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Old 20th December 2021, 08:16 PM   #121
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That's what I said. Excess mortality is a real thing since the "vaccination" campaign started. Like in many other countries, tendency goes to that the higher "vaccination" rates, the higher the excess mortality is. Of course pure coincidence like everything.
wow... your reality denial is irritating.
excess mortality is a real thing since vaccination campaign started?

What sort of bollocks is that?

just check the numbers of excess deaths for Brazil in 2020 and 2021 and COMPARE the time of deaths with Official Covid death statistics and then to VACCINATION.
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Old 20th December 2021, 08:16 PM   #122
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Originally Posted by AcesHigh View Post
the Roman salute is not Roman at all. It was invented in the 18th century.

There is no ancient roman description of it and all ancient artwork displaying salute gestures, show nothing like it.
The closest depiction we have is the adlocutio, which was basically used to indicate "I'm speaking now, you should pay attention".
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Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
There is no "original" White Rose, unless you're talking about the anti-Nazi resistance group during the War, which bears very little resemblance to the current incarnation. If you're with White Rose today, then you are a member of an antisemitic holocaust denying white supremacist group. Perhaps you might want to reconsider that.

Again, I never heard of your strange astroturf gorup. Must try to carry "White Supremecist" connotations. It is not known here and I don't give a damn.
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Old 20th December 2021, 08:22 PM   #124
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I am starting to doubt that you are the smartest person I'm likely to ever encounter.
Well, from where did you got that notion in the first place?
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Originally Posted by Childlike Empress View Post
Of course there is. Read their pamphlets. First paragraph:
They were talking about this on the latest episode of the Skeptics Guide to the Universe podcast. It's called the fallacy of composition. This one small part is true and good, therefore all of it is true and good (I don't grant that premise, by the way). Maybe their first pamphlet is not overtly antisemitic. But the group currently identifying itself as the White Rose is strongly associated with antisemitic holocaust deniers and white supremacists. I posted the evidence of this. And their current activities involve spreading lies and propaganda about COVID - exactly the same lies and propaganda that you repeat.

Repeating the White Rose propaganda associates you with neo-Nazis, Childlike Empress, whether you like it or not.

In other news, its just been announced that I will be under an indoor mask mandate due to Omicron. I will happily comply, because White Rose spreads lies.
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Originally Posted by Childlike Empress View Post
Again, I never heard of your strange astroturf gorup. Must try to carry "White Supremecist" connotations. It is not known here and I don't give a damn.
I will not hold your lack of knowledge against you. You've heard now. White Rose is not a name you want to be linked to.
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What I've heard about, though, is the Merkel Youth with its slogan "Geil Merkel!". I doubt there will that much enthusiasm for Olaf Scholz.

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Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
I will not hold your lack of knowledge against you. You've heard now. White Rose is not a name you want to be linked to.

White Rose will always be a name I want to be linked to. Regardless of the nonsense you read in "Skeptic" magazine about a group that doesn't exist here. While I have studied all the pamphlets of the original White Rose.
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arthwollipot, you obviously don't even know who the original White Rose were. "Their first pamphlet maybe wasn't antosemitic"? LOLWUT. Here, read up a bit:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_and_Sophie_Scholl
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Old 20th December 2021, 08:48 PM   #130
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Originally Posted by AcesHigh View Post
wow... your reality denial is irritating.
excess mortality is a real thing since vaccination campaign started?

What sort of bollocks is that?

just check the numbers of excess deaths for Brazil in 2020 and 2021 and COMPARE the time of deaths with Official Covid death statistics and then to VACCINATION.
Not to mention that records of mortality rates, at least in the US, have been collected by the CDC since 1946, and prior to that, the data was collected by the CDC's predecessor, OMCWA (the Office of Malaria Control in War Areas) that was formed in 1942, but collected historical data going back to 1933.

In short, for the last 88 years, there has been data available for the CDC and its predecessor to accurately predict the next year's week by week death rates.
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White Rose will always be a name I want to be linked to. Regardless of the nonsense you read in "Skeptic" magazine about a group that doesn't exist here. While I have studied all the pamphlets of the original White Rose.
And the original swastika was a Hindu symbol of peace. What the White Rose was originally is irrelevant today as the name has now been appropriated. I suggest you to join the White Rose channel on Telegram and see if you still want to be linked to that name.
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And the original swastika was a Hindu symbol of peace. What the White Rose was originally is irrelevant today as the name has now been appropriated. I suggest you to join the White Rose channel on Telegram and see if you still want to be linked to that name.

Again, this group ypu've read about doesn't exist here. When I haven't heard about it, nobody here has. It smells like astroturf (I didn't bother to read your article) and will never be able to smear the name of White Rose. Completely irrelevant.
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Old 20th December 2021, 09:35 PM   #133
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You are either deliberately ignorant or intentionally obfuscating, CE.

It's a truly terrible thing to use the memory of The White Rose for such a disgusting purpose.
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Old 20th December 2021, 10:20 PM   #134
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Originally Posted by Childlike Empress View Post
Again, this group ypu've read about doesn't exist here.
It exists on the internet, which means it exists all over the world.

Originally Posted by Childlike Empress View Post
When I haven't heard about it, nobody here has.
Oh, the humility!

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It smells like astroturf (I didn't bother to read your article)..
Of course you didn't. That's a shame, because it would tell you a lot about the neo-Nazis who have appropriated a once-respectable name.

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...and will never be able to smear the name of White Rose. Completely irrelevant.
The name of the White Rose has already been smeared, whether you like it or not. A lot of people aren't happy about it.

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Vile stickers from a group comparing themselves to one of history’s most famous resistance movements have appeared at pedestrian crossings in Melbourne – stoking outrage from the Jewish community.

The stickers, one of which was posted at Gilbert Road, Reservoir, shows images of the Star of David, Adolf Hitler and a syringe.

“What’s the difference between vaccine papers and a yellow star?” it reads. “82 years. We are increasingly living under National Socialism. Stop medical apartheid.”

The group posting the stickers appear to compare themselves to the White Rose movement against the Nazis in the 1940s.

The White Rose was a nonviolent, intellectual resistance group in Nazi Germany led by a group of five students and a professor from the University of Munich, including Hans Scholl, Alexander Schmorell, Willi Graf, Christopher Probst, and Sophie Scholl.

The group conducted an anonymous leaflet and graffiti campaign that called for active opposition to the Nazi regime.

Their activities started in Munich on June 27, 1942, and ended with the arrest of the core group by the Gestapo on February 18, 1943.

They, as well as other members and supporters of the group who carried on distributing the pamphlets, faced show trials by the Nazi People’s Court, and many of them were sentenced to death or imprisonment.

Dr Dvir Abramovich, Chairman of the Anti-Defamation Commission, told news.com.au the stickers posted by the group in Melbourne comparing themselves to the White Rose were “hateful and cruel”.

“Sophie Scholl and her brother Hans are probably turning in their grave at the sight of this moral outrage,” he said.

“To hijack the Holocaust, in which six million Jews and millions of others were slaughtered and burned, to suggest that Hitler’s Final Solution is comparable to lifesaving vaccination efforts is to trivialise and downplay humanity’s most immense tragedy.
You should be angry too. You should be furious.
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The problem is there really are people who believe that expecting them to take every reasonable precaution during a pandemic is equivalent to the Holocaust. They may be functionally insane, but there are enough of them in some countries to do real harm.
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You should be angry too. You should be furious.

Nope, I shouldn't. Nobody xares about some stickers in Melbourne. You just helped to make this alleged group more prominent. Maybe I should be angry about that.

jimbob's three sleazy Brit-Nazis, now your fake White Rose, what's next? Atomwaffen Division?

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Nope, I shouldn't. Nobody xares about some stickers in Melbourne. You just helped to make this alleged group more prominent. Maybe I should be angry about that.

jimbob's three sleazy Brit-Nazis, now your fake White Rose, what's next? Atomwaffen Division?

See, if you'd actually read the article I posted, you'd know that it's not just a few wankers in Melbourne. The author of the article (two articles, actually) is based in Liverpool, UK, and points out that these stickers have been showing up all across the world.

Just go read the damn article, okay? Otherwise you're just compounding your profound ignorance.

Oh, and there's a post of yours that I haven't responded to. Hang on.
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arthwollipot, you obviously don't even know who the original White Rose were. "Their first pamphlet maybe wasn't antosemitic"? LOLWUT. Here, read up a bit:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_and_Sophie_Scholl
Yeah, when you said that you were with the original White Rose, I didn't take that to mean that you were 90 years old. The original White Rose was broken up by the Gestapo in 1943, and many of its members executed. How did you escape?
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This plan may sound appealing to people who know a little about the immune system, but the drawbacks are clear to people who know a lot about the immune system and also to people who don't know anything about it.
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And how many members of this atrocity that steals its glory got executed?
Let me know when that number goes above zero, and you might have a point.
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Yeah, when you said that you were with the original White Rose, I didn't take that to mean that you were 90 years old. The original White Rose was broken up by the Gestapo in 1943, and many of its members executed. How did you escape?
I think CE is claiming to be a descendant of the House of York and is trying, in league with David Icke, to lay claim to the UK-ian throne, which has been stolen by shape-shifting lizards, who are infecting us with flu, then injecting us with 5G mind-control nanobots with the aid of Cobra...

That is it, isn't it? It makes as much sense as a lot of this thread.
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It exists on the internet, which means it exists all over the world.

Oh, the humility!

Of course you didn't. That's a shame, because it would tell you a lot about the neo-Nazis who have appropriated a once-respectable name.

The name of the White Rose has already been smeared, whether you like it or not. A lot of people aren't happy about it.

You should be angry too. You should be furious.
Far from being angry, CE is over the moon. He's revelling in the perversity of finally revealing that he is seated not just at the right hand of Hitler, he's sat at the far right.
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A question for anyone. Is CE claiming that the COVID-19 virus and its variants don't actually exist? If so, has this already been hashed out?
CTists like our colleague tend to foist a smorgasbord of imprecise theories, often internally contradictory, and they hide behind the imprecision. Extracting clear, precise claims from CTists is like extracting teeth.
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CTists like our colleague tend to foist a smorgasbord of imprecise theories, often internally contradictory, and they hide behind the imprecision. Extracting clear, precise claims from CTists is like extracting teeth.
...via the far end of the GI tract.
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https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/immunity.png

This plan may sound appealing to people who know a little about the immune system, but the drawbacks are clear to people who know a lot about the immune system and also to people who don't know anything about it.
A recent Sam Harris comment to his former friend Bret Weinstein went along the lines of: "Getting antibodies from catching the virus isn't a plan for dealing with Covid. It's just catching Covid."
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I'm with the original White Rose ...
No, you're not.

All you are is a laughable wannabe with too much time on her hand and too little brain in her head.

Just as pathetic as this clown
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I'm with the original White Rose and have never heard of your astroturf fringe group. Maybe read their pamphlets, they say a lot about the present.
Really?
They oppose totalitarianism in general, and Hitler in particular.
Hitler is no longer in charge of Germany, and Germany is not a dictatorship.
Your idol Putin, on the other hand, is to all intents and purposes an autocrat, yet you support him wholeheartedly. For that matter, I have not seen you criticise China, or North Korea, and you appear to support Assad, another vicious dictator.
The original White Rose advocated passive resistance.
This seems at odds with your calls for violent revolution.
The original White Rose was about being a Christian and a member of Western civilisation.
You display nothing but scorn for the West, and you have not said anything about being a Christian. Are you a Christian, and do you consider yourself a member of Western civilisation?
A further point: another of your heroes, David Icke, whom you have endorsed as a source of reliable information, was barred from entering Australia because of his antisemitism and Holocaust denial.
The original White Rose was well aware of the atrocities being perpetrated against the Jews, as your link shows. What, exactly, is your stance on the Holocaust and on Icke's Holocaust denial?
Your advocation of the original White Rose group, then, appears to be nothing more than hypocritical posturing, presumably at the instigation of your Kremlin masters. Do please post a considered, grown-up response if you disagree: it would make a pleasant change from your usual output.
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You people are so pathetic.

Here's s little collection of yesterday's marches in Germany:

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I hope that all of those poor misguided souls and their loved ones are alive to march again in the future.
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Originally Posted by carlitos View Post
I hope that all of those poor misguided souls and their loved ones are alive to march again in the future.
I don't. I hope a significant portion of them catch COVID and die, quite frankly. Their right to be morons ends at the point where they perpetuate a disease that I am seriously vulnerable to.

What's more I hope that those who do not die all have a loved one who dies, slowly. I hope that they finally realise that their own selfish idiocy has killed a loved one so they can wallow in their own misery. **** these people.

ETA: I hope this because unlike people who say, do heroin, or drink themselves to death or do other idiotic things with a good likelihood of killing themselves, these people can actively hurt others. I've seen someone I know slip away on a ventilator from COVID. A reasonably healthy guy in his 50s too. I know that if I catch a serious strain of Covid I will quite likely die because of my multiple heart defects.

These wastes of oxygen aren't just endangering themselves but are endangering me and people like me. Quite honestly I will not shed a tear for any of these idiots who dies. In fact I hope they go nice and slow so they can realise just how ******* stupid they are and just how much danger they have put those around them in. I hope the ones who stay healthy get to watch dad or mum or a sibling slip away, hooked up to machines, unable to communicate and I hope it makes them realise that they aren't brave free thinkers, just pathetic idiots whose inflated sense of self worth and monumental arrogance was only eclipsed by their practiced ignorance of reality.

JFK and 9/11 nuttery isn't dangerous to people outside the sphere of influence of the cretins who fall for it. Anti vax anti lockdown idiocy is actively dangerous. I hope these people live just long enough to realise just how big a **** up they are. Nothing of value would be lost.
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Old 21st December 2021, 10:27 AM   #152
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Originally Posted by varwoche View Post
CTists like our colleague tend to foist a smorgasbord of imprecise theories, often internally contradictory, and they hide behind the imprecision. Extracting clear, precise claims from CTists is like extracting teeth.
And it doesn't help when they constantly shill for Putin, who is an idiot.

Covid denial and anti-vaxx is as ridiculous and harmful as a CT can get these days.
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Old 21st December 2021, 10:53 AM   #153
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Originally Posted by MarkCorrigan View Post
I don't. I hope a significant portion of them catch COVID and die, quite frankly. Their right to be morons ends at the point where they perpetuate a disease that I am seriously vulnerable to.

What's more I hope that those who do not die all have a loved one who dies, slowly. I hope that they finally realise that their own selfish idiocy has killed a loved one so they can wallow in their own misery. **** these people.

ETA: I hope this because unlike people who say, do heroin, or drink themselves to death or do other idiotic things with a good likelihood of killing themselves, these people can actively hurt others. I've seen someone I know slip away on a ventilator from COVID. A reasonably healthy guy in his 50s too. I know that if I catch a serious strain of Covid I will quite likely die because of my multiple heart defects.

These wastes of oxygen aren't just endangering themselves but are endangering me and people like me. Quite honestly I will not shed a tear for any of these idiots who dies. In fact I hope they go nice and slow so they can realise just how ******* stupid they are and just how much danger they have put those around them in. I hope the ones who stay healthy get to watch dad or mum or a sibling slip away, hooked up to machines, unable to communicate and I hope it makes them realise that they aren't brave free thinkers, just pathetic idiots whose inflated sense of self worth and monumental arrogance was only eclipsed by their practiced ignorance of reality.

JFK and 9/11 nuttery isn't dangerous to people outside the sphere of influence of the cretins who fall for it. Anti vax anti lockdown idiocy is actively dangerous. I hope these people live just long enough to realise just how big a **** up they are. Nothing of value would be lost.
I understand your anger and frustration, but dragging yourself down to the level of CE and those like him is neither kind nor productive.
Let them wallow in their moral cesspits: compassion and positivity are a better path.
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Old 21st December 2021, 10:57 AM   #154
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CE, seeing as you're the smartest person I've ever encountered, could you answer a question that the other COVID conspiracy theorists on this forum haven't seemed to be able to answer?

My question is this: is the world's medical scientific community fully committed to maintaining the hoax en masse, or are they all just that stupidly inept at their jobs that they can't see what you can so easily discern?

I mean to my lowly cognitive facilities both of those scenarios seem incredibly stupid, just as they do with other scientific professional communities involved with the subjects of other conspiracy theories, such as the moon landings hoax, or flat earth. But if someone of your prodigious intellectual capacity thinks otherwise, then perhaps I should rethink my positions on not only the COVID-19 pandemic, but on the very nature of the cosmos as well.
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Again though, it's actively dangerous. Why should I have compassion for people who go around doing something which is likely to deliberately spread a dangerous disease?

I'm sick of lockdowns too. I'm sick of the idea that we might be confined to the house once again. I'm sick of restrictions on movement, on sports events with no crowds, of restaurants and bars having to be propped up by the state because people aren't allowed to go eat or drink out. I'm sick of wearing a mask. I'm sick of social distancing. I'm sick and tired of the constant, draining news reports about yet another variant with daily death tolls. I'm sick of having to take tests that involve a stick being shoved up my nose. I'm sick of all of this horrible depressing **** we have had to live with for 2 years and counting. I hate the idea of seeing my family over Xmas being conditinal on negative tests. I'm fed up with restrictive measures being put in place even if they are for my protection.

But I don't think that my annoyance and the fact I'm fed up trumps other people's lives and their right to not get infected with a disease that might kill them and even if it doesn't could have serious long term-permanent health effects on them.

People being bored and grumpy doesn't trump my right to not get a disease which would very likely kill me. I've said before and will say again, I think that anti vaxxers who come into contact with people who subsequently die of whatever the preventable deadly disease du jour is should be charged with their murder. That is to say, if Sloane and Tarquin Idiot decide not to vaccinate little Johnny and Little Johnny infects his class with measles and a kid dies, they should be charged with murder.

These people are either criminally stupid or don't care about others. Either way, **** them.
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Old 21st December 2021, 11:07 AM   #156
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Originally Posted by eerok View Post
Putin, who is an idiot.
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I would agree but unfortunately Putin isn't an idiot he is quite the intelligent Machiavellian plotter and I see a future filled with death, murder, war and chaos all coming from him against those who he sees as his enemies.
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And it doesn't help when they constantly shill for Putin, who is an idiot.

Covid denial and anti-vaxx is as ridiculous and harmful as a CT can get these days.
Some years ago, someone asked me why I was bothering to engage with flat earthers as, stupid as they obviously are, they are essentially harmless cranks. I replied that the axis of my interest was less about their arguments than it was about their psychology. I said that they were samples of the same psychology that led people to much more objectively harmful beliefs like crystal healing or anti vaccination crusades.

One thing I've noticed to be nearly universal among all manner of conspiracy theory cranks from truthers to flat earthers - they almost always think that they are, by far, the smartest person in the room.
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Originally Posted by Foster Zygote View Post
Some years ago, someone asked me why I was bothering to engage with flat earthers as, stupid as they obviously are, they are essentially harmless cranks. I replied that the axis of my interest was less about their arguments than it was about their psychology. I said that they were samples of the same psychology that led people to much more objectively harmful beliefs like crystal healing or anti vaccination crusades.

One thing I've noticed to be nearly universal among all manner of conspiracy theory cranks from truthers to flat earthers - they almost always think that they are, by far, the smartest person in the room.
I would categorise crystal healing woo and anti vax as being two very different levels in general. People who believe crystal healing woo are only likely to kill themselves or those whom they convince that their brand of idiocy is correct. Anti-vaxxers have the potential to kill way more, including people who know that they're full of ****. That to me is a big difference. Sure, some crystal healing nutcase can kill people they manage to convince to give up on real medicine and sleep with a rock under their pillow, but that act can't also wipe out their mark's family. Anti-vax can.
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Originally Posted by MarkCorrigan View Post
Again though, it's actively dangerous. Why should I have compassion for people who go around doing something which is likely to deliberately spread a dangerous disease?

I'm sick of lockdowns too. I'm sick of the idea that we might be confined to the house once again. I'm sick of restrictions on movement, on sports events with no crowds, of restaurants and bars having to be propped up by the state because people aren't allowed to go eat or drink out. I'm sick of wearing a mask. I'm sick of social distancing. I'm sick and tired of the constant, draining news reports about yet another variant with daily death tolls. I'm sick of having to take tests that involve a stick being shoved up my nose. I'm sick of all of this horrible depressing **** we have had to live with for 2 years and counting. I hate the idea of seeing my family over Xmas being conditinal on negative tests. I'm fed up with restrictive measures being put in place even if they are for my protection.

But I don't think that my annoyance and the fact I'm fed up trumps other people's lives and their right to not get infected with a disease that might kill them and even if it doesn't could have serious long term-permanent health effects on them.

People being bored and grumpy doesn't trump my right to not get a disease which would very likely kill me. I've said before and will say again, I think that anti vaxxers who come into contact with people who subsequently die of whatever the preventable deadly disease du jour is should be charged with their murder. That is to say, if Sloane and Tarquin Idiot decide not to vaccinate little Johnny and Little Johnny infects his class with measles and a kid dies, they should be charged with murder.

These people are either criminally stupid or don't care about others. Either way, **** them.
Here's an "Amen! from the choir! Being in a similar, albeit not so serious, position with regard to personal health...

I've just stopped ranting after listening to some selfish, entitled, nowhere near as bright as he seems to think he is berk on PM petulantly "explaining" why he won't get vaccinated and thinks his mother is being tight with him over Christmas as another family member is recovering from significant illness...Wants a consequence free life, which is not something available to many of us.
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Originally Posted by MarkCorrigan View Post
I would categorise crystal healing woo and anti vax as being two very different levels in general. People who believe crystal healing woo are only likely to kill themselves or those whom they convince that their brand of idiocy is correct. Anti-vaxxers have the potential to kill way more, including people who know that they're full of ****. That to me is a big difference. Sure, some crystal healing nutcase can kill people they manage to convince to give up on real medicine and sleep with a rock under their pillow, but that act can't also wipe out their mark's family. Anti-vax can.
Unfortunately, there is now quite a lot of overlap happening between the new age healing community and harmful anti-vaccine paranoia.

The QAnon people in Dallas are supposedly getting magic "Med Beds" to treat themselves for Covid and other ailments.
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