So truthers....what's the game plan for 2008?

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The Judy Wood fiasco, AE911 parroting the idiocy of a theology prof, no one caring about the "peer-review" done by Jones, being reduced to heckling people, a tiny crowd of kooks at GZ on 9/11/07, the flop of LCFC....

Yeah, 2007 was a pretty crappy year if you're a 9/11 truther. :D

So, LastChild, Swing Dangler, RedIbis, realcddeal, Max, and any other "truthseekers" reading this: what are your plans for 2008? What's gonna finally get that new investigation rolling?

Do you hope to just keep doing what you're doing now in the hope that it suddenly starts working for some reason?

I don't mean to scare you guys, but you are kinda running out of time. In January 2009 the real 911 perps will be out of power and the world's attention and hatred will be directed elsewhere. In other words, your movement's appeal (such as it is) will fall to pretty much zero in just over a year.

So tell us....do any of you plan on doing something productive for a change? Will you finally seek a peer-review to legitimize your "research?"

Please give me some indication that this battle isn't over.
 
Camp outside the White House until a new investigation is ordered!

Wait...that was supposed to be the plan for 2007. Okay:

1) Make idiotic claims
2) Ask questions
3) Ignore answers
4) Repeat # 1
5)?
6) Profit!
 
Prove 9/11 was an inside job using spam email.
 
Gravy said:
Camp outside the White House until a new investigation is ordered!

Wait...that was supposed to be the plan for 2007. Okay:

1) Make idiotic claims
2) Ask questions
3) Ignore answers
4) Repeat # 1
5)?
6) Profit!
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9/11 Truth Movement Schedule of Events for 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008
 
I thought 2007 was Max Photon Heaven. And 2008 looks divine - 2009 - great.

CHF said:
The Judy Wood fiasco, AE911 parroting the idiocy of a theology prof, no one caring about the "peer-review" done by Jones, being reduced to heckling people, a tiny crowd of kooks at GZ on 9/11/07, the flop of LCFC....

Yeah, 2007 was a pretty crappy year if you're a 9/11 truther. :D

So, LastChild, Swing Dangler, RedIbis, realcddeal, Max, and any other "truthseekers" reading this: what are your plans for 2008? What's gonna finally get that new investigation rolling?

Do you hope to just keep doing what you're doing now in the hope that it suddenly starts working for some reason?

I don't mean to scare you guys, but you are kinda running out of time. In January 2009 the real 911 perps will be out of power and the world's attention and hatred will be directed elsewhere. In other words, your movement's appeal (such as it is) will fall to pretty much zero in just over a year.

So tell us....do any of you plan on doing something productive for a change? Will you finally seek a peer-review to legitimize your "research?"

Please give me some indication that this battle isn't over.
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As Commander of the Fourth Infantile Division, as I reflect on my 2007 campaign, I am pleased.

In a mere 11 months, I have developed a WTC collapse initiation model that - I believe - has the greatest evidentiary harmony of all current models - including NISTs.

NIST, Bazant, Blanchard - all the experts - have only envisioned demolition by cutting.

You sheep have followed them, and have spent 2007 shadow boxing with demolition by cutting. What a bunch of idiots.

The WTC towers collapsed because fires heat-weakened steel.

The question for 2008 is:

Were the WTC fires arson? Did incendiaries stoke the fires, and heat the steel?

The evidence of the fires is beautifully cataloged in NCSTARS 1-5A.

In 1-5A/9/C (observations of the facade of WTC2 from impact to collapse initiation), there are numerous bizarre phenomena and fire behaviors that are well described but poorly explained by NIST.

I claim that arson (to augment the fires induced by the jets) has greater consistency - better fit - with these anomalous phenomena than does the NIST model.

Like it or not, the battle has moved to cutting to heat-weakening, and the battle line will be the anomalous phenomena observed before collapse initiation.


One year from today, there will be some big hitters behind demolition by heat-weakening.

One year from today, most of you - whether you admit it to yourselves or not - are going to be feeling really stupid.
 
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Take every engineer in America out to lunch.... 2008 in the truth movement will go down as the year of the lunch.
 
CHF said:
So tell us....do any of you plan on doing something productive for a change?
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What will they do? It's pretty simple really. CTists know the U.S. government was complicit in the murder of 3000 people. What would any true patriot do?

Work with engineers to ensure scientific papers for peer review in reputable industry publications?
Contact the police?
Retain lawyers to peruse legal avenues of justice?
Contact insurance fraud organizations?
Engage district attorneys?
Work with major media to expose the criminals?
Develop massive demonstrations?

Wrong, they will do what they've done for the past 6 years. They will post on an Internet forum.

Oh, some of them will try to make a few bucks from the gullible.
 
I'd say we're in for another year of them not proving anything, followed by more making it up as they go along and denial of the rest.
 
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Max Photon said:
In a mere 11 months, I have developed a WTC collapse initiation model that - I believe - has the greatest evidentiary harmony of all current models - including NISTs.
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The rest of the world, meanwhile, thinks you're a nut. So what do you plan on doing to change that situation?

The WTC towers collapsed because fires heat-weakened steel.
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But in your world the raging inferno caused by airliner impacts wasn't the culprit. Instead you think the situation needed some thermite in order to push things over the edge.

Now granted, you haven't quite worked out how this thermite was planted, how it was able to survive the airliners, why anyone would attempt something so stupid, and you don't have any, well, evidence....but other than that you've got a rock-solid theory.

One year from today, there will be some big hitters behind demolition by heat-weakening.
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There are already plenty of big hitters behind collapse by heat-weakening. So what do you plan on doing to convince them that the massive fire on 9/11 needed some thermite?

Dare I say, a year from now you'll have embraced the official story. You're already 90% there.
 
Max Photon said:
As Commander of the Fourth Infantile Division, as I reflect on my 2007 campaign, I am pleased.

In a mere 11 months, I have developed a WTC collapse initiation model that - I believe - has the greatest evidentiary harmony of all current models - including NISTs.

NIST, Bazant, Blanchard - all the experts - have only envisioned demolition by cutting.

You sheep have followed them, and have spent 2007 shadow boxing with demolition by cutting. What a bunch of idiots.

The WTC towers collapsed because fires heat-weakened steel.

The question for 2008 is:

Were the WTC fires arson? Did incendiaries stoke the fires, and heat the steel?

The evidence of the fires is beautifully cataloged in NCSTARS 1-5A.

In 1-5A/9/C (observations of the facade of WTC2 from impact to collapse initiation), there are numerous bizarre phenomena and fire behaviors that are well described but poorly explained by NIST.

I claim that arson (to augment the fires induced by the jets) has greater consistency - better fit - with these anomalous phenomena than does the NIST model.

Like it or not, the battle has moved to cutting to heat-weakening, and the battle line will be the anomalous phenomena observed before collapse initiation.


One year from today, there will be some big hitters behind demolition by heat-weakening.

One year from today, most of you - whether you admit it to yourselves or not - are going to be feeling really stupid.
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The safest prediction anybody can make is that NOBODY here will feel stupid. We rationalists won't feel stupid because we're right, we have overwhelming evidence to support us, and the new year will bring more crushing refutations of the nonsense promoted by the fantasy movement. You liars and loons won't feel stupid because, well, do I have to spell it out?
 
Gravy said:
Camp outside the White House until a new investigation is ordered!

Wait...that was supposed to be the plan for 2007. Okay:

1) Make idiotic claims
2) Ask questions
3) Ignore answers
4) Repeat # 1
5)?
6) Profit!
Click to expand...

Or the simple list:

1) annoy
 
1) Claim to be the One And Only True Prophet of 9/11
2) Denounce all others as false prophets - i.e. disinfo.
3) Flog the CD.
4) Climb onto the "2012 = Doomsday" bandwagon (better profit margins than 9/11)
 
David Ray Griffin will be writing another book. That might help...
 
Max,

How many peer-reviewed journals has your theory been published in?
 
There is just one thing -

sooner or later there will be a terrorist attack on american soil again. May it be another McVeigh, another 1993 WTC bombing or something bigger like 9/11. Or the gouvernment will be forced into a new Waco.

It is just a question of time. There are really crazy people out there and not all of them are satisfied with posting their hatred in some forum.

Whatever may come - there will be a crowd of people who find it easier choosing a state of denial than face the simple but gruesome truth.

This is some disturbing thought - that people like Alex Jones and other prophets of the apocalyse are really waiting for the next catastrophe to come.
And WHEN it happens be assured Mr Jones or Mr Avery won´t think in the first place about the poor victims but about how they were "right" and what it does mean for THEIR future.

This maybe unfair assumption is only based on everything I read, see and hear from these quite honorable men.
 
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That thermite heat-weakened WTC steel to initiate collapse WILL get published.

...so start learning how to read.



Sunstealer said:
I think in 2008 Max will claim that Marmite instead of thermite was used to "heat weaken" steel.
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Sunstealer, Marmite instantly made me think of Maxmite. Maxmite's awesome! (You get full credit.)


The Doc said:
Max, [yes Doc]

How many peer-reviewed journals has your theory been published in?
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Zero.

But Doc trust me - the essence of MAX-MIHOP - thermite heat-weakened the Towers to initiate collapse - will in due time be front and center in peer-reviewed journals.
 
Max Photon said:
...so start learning how to read.






Sunstealer, Marmite instantly made me think of Maxmite. Maxmite's awesome! (You get full credit.)





Zero.

But Doc trust me - the essence of MAX-MIHOP - thermite heat-weakened the Towers to initiate collapse - will in due time be front and center in peer-reviewed journals.
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They are peer-reviewing children's books now? Wow, who knew?
 
CHF said:
So, [...] RedIbis, [...] and any other "truthseekers" reading this:
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If you're going to address me directly, ask something specific and don't lump me in with a group you've demonized and about which you have preconceptions.
 
RedIbis said:
If you're going to address me directly, ask something specific and don't lump me in with a group you've demonized and about which you have preconceptions.
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Ummm, OK. RedIbis: what are your plans to make 2008 a good year for da twoof?
 
CHF said:
Ummm, OK. RedIbis: what are your plans to make 2008 a good year for da twoof?
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I'm going to attempt not responding to posters who have no real interest in debate or the exchange of ideas.
 
RedIbis said:
I'm going to attempt not responding to posters who have no real interest in debate or the exchange of ideas.
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I don't see how that would advance your theories.

How about submitting your "research" for peer-review? Any chance of you being the first twoofer to do so?
 
CHF said:
I don't see how that would advance your theories.

How about submitting your "research" for peer-review? Any chance of you being the first twoofer to do so?
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Do you really think you're going to get a serious response when you refer to me as a "twoofer"?
 
RedIbis said:
Do you really think you're going to get a serious response when you refer to me as a "twoofer"?
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RedIbis, I wouldn't get a serious response from you if I adressed you as "your majesty."

Like all other kooks you're full of crap and deep down you know it.

After all, why else would you guys be so terrified of peer-review?
 
RedIbis said:
Do you really think you're going to get a serious response when you refer to me as a "twoofer"?
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I suspect you will be taken more seriously when you can direct people to your published, if possible peer-reviewed, documents explaining your views and introducing your evidence. (Like why anyone should bother with your claims that Myers was negligent, on the silly grounds which you have so far presented. You are going to have a hard time living that one down.)

By "published," however, I would include a non-peer-reviewed report on a web site.

Say! Why don't you start with the Myers document!? That will get you started. No, no, you don't have to thank me for the suggestion. All for the greater good.
 
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