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Old 5th January 2008, 09:19 PM   #41
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Originally Posted by T.A.M. View Post
I think FactCheck was referring to the web address, offering Gravy a free hub to place his content, that offers him a chance to call it "Gravylinks.com" or some other such name.

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Aside from its Forrest Gump-era style (googlepages doesn't accept most custom HTML, so fomatting options are very limited),
I was going to help him with a web site that offers more formating options. Something like my site. But then again maybe my site is filled with "needless bells and whistle and other usability-wrecking space junk."
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Old 5th January 2008, 09:36 PM   #42
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Gravy,

You know, I have servers upon servers. If you ever want to move off Googlesites, just let me know.

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P.S. I'll even do it for free if you'll let me banner the top and bottom of each page with affiliate ads.
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Old 6th January 2008, 08:09 AM   #43
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Gravy,
I found a broken link on page 3 of the Flight 93 section:
"Photo of Debris still in PA"

This link - http://www.heinz.org/files/h-spring05-SacredGround.pdf

It returns a "Page cannot be found" error.
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Old 6th January 2008, 11:24 AM   #44
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Here's a couple of links that you may want to add to your Houston Hobby crash section.
http://www.click2houston.com/automot...71/detail.html As you can see, there is no comparison between the light poles hit at the Pentagon and the light tower hit in Houston.

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The airplane performance study showed that the airplane tracked the ILS runway 4 localizer and continued to descend until about 0614:47. The airplane impacted a light pole at an altitude of about 198 feet and about 3 1/4 miles from the runway 4 threshold.
http://www.ntsb.gov/publictn/2006/AAB0606.htm
One would assume that this light tower was designed to resist hurricane force winds given Houston's proximity to the hurricane prone Gulf of Mexico.
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Old 6th January 2008, 11:45 AM   #45
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Stellar work, as always, Mark. Very nicely done, indeed.

Thanks, LashL!
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I spotted a minor typo on this page
and thought I'd point it out so that you can remove the misplaced hyphen in the word "recently" in the last sentence of the penultimate paragraph.
There were four of those! Cutting and pasting from Word sometimes results in a document that's straight out of the 1880's.

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Gravy,

You know, I have servers upon servers. If you ever want to move off Googlesites, just let me know.

-Ben

P.S. I'll even do it for free if you'll let me banner the top and bottom of each page with affiliate ads.
That's very generous of you, Ben! Let me chew on that.

Originally Posted by OldTigerCub View Post
Gravy,
I found a broken link on page 3 of the Flight 93 section:
"Photo of Debris still in PA"

This link - http://www.heinz.org/files/h-spring05-SacredGround.pdf

It returns a "Page cannot be found" error.
Thanks. Replaced it with an archived page.

Originally Posted by Boone 870 View Post
Here's a couple of links that you may want to add to your Houston Hobby crash section.
http://www.click2houston.com/automot...71/detail.html As you can see, there is no comparison between the light poles hit at the Pentagon and the light tower hit in Houston.

http://www.ntsb.gov/publictn/2006/AAB0606.htm
One would assume that this light tower was designed to resist hurricane force winds given Houston's proximity to the hurricane prone Gulf of Mexico.
Thanks. I was going to add these to my revision of LC2E, which I never finished. The comparison is a dishonest one, and doesn't take into account the relative masses and speeds of the planes, or the fact that flight 77 did crash about 1.5 seconds after it hit the first pole. There's no way to know what damage or disruption the poles actually caused.
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Old 7th January 2008, 03:46 AM   #46
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Nice work, Gravy, as always.

One point: You've got a reference to one of my posts on Kenneth Kuttler, but it's not the full story. There's a more thorough critique at http://www.internationalskeptics.com...ad.php?t=98714 (and, as far as I know, a paper based on it due to come out in JOD911 some time) that you might like to link to instead.

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Old 8th January 2008, 03:08 PM   #47
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One note on your web page. This photo is not ALUMINUM. I spoke with Steve Chastain about that.
http://www.metalwebnews.com/howto/furnace2/melting.html

http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/grou...lssortingopera
This was labeled incorrect. Judy Wood made the same error.

You can also see questions on his website about the same photo. He has some info on the subject.

http://stephenchastain.com/metaltalk.htm
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Old 8th January 2008, 03:08 PM   #48
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Double post whoops...

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Old 8th January 2008, 03:57 PM   #49
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I still think you need to add Ghost Wars to your recommended reading section on the front page. It debunks a number of the CIA/Al Qaeda/Afghan Pipeline/US Governemt in actually competent myths.
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Old 8th January 2008, 04:22 PM   #50
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Originally Posted by Dave Rogers View Post
Nice work, Gravy, as always.

One point: You've got a reference to one of my posts on Kenneth Kuttler, but it's not the full story. There's a more thorough critique at http://www.internationalskeptics.com...ad.php?t=98714 (and, as far as I know, a paper based on it due to come out in JOD911 some time) that you might like to link to instead.

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Thanks. Fixed it.

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One note on your web page. This photo is not ALUMINUM. I spoke with Steve Chastain about that.
http://www.metalwebnews.com/howto/furnace2/melting.html

http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/grou...lssortingopera
This was labeled incorrect. Judy Wood made the same error.

You can also see questions on his website about the same photo. He has some info on the subject.

http://stephenchastain.com/metaltalk.htm
Ah! I guess that explains why it's still so bright on the sand. Thanks for the correction.

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I still think you need to add Ghost Wars to your recommended reading section on the front page. It debunks a number of the CIA/Al Qaeda/Afghan Pipeline/US Governemt in actually competent myths.
Good idea. It's in the terrorism reading section now. I'll move it up.
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Old 11th January 2008, 12:01 PM   #51
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Very nice Mark.

I have one teeny bit of info I am looking for though and cannot find it on the wtc7lies site.

I have a 'Truth Mover' pointing to pictures of the tower columns that were cut by rescue/clean up crews and saying that oxy torch cutting does not leave slag as seen in the pictures.

Of course this is all leading towards the thermite(ate) shinola.

Do youi have a link concerning the cutting of columns, especially ones that were still vertical after the collapse, and for steel cutting in general that illustrates that this guy is as out-to-lunch as I believe him to be? I mentioned that , yes, in normal circumstances, with thinner material to cut and when the operator needs a nice, clean cut, it will be done in such a way as to leave little slag BUT that in this case the material was quite thick and no one cared if the cut was nice and clean. I need a back up reference though.

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Very nice Mark.

I have one teeny bit of info I am looking for though and cannot find it on the wtc7lies site.

I have a 'Truth Mover' pointing to pictures of the tower columns that were cut by rescue/clean up crews and saying that oxy torch cutting does not leave slag as seen in the pictures.

Of course this is all leading towards the thermite(ate) shinola.

Do youi have a link concerning the cutting of columns, especially ones that were still vertical after the collapse, and for steel cutting in general that illustrates that this guy is as out-to-lunch as I believe him to be? I mentioned that , yes, in normal circumstances, with thinner material to cut and when the operator needs a nice, clean cut, it will be done in such a way as to leave little slag BUT that in this case the material was quite thick and no one cared if the cut was nice and clean. I need a back up reference though.

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Yeah, conspiradroids, they brought the tower down by putting thermite on one column. Or could there be better explanation?

You may find this page to be helpful: Photos of WTC torch-cut steel, comparison to thermite cut
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Old 14th January 2008, 04:43 PM   #53
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ignore my postin this question elsewhere. My bad
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