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Old 1st February 2008, 01:29 PM   #41
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Originally Posted by pomeroo View Post
I'm sorry that Diane has decided that she isn't quite ready to appear on 'Hardfire.' She strikes me as intelligent and reasonable, which, of course, raises the question of what she's doing on her side of the fence. We can look forward to her participation at a later date.

I'm back to square one. I can't produce any champion of Truth to explain to Mark and Arthur Scheuerman where they're going wrong. Isn't this an astonishing development? How can these people prefer endlessly reciting the same canards on tiny blogs to spreading the gospel to a worldwide audience?

The comical buffoon Jon Gold, incidentally, wouldn't dream of facing Mark or even poor little me. He has richly earned his nickname, "The Running Man."
I don't think you'll find a rational person to debate an irrational subject against someone that knows their techniques. How about a show that features you, Arthur and Mark discussing the leading theories and why they don't hold water? It does not give any of them personally any attention but would get the point across.

Personally I think giving any of them any attention is wrong and could (if they use enough double speak) gain them more members. Remember any publicity is good publicity, If they can't associate it to a certain person they can't directly use it for support.

Again my $.02
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Old 1st February 2008, 01:40 PM   #42
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Ron:
I just had an idea (feeding of my last post). What about you being the devils advocate so to speak. You present the theories and the arguments and Arthur and Mark knock them down. It works logically as a host and man would it piss them off that you had to present their case.
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Old 1st February 2008, 04:28 PM   #43
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Originally Posted by DGM View Post
Ron:
I just had an idea (feeding of my last post). What about you being the devils advocate so to speak. You present the theories and the arguments and Arthur and Mark knock them down. It works logically as a host and man would it piss them off that you had to present their case.

Not a bad idea, DGM. Maybe we'll try it.
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Old 1st February 2008, 06:10 PM   #44
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Originally Posted by pomeroo View Post
I'm sorry that Diane has decided that she isn't quite ready to appear on 'Hardfire.' She strikes me as intelligent and reasonable, which, of course, raises the question of what she's doing on her side of the fence. We can look forward to her participation at a later date.

I'm back to square one. I can't produce any champion of Truth to explain to Mark and Arthur Scheuerman where they're going wrong. Isn't this an astonishing development? How can these people prefer endlessly reciting the same canards on tiny blogs to spreading the gospel to a worldwide audience?

The comical buffoon Jon Gold, incidentally, wouldn't dream of facing Mark or even poor little me. He has richly earned his nickname, "The Running Man."

there sure are a lot of not ready for prime time troothers who wont debate
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Old 2nd February 2008, 07:08 AM   #45
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Oh well...I gues the Scheuerman episode is hosed.
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Old 2nd February 2008, 07:59 AM   #46
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Diane has an update on her blog
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Old 2nd February 2008, 09:48 AM   #47
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I never understood that sort of ad hominem attack. If Mark really is that incompetent, incapable, or otherwise an easy adversary- then why not destroy him in a debate? He's obviously a well-recognized figure for "our side", but somehow going after an "easy" figurehead just doesn't seem like a good strategy to these people?

Diane I can excuse- she's unprepared... but the rest of the jokers who try and claim that Mark is unqualified as an excuse are only making themselves look worse, and contradicting their entire position.
Diane has quoted the above paragraph on her blog and stated that she never made these comments- she left out the bottom part which would seem to clarify that the first paragraph was not specifically referring to Diane, but rather to Mark's challenges as a whole.
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Old 2nd February 2008, 09:52 AM   #48
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Wouldn't it be funny if Mark and Diane met on Ron's show and fell in love? They could be the James Carville-Mary Matalin of the conspiracy world.
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Old 2nd February 2008, 10:11 AM   #49
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Let's see...what's playing at the Grand Ole Oprah?

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Old 2nd February 2008, 11:01 AM   #50
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Let's see...what's playing at the Grand Ole Oprah?
Max, why are you posting in this thread?
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Max, why are you posting in this thread?
Probably boredom.
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Old 2nd February 2008, 02:25 PM   #52
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I didn't want to resurrect the "Hardfire News" thread, so I'll post this here.

Gary Popkin has persuaded (he thinks) Richard Gage to appear on 'Hardfire' via remote hookup by assuring him that I won't be involved. A libertarian named Joseph Dobrian, a very bright, pleasant guy, will host. Mark, are you available to oppose Gage on Thursday, April 10, at 7:15 PM?

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Old 2nd February 2008, 02:37 PM   #53
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Originally Posted by DGM View Post
Ron:
I just had an idea (feeding of my last post). What about you being the devils advocate so to speak. You present the theories and the arguments and Arthur and Mark knock them down. It works logically as a host and man would it piss them off that you had to present their case.
Since all the Truthers have chickened out, I think it might be a good idea to get a former Truther to be the devil's advocate. In the other thread I sugested Mikey Metz, but I'm sure there are many of them to choose from.

It's not that I don't think Ron could do it, but a former Truther might be more familiar with the CT positions.
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