Obama To Appear on FOX News O'Reilly's The Factor Thursday

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The DailyKos declared moratorium for Obama to appear on FOX News was already breached when Obama was interviewed by Chris Wallace, but Obama going on O'Reilly has got to be the final neutering for this inchoate and vitriolic blog.
 
Cicero, I started this poll over at the Kos just for you. It's currently at 64% of the Kossites thinking it's a good or great idea.
 
I am shocked! Shocked, I say!

How can the Daily Kos let you do a poll without a Planet X option? It's absence totally invalidates the results.
 
boloboffin said:
Cicero, I started this poll over at the Kos just for you. It's currently at 64% of the Kossites thinking it's a good or great idea.
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Odd that the Kos Hacks conveniently forgot how Obama ignored their commandment on never to appear on FOX News and now beleive Obama will be fairly treated by O'Reilly.

MSNBC's Dan Abrama will throw his usual fit about how Obama will appear on a cable channel that is critical of him, yet will not come on his show. While Abrams is mystified why he is snubbed, Obama is smart enough to spend his valuable time where there is actually a viewing audience larger than that of "Brooke Knows Best."
 
Actually, I'm impressed with it.
Way back early in the primaries, I remember O'Reilley giving Kudos to Obama for how he handled an altercation between one of Obama's handlers and O'Reilly interviewers.

(I'm going off very faulty memory here)
But I believe Obama came up apologized for the missunderstanding, and ORielly asked, "When you coming on the factor?" and Obama replied with an "After I get the Nomination."

IF he's already planning to be on the factor 1 week after he has the nomination, that's proof to his word.



I'd be curious to know how OReilly's been dealing with that.
 
Sounds like it'll be interesting. I can't wait for the YouTube video.

ETA: Now that I think of it, this is actually a very smart move by Obama. It gets him high profile press on Fox News (and likely other networks as well due to the novelty of it) on the very same day that McCain accepts the GOP nomination. Smart.
 
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MattusMaximus said:
ETA: Now that I think of it, this is actually a very smart move by Obama. It gets him high profile press on Fox News (and likely other networks as well due to the novelty of it) on the very same day that McCain accepts the GOP nomination. Smart.
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Which is exactly why he took it. Though CNN had much higher ratings than Fox for the DNC, Fox always gets its best ratings covering the RNC. Obama's going to go on their biggest night.
 
Cain said:
Which is exactly why he took it. Though CNN had much higher ratings than Fox for the DNC, Fox always gets its best ratings covering the RNC. Obama's going to go on their biggest night.
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And watch him tear all those Wednesday night GOP talking-points to shreds. Better yet, he'll be doing it right in O'Reilly's face. :D
 
Rip GOP talking points to shreds? Now, now, don't get overexcited. I'm guessing the interview will not be talked about or referenced one week from now.
 
O'Reilly's interview with Clinton wasn't very confrontational. It far exceeded my expectations. I expect the same treatment of Obama. As big a blowhard as O'Reilly is, he does a decent interview when he knows he has to go out of his way to be fair.
 
BenBurch said:
Sounds like a brave thing to do.

Will McCain consent to be interviewed by Keith Obermann, you think? Not likely if Larry King was too hardball for him!
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I really can't see Olberman being as restrained in an interview of McCain as O'Reilly was in interviewing Hillary Clinton. I expect he'll treat Obama with the same degree of respect. I also think that Obama wouldn't agree to this had O'Reilly not gone out of his way to give Hillary a fair shake. Is there any video out there of Olberman interviewing a conservative and going out of his way to be fair? I don't usually watch him, and I'd be interested in knowing. I consider the two of them equally annoying, for the record.
 
Freddy said:
I really can't see Olberman being as restrained in an interview of McCain as O'Reilly was in interviewing Hillary Clinton. I expect he'll treat Obama with the same degree of respect. I also think that Obama wouldn't agree to this had O'Reilly not gone out of his way to give Hillary a fair shake. Is there any video out there of Olberman interviewing a conservative and going out of his way to be fair? I don't usually watch him, and I'd be interested in knowing. I consider the two of them equally annoying, for the record.
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Since KO has referred to McCain as a war monger, and KO never has on guests with contrary views, the only reason for McCain to go on KO would be to KO KO. Maybe McCain will go on Raychill Maddow's new MSNBC show. Considering her sour outlook for all things not far left, he could get her ratings out of the cellar, for one night.
 
Cicero said:
Since KO has referred to McCain as a war monger, and KO never has on guests with contrary views, the only reason for McCain to go on KO would be to KO KO. Maybe McCain will go on Raychill Maddow's new MSNBC show. Considering her sour outlook for all things not far left, he could get her ratings out of the cellar, for one night.
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You still can't spell Rachel, I see.
 
The Cos Hacks screwed the pooch, again. O'Reilly's interview with Obama airs hours earlier than McCain's convention speech tonight.
 
Cicero said:
The Cos Hacks screwed the pooch, again. O'Reilly's interview with Obama airs hours earlier than McCain's convention speech tonight.
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How so? How did this group you appear to consider as a monolithic one have any control over any such thing at all?
 
Should be an interesting interview. Also anyone mentioning Keith Olbermann and a real interview should be laughed out of town. Olbermann is so far up Obama and the KOS's ass that I'm surprised people can even get close to him. Also Olbermann has NEVER had anyone with a differing opinion on his show EVER. It's so predictible it's a wonder why people even watch it. Republican attack, Bush attack, anything said or done by anyone not republican praised, liberal friends and commentators agree with Olbermann, McCain attack, McCain attack, Obama love fest, Bill O'Reilly is the worst person in the world, ranting and raving for 5-10 minutes, the end. Every single show follows the same pattern.
 
boloboffin said:
How so? How did this group you appear to consider as a monolithic one have any control over any such thing at all?
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Reading the posts on your Cos Hacks thread sure do parrot the same anti FOX News theme.

"More people will watch Obama on FOX...
that will watch McCain accept the nomination.
ENOUGH!"
by David Kroning on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 05:26:29 PM PDT


37 million watched Palin's speech. How does Kroning figure O'Reilly's interview will garner more or less viewers than McCain's speech? The two events are not competing for the same time slot.

"There is a convergence of interests. Fox wants Obama on their network. By boycotting Fox, MSNBC elevated itself as the cutting edge network for political news. Fox wants back in the game and wants to crush MSNBC, so Obama has leverage. Fox is also not pleased about the Palin pick. They wanted Giuliani, Lieberman or Romney. They might have more to gain in an Obama administration."
by khyber900 on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 05:39:42 PM PDT


MSNBC is the "cutting edge political network?" What study determined this? It surely can not be based on ratings since FOX News trounces both CNN and MSNBC.

Where does khyber900 get his info about whom FOX News wants as McCain's VP? Don't Cos Hackers ever challenge unsubstantiated comments like these?
 
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Smart move. If he is treated fairly he will have a opportunity to preach in the opposition's favorite pulpit; If O'Reilly does a hatchet job Obama, Obama can make points about how he was willing to face the enemy in his den .
 
Policenaut said:
Should be an interesting interview. Also anyone mentioning Keith Olbermann and a real interview should be laughed out of town. Olbermann is so far up Obama and the KOS's ass that I'm surprised people can even get close to him. Also Olbermann has NEVER had anyone with a differing opinion on his show EVER. It's so predictible it's a wonder why people even watch it. Republican attack, Bush attack, anything said or done by anyone not republican praised, liberal friends and commentators agree with Olbermann, McCain attack, McCain attack, Obama love fest, Bill O'Reilly is the worst person in the world, ranting and raving for 5-10 minutes, the end. Every single show follows the same pattern.
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For all the bitter feuding between O Reilly and Olbermann, they are cut from the same cloth, just different colors: BOth are blind Partisans who use the same half truths, dirty tricks, and general dishonesty to get thier ideology across.
Just change the names in the above description of a typical Olbermann show ..which I 100% agree with..and you have a perfect description of the OReilly show.
Both are so much up the butts of their respective parties it is pathetic.
 
dudalb said:
For all the bitter feuding between O Reilly and Olbermann, they are cut from the same cloth, just different colors: BOth are blind Partisans who use the same half truths, dirty tricks, and general dishonesty to get thier ideology across.
Just change the names in the above description of a typical Olbermann show ..which I 100% agree with..and you have a perfect description of the OReilly show.
Both are so much up the butts of their respective parties it is pathetic.
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OREILLY:

Believes in man-made global warming
Is against the death penalty
RFK is his all time hero
Believes in gun control
Attacks the oil companies at every opportunity

also has on liberal pundits and left wing group leaders

Contrast that to KO who is a true liberal ideologue and absolutely would never even entertain the idea of having on any guest with an opposing view.

Changing the names does in no way make these two commentators identical in that description.
 
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dudalb said:
For all the bitter feuding between O Reilly and Olbermann, they are cut from the same cloth, just different colors: BOth are blind Partisans who use the same half truths, dirty tricks, and general dishonesty to get thier ideology across.
Just change the names in the above description of a typical Olbermann show ..which I 100% agree with..and you have a perfect description of the OReilly show.
Both are so much up the butts of their respective parties it is pathetic.
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Kieth Olbermann is actually much worse than O'Reilly.

O'Reilly actually challenges some of his guests, while Olbermann just has someone on to agree with him.

Sure, they are both biased as all Hell, but I have slightly more respect for O'Reilly's method for being biased.

Of course, I don't know that Olbermann ever tries to claim that he isn't biased like O'Reilly does, so maybe his is the more ethical bias.
 
All I know is that generally when OLbermann or O Reilly comes on 99% of the time I switch channels.
What gets to me is neither Olbermann or O Reilly have a background in covering politics. O Reilly got his start as the star of "Inside Edition" possibly the most lurid Tabloid News Show in TV history (which makes his constant rants about the immoral media pretty silly) and Olbermann was a sportscaster.
Which might actually explain the low quality of the shows.
 
Cicero said:
OREILLY:

Believes in man-made global warming
Is against the death penalty
RFK is his all time hero
Believes in gun control
Attacks the oil companies at every opportunity

also has on liberal pundits and left wing group leaders

Contrast that to KO who is a true liberal ideologue and absolutely would never even entertain the idea of having on any guest with an opposing view.

Changing the names does in now way make these two commentators identical in that description.
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Tsukasa Buddha said:
Kieth Olbermann is actually much worse than O'Reilly.

O'Reilly actually challenges some of his guests, while Olbermann just has someone on to agree with him.

Sure, they are both biased as all Hell, but I have slightly more respect for O'Reilly's method for being biased.
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I don't see things the same, for this reason:

Of course, I don't know that Olbermann ever tries to claim that he isn't biased like O'Reilly does, so maybe his is the more ethical bias.
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I have more respect for Rush Limbaugh than Billo for some of the same reasons I have more for Olbermann than Billo. Rush and KO don't lie about who they are, for one.
 
Snide said:
I don't see things the same, for this reason:

I have more respect for Rush Limbaugh than Billo for some of the same reasons I have more for Olbermann than Billo. Rush and KO don't lie about who they are, for one.
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Where does KO admit that he is an invincibly biased liberal hack with zero journalistic credentials?
 
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Well O'Reilly at least lets different viewpoints on his show. What is the point of a political show with no one ever disagreeing with the host? I imagine a Countdown style would play well in North Korea. I think people like Olbermann or Rush or anyone who spews garbage while their feet are never held to the fire are just boring. Why are they so popular? The truth, I fear, is that most people are just too stupid to have their own opinion and need someone who constantly feeds them one who is never questioned or challenged on their own show. It makes them feel smart and on the correct side of the argument.
 
Cicero said:
Where does KO admit that he is an invincibly biased liberal hack with zero journalistic credentials?
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Oh, gee, I guess he doesn't...wow, you sure got me there! Whew, do I feel sheepish! :D:D
 
Policenaut said:
Well O'Reilly at least lets different viewpoints on his show. What is the point of a political show with no one ever disagreeing with the host?
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To satisfy an audience that doesn't want that.

I imagine a Countdown style would play well in North Korea. I think people like Olbermann or Rush or anyone who spews garbage while their feet are never held to the fire are just boring. Why are they so popular?
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'Cause they're good at what they do, even if what they do repulses you.

The truth, I fear, is that most people are just too stupid to have their own opinion and need someone who constantly feeds them one who is never questioned or challenged on their own show. It makes them feel smart and on the correct side of the argument.
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No doubt that's a large part of it.
 
Policenaut said:
Well O'Reilly at least lets different viewpoints on his show. What is the point of a political show with no one ever disagreeing with the host? I imagine a Countdown style would play well in North Korea. I think people like Olbermann or Rush or anyone who spews garbage while their feet are never held to the fire are just boring. Why are they so popular? The truth, I fear, is that most people are just too stupid to have their own opinion and need someone who constantly feeds them one who is never questioned or challenged on their own show. It makes them feel smart and on the correct side of the argument.
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A typical KO panel that runs the gambit of the political spectrum:

Raychill Maddow, David Shuster, Jonathen Alter, Wesley Clark, Howard Fineman, Dana Milbank, Eugene Robinson, and for true insight into the political process, Jeanine Garofalo.
 
Snide said:
To satisfy an audience that doesn't want that.
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Wouldn't a visit to the Daily Cos Hacks fulfill the same requirement? What does this say about an audience that only seeks out predicable like-minded opinions with zero dissenting voices?
 
I for one am enthralled by Cicero's mighty victory over the Daily Cos, which apparently is some kind of a blog. Who knew that this titanic struggle was taking place? But now that we all know about it, let us crown Cicero with laurels and proclaim him the victor.
 
Dr Adequate said:
I for one am enthralled by Cicero's mighty victory over the Daily Cos, which apparently is some kind of a blog. Who knew that this titanic struggle was taking place? But now that we all know about it, let us crown Cicero with laurels and proclaim him the victor.
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What would we do without the Cos Hacks for such accurate reports like Trig is actually Bristol's child? You can no more emerge victorious over this blog than the Orkin Man can with Periplaneta americana.
 
Cicero said:
What would we do without the Cos Hacks for such accurate reports like Trig is actually Bristol's child? You can no more emerge victorious over this blog than the Orkin Man can with Periplaneta americana.
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There were some words in there that I recognised.
 
BenBurch said:
If you got a problem with KOS, go post over there, OK?

Because bitching about them here is unproductive.
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They would never allow for my dissenting views. They injected themselves into the Palin story so if you feel they are being unfairly attacked, I suggest you skip over these remarks.
 
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