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alien life possibility is pathetic

makaya325

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I am fully aware of everyone on the forum believing ufo's are simply man made and made up, But im talking about et life. Isnt it so ignorant and wooish to suggest that we arent the only life in the universe? Come on, does anyone see the incredibly complex events on earth that made it even POSSIBLE for the simplest of life to form? How can anyone believe it is even possible for 100's of unique events to happen just right on other planets. You need the right sun, the right planet size, the right galaxy, the right moon, etc and the list goes on and on from there. Why do many of you fall for the et life credibility?
 
What about other possible sets of conditions?

Also, I don't think these forums are noted for being the habitat of alien life advocates.
 
Actually many of us from the president of the JREF on down believe alien life is very likely.

That they've travelled here or there's ever been a shred of legitimate evidence suggesting they have? Not so much.
 
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Let me see: Ittsy-bitsy, teeny-tiny probability per planet, multiplied by... HOW MANY planets? That pretty much comes down to calculably small odds multiplied by an incalculably large number of chances.

I'd make a bet on those odds.

I just wouldn't bet too much.
 
The ultimate origin of life on Earth remains unknown. At this time it is ignorant and wooish to completely rule out abiogenesis elsewhere.
 
I sincerely believe that there could be alien life somewhere else in the universe. Maybe a microbe, maybe a plant-like thing, maybe even something as complicated as a human, but not like a human.


But aliens flying around in spaceships visiting this hunk of rock we are on? Nah.
 
Funny. Did not Nasa just discover more evidence of life on Mars?

How does that sit with your silly assertions, makaya?
 
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JFrankA said:
I sincerely believe that there could be alien life somewhere else in the universe. Maybe a microbe, maybe a plant-like thing, maybe even something as complicated as a human, but not like a human.


But aliens flying around in spaceships visiting this hunk of rock we are on? Nah.
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Your sincerity is noted. But what evidence do you have for any of these beliefs? ;)
 
There is no life on other planets. Please return to normal discussions. I will rejoin you shortly. I have to stop my penis from vibrating.
 
Gord_in_Toronto said:
Your sincerity is noted. But what evidence do you have for any of these beliefs? ;)
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Easy! I astrial projected my spirit through the ether of souls that have passed on and reside in Haley's Comet which slingshotted my semi-corporal chi to the planet Mingsorp, the only planet in the universe that Xannu hasn't conquored, and talked to Jesus there.

.....and I bet you thought I was going to give you evidence that was filled with woo!!!!!!


:D
 
YA and we dissected the little (Bleepers) to.
So have happy voyages to Earth ya little alien space travelers.
This is what happens when you mess with our cows.
 
I see it as two possibilities:

1. life can begin under many circumstances/conditions with some conditions being necessary such as possibly water or maybe some other liquid covering at least part of the planet surface and specific temperature ranges and life is abundant throughout the universe, whether or not that life evolves into and beyond something comparable to humans may be a slightly different question, I doubt a technologically advanced species could develop underwater and would we be around if the dinos hadn't died out, would the dinos have evolved into something more intelligent? Finally, would any lifeform ever be capable of interstellar travel? I have my doubts about that.

2. Life on earth is a total freak of nature and we are alone, maybe with the possibility of life here and there around the universe but very rare.
 
Please listen: The fact that life on earth was a freaking miracle proves that, despite many galaxies, alien life in no shape or form could ever exist. I would wager that 90% of members on jref would agree.
 
JFrankA said:
Easy! I astrial projected my spirit through the ether of souls that have passed on and reside in Haley's Comet which slingshotted my semi-corporal chi to the planet Mingsorp, the only planet in the universe that Xannu hasn't conquored, and talked to Jesus there.

.....and I bet you thought I was going to give you evidence that was filled with woo!!!!!!

:D
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Not at all. I was hoping for such a rational response. :bgrin:
 
makaya325 said:
You need the right sun, the right planet size, the right galaxy, the right moon, etc and the list goes on and on from there. Why do many of you fall for the et life credibility?
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Sun: Disagree. All stars will have a distance at which water can exist as a liquid and our own solar system has at least 2 examples of moons likely to have liquid water based on geological forces. In fact, I would think that our star is less than ideal in the long run due to its lifespan. I would think that being closer to a red dwarf would be better for life in the long run because it could potentially have tens of hundreds of billions of years to develop and evolve.

Planet size: Only agree a little. Obviously a gas giant poses problems for life as we know it, but Enceledus is tiny and could possibly bear life. There's no reason an Earthlike planet that was much bigger couldn't support life either. The planet in Glise that everyone was so excited about a year or two ago is about 5 times our size.

Right Galaxy: Unless you're near the center of an active galaxy, this wouldn't seem to matter much. I'm having trouble thinking of a reason that an entire galaxy would be inhospitible to life and I'm failing to come up with one.

Right moon: Disagree completely. While our moon was instrumental in evolution to live on land due to oceanic tides, I'm not aware of any reason that abiogenesis couln't have happened without a moon.
 
makaya325 said:
I am fully aware of everyone on the forum believing ufo's are simply man made and made up, But im talking about et life. Isnt it so ignorant and wooish to suggest that we arent the only life in the universe? Come on, does anyone see the incredibly complex events on earth that made it even POSSIBLE for the simplest of life to form? How can anyone believe it is even possible for 100's of unique events to happen just right on other planets. You need the right sun, the right planet size, the right galaxy, the right moon, etc and the list goes on and on from there. Why do many of you fall for the et life credibility?
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Because when you understand what life essentially amounts to, it seems absurd to believe it hasn't arisen elsewhere in some form.

Life is a series of imperfectly replicating chemical systems. There's good reason to suspect that given a range of characteristics that support complex chemical interactions, something recognisable as life has a good chance of arising. That's not woo, or faith, or hope...it's a valid speculation that isn't ruled out by any observations we have.

That it is extremely rare is of little doubt, given the reasons you've suggested. But in a universe of this size, and given that with our limited scope we've still seen incredible variety in planets, stars, ages of solar systems etc., we're only further encouraged to think the possibility is likely.

To say it is 'wooish' is to either not understand why we think this, or to not understand what makes something 'woo'.

Athon
 
makaya325 said:
Please listen: The fact that life on earth was a freaking miracle proves that, despite many galaxies, alien life in no shape or form could ever exist. I would wager that 90% of members on jref would agree.
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I'll bet a buck on that!

Start a poll!
 
makaya325 said:
Please listen: The fact that life on earth was a freaking miracle proves that, despite many galaxies, alien life in no shape or form could ever exist. I would wager that 90% of members on jref would agree.
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You'd be both wrong, and impoverished, paying off that wager!
 
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