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Old 25th February 2009, 09:21 AM   #1
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Herndon (ATCSCC) Phone Audios Available

Monday I received a 19 DVD archive of the FAA Herndon operations phone line recordings from 9/11. It took a day to get the wav files extracted from the archive and I am now in the process of separating the left channel (communications portion) to mp3 files and uploading them to AAL77.COM. Several people are already working on listening to them as they are uploaded, but it is a monumental task so I wanted to start a thread so that others can start the process of listening to them.

From a purely historical viewpoint, they are a goldmine of information. From the CT standpoint, this is what the "twoofers" have been waiting for, the truth of what happened from the FAA central command perspective.

It will take some time before all of the files are converted and uploaded, but there are enough on the site now to keep everyone busy for awhile.

Just a note for FYI. I am also looking for deletions or redactions as I process the audios. So far, no evidence of tampering or redaction observed (sorry "twoofers").
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Old 25th February 2009, 09:38 AM   #2
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You received these from the perp and you don't think that they have been edited?
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You received these from the perp and you don't think that they have been edited?
Thanks Bobert, and that is the point. It don't matter what I think or believe. There is NO EVIDENCE of tampering thus far. Sorta like the tooth fairy plane that flew NoC.
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I just wanted to update our progress. I'm still working on converting the files to mp3 and uploading them. MikeW has taken the lead on the initial survey and we are learning some interesting things which I'm sure we will post on after more indepth review. Some of you have expressed interest in helping with the detailed review. Please PM MikeW and he'll be more than happy to put you to work
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The uploading of the Herndon files is complete, 130 in all. I'm starting work on the NYC Tracon audios now. Hopefully we'll have some feedback on Herndon soon.
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Old 27th February 2009, 12:06 PM   #7
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You must be a shill. How else could you get access to this information that clearly the NWO has been hiding for fear of investigooglers uncovering their plot.

SHILL!!!!

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There is this branch of government called the Judicial Branch. When the Executive Branch tries to cover-up its activities, there is this little law enacted by the Legislative Branch called the Freedom of Information Act. If the Executive fails to respond to requests made under this legislation, then a citizen can go to the Judicial Branch and have them ordered to respond.

I am a citizen and I went to the Judicial Branch. Some folks over on the CT side of things just like to talk trash when a little actual work goes a long way.

Just call me a special NWO shill
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your "special" cheque is in the mail agent911.

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I am listening to the last one on your site:

5 DCC 1941 Ops phone 5156 Position 6 1415-1515 UTC.mp3

And will report back on what I hear.
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Hmmm. So what is this strange and wonderful thing you call Investigatingtm, 911files? It must be new. It appears your novell concept includes actually getting information from places other than Google and YouTube? My goodness. Perhaps we can entice these truthers to try to perform this Investigatingtm you speak of.

I realize the truthers may have not heard of it yet, but if they attempt it, I am confident this Investigatingtm could catch on.
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Here's my summary of the conversation with times on the MP3 file. Basically this was an open line with multiple people from various ATC centers on it intended to just facilitate the flow of information. The most common situation was for one of the centers to say, "Command Center, this is Washington Center." The Command Center manager would respond, "Go ahead Washington Center." I have stripped those formalities out and abbreviated the questions and answers while trying to maintain the gist and the actual words. Most of the time it was questions and answers, so where there is an immediate response to the question assume it was delivered by the Command Center manager.

Where there is no identified speaker, it is the Command Center manager (apparently named Doug) who is speaking.

Interesting parts? Notice how long it takes the military to get the planes in the air to escort Air Force One. At 720 they are requested to provide an escort. At 5230, three quarters of an hour later, they still have not been able to take off. Now we see why the plane that actually gave the escort was on a training mission over the Gulf of Mexico.

Note also the instructions to the send the Atlantic City fighters on whatever their programmed route is during an emergency. 90 for 90 anybody?

There is some discussion of Flight 77 from 2830 to 3230. Anybody know what the mysterious November 4 plane that gets clearance to land in Washington is?

5 DCC 1941 Ops phone 5156 Position 6 1415-1515 UTC.mp3

Voiceover: Continuation of Position six, strategic planning team. 1415-1515

025: SoCal: Light flights keep on ground? Yes
050: Oakland confirms above
158: Announces O'Hare not an option, tower evacuated. Request Oakland issue notum to that effect. Request info on any other airports cannot be used.
251 KC: Albuquerque and Denver are saying landing is optional. Confirms not optional, Denver and Albuquerque copy.
340 KC: Airborne military flights can continue? Yes. Can they take off? Yes.
405 LA: Confirm international notum going out. Yes, Oakland to issue a notum.
425 Denver: Lifeguard flights can or cannot go? Cannot.
440 Anchorage: Confirm Tokyo flights must return to Tokyo? Not confirmed will check.
500 Seattle: Canadian flights allowed to leave Canada? No. What about handoffs? (There does not appear to be a response to this).
540 NEADS: What can we do with the fighters in the air? Checking with the military cell right now. Status of commercial air carriers—grounded? Yes. Military fighters can go as needed? Yes. Tanker in Memphis’ airspace, a C-40, needed diverted “up here”, asks if Memphis Center can confirm. Memphis Center does not respond despite several requests.
720 Requests military to provide escort for Air Force One. Working on it.
740 Miami: International flights should turn around. Unless they don’t have enough fuel.
820 Announces that no airports should refuse diverted aircraft.
855 Military requests confirmation as to where AF1 is. Florida. Ground or airborne? Airborne, in Jacksonville airspace.
935 Military: Two F-15s departing Langley immediately to escort AF1, need exact position.
955 Unknown: Is this a secure line?
1005 Jax?: Unsecure line, does not want to give position of AF1.
1030 Will have the military contact Langley.
1050 Denver: Centennial Airport closed South of Denver. Reason given? No?
1110 Miami: Refuse handoffs from small countries nearby? Port au Prince Haiti mentioned. Yes.
1140 NEADS: Request Miami call on secure line to give postion of AF1. Military cell handling.
1230 Unknown: Tokyo flights to turn around? If they can.
1310 Unknown: Complains that this will set up unsafe situation. Do the best you can.
1350 Requests Washington Center provide status of Dulles, Baltimore and National. Washington Center: Dulles and National are in lockdown; nothing in, nothing out, not sure on Baltimore. Requests check.
1420 Unknown: Requests call signs of fighters that departed Langley. NEADS: Not airborne yet, will get call signs.
1500 NEADS: Call signs of F-15s out of Langley are Force One, flight of two, actually it will be flight of four, two will be heading south to intercept AF1
1530 New York Center: Boston center will not accept military flights. Requests Boston Center (not acknowledged).
1600 Washington: Confirms Baltimore also closed.
(Long period of silence)
1825 Boston: Boston Center evacuated because of a “report”. Has not resolved situation with military flight.
1840 Denver: (Difficult to hear) Do you want us to have someone monitor this line? Yes.
1905 Requests if Boston is going “ATC-Zero”? “Yeah, we’re done, we’re leaving. Someone will be here, though we’ll leave this open.”
1915 LA: Fire Department Aircraft? That’s search and rescue, they can go.
1940 Seattle: Should they shut down “FR” airports? (no response yet)
1955 NEADS: Is NORAD headquarters on this bridge? No. Okay to have them join? Yes.
2023 Says VFR airports, no, nothing we can do about that yet. Seattle: TY.
2040 Says notum coming shortly shutting down even the VFR airports.
2240 Pages Boston Center. Have they evacuated? Boston Center: “There’s about five of us.”
2340 Indy: Female broadcasting on Elkins radio frequency 122.6 demanding that all aircraft land or be shot down.
2520 Requests Albuquerque to keep line open.
2530 Brian from SW Region: FYI, bridge is full, so if you want to invite more people in, get techs to add lines to the bridge.
2545 Washington: Request ND confirm on line. ND confirmed.
2630 Says if anybody trying to get into Telcon, call normal lines and they will patch them in.
2655 Requests Cleveland Center. No response
2705 Requests Washington Center. Still on.
2715 Miami: Heard about Boston and O'Hare evacs; is that something he needs to be looking into? No further information.
2750 Chicago: Lot of VFR’s in our area, should we get them down? Yes.
2835 Requests KC check if anybody’s talking to American 77.
2845 Washington: Delaware State Police able to fly in an emergency? Yes.
2900 KC: No contact with American 77. Do they have a track on him? No, data block only. Have not had a target on him at all.
3025 Indy: American 77, the aircraft that we lost at 35000, still unconfirmed, we have an unconfirmed crash site in Ashland, Kentucky.
3100 Cleveland: Checks in, no response.
3230 KC: Completed broadcast for American 77 on all frequencies with no success.
(Long period of silence).
3625 NEADS: Any idea how many aircraft are still in the air? Working on it.
3650 Requests Boston Center status. Four air traffic people, nobody out in the area.
3700 Indy: Are you still receiving transmissions on 122.6? Will check.
3710 Denver: Which center shut down? Boston.
3720 Boston: Probably going outside, nothing they can do there. If you have to get out, get out.
3735 Tells NEADS about 460 “targets” up in domestic airspace.
3745 Checks for NORAD on the bridge? No response.
3755 NY: Military flight mentioned earlier will go VFR into Bangor, but they don’t want to be scrambled on. Unknown: They will be scrambled on.
3810 Asks NEADS for confirmation regarding scrambling. NEADS asks for tail numbers of flight.
3900: NY: Tail numbers are GOLD99 and MAGDA41-44. NEADS asks is it some A-10s and a tanker. NY: Correct.
4020 Memphis: Checking in.
4025 Indy: Not receiving that broadcast now.
4040 Washington: Picked up a US Air coming out of Philly. Did he go to Memphis?
4200 NEADS asks if that’s a new flight or what, but Washington Center is off the line.
4215 Says that the plane from Philly had been holding in the air for two hours, it was not a new flight.
4300 Unknown: Reports that media are reporting that people can expect normal air traffic by 5:00 PM. Unconfirmed.
4320 Indy: America 644 overdue by half an hour—is it on the ground somewhere?
4415 Reports that there is no current scheduled time for resuming operations.
4420 Denver: Requests confirmation of that last bit. No current schedule for resuming operations. Denver: DIA is closed for 24 hours.
4500 Washington: November 4 okay to pass through Washington area? Yes, but not to land in DC, Richmond is the closest.
4545 Denver Tower: Last arrival is on the ground, they are “out of business at this point.”
4550 Checks with Denver Center to see if they have all their planes handled. Denver Center: Not sure. Chatter about whether Denver Airport is closed, Denver Tower says they still have staff on site, but their last plane is down.
4705 NEADS: Confirm Cleveland Center evacuated? Yes, suspicious aircraft over the center, they are evacuating.
4800 Indy: Is Cleveland executing ATC-Zero event?
4815 Oakland: Firefighting aircraft can they go? Yes.
4830 Cleveland: Reporting on situation. Small aircraft reported by local police over their facility, they have a minimum staff now. Can handle small amounts of traffic, but should be put at ATC-Zero.
4930 Unknown (Washington?) November 4 aircraft is requesting military escort and says he has approval to land at DCA(Reagan National Airport in DC).
4955 Seattle: Three oceanic flights coming inbound (sound tails off).
5005 Says “I couldn’t hear you, say again?”
5020 Seattle: Three oceanic flights coming inbound, but Bangor nuclear base is requesting 30 mile offlimits which would close the airport. Can they divert the planes to Vancouver, BC? Yes.
5042 Unknown: Tells Indy Center to tell November 4 plane to continue towards Richmond while they are checking with authorities.
5100 KC: Once airspace is cleared should we evacuate? Will check.
5140 Vancouver Center joins call.
5200 Salt Lake City: Lifeguard aircraft waiting for departure. (Voice in background: There’s several that are missing). Not yet.
5220 Brian from Southwest: Could you issue a notum so that we can show it to people when they want to take off? There should be a notum already.
5230 NEADS: Washington Center holding Force 1 aircraft, they need to be released immediately. Washington Center advised to release Force 1.
5250 Cleveland: Medevacs cleared to fly? No, no lifeguard flights.
5320 Unknown: Says conflict with other conference call where they are being told medevacs are cleared.
5340 Says military medevacs can go, not civilian.
5400 Requests confirmation from Washington Center that Force 1 has been released. Confirmed.
5420 NEADS requests that the flights out of Rickenbacker, Atlantic City and Langley be cleared.
5440 NEADS asks what to do with fighters from Atlantic City. Let them go on whatever route they have programmed.
5455 Denver: Air Force base wants to know if the military training flights can take off? Training flights weren’t what they had in mind when they ok’d military and law enforcement flights. Essential military flights only.
5530 Washington: November 4 flight still programmed for National; need a decision. Working on it.
5555 Vancouver: Can’t stay on this line, need to go to a secure line, can they call back? Gives out secure phone number.
5647: Unknown: November 4 plane cleared to land in Washington. Washington Center: He is demanding an escort, is that on its way? The request has been passed.
5715: Says any aircraft that are authorized to fly must be on a discrete code or they will be scrambled on.
5730 Checks to see if NORAD on line yet. Appears to be on a secure line.
5800 Indy: Any info on American 644?
5815 NEADS: Still looking for location to intercept AFO.
5850 KC: Has not seen American 644.
5910 National Guard: Trying to get a flight released from Rochester. Tells him to call the other number.
6000: Reports to NEADS that somebody is giving them that position now on the secure line.

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Old 27th February 2009, 08:57 PM   #13
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Wow, one down and 129 to go Good job. I beleive Nov 4 was the Attorney General's plane, but I would have to check with MikeW on that to be 100%.
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Here's my summary of the conversation with times on the MP3 file.

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Great work Brainster.

Just to let people know I've transcribed

5 DCC 1902 OPS PHONE 5104 POSITION 4 1315-1415 UTC

Perhaps people can post the file ID's here to avoid duplication?

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November 4 was Ashcroft's flight, yes. If you could ever describe anything on 9/11 as "funny" then this might fit, as the FAA say "you must land here", and he has repeated "do you know who I am?" spells until he gets back home.

bonavada has done stellar work! I'm sending his transcript across to 911files where it deserves special highlighting for explaining one important tape in great detail (one that covered a teleconference where the FAA started asking for reports of suspect planes, and first heard about Flight 93).

If anyone else wants to help out then you'll need advice on tape numbers, because quite a few of these are blank or repetitions of other positions, so you could download something else and find it's a repeat of the one Brainster's listed before, for instance. I'll make a list of interesting targets & post it in a while.
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As 911files said, the tapes are at http://aal77.com/faa/herndon.htm

And these might be particularly interesting to transcribe:

5 DCC 1903 Ops phone 5105 Position 5 1315-1415 UTC.mp3 (a few Flight 93 things)

5 DCC 1903 Ops phone 5105 Position 5 1415-1515 UTC.mp3 (looking for Flight 77)

5 DCC 1911 Ops phone 5154 Position 14 1215-1315 UTC.mp3 (first reports on Flight 11)

5 DCC 1912 Ops phone 5115 Position 15 1315-1415 UTC.mp3 (Flight 175, FBI, Flight 93, Delta 1989 - very long but very important)

5 DCC 1915 Ops phone 5118 Position 8B 1415-1515 UTC.mp3 (FAA teleconference with the main airlines. What do they know, when do they know it?)

5 DCC 1927 Ops phone 5134 Position 34 1315-1415 UTC.mp3 (Early report on Flight 77)

5 DCC 1936 Ops phone 5149 Position 34B 1315-1415 UTC.mp3 (references to all four hijacked flights)

Post here if you would like to do a transcript, just to let everyone know which tape you're taking on.

If you don't have time to analyse a tape, but would just like to hear why these records matter, then try one of these (both are, or are being transcribed so no need to write them up):

5 DCC 1923 Ops phone 5128 Position 28 1215-1315 UTC.mp3 (Boston shares what they know about Flight 11, they react to the news of something hitting the WTC, speculate what's going on, react to the second impact, more)

5 DCC 1902 OPS PHONE 5104 POSITION 4 1315-1415 UTC.mp3 (the FAA begin to get organised, hold a teleconference where they're telling people to look for suspect planes, receive a first report of Flight 93, more)

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5 DCC 1912 Ops phone 5115 Position 15 1315-1415 UTC.mp3 (Flight 175, FBI, Flight 93, Delta 1989 - very long but very important)
I'll tackle that one if nobody else has volunteered.
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I'll tackle that one if nobody else has volunteered.
It's all yours!
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Hmmm. So what is this strange and wonderful thing you call Investigatingtm, 911files? It must be new. It appears your novell concept includes actually getting information from places other than Google and YouTube? My goodness. Perhaps we can entice these truthers to try to perform this Investigatingtm you speak of.

I realize the truthers may have not heard of it yet, but if they attempt it, I am confident this Investigatingtm could catch on.
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Currently listening in on 5 DCC 1915 Ops phone 5118 Position 8B 1415-1515 UTC.mp3

Sounds like there was a fair amount of 'lost' flights along the way, but I'll see if I can get a transcript going.
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Currently listening in on 5 DCC 1915 Ops phone 5118 Position 8B 1415-1515 UTC.mp3

Sounds like there was a fair amount of 'lost' flights along the way, but I'll see if I can get a transcript going.
Thanks! What's most interesting there is anything that tells us about the FAA's or the airlines awareness of which flights were hijacked, and where they were. Although it's useful to hear about the non-hijacked "missing" flights, too, as some of them caused issues of their own (Delta 1989).
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Sounds like some of the airlines were out of the loop. At one point, Southwest calls in asking for the location of one their flights, since their system wasn't showing it airborne but they hadn't heard from it.

At another point, United is calling in for one of their flights, to which US Airways lets him (ie United) know that it's circling over Philadelphia to lose fuel before landing.

As for Delta 1989 it's mentioned along the way as being safely on the ground in Cleveland.
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For some context on this, see this new document in my 9/11 Commission series. It's a Commission transcript of a line between the FAA at Herndon and the Washington Operations Centre, which means it involves some senior people and gives us a good idea about who knew what, and when.
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Two updates.

MikeW's File Notes - Serves as a very useful index to the audios and contents
5 DCC 1902 OPS PHONE 5104 POSITION 4 1315-1415 UTC transcript - Compiled by Bonavada
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Feel free to post my transcript there as well, Mr Files. I'm about halfway through with the second one; lots going on here. Looks like on this line they were talking about phantom flight 175, not 11.
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Completed transcript.

5 DCC 1941 Ops phone 5156 Position 6 1415-1515 UTC transcript - Compiled by Brainster
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Another fine transcript by Bonavada.

5 DCC 1923 Ops phone 5128 Position 28 1215-1315 UTC.pdf
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