Road, North Cowichan. It's the property that "JV" used to rent. Thanks to Bobby "JV" got the shaft. Real estate listings show that the property is not up for sale and is not being used as a rental property. I suspect no one will buy it because JV hasn't settled the matter of the ordered repairs. And since use of the property as a rental is prohibited until the repairs are made JV is out the rent fees.

Thanks to Bobby Menard, freemandia's biggest liar!

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Old 15th January 2022, 10:25 AM   #329
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Bobby's sad reply:

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1h ·
HAHAHAH!
"Robert Menard was not successful in his representation of the property owner, and the property violation is currently an active file."
Define successful. Is it still an active file? If so that means the suite is still in operation, and they are not trying to stop him. If he had decommissioned his suite years ago, the file would not be active, would it?
If his suite is still operational, and the city is leaving him alone, they can have all the 'active files' they want. It is still a success in my book, and in the eyes of the property owner.
Why is it still active if they have the power they claim?
They gave an order, received a bill, and are now sitting on the 'active file'' with the suite still operating.
Nice try, Pudding Eater.
PS- It is not listed for rent because he has a long-term tenant in it.
The word twistings this congenital liar are sad to watch. What part of "not successful" does Liar Bobby not understand?

An active file suggests "JV" never fixed what he was supposed to fix. That would fit with him not selling or renting the property as the realtor's web listings report. No buyer wants a house with un-remediated code violations and no realtor will sell one such. Most renters are wise to such sloppiness and that may be what got "JV" in trouble in the first place.

Now it is possible that "JV' has somebody squatting on the property the way Bobby used to squat in derelict homes. The real shame here is that owning the property "JV" can't flee jurisdiction of the city as does Bobby whenever he's in trouble.

Bobby, why don't just man up and settle the whole thang by producing the letter in which you said the city backed down? Is there no such letter?

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Only in Freelandia is losing considered a win.

After reading his letter and the letter from the town rep, this is a huge win. Bobby's usual MO though. He wants a definition of not successful. He should be well versed in that.
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Old 15th January 2022, 12:21 PM   #331
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Originally Posted by gmanontario View Post
Only in Freelandia is losing considered a win.

After reading his letter and the letter from the town rep, this is a huge win. Bobby's usual MO though. He wants a definition of not successful. He should be well versed in that.
In his interview with Beth Marten's Bobby said ". . .we got a letter from the [city] lawyer saying that a mistake had been made and that they were rescinding the order and now they let him [JV] go and there's really nothing they can do. . ."

But when he finds out that the city is still exercising its authority over "JV's" rental property in the form of an active case file he tries to make the facts into proof of the very thing they disprove.

It's interesting to note that in response to the first few emails I wrote the city they kept asking if I had a complaint against "JV" as if they knew the case very well and were ready to act on something. I had to keep telling them all I wanted to know was if Menard's magic letter had worked.

Their reply was that Bobby "was not successful", as if they couldn't wait to tell me.

The really stupid thing Bobby did was to screw over his client, "JV" by claiming that he still has a renter. . .something that might well get him in further hot water.

Dang, with friends like Bobby who needs enemas?

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Old 15th January 2022, 01:40 PM   #332
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Bobby incriminates his own client. . .

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Robert Menard . . .There are no squatters, but renters
Way to go, Bobby, you just told the world your client is renting a property that likely doesn't meet code.

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And the fact that the property is not listed does not mean he can't sell it himself, nor that he is even attempting to sell it. Which he isn't.
Never bought much of anything have 'ya, Bobby? Sane folks have the homes they think about buying inspected. If "JV" is really acting on your lame advice that means he's got a turkey just about nobody would buy. Thanks to you.

That's the same kind of bad advice you gave Lisa Chamberlain. You're turning into a menace to the freeman subculture.

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Why don't you ask your 'sources' (hahaha that still makes me laugh!) why the file is still active?
I'll get to the truth, with no help from, you, Bobby. My sources are the people you lie about and in whose mouths you try to put words.

Anybody reading this thread has to figure the city of Cowichan never sent the "mistake letter" you said they did anymore than any of your other "stories" proved true.

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Old 16th January 2022, 09:58 AM   #333
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The triumphant story

What we are seeing in this thread is the unmasking of one of the oldest phenomena in the detax/sovcit/freeman/poot subculture. . .the triumphant story.

One can go back in some of Bobby's old Youtubes* and see him giving an impromptu lecture at one of his phony peace officer swearing-ins. During the lecture Bobby wanders off to tell some tall tales about having set straight police officers he encountered through the use of some of his magic freeman words.

The gullible crowd is entranced with the stories. Subsequent speakers (all of whom have drunk the kool-aide and just become freeman peace officers) can't help but try to get some of the admiration by aping Bobby's stories, talking about encounters with the cops that went freeman-good only after they had learned the magic talk on Bobby's YouTubes.

The Bobby-wannabes clearly needed to work on their story telling.

Nobody dared say anything like. "Hey wait, that doesn't sound right!".

Like I said Bobby didn't invent the "triumphant story". He just saw it done and incorporated it into his freeman spiel.

Bobby's problem is that he has, over the years, slowly slid into the sad habit of presenting these tall tales as documentation of the usefulness of the remedies he sells to the gullible.

One might suspect that Bobby has so lost touch with reality that he thinks these stories are real. Or maybe he's just a fraud?

* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do3WKmWDiUA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka13Z6X3BKo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvWzNk4CIf0

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Old 18th January 2022, 06:00 AM   #334
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Is Bobby the next old man of Pootville?

Is it possible that Bobby is approaching the “late Eldon Warman” stage of his career in which his subculture begins to see him as a liability?

His follower numbers are dropping. He can't get an interview 'cause he's likely to show up drunk. One can hardly remember his last new "client". Nothing’s happening with Artist Valley, or any of the pretend projects. His tall tales have become laughable.

So sad. . .

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Dope Clock II: It's been 211 days since Bobby Menard announced plans to create "Artists Valley". So far all he has done is lie through his teeth.

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Old 18th January 2022, 11:03 AM   #335
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Originally Posted by arayder View Post
Is it possible that Bobby is approaching the “late Eldon Warman” stage of his career in which his subculture begins to see him as a liability?

His follower numbers are dropping. He can't get an interview 'cause he's likely to show up drunk. One can hardly remember his last new "client". Nothing’s happening with Artist Valley, or any of the pretend projects. His tall tales have become laughable.

So sad. . .

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Dope Clock II: It's been 211 days since Bobby Menard announced plans to create "Artists Valley". So far all he has done is lie through his teeth.
Perhaps he should do a self-filmed documentary on his being the poster boy for the failure of the Sovcit fad?
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Old 18th January 2022, 04:28 PM   #336
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Perhaps he should do a self-filmed documentary on his being the poster boy for the failure of the Sovcit fad?
That would involve actually doing work, so no chance.
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Old 18th January 2022, 04:38 PM   #337
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That would involve actually doing work, so no chance.
Not if it was three minutes long and just showed him slumped down in some garbage filled corner somewhere unconscious having P & B all over himself.
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Old 18th January 2022, 05:19 PM   #338
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Not if it was three minutes long and just showed him slumped down in some garbage filled corner somewhere unconscious having P & B all over himself.
You really want to tax his abilities dont you?
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Old 18th January 2022, 05:41 PM   #339
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Originally Posted by Hans View Post
Not if it was three minutes long and just showed him slumped down in some garbage filled corner somewhere unconscious having P & B all over himself.
"Work" and "soap" are the only four letter words Bobby doesn't use.

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Dope Clock II: It's been 211 days since Bobby Menard announced plans to create "Artists Valley". So far all he has done is lie through his teeth.

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Old 18th January 2022, 08:36 PM   #340
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Originally Posted by gmanontario View Post
You really want to tax his abilities dont you?
He might have to hire a drunk double for that scene.
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Rob's work day?

Originally Posted by Hans View Post
Not if it was three minutes long and just showed him slumped down in some garbage filled corner somewhere unconscious having P & B all over himself.
Originally Posted by gmanontario View Post
You really want to tax his abilities dont you?
Abilities? Bobby's been working at lurking here like he's got a room over by the smiles box. It may have escaped his followers and minions that instead of hanging on everything said here he ought to be engaged in his several "projects".

Why isn't he busy with the endless details involved in creating Artist Valley?

Why isn't he putting a lot of time making sure his book gets published?

Didn't he just resurrect the name stealing "Real 3Games" company?

Why isn't he working like crazy on his common law video lecture series?

Why is he working so hard at explaining away his "JV" lie when there's so much to be done?

Let me suggest the "projects" are a version of Bobby's triumphant story ruse in which pretends to be a busy successful entrepreneur.

At 58 his life is a lie.

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Dope Clock II: It's been 212 days since Bobby Menard announced plans to create "Artists Valley". So far all he has done is lie through his teeth.
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Old Yesterday, 09:23 AM   #342
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Originally Posted by arayder View Post
Abilities? Bobby's been working at lurking here like he's got a room over by the smiles box. It may have escaped his followers and minions that instead of hanging on everything said here he ought to be engaged in his several "projects".

Why isn't he busy with the endless details involved in creating Artist Valley?

Why isn't he putting a lot of time making sure his book gets published?

Didn't he just resurrect the name stealing "Real 3Games" company?

Why isn't he working like crazy on his common law video lecture series?

Why is he working so hard at explaining away his "JV" lie when there's so much to be done?

Let me suggest the "projects" are a version of Bobby's triumphant story ruse in which pretends to be a busy successful entrepreneur.

At 58 his life is a lie.

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Dope Clock II: It's been 212 days since Bobby Menard announced plans to create "Artists Valley". So far all he has done is lie through his teeth.
You just described his abilities. They amount to almost nothing but lies, braggadacio and self promotion to low IQ losers. Any concrete action will tax his abilities aside from drinking beer and smoking weed (probably supplied by others).
You're a loser Bobby boy with not only a capital L, but all caps. Have you spent all that money from your hugely successful lawsuit against WestJet yet?
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Old Yesterday, 11:02 AM   #343
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Bobby needs better stories!

Originally Posted by gmanontario View Post
You just described his abilities. They amount to almost nothing but lies, braggadacio and self promotion to low IQ losers. Any concrete action will tax his abilities aside from drinking beer and smoking weed (probably supplied by others).
You're a loser Bobby boy with not only a capital L, but all caps. Have you spent all that money from your hugely successful lawsuit against WestJet yet?
I am surprised at how readily Bobby makes up unrealistic stories and how gullible his followers are. Starting a business is very hard and takes time. Starting a community like Artist valley isn't done on a whim or in a Facebook post.

It's as if his subculture doesn't have enough real life experience to see through Bobby's childish tall tales.

His "JV" story/lie includes him tricking the city into re-writing their code violation notice so that it had the word "order" all over it so he could pretend it was an order for goods and services. The absurdity of the legal ploy aside, one has to ask what city official is not going to say, "Look, Menard, your client got his notice. I'm not re-writing it to make you happy."

Bobby used to try pulling this stuff on city officials during calls he recorded and put on YouTube. He had to stop doing so and going to completely made up stories because the officials cut him off mid rant saying, "You already have the our letter." and upon being threatened with a law suit saying, "I await your paperwork, good day.".

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Dope Clock II: It's been 212 days since Bobby Menard announced plans to create "Artists Valley". So far all he has done is lie through his teeth.
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Old Yesterday, 07:14 PM   #344
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A Question of Honor for Rob. . .

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Mr. Menard,

In the comments section of a February 24, 2021 YouTube entitled “Robert Arthur Menard: What it Took to Pioneer the Freeman on the Land Movement” you claimed that you had made the concept behind the Association of Canadian Consumer Purchasers (ACCP) work three different times.

You wrote: “. . . I have successfully used the Bills of Exchange Act three times to discharge consumer purchases. I am willing to identify and testify to all of this. . .”.

I challenge you to substantiate this this claim.
Robert, we all know your attempt to use the Bills of Exchange Act failed during the infamous Cactus Club incident. So that debacle can't count as a "success".

You have reported that a restaurateur considered your ploy but upon being advised against doing so by his attorney declined. So that can't count as a "success".

You have improbably claimed that the national grocery chain, Loblaws, was okay with the idea but decined to participate because they "didn't want to wait for three weeks to get their money". So that can't count as a "success".

So what were the three successes, Robert?

Let me remind you that you have pledged to ". . .testify to [all of] this".

Answer in honor, Robert.

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On the internet nobody knows you're fully vaxxed

Bobby shares this:

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THE LOGIC . . .
�� The UNV@XXED are causing the bars to stay closed even though UNV@XXED can't go there
�� The UNV@XXED are causing restaurants to limit capacity even though UNV@XXED can't go there
�� The UNV@XXED are causing gyms to limit capacity even though UNV@XXED can't go there
�� The UNV@XXED are causing universities to stay closed even though UNV@XXED can't go there
�� The UNV@XXED are causing team sports to be cancelled even though they can't participate
�� The UNV@XXED are causing the public events to be cancelled even though UNV@XXED can't go there
�� The UNV@XXED are being blamed for everything even though they are noticeably absent
This is how powerful the LIE has become!
One suspects that when there's MooseHeads involved Bobby whips out his vaccination card and says some magic freeman words to absolve himself of all guilt.

After all, this is the guy who resurrected his SIN years after he told the faithful he had ditched it.

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Dope Clock II: It's been 213 days since Bobby Menard announced plans to create "Artists Valley". So far all he has done is lie through his teeth.

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Bobby shares this:



One suspects that when there's MooseHeads involved Bobby whips out his vaccination card and says some magic freeman words to absolve himself of all guilt.

After all, this is the guy who resurrected his SIN years after he told the faithful he had ditched it.

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Dope Clock II: It's been 213 days since Bobby Menard announced plans to create "Artists Valley". So far all he has done is lie through his teeth.
Reading that Spaghetti logic is making me yearn for a pasta lunch. Maybe his writing is good for something after all.
I wonder if he ever reads his own words and then tries to construct a counter argument? In university in a writing class, we were told to do that in order to strengthen our case and head off criticisms. I guess they didn't teach that while Bobby was studying law in someone's basement.
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Reading that Spaghetti logic is making me yearn for a pasta lunch. Maybe his writing is good for something after all.
I wonder if he ever reads his own words and then tries to construct a counter argument? In university in a writing class, we were told to do that in order to strengthen our case and head off criticisms. I guess they didn't teach that while Bobby was studying law in someone's basement.
Yeah, if he was really talking about how public health officials make decisions he wouldn't share such ignorant posts as that one.

Bobby is not trying to make sense or pass on wisdom and knowledge. He's about ratcheting up the anti-vaxxer's sense of victimhood. It's the same manipulative line he used with freeman wannas.

He's selfish man-child who doesn't have anymore concern about how the virus might spread in a "high touch" place like a restaurant than he cares about whether his "clients" kill puppies or rip off merchants.

Just as long as he gets his fee.

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