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Browne useless again? Elizabeth Watkins and Nicole Watkins?

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HOST: Montel Williams
EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS: Montel Williams, Diane Rappoport
UNSOLVED CRIMES WITH SYLVIA BROWNE
MONTEL WILLIAMS: If it's Wednesday, it must be time for psychic Sylvia Browne.
Announcer: Unsolved murders at a dead end, until now.
TINA (Sister and Baby Were Brutally Murdered in 1996): Did this person live in the building?
Announcer: Tina thinks she knows who killed her sister and niece. But what Sylvia knows confirms it.
TINA: Oh, my God.
WILLIAMS: Has he done this before?
Ms. SYLVIA BROWNE (World Renowned Psychic): Yes, he has.
Announcer: Plus, can Sylvia help solve the six-year-old murder of Olivia's mother.
Ms. BROWNE: I keep seeing two shots.
OLIVIA (Mother Was Shot And Killed During A Robbery): She wasn't dead so they went back and shot her again.
Announcer: Psychic Sylvia Browne. Don't go away. That's coming up right now on MONTEL.

...

WILLIAMS: Please welcome Tina to the show. Where's Tina at?
Tina, why don't you tell Sylvia--you--you had a question for Sylvia about a loved one, correct?
TINA: Yes, I do, my sister and her two-year-old daughter. Six years ago in--in Washington, my sister and her two-year-old baby were bludgeoned to death. They were beaten so badly that you couldn't even recognize...
Ms. BROWNE: Recognize who they were.
TINA: No. No, the police are calling it a random crime. I--I...
WILLIAMS: And let's...
TINA: They--they also are--are--were thinking that maybe it might have been a serial killer, but they have--they've dropped the case a year later. Th--it's just flat, nothing. We know nothing.
WILLIAMS: Let's...
TINA: We don't even know what kind of weapon that was used or...
Ms. BROWNE: It was a baseball bat.
WILLIAMS: Let's give a couple more facts. No forced entry.
TINA: No.
WILLIAMS: No sign of struggle. Both beaten and bludgeoned to death. And very odd, the only things taken from the home were pictures and videotape.
Ms. BROWNE: And a chain.
WILLIAMS: And a chain?
TINA: A chain?
Ms. BROWNE: A chain.
WILLIAMS: Next question...
TINA: This wasn't a robbery, was it?
Ms. BROWNE: No.
TINA: She knew him?
Ms. BROWNE: Yeah.
TINA: Oh, my God. My brother knew--knew that.
Ms. BROWNE: I know that.
TINA: OK.
Ms. BROWNE: Squat guy, kind of squat.
TINA: Is--is there a weapon somewhere that they can find?
Ms. BROWNE: Yeah, it was--strangely enough, it was an aluminum bat. Now I can't believe that they wouldn't find aluminum, you know what I mean?
TINA: They thought it was a metal object of some sort...
Ms. BROWNE: Well, honey, that's an aluminum bat.
TINA: ...but they found no murder weapon. They found no weapons. They found no...
Ms. BROWNE: Isn't that metal?
WILLIAMS: Aluminum is a kind of a metal.
Ms. BROWNE: Yeah.
TINA: Yes, it is. But also...
WILLIAMS: An odd metal.
TINA: But also--also, Sylvia, they said that nobody--it--the police also said that--that in the building that nobody heard anything. I have a hard time believing that nobody heard anything.
WILLIAMS: And when the police arrived, was not her front door unlocked?
TINA: Yes.
WILLIAMS: So again, no forced entry.
Ms. BROWNE: OK. He comes in with a gun, holds it on her and she's afraid. Now if I hold a gun on you--God forbid, I would never do anything like this--and then I bash your head in, guess what? Do you see what I mean? You're not gonna make any noise.
TINA: No. OK.
WILLIAMS: Can we at least say--well, obviously, the--there can't...
Ms. BROWNE: The guy's still around.
TINA: Yeah.
WILLIAMS: Has he done this before?
Ms. BROWNE: Yes, he has. That's why I--they think it's a serial, don't they?
TINA: Yes, yes. And they said they had to be g--very careful because of the fact that they thought it might be...
Ms. BROWNE: 'Cause there's two other young women that this has happened to inside apartments or houses.
WILLIAMS: In and around...
TINA: OK. In that area?
Ms. BROWNE: Yes.
TINA: OK.
Ms. BROWNE: Within, I'd say, a three-, four-mile radius.
TINA: Right. I--I have one other question for you, Sylvia. My sister and I never talked for years and years and years and years. And right before this happened, we had just started talking to each other. And...
Ms. BROWNE: Yeah, but it wasn't your fault, honey. She had a jealousy problem with you. You know that, don't you?
TINA: Yes.
Ms. BROWNE: Yes. Well, so?
TINA: But she knows that I love her?
Ms. BROWNE: Yeah, absolutely, they know everything.
TINA: You know, I named my daughter after her baby.
Ms. BROWNE: I know, honey. They know everything. She just had a real jealousy thing.
TINA: OK.
WILLIAMS: But was that three-month honeymoon period that they were having--did she really believe that they were gonna be OK? The two of them?
Ms. BROWNE: Absolutely, absolutely. Now have you had your breasts checked recently?
TINA: No.
Ms. BROWNE: 'Cause you have cystic breasts. You know that, don't you?
TINA: No.
Ms. BROWNE: Well, get them checked.
TINA: OK.
Ms. BROWNE: It's not serious. I just want you to check them.
TINA: OK.
Ms. BROWNE: All right?
TINA: All right. Thank you.
WILLIAMS: Let me take a break. When we come back, a young woman fighting to put her mother's killer behind bars. We'll take a break. We'll be back right after this.

...

I believe that this is Tina's sister and niece based on the location (The state of Washington), the age and sex of the child (2 years, female) and the approximate date (the transcript gives 1996 and this took place in November 1995) as well as details of the crime-



SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER
November 7, 1995, Tuesday , FINAL
MOTHER AND GIRL FATALLY BEATEN


Elizabeth Watkins and her 2-year-old daughter Nicole were fatally beaten before their bodies were found in their apartment last weekend by a friend, the King County Medical Examiner's Office said yesterday.

Autopsies conducted on the woman and her daughter determined that they died as a result of "blunt-force injuries to the head," investigator Nick Fletcher said.

The deaths were ruled homicides, but investigators had not found a weapon or determined what was used.

Watkins, 39, a nursing student at Renton Community College, and her daughter were found about 2 p.m. Saturday in their apartment by a woman friend who had planned to have lunch with Watkins, police said.

Twelve investigators are working on the case and have interviewed "everybody we know who has a link with Elizabeth or Nicole," including Nicole's father, police spokeswoman Penny Bryant said.

No one has been arrested, and Bryant declined to discuss whether police have any suspects. There was no sign of forced entry and no sign of a struggle, police said. Both bodies were fully clothed. The apartment was well-kept and had not been ransacked, Bryant said.


Edit: I took the initiative to search through Washington news sources to see if, as Browne claims, the double homicide was found to be related to any other crimes. I found that allthough there are quite a few murders in Renton, Washington, some of which are crimes against women and some of which involve bludgeoning, I once again have no idea what in the world Browne is talking about. In fact-


The Seattle Times

November 8, 1995, Wednesday, Final Edition
12 DETECTIVES ON DOUBLE SLAYING

SECTION: SOUTH; SOUTH COUNTY BRIEFLY; Pg. B2

LENGTH: 217 words

DATELINE: RENTON




RENTON - Twelve detectives are working to solve the weekend double homicide of a mother and child at an apartment complex in the Renton Highlands.

Elizabeth Watkins, 39, and 2-year-old Nicole Watkins were found dead inside their apartment in the 3800 block of Northeast Fourth Street on Saturday afternoon. Autopsies determined the two had died Friday of head injuries inflicted with a blunt object.
A friend found the bodies when she entered the home through an unlocked sliding-glass door. Watkins had been last seen about 6 p.m. Friday.

Renton Police spokeswoman Penny Bryant said police have some leads in the case but would not elaborate. The slayings were the ninth and 10th in the city this year.

She said the slayings are unrelated to another Renton double homicide involving a mother and child just over a year ago. The bodies of Stacey Falcon-Dewey, 23, and her 3-year-old son, Jacob John, were found Oct. 28, 1994, in the middle of a road in a remote area. The two had been shot to death.

In that case, police are investigating whether 27-year-old Scott Holm, of Des Moines, who was slain himself less than two weeks later, was the killer. Holm had acknowledged to police he had dated Falcon-Dewey.

Anyone with information is asked to call Renton detectives at 277-4488.
 
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Once again, Browne tries to distract everyone with the bit bout her breasts at the end. Montel is as useless as ever and just interrupts at random - why is aluminium a strange metal?

Presumably nothing was ever found out, so Browne just gets more money and publicity for doing nothing.
 
How do you hold a gun to someone's head and simultaneously beat them to death with a baseball bat?
 
Wow. Sylvia doesn't even try to sound psychic. If you read that dialogue not knowing the context or participants, it would sound like two people just guessing the details of a murder.
 
tking:
"How do you hold a gun to someone's head and simultaneously beat them to death with a baseball bat?"
LOL!
I was wondering the same thing.
 

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