Building My Pyramid

billnreno

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Dear Members:
I need to make myself clear on what I mean by ‘building’ this pyramid, it will be like a mental challenge (Hypothetical). This may be your only chance to see the building of a pyramid from the top down and the inside out! If you go to my website you can see the details on how it will be done. We have four Crafts that you can choose from, Masons, Miners, Extras and Laborers. Go to one of these pages and you will be counted as one of these workers. Ask your friends to join in if you wish. We have an Administrators Page where you can visit (daily, weekly or whenever) to see our progress, changes or any other news about our work. I will post messages there, and you can contact me and ask questions. This should be very interesting and a lot of fun! The Work Project starts 01/01/2008 … logon to helpfortheworld.com
To the non-believers, as an old saying goes: If you think this can’t be done, just hide and watch!
Regards: William C. Mayfield, Reno, Nevada, USA
 
I checked the web site, but I still don't understand what you are doing or claiming. Maybe you could explain some more?

(By the way, your web site doesn't display well on a mac using firefox. The text overwrites itself.)
 
I think maybe the site would benefit from a simple explanation of what's going on - I'm thinking, what has the UN got to do with building a pyramid, and what have either of these to do with claiming to be able to make it rain in dry places? Is it a real pyramid?

Maybe the answers are in the site somewhere, but it would be nicer and more enticing if there was a short summary of the deal.
 
Dear Members
This is billnreno...All of the programs on the website....helpfortheworld are seperate entities. The one that I am writing about is Our Pyramid on the menu, it's a seperate program. Yes, I have posted it on as many forums as I can. I am very serious about hypothetically building it. For 5000 years it has been a mystery. My theory is not a solution of how they were built. I think that if I can get enough people watching and helping, that this can be done! It should be very interesting to the serious members, and it will be a lot of fun...Let me know if you are interested...Thanks for your interest and support...Bill
 
Hi Bill, and welcome to the forums.

It may be me being slow, but I'm not sure I understand what you mean by 'hypothetically building' a pyramid... I thought perhaps you meant simulating the way you thought they might have been constructed, but then you directly stated that this wasn't what you were about.

Would you be able to post a short introduction to your aims?
 
Bah! Pyramids are a bore. I want to see someone rebuild the Colosseum from
scratch, or the assault-ramp at Masada.
 
Dear Nucular
I may not have phrased the building of this pyramid correctly. what I am trying to do is show that a pyramid of khufu size can be constructed. I said that with the technology, material, tools and labor this is how I would have built it at that point in time. Or maybe today. The pyramid building program covers everything pertaining to this job. On my webSite click 'Our Pyramid' on the menu and you can see it all. This will be very interesting and a lot of fun! Even for an 80 year old codger like me. Regards: Bill
 
Little 10 Toes said:
So you're wanting to show something that has already been built, can be built?
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From what I can gather, this is sort of a work force simulation. People join the web site, and select a trade. The person running the simulation posts status, problem areas, work schedules, etc. Maybe it requires action to be taken on the part of members: hard to say.

In the end (once all the daily tasks get marked someday as complete), that simulates the work done to have created the pyramid.
 
I'm still not quite sure what this project is supposed to do, but I think if you follow the links provided in the page, you'll get to this one, which involves a very involved theory about the architectural message of the pyramids which, to put it kindly, I suspect will not be very convincing to those of a skeptical turn of mind.

One important note for bill: your web page comes out scrambled in Firefox, with images superimposed on the text. It works in IE, but you might want to see if you can straighten out the code for other browsers.
 
bruto said:
One important note for bill: your web page comes out scrambled in Firefox, with images superimposed on the text. It works in IE, but you might want to see if you can straighten out the code for other browsers.
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I can recommend IE Tab for sites that don't render properly in Firefox. With one click a site can be viewed as IE but within Firefox.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1419
 
Dear Denver et al:
You have it all straight except nobody has to become a member or do anything, but if they come to one of the named pages my hit counter will keep a total, which I will use as the number of workers. Apparently you folks are not 'dyed in the wool' Pyramid Builders. Some of them spend their entire lives trying to figure out how they got those huge stones to the top (481 Feet) Maybe Piscivore was there with his 'anti-gravity' platform and delivered them? I am using an IE browser and the resolution is set at 800x600, I will check out the link that Angular sent. Anyhow I am giving up on you guys, I have more important thing to do, I am 80 years old and time is going fast. If you see any Pyramid Builders, talk to them. Thanks for your comments and support...Regards: Bill
 
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Dear Denver et al:
You have it all straight except nobody has to become a member or do anything, but if they come to one of the named pages my hit counter will keep a total, which I will use as the number of workers. Apparently you folks are not 'dyed in the wool' Pyramid Builders. Some of them spend their entire lives trying to figure out how they got those huge stones to the top (481 Feet) Maybe Piscivore was there with his 'anti-gravity' platform and delivered them? I am using an IE browser and the resolution is set at 800x600, I will check out the link that Angular sent. Anyhow I am giving up on you guys, I have more important thing to do, I am 80 years old and time is going fast. If you see any Pyramid Builders, talk to them. Thanks for your comments and support...Regards: Bill
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First, you get the base of the pyramid arranged in a big square. Then you mound dirt to the height of those blocks at a gentle slope. Pull up more blocks and arrange them. Mound more dirt on top of the old dirt at a slope, pull up more blocks, etc.

When you're all done, remove the dirt.

I'm not saying that's the way they did it, but it's not really that complicated and I don't see how that turns into a lifelong puzzle.


Well, good luck with your project. Frankly it sounds like a lot of back breaking labor and finding volunteers is quite the task.
 
Dear Members
He's back...To those of you that use other than an IE browser, I have installed some code that may help. One is re-direct per browser and the other is re-direct per resolution. If any of you return to my site, I would appreciate any info on this.
I am 80 years old, so I may be a little forgetful...But I forgot to mention that I am starting the building of my Pyramid on the TOP of a MOUNTAIN! Care to go see?...Bill
 
If this is indeed some kind of construction simulation, such an idea has some interesting possibilities.

Imagine this done in 3D (maybe something like Second Life / Playstation Home) with thousands of people around the world clubbing together to form a vast virtual workforce, with the goal of building a digital pyramid from thousands of 3D blocks and virtual tools (rollers, levers, blocks & tackle, etc) that operate in a physically realistic manner. It could be incredibly educative. Then again, if completely realistic, it would take decades to complete :rolleyes:
 
Uncle Feedle said:
If this is indeed some kind of construction simulation, such an idea has some interesting possibilities.

Imagine this done in 3D (maybe something like Second Life / Playstation Home) with thousands of people around the world clubbing together to form a vast virtual workforce, with the goal of building a digital pyramid from thousands of 3D blocks and virtual tools (rollers, levers, blocks & tackle, etc) that operate in a physically realistic manner. It could be incredibly educative. Then again, if completely realistic, it would take decades to complete :rolleyes:
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Of course in the real world it takes 24 hours for one day. In the simulation time could go much faster. So a decade in the simulation could take a year in the real world.

There are however many simulation games on the net. Example The sims
 
Dear Members
(Revised: 12/18/2007)
I need to make myself clear on what I mean by ‘building’ this pyramid, it could be like make believe. This may be your only chance to see the building of a pyramid from the top down and the inside out, starting on a Mountain top. Theoretically, the mountain disappeared and there stands Our Pyramid. If you go to my website, (click Our Pyramid on the Directory) you can see the details on how it will be done. We have four Crafts that you can work with, Masons, Miners, Extras and Laborers. Go to one of these pages and you will be counted as one of these workers. Ask your friends to join in if you wish. We have an Administrator Page where you can visit (daily, weekly or whenever) to see our progress, changes or any other news about our work. I will post messages there, and you can contact me and ask questions. This should be very interesting and a lot of fun! (No cost, no work) Project starts, (Extras and Laborers: 12/26/2007) others, 01/01/2008. Be a Sidewalk Superintendent!

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To the non-believers, as an old saying goes: If you think this can’t be done, just hide and watch!
Regards: William C. Mayfield, Reno, Nevada, USA

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bruto said:
I'm still not quite sure what this project is supposed to do, but I think if you follow the links provided in the page, you'll get to this one, which involves a very involved theory about the architectural message of the pyramids which, to put it kindly, I suspect will not be very convincing to those of a skeptical turn of mind.
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Life is too short to read that entire page. I read enough of it to recognize the outlandishness of many of the claims. I suspect that if I ran it through the kook index, the score would be in the mid twenties.

As for billnreno, aren't there rules against spam? If this entire thread is devoted to him simply asking people to log on to his website, then shouldn't he receive at least a warning?
 
Ladewig said:
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As for bullring, aren't there rules against spam? If this entire thread is devoted to him simply asking people to log on to his website, then shouldn't he receive at least a warning?
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Only if he asks for money. But he wants workers. How much money is he willing to pay us to build the 3D triangle ?:D
 
I wouldn't count it as spam if the purpose is just recreational, or intellectual, but I still wish he could explain himself a little more clearly. I'm still not sure what his intention here is, how it is to be implemented, and why individuals need to participate. I am reluctant to sign up for something so vaguely expressed and explained.
 
Bill, let me know if I've got this right -

You start at the top of a mountain and build a pyramid, from the top down, by gradually removing bits of the mountain and replacing them with bits of pyramid?
 
Snow said:
Bill, let me know if I've got this right -

You start at the top of a mountain and build a pyramid, from the top down, by gradually removing bits of the mountain and replacing them with bits of pyramid?
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That's what it sounds like to me too. "Top down and inside out..."

I don't want to be the sucker who gets saddled with putting down the center block on the bottom layer...
 
That site it still mighty garbled when I view in Firefox.. at least the "our pyramid" link is. But I do get this:
Our expedition begins with a remark from Herodotus, 4th Century, BCE Greek historian. Herodotus was one of the earliest Western sources to report on the pyramids and culture of Egypt. (Among some, Herodotus' accounts earned him the title, "Father of History," among others the title "Father of Liars," as he made many curious and whimsical statements.) He reports that Egyptian temple priests told him that the top portion of the Pyramid was built first, then the middle and lastly the part closest to the ground
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From the top-down? I think Bill is confused. It is known that the glass-like limestone face put on some of the pyramids was installed from the top down on top of the pyramid structure. Perhaps thats whats confusing him. The structures themselves were obviously not built by carving away a mountain... thats just crazy.
 
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Maybe he's talking about a pyramid scheme! At least top-down would make sense then...
 
Dear Snow,
You Have hit the nail right on the head!! This is exactly what I have been trying to say all along. The Egyptologists have been trying for hundreds of years to figure out how the pyramids were built and how those huge block were raised to the top.(481 feet). My way, they are always on level ground and can SLIDE them into place. I didn't realize this would be so complicated. If you or sombody had the time to just look at everything about the pyramid, it woulld be explained. I have spent over a year making this WebSite and I can't write it all here! Thanks for your help and stay in touch. To those interested, My webSite has NO ads, I am not asking for any donations or anything else! I just thought it would be fun and interesting for you...Sorry if I got you confused. Regards: Bill
 
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It's an interesting idea, for sure, but aside from the fact that it requires a mountain in the first place, it also requires that that mountain be removed entirely, and not just from right around the pyramid, but entirely - however big it is, without a trace. Not only that, but if the rock for the pyramid is quarried elsewhere, they still have to haul it up a mountain. That's a lot of dirt to move, and woe to them if they find a huge boulder or ledge on the way down, unless it's useable for building. If they were willing to move that much dirt and drag the stones up a slope, they could have built on a plain, and moved the dirt in to make ramps. It would have taken less dirt, and it would explain why the pyramids are not nestled in between hills.

I also suspect that there are some engineering issues to building top down, in terms of footings and access to the interior of the structure, which have not been addressed, but I think they are secondary to the basic question of "where's the mountain?"
 
TX50 said:
Bah! Pyramids are a bore. I want to see someone rebuild the Colosseum from
scratch, or the assault-ramp at Masada.
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I agree, pyramids are a bore................

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......................Tesseract, anyone? :D
 
Dear Members,
I have never joined a forum before, I didn't know what they were for. But after a week with you folks I can see...It's a place for you to come, to belittle and make fun of each other. I don't need this. So, I will unsubcribe as soon as I can find the unsubcribe button! Regards: Bill
 
billnreno said:
Dear Members,
I have never joined a forum before, I didn't know what they were for. But after a week with you folks I can see...It's a place for you to come, to belittle and make fun of each other. I don't need this. So, I will unsubcribe as soon as I can find the unsubcribe button! Regards: Bill
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I'd rather you stuck around to try to address the questions. I think your plan has some serious problems, but I'm certainly willing to hear any arguments. On the other hand, if you don't want arguments, you're definitely in the wrong place. As far as I'm concerned, ideas are meant to be argued.
 
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