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Bee death: the true explanation

wogoga

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A typical statement:

"A dramatic spate of bee deaths is being observed in the USA. In many regions almost 90 percent of the population has been affected. In Germany and Switzerland too, colony numbers have virtually halved in the last 15 years. But what are the causes?" (from afaa.com.au/news/n_news-2022.asp)

The primary cause of this bee death is very simple: there are not enough bee souls for the growing honey production all over the world. Many of the bee souls working now in East Asia and South America still worked in Europe and North America some years ago. The most efficient way to increase the world-wide honey production would consist in exterminating all species closely related to the honey bee. Yet it is clear that the souls of such related species need some lives as honey bees before they can be efficient honey bees themselves.

The limited number of souls having developed during evolution of life ("the psychon theory") explains why domestication and aquaculture inevitably lead to a reduction in the corresponding wild populations. It also explains the spreading of lowest-low fertility among humans around the world ("demographic saturation").

Cheers, Wolfgang
 
I'm going to go drink a beer and hope I kill whatever brain cells might be involved in storing that load in my memory.
 
Freethinker said:
I'm going to go drink a beer and hope I kill whatever brain cells might be involved in storing that load in my memory.
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Hey, it's not only a funny load, it's a load that has been used in at least two SF short stories I remember (and I have only read possibly 25% of all the pro SF stories in English). For human souls, not Bees.
 
The "theory" does not make any sense intrinsically. If there were a limited number of bee souls, the number of bees would stabilize, not decrease. :confused:
 
Gord_in_Toronto said:
The "theory" does not make any sense intrinsically. If there were a limited number of bee souls, the number of bees would stabilize, not decrease. :confused:
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You are missing the point........many, ok some, of the bee souls go to "heaven".

Therefore, there are less to make the stuff that goes in my tea.

In 20 years, if i'm still kicking, I'll have to use sugar.

Damn the good souled bees.
 
XBoxWarrior said:
You are missing the point........many, ok some, of the bee souls go to "heaven".

Therefore, there are less to make the stuff that goes in my tea.

In 20 years, if i'm still kicking, I'll have to use sugar.

Damn the good souled bees.
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Ah. Oh. That fixes the theory. I may yet become a believer. Should we start annoying bees so they are not good enough to go to heaven? :boggled:
 
wogoga said:
The primary cause of this bee death is very simple: there are not enough bee souls for the growing honey production all over the world. Many of the bee souls working now in East Asia and South America still worked in Europe and North America some years ago.
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Gord_in_Toronto said:
The "theory" does not make any sense intrinsically. If there were a limited number of bee souls, the number of bees would stabilize, not decrease.
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"From 1971 through 2006, there was a dramatic reduction in the number of feral (wild) honeybees in the US (now almost absent); and a significant, though somewhat gradual decline in the number of colonies maintained by beekeepers." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colony_Collapse_Disorder

"World production of honey in 2000, the latest reporting year for the series, rose +1.4% to 1.241 million metric tons from 1.224 million metric tons in 1999. World honey production has been stable in the 1.0-1.2 million metric ton range over the last 15 years." http://www.crbtrader.com/fund/articles/honey.asp

"Honey world production is around 1.4 million tons. Six countries concentrate 50% of total world production where there has been a slightly growing trend in the last decade." http://www.alimentosargentinos.gov.ar/0-3/revistas/r_38/cadenas/Ingles/Honey.htm (2007)

Cheers, Wolfgang
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Just out of curiousity, how many bees are there actually living in the world? A billion? Ten billion? A hundred billion? A trillion? Several trillion? More? Purportedly, one hive can have up to 100,000 or so, and that only takes up an area about a square meter or so.

-Dr. Imago
 
Corsair 115 said:
Bees have souls? I thought souls were the sole province of human beings...
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Bees have bee souls.

Humans have human souls.

Whales have whale souls.

Bacteria have bacteria souls.

Those curious creatures that live at the edges of Black Smokers in the briney deeps have curious creatures that live at the edges of Black Smokers in the briney deeps souls.

Stars have star souls. (Apologies to Olaf Stapledon).

And Canadians have no souls. :sniff:
 
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wogoga said:
A typical statement:

"A dramatic spate of bee deaths is being observed in the USA. In many regions almost 90 percent of the population has been affected. In Germany and Switzerland too, colony numbers have virtually halved in the last 15 years. But what are the causes?" (from afaa.com.au/news/n_news-2022.asp)

The primary cause of this bee death is very simple: there are not enough bee souls for the growing honey production all over the world. Many of the bee souls working now in East Asia and South America still worked in Europe and North America some years ago. The most efficient way to increase the world-wide honey production would consist in exterminating all species closely related to the honey bee. Yet it is clear that the souls of such related species need some lives as honey bees before they can be efficient honey bees themselves.

The limited number of souls having developed during evolution of life ("the psychon theory") explains why domestication and aquaculture inevitably lead to a reduction in the corresponding wild populations. It also explains the spreading of lowest-low fertility among humans around the world ("demographic saturation").

Cheers, Wolfgang
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I thought this was related to Cell Phones.

What exactly do you mean by "bee souls"? I don't believe I understand what you're saying.... like, at all.
 
Dr. Imago said:
Just out of curiousity, how many bees are there actually living in the world? A billion? Ten billion? A hundred billion? A trillion? Several trillion? More?
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Using the facts (source)

  • A single bee colony can produce more than 100 pounds (45 kg) of extra honey and this is what is harvested by the beekeeper.
  • A colony of honey bees in summer has 50-60,000 bees.
we calculate that around 1 gram of honey is harvested per bee. So for the honey world production of around 1.4 million tons, around 1.4 trillion bees are needed. From the dramatic reduction in the number of wild honeybees over the last decades we can conclude that most honeybee souls are now working in the honey production for us. Thus a reasonable guess could be the number of around 2 trillion (2,000,000,000,000) honey bee souls.

BTW, there could be this possibility to increase honey production without decreasing the number of bees elsewhere: The same bee souls must work always there where the season is ideal, e.g. from April to October in North America and from October to April in South America.

Cheers, Wolfgang

Only four centuries ago heliocentrism was considered by the vast majority of educated man as nonsensical as panpsychism still today
 
Out of all the forums on the net, you choose this one to post this kind of info to. It's strange.. and maybe stupid, but you've got balls, I give you that much, haha.. So anyway, what is your definition of a soul? And how do we know it exists? I think i've read your posts before, and the problem is, you don't setup a foundation AT ALL for your readers. You expect us to know what you're talking about right off the bat, as if we're there studying the material together in the same room. So yeah, how about that foundation?
 
Antranik1 said:
I think i've read your posts before, and the problem is, you don't setup a foundation AT ALL for your readers. You expect us to know what you're talking about right off the bat, as if we're there studying the material together in the same room. So yeah, how about that foundation?
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I was thinking the same thing. I have read another post by this guy that was talking about psychons(sp?) and enzymes being connected to souls. I feel that some of these posters RELY on the level of complication in their crackpot theories. This adds a sort of obfuscation in the form of... No one can really say why they are wrong because no one has any idea what the guy just said.

So yeah, to the OP:

Why do you think there is a soul, and what exactly *is* this magical soul comprised of, where does it reside?

DO NOT use postdictive proofs, like " OMG BEES DIED IT WAS CAUSE ALL THE BEE SOULS GOT USED UP LOLOL ". That is rubbish.
 
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