Browne useless again: NICHOLLE MARIE COPPLER

http://www.lexisnexis.com.proxy.wex...&treeMax=true&treeWidth=0&csi=157447&docNo=24


KRISTA (Her Daughter Disappeared on May 16, 1999): I've never denied Nicole left of her own free will, but I don't think Nicole expected to get into what she found. It was a Saturday. She was supposed to be at Saturday school. She left with bookbag in hand, and at about 10:30 that morning, a friend of hers from down the street came up and said that Nicole wasn't at Saturday school. She was with a group of friends. So I had went down to where they said she was at, and she was already gone.
We had had several of her friends over the period of the next few days come and say, you know, 'She's here' or 'She's there.' We'd get there, and we'd miss her. Then she met up with a 55-year-old man, and he was already known for illegal activities. I went to his house. He denied knowing Nicole or who she was. We now know that she was there. He then transported her to a motel. That is the last known time anybody has seen her.
Unidentified Woman #5: Nicole's been gone for over three and a half years. I can't believe that if she was somewhere out there that she wouldn't be home with us. I just want to let you know, Nicole, that you are loved very, very much, and we want you home.
KRISTA: There's not a day go by you don't think about it. I'll never give up hope, though.
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WILLIAMS: Please welcome Krista to the show. This 55-year-old man was a suspect, was he not?
KRISTA: Yes. He was arrested and convicted of--well, he was charged with 44 counts of rapes of minors. He videotaped himself doing it. There was a weapons charge. He's got an extensive criminal background. He wasn't charged with Nicole, but he wa--once we got in the house, he was linked to knowing Nicole was there. There was items...
WILLIAMS: He was going to--he was going to tell you something, or at least he claimed he would tell you something, did he not?
KRISTA: Part of the plea bargain--they cut the charges down--was to tell us what happened to Nicole.
WILLIAMS: What do you think?
Ms. BROWNE: She's gone, honey.
KRISTA: Do you know where she's at?
Ms. BROWNE: Yeah, and strangely enough, she's right near his house. She...
KRISTA: Is she in his basement? Do you know?
Ms. BROWNE: Yeah, in the house or under the house or in the house.
KRISTA: Did she ever get out of the house?
Ms. BROWNE: No. No.
KRISTA: Do you know how she died?
Ms. BROWNE: Yeah, smothered. Smothered her.
KRISTA: Was he by himself? Did he do it or did he have somebody else do it?
Ms. BROWNE: There were three other young males that were there. He...
KRISTA: Do you know what they look like?
Ms. BROWNE: You knew his house was like--I hate to say this word--'crack house.' I mean, was like people coming and going and doing all kinds of crazy things. I mean, boys and girls.
KRISTA: Girls--right. He was known for prostitution, and he was transporting girls across state lines.
Ms. BROWNE: Oh, yeah. Yeah, but, I mean, he also had horrible things that he did with boys, too. So I mean, it wasn't just girls.
KRISTA: Do you know what these boys look like? Or a name or...
Ms. BROWNE: Boys were young, slender. One always wore a blue zip-up coat. His name was Kevin. The other boy was Billy. These were the two, you know, ones that were privy to this. But he was the main instigator.
KRISTA: Do you know why he killed her?
Ms. BROWNE: Yeah, because she was going to tell. You know how stubborn she was, and she had a mouth.
KRISTA: Oh, yeah.
Ms. BROWNE: She was gonna tell.
KRISTA: Sh--we had a house fire back in August, and it burnt everything from the top stories except for a photo album. Did she have something to do with that?
Ms. BROWNE: Oh, yeah. I mean, she didn't start the fire.
KRISTA: No.
Ms. BROWNE: No, no, she just saved the album.
KRISTA: Did she save that photo album?
Ms. BROWNE: Yes. Yes. Yes.
WILLIAMS: Let me take a little break. We'll be back right after this.
(Announcements)
WILLIAMS: Yes, ma'am?


http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/coppler_nicholle.html


What a sad story. Here's one more to add to the pile of cases where SB was of no help whatsoever.

How come good people like Lancester have strokes, and not swines like this woman?

Safe-Keeper said:

How come good people like Lancester have strokes, and not swines like this woman?

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Maybe there is a positive correlation between susceptibility to having a stroke and having a conscience.

Ms. BROWNE: Yeah, smothered. Smothered her.
KRISTA: Was he by himself? Did he do it or did he have somebody else do it?
Ms. BROWNE: There were three other young males that were there. He..

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As a parent, the mental images that creates are horrible. I don't understand how Browne lives with herself-inflicting that on parents. I truly don't.

My heart goes out to Nicholle's family.

Safe-Keeper said:

How come good people like Lancester have strokes, and not swines like this woman?

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As much as we all absolutely adore and respect Robert, he probably wasn't taking the best possible care of himself and that probably contributed to his stroke. Fate is not to blame there.

Then, Sylvia Browne is also obese. And, if you assume she's been smoking since her late teens or early 20s, she has been smoking for longer than Robert has been alive. And she's never had a stroke, a heart attack, cancer, nothing.

Then, she's certainly had her share of health problems, as well. Almost always travels in a wheelchair and walks with a cane, allegedly.

So there is some justice in the world, although a stroke is something you shouldn't wish on anyone. Although with her, it can be very easy to be very, very, very angry.

Like last night when QG and I discovered what she said about Chandra Levy- makes your blood boil.

Infuriating as usual.

EeneyMinnieMoe said:

Although with her, it can be very easy to be very, very, very angry.

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From my own experiences with the ones I've met, it can be very easy to be very, very, very angry, regardless, simply of the one big factor:
That they somehow feel the wrongs they do are sustained by a divine justification.

ChongLee said:

From my own experiences with the ones I've met, it can be very easy to be very, very, very angry, regardless, simply of the one big factor:
That they somehow feel the wrongs they do are sustained by a divine justification.

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I've seen little to suggest that Sylvia does this, although Jon Ronson says she is committed to religion and New Age and is very passionate about Gnosticism.

She doesn't believe in her own powers but doesn't justify it by saying "Well, I'm helping them get over their grief", either. She knows she isn't.

She rather tells herself "People this stupid deserve to be fleeced". Her ex-husband reported she told him this.

Most people who are cruel are cruel out of stupidity, carelessness, ignorance, self-righteousness, stubbornness or cluelessness rather than actual malice. The Great Gatsby, which I currently have to re-read, reminds one of this: three people end up dead because of two people's arrogance, shallowness and carelessness and the two of them still manage to half-plausibly justify themselves at the end. They didn't do it out of hate or even jealousy, they did it for their own convenience and feel no or little guilt.

Sylvia isn't ignorant, self-righteous or even stupid. Who knows how she can do this so guiltlessly. It must be just greed.

I do not disagree with you there on SB.

ChongLee said:

From my own experiences with the ones I've met,

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Here's another one. The person discussed is most likely a John South Jr. from Tennessee (the date matches and the detail of last being seen driving a car that was never found).

It's the opposite situation to the previous one. Now she's giving a son and daughter disturbing and damaging misinformation about their murdered father.


http://www.lexisnexis.com.proxy.wex...5&treeMax=true&treeWidth=0&csi=157447&docNo=8

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ANGIE (Her Dad Vanished On December 18, 1998): (From videotape) My father, John, was a hard worker. He was always helping other people. He had a big heart. One week before Christmas, we went to his house to decorate his Christmas tree, and he had vanished. That was four years ago, and we haven't seen him since. It's been horrible for my family. We know something bad has happened because he hasn't come home. We just want answers so we can stop wondering.
WILLIAMS: Please welcome Angie and her brother, Tommy, to the show. What has this been like for your family? What has this been like for your family to have to...
ANGIE: It's horrible. We're always wondering what happened, where he...
Ms. BROWNE: Please, please don't say anything. This came in so fast. I don't ever want to interrupt anybody, and you can tell me the whole story, but please let me get this out because usually I have to wait a little bit. OK. There was someone that he used to give money to by the name of Rudy. His name was Rudy. OK.
ANGIE: First name or last name?
Ms. BROWNE: No, first name.
ANGIE: First.
Ms. BROWNE: This guy was homeless. This guy was nuts. But your father felt sorry for him, OK? This guy was also part of another--I don't know. It was like--I certainly don't want to give any discrepancy to homeless people because, I mean, they're marvelous, but, I mean, this happened to be a band of people. Do you know what I mean, two or three? And they just be--they took him out because they wanted him to give them money, and he used to give them money. This time...
WILLIAMS: Is your father that kind of person?
ANGIE: Yeah. He would help anybody.
Ms. BROWNE: This time he didn't have it, and this guy, being crazy, took him out.
ANGIE: Where's his body at?
Ms. BROWNE: Strangely enough--you know, it's so amazing that you say Christmas tree, because he's buried under a tree that looks like a fir tree.
ANGIE: Near his house?
Ms. BROWNE: Yeah, near his house.
ANGIE: OK.
Ms. BROWNE: Because I can't believe that he wouldn't tell you about this guy that used to come t--and ask him for money all the time. He never told you about that?
ANGIE: No, I don't think so.
WILLIAMS: What about some of his friends? Could you--go ahead. What did you want to say?
TOMMY: I was going to ask you, do you have a description of maybe what the area looks like around?
Ms. BROWNE: The area that looks like around is flat, and then all of a sudden it gets wooded...
TOMMY: All right.
Ms. BROWNE: ...OK? You know, like, it's a clearing, and then it gets wooded. OK? And then to the northwest, it looks like there starts being, like, pine or fir trees. That's where he is, right in that area.
ANGIE: What happened to his car? They never found his car, though.
Ms. BROWNE: Because they took his car, and they drove it away. I mean, they drove it across the border. I mean, you're talking about a band of three, and they used to--see, what gets me is they used to camp out. I mean, someone in the area is gonna know who this person is. He wore a ball cap on backwards. He used to talk to himself. He drank too much, and he's always with two other companions.
TOMMY: Can you describe those other two?
Ms. BROWNE: The other two--was short and--and walked with a really, really bad limp.
TOMMY: Right, and all three of these people are homeless?
Ms. BROWNE: All three of these people knew about this.
TOMMY: Right.
Ms. BROWNE: Rudy's the one that took him out. All three of these people.
ANGIE: Will we find his body?
Ms. BROWNE: You should be able to, but see, what--what's--what--now this sounds horrible. What pleases me, it's in a shallow grave. See, if it was in deep, I'd say it's harder.
ANGIE: And you think it's close to his house?
Ms. BROWNE: Yeah. Now i--does his house--please, work with me. Does his hou--house have a clearing and then wooded?
TOMMY: Yeah.
ANGIE: Yeah.
Ms. BROWNE: OK. All right. We got that much. Are there fir trees to this side?
WILLIAMS: Fir trees, pine trees?
ANGIE: Yeah.
TOMMY: Yes, there is.
Ms. BROWNE: OK. Then I would go back in 10, 15 feet.
TOMMY: That's not much.
Ms. BROWNE: Do you see what I mean?
ANGIE: Yeah.
WILLIAMS: Have you taken dogs out? Have they taken dogs out to look for him?
ANGIE: They have--they've not really done much looking at all. At all.
Ms. BROWNE: No, they haven't done anything.
WILLIAMS: Then I'll bet you, if you think it's a sa--shallow grave...
Ms. BROWNE: Oh, it's a shallow grave. The dogs will find it.
WILLIAMS: ...the dogs could find him. So I would go in the house and get...
Ms. BROWNE: See, in water, it's harder, but in shallow graves...
WILLIAMS: And that's not that expensive of a process. You'll have to let the police do that.
Ms. BROWNE: But what you do--see, if you find this--I--I want to do follow-ups, because I get follow-ups all the time on my e-mail, but I--we gotta do follow-up on this.
TOMMY: Right.
WILLIAMS: So I would suggest getting dogs, seeing if you can hire a dog team...
TOMMY: OK.
WILLIAMS: ...and just do a scouring of that area.
Ms. BROWNE: Yeah, because like Montel says, the dogs will find him.
WILLIAMS: Yeah, especially if it's a shallow grave.
ANGIE: We had an anonymous letter sent to our family, and it's--the way you just described it was nothing like the letter, so that letter was just something bogus that was sent to us, right?
Ms. BROWNE: Oh, yeah. You know, people do the most awful things when...
ANGIE: OK.
Ms. BROWNE: Look at her shaking her head. When somebody dies, and there is a murder or whatever...
ANGIE: They were just trying to get someone else in trouble.
Ms. BROWNE: ...people do the most horrible things. You know, they'll call you on the phone and say, 'I know who did it.' I--I run into this all the time on the cases I'm working on.
WILLIAMS: We've done a couple shows about people who run scams after deaths.
Ms. BROWNE: Yeah, on--on people that die.
WILLIAMS: I gotta take a little break.
Ms. BROWNE: Horrible.
WILLIAMS: We'll answer questions when we come back.
Ms. BROWNE: Ghouls. Those are ghouls.
WILLIAMS: Let me take a little break. We'll be back right after this.
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ARGH!

If Montel ever did a "follow-up", the transcript is not available.

Edit: Now I know for sure that "John" was John South Junior. Here's a thread where the case is discussed:

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/mountain-city-tn/T78UAEJVRPPEHUR44/p2

"Did anyone watch the Montel Show where John South Jr.'s Daughter was on it a few years ago with Sylvia Browne? Sylvia said a man named "Rudy" who walked with a limp killed him! She also said he was buried on his own land. Did anybody see this show? Anyway they had a follow up story in The Tomahawk about the Montel Show."

Ms. BROWNE: You should be able to, but see, what--what's--what--now this sounds horrible. What pleases me, it's in a shallow grave. See, if it was in deep, I'd say it's harder.

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A shallow grave pleases her? If she said that to me, I'd jump onstage and poke her in the eye with her own fingernail.

She just makes me sick.

And then there is this news report.

Both it and this thread were brought to my attention by an email correspondent at StopSylvia.

RSLancastr said:

And then there is this news report.

Both it and this thread were brought to my attention by an email correspondent at StopSylvia.

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I think she's a disgusting, predatory hack, but she did get the location of the body right this time. I'd be shocked if any of the other details are correct, but the one bit that was correct will be hyped into a "She was right again!" thing.

According to my correspondent, Browne and her followers are already trumpeting it as such on Browne's web site, JP.

Sylvia Browne's claim that this is a "validation" is ridiculous for many reasons.

Timeline:
May 15, 1999 --- Nicholle Coppler was supposed to go to Saturday school, but instead met Glen Fryer. No one hears from her again and the family files a missing persons report.
1999 ---Police consider Glen Fryer their prime suspect and his house is their focus. According to police:

Search Finds No Sign Of Missing Lima Girl
‎Toledo Blade
Jun 29, 2006
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"We had heard tips about his Mom's house from the beginning," Lieutenant Keith said.

Glen Fryer, 55, was arrested Aug 30, 2001 and charged with multiple counts of rape and child pornography involving local girls.
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Lieutenant Keith said perhaps Miss Coppler s remains were buried at the Spencerville Road spot for a time, then moved. He said he hesitates to speculate, although he does consider her disappearance a murder investigation rather than a missing persons case at this point.
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August 30, 2001 --- Police arrest Glen Fryer and find videos and photographs of him raping young girls, including a picture of Jessica Lynn Miller, who was murdered in Kentucky in 2000. They also find “Coppler's ID, photos of her and a hair accessory containing her hair” in the house. He is charged with 44 counts, including rape.

February 15, 2002 --- Glen Fryer agrees to a plea deal. He pleads no contest to four counts, the rest are dropped, but he must reveal what he did with Coppler. News at the time:

Man Pleads Guilty To Child Rape Charges
‎Portsmouth Daily Times
Feb 15, 2002
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Glen Fryer, 55, could get 20 years in prison when he is sentenced . . . Fryer accepted a plea agreement Thursday. Thirty-five other charges were dropped.
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February 18, 2002 --- Glen Fryer committed suicide in jail and never gave the details about his crimes to police. The story makes national news:

FRYER DIES IN JAIL CELL
Sex offender found hung four days after pleading no contest
By Greg Sowinski
Lima News
February 19, 2002

Glen Fryer's apparent suicide Monday is the final chapter in the life of a mysterious man some believe died holding the secrets to several unsolved cases.

Some believe the 55-year-old Lima man had his ex-wife killed in 1980 and also played a role in the 1999 disappearance of teen-ager Nicholle Coppler.

"So much died with him," said Jean Shartzer, one of the attorneys who represented Fryer in his most recent criminal case.
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Besides the Coppler case, the 1980 murder of Fryer's ex-wife, 30-year-old Connie Ferenczi, left unanswered questions. Fryer was never charged in the slaying and a man named Richard Arthur was acquitted by a jury.

Testimony at Arthur's trial suggested Fryer hired Arthur to kill his ex-wife.
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November 27, 2002 ---Krista Coppler, Nicholle’s mother, appears with Sylvia Browne on Montel Williams.
[Nearly ten years go by after the Browne reading, showing how unhelpful it was to the family.]
February 2012 --- Nicholle Coppler’s remains are found in the "crawlspace" of Fryer’s home. According to the Daily Mail:

'I knew in my heart she never left that house': Remains of runaway girl, 14, found in rapist's basement during demolition 13 YEARS after she disappeared
By Louise Boyle
Daily Mail
20 February 2012

The skeletal remains of a 14-year-old runaway, who went missing in 1999, have been found after the home where she was last seen was demolished, according to police.

The remains of Nicholle Coppler were found in a crawl space as the home's foundations were being dug out on Saturday.
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Miss Coppler was last seen on May 15, 1999 and was known to be in the company of Fryer in June.
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It is believed she may have been forced into prostitution by Fryer and was killed when she refused to comply.

According to the Charley Project, which investigates cold cases, Miss Coppler's diary was also found at the home, which Fryer shared with his mother.

In the last entries, the teenager reportedly said she was sorry for running away and wanted to go back to her family - but that the people she was with wouldn't let her leave.
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Before being convicted of rape, Fryer, a Vietnam veteran, was believed to have been involved in the murder of his ex-wife Connie Ferenczi.
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March 2012---Sylvia Browne’s website claims her reading of Krista Coppler is a "validation." Sylvia Browne’s website, without analyses, writes:

Webcast Previews: A validation on a prediction made 11 years ago
March 29, 2012

Sylvia Browne's prediction on The Montel Williams Show

I want to send a special thank you to Kayla in Lima, OH who called my office recently to validate a prediction I made on the Montel Williams show approximately 11 years ago. Krista Coppler the mother of Nicholle Coppler appeared on the show asking me about the whereabouts of her missing daughter. I told her she was no longer alive and could be located in or under the house and that the person who killed her was also involved with both young boys and girls. Sadly, Nicole's remains were found in the house last month when the city of Lima tore down Glen Fryer's property. My prayers and deepest condolences go out to Krista and her family.

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(If anyone can, please save the video of this reading that appears on Browne's website. This is only "validation" under Browne's website videos, which should tell her supporters something.)

Now we've established what was known before the reading, let’s examine Browne's statements line-by-line:

Montel Williams transcript on November 27 said:

WILLIAMS: Please welcome Krista to the show. This 55-year-old man was a suspect, was he not?
KRISTA: Yes. He was arrested and convicted of--well, he was charged with 44 counts of rapes of minors. He videotaped himself doing it. There was a weapons charge. He's got an extensive criminal background. He wasn't charged with Nicole, but he wa--once we got in the house, he was linked to knowing Nicole was there. There was items...
WILLIAMS: He was going to--he was going to tell you something, or at least he claimed he would tell you something, did he not?
KRISTA: Part of the plea bargain--they cut the charges down--was to tell us what happened to Nicole.

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OK, so Krista makes clear that Fryer was the main suspect, had a criminal history and was supposed to tell police what happened to her daughter.

Montel Williams transcript on November 27 said:

WILLIAMS: What do you think?
BROWNE: She's gone, honey.
KRISTA: Do you know where she's at?
BROWNE: Yeah, and strangely enough, she's right near his house. She...

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Before this, Fryer had convictions for violent crimes and he was the suspect in his wife, Connie Ferenczi's murder in the 1980s.

After three years and given all the evidence found in Fryer’s house, that he was last one to see Nicholle and evidence linked him to another murdered teenager, saying Nicholle is dead seems very likely. Her mother and police believed she was likely dead even though they didn't have her body.

Montel Williams transcript on November 27 said:

KRISTA: Is she in his basement? Do you know?
BROWNE: Yeah, in the house or under the house or in the house.

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Note that Krista brought up the basement. In a classic case of cold reading, Browne seized on the information the subject brought up and said “yeah.”

Montel Williams transcript on November 27 said:

KRISTA: Did she ever get out of the house?
BROWNE: No. No.
KRISTA: Do you know how she died?
BROWNE: Yeah, smothered. Smothered her.

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Unknown what happened. No evidence. Police think she was alive at his house until June. Did she leave the house, even initially?

Montel Williams transcript on November 27 said:

KRISTA: Was he by himself? Did he do it or did he have somebody else do it?
BROWNE: There were three other young males that were there. He...
KRISTA: Do you know what they look like?
BROWNE: You knew his house was like--I hate to say this word--'crack house.' I mean, was like people coming and going and doing all kinds of crazy things. I mean, boys and girls.
KRISTA: Girls--right. He was known for prostitution, and he was transporting girls across state lines.
BROWNE: Oh, yeah. Yeah, but, I mean, he also had horrible things that he did with boys, too. So I mean, it wasn't just girls.
KRISTA: Do you know what these boys look like? Or a name or...
BROWNE: Boys were young, slender. One always wore a blue zip-up coat. His name was Kevin. The other boy was Billy. These were the two, you know, ones that were privy to this. But he was the main instigator.
KRISTA: Do you know why he killed her?
BROWNE: Yeah, because she was going to tell. You know how stubborn she was, and she had a mouth.
KRISTA: Oh, yeah.

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Absolutely no evidence of any of this. No evidence of other people involved and keep in mind he filmed and photographed his crimes. No mention of a Kevin or Billy in any news reports (How come she never gives last names?). No Kevin, no Billy or anyone else found linked to the crime in the last 13 years.

Was she killed because she would “tell”? Maybe. Police had the girl's diary since 2001, which shows she wanted to leave. Nonetheless, Fryer's motives for the murder are unknown.

So the potentially verifiable claims on the crime from Browne are:

1) “She's gone, honey.” Correct, but very likely.
2) “she's right near his house.” Incorrect, she was found inside the home's “crawl space” (note this is the source Browne’s page linked to.)
3) In the “basement.” Incorrect, she was found in the “crawl space” (note this is the source Browne’s page linked to.)
4) “Under the house.” Incorrect, she was found in the “crawl space” (note this is the source Browne’s page linked to.)
5) "In" the house. Correct.
6) Did not get out of the house. Unknown.
7) “Smothered.” Unknown.
8) Help from “three males.” Unknown.
9) A “Kevin” and a “Billy.” Unknown.
10) Killed for “telling.” Unknown.

So out of everything Browne said, she was correct two of ten claims: Nicholle Coppler was dead and her body was “in the house.”

QG that's a great analysis. Thanks for doing that.

Browne got lucky on the house thing. She was technically wrong as you pointed out (nice work BTW), but close enough that her fans would give her credit for a hit.

I also notice that she pulls young boys into the scenario, including on her own web site now. Doesn't it seem clearly stated that this involved girls only? Looking through all of what we have here, I can't find any mention at all of anything that would indicate he was involved with boys (?). Granted, there may be no way to know for certain that boys weren't involved, but it seems unlikely based on the fact that girls, and only girls, are ever mentioned. So isn't this basically another "miss?" Calling it "unknown" based on all that has been reported here seems too generous.

ExMinister said:

QG that's a great analysis. Thanks for doing that.

Browne got lucky on the house thing. She was technically wrong as you pointed out (nice work BTW), but close enough that her fans would give her credit for a hit.

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No problem. I saw the claim on her website and watched the video a while back. I figured it wasn't even worth responding because the claims Browne made seemed so clearly drawn from what was known in Montel's video. Surely, her fans could see that?

Then I saw this thread and Robert mention that her supporters are citing it.

ExMinister said:

I also notice that she pulls young boys into the scenario, including on her own web site now. Doesn't it seem clearly stated that this involved girls only? Looking through all of what we have here, I can't find any mention at all of anything that would indicate he was involved with boys (?). Granted, there may be no way to know for certain that boys weren't involved, but it seems unlikely based on the fact that girls, and only girls, are ever mentioned. So isn't this basically another "miss?" Calling it "unknown" based on all that has been reported here seems too generous.

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You're absolutely right. It seems highly unlikely and could be called a miss. My thinking though is whether a miss or unknown, it still means Browne wasn't "validated."

QG:

Yes, the Timeline is always key when researching a prediction. This one seemed hinky to me at first glance, but I hadn't yet taken the time to write it all out - thanks for doing so.

I will definitely be writing an article about this for SSB when I can, and I will again be mentioning you and EMM in the Acknowledgements, as well as the (unnamed) correspondent.

-RSL

Safe-Keeper said:

How come good people like Lancester have strokes, and not swines like this woman?

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Because there is no god.

RSLancastr said:

Yes, the Timeline is always key when researching a prediction. This one seemed hinky to me at first glance, but I hadn't yet taken the time to write it all out - thanks for doing so.

I will definitely be writing an article about this for SSB when I can, and I will again be mentioning you and EMM in the Acknowledgements, as well as the (unnamed) correspondent.

-RSL

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Looking forward to it.

The video of this exchange is at: http://www.sylviabrowne.com/pg/jsp/media/videoplayer.jsp?pid=7637

Maybe someone can save it in case it gets taken down.