Question for those demanding serial numbers...

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If the aircraft parts found at the Pentagon were not from AA77, then where did they come from, and how did they get there?


Answers such as "well that's why we need a new investigation" are not acceptable answers because 1) all of the people who have the power to bring about a new investigation are already satisfied with the existing ones, and 2) serial numbers of specific parts aren't normally used to identify aircraft anyway, which means that the demand for serial numbers implies that the person making the demand believes the vast amounts of other forms of evidence which identify the plane are all either faked or insufficient due to some anomaly. Both such implications require evidence to support them.
 
1337m4n said:
If the aircraft parts found at the Pentagon were not from AA77, then where did they come from, and how did they get there?


Answers such as "well that's why we need a new investigation" are not acceptable answers because 1) all of the people who have the power to bring about a new investigation are already satisfied with the existing ones, and 2) serial numbers of specific parts aren't normally used to identify aircraft anyway, which means that the demand for serial numbers implies that the person making the demand believes the vast amounts of other forms of evidence which identify the plane are all either faked or insufficient due to some anomaly. Both such implications require evidence to support them.
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Of course they won't be pigeon holed into that argument. Cognitive dissonance is a mutha.
 
I don't think they believe that they need to answer that.

In their epistemology, if they can show that our knowledge of 9/11 is not complete to the point of having an iMax film of each aircraft from take off to crash, that we can't prove what happened, and that therefore they are correct that it was a nefarious Illuminati plot.
 
BenBurch said:
I don't think they believe that they need to answer that.

In their epistemology, if they can show that our knowledge of 9/11 is not complete to the point of having an iMax film of each aircraft from take off to crash, that we can't prove what happened, and that therefore they are correct that it was a nefarious Illuminati plot.
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That's pretty accurate, they think everything should fit neatly in nice little package. Unfortunately, that's not how the real world works. In fact, if all the evidence did fit perfectly, then I would be suspcious.
 
TexasJack said:
That's pretty accurate, they think everything should fit neatly in nice little package. Unfortunately, that's not how the real world works. In fact, if all the evidence did fit perfectly, then I would be suspcious.
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I love the way they're left speechless when you ask why, if serial numbers are commonly found, their imaginary conspiracy didn't supply them.
 
Grizzly Bear said:
I tried getting the one's participating to answer something similar, apparently the results were the same....
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Proof they love trolling. They really seem to enjoy the attention. Take Christopher7, once ULTIMA1 went on his massive troll-spree, Christopher7 went back into his cave. ULTIMA1 didn't save any troll food for the rest.
 
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1337m4n said:
If the aircraft parts found at the Pentagon were not from AA77, then where did they come from, and how did they get there?
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Could be another aircraft even if there are parts.

Maybe there were no parts.

Do you have parts somewhere?

How many parts were found? How many plane parts disintegrated when it's claimed all but one passenger was identified?

Do you have an accounting somewhere?

Of parts?

Yeah I'm just JAQing off. Trying to keep with the theme here.
 
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Homeland Insurgency said:
Could be another aircraft even if there are parts.

Maybe there were no parts.

Do you have parts somewhere?

How many parts were found? How many plane parts disintegrated when it's claimed all but one passenger was identified?

Do you have an accounting somewhere?

Of parts?

Yeah I'm just JAQing off. Trying to keep with the theme here.
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Which does nothing to answer the OP- "where did they come from, and how did they get there?

It's OK. Nobody wants to answer that one it would seem.
 
Homeland Insurgency said:
Could be another aircraft even if there are parts.
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A couple hundred people saw ONE plane hit the pentagon. Nobody saw morethan one.

Maybe there were no parts.

Do you have parts somewhere?

How many parts were found? How many plane parts disintegrated when it's claimed all but one passenger was identified?

Do you have an accounting somewhere?

Of parts?
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400 pages of detail. Yes. I've read it.

Book: _Firefight: Inside the Battle to Save the Pentagon on 9/11_
150 interviews with participants and eye-witnesses
 
BigAl said:
A couple hundred people saw ONE plane hit the pentagon. Nobody saw morethan one.
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The impression I got out of both Ultima and HI is that they mean that the parts "could have been from another plane" that hit the building rather than 77. They seem to reject making any kind of claims despite implying so through their objection to their being sufficient evidence to ID 77...
 
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Homeland Insurgency said:
Yes Big Al. But which one?
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You can't refute RADAR with evidence and you don't understand RADAR evidence. An anti-intellectual double-hitter. This is the plane; proof by RADAR.
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You choose to remain in ignorance; you have the right to post your delusions, remain free of knowledge and be void of evidence. You prove this continuously with each post.

Now you will post your retort and prove your ignorance on this topic again.

911TruthLies - 7 years of no evidence delusions.

Carry on with your zero evidence anti-intellectual trolling.

So where did the parts come from? You failed to answer the OP, yet I did. Why are you unable to help understand 911? How did the parts get there? I answered this too and 911TruthLies can't due to ignorance on the topic. 911TruthLies don't know where the parts came from because no one in 911TruthLies has figured out this yet.
 
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AJM8125 said:
No HI. The question in this thread is "If the aircraft parts found at the Pentagon were not from AA77, then where did they come from, and how did they get there?"
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Well if there was only a handful then I guess they could have been there already. We are talking about "If" right?

So?

How may were found?
 
Homeland Insurgency said:
Well if there was only a handful then I guess they could have been there already. We are talking about "If" right?

So?

How may were found?
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See, you were on topic and then you had to go and try to take it in another direction.

"If the aircraft parts found at the Pentagon were not from AA77, then where did they come from, and how did they get there?"

"How many" doesn't enter into it.
 
Homeland Insurgency said:
Well if there was only a handful then I guess they could have been there already. We are talking about "If" right?

So?

How may were found?
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Instead of asking questions that have no bearing on the topic, try to counter an argument you disagree with. It'll make your time here more productive.
 
AJM8125 said:
See, you were on topic and then you had to go and try to take it in another direction.

"If the aircraft parts found at the Pentagon were not from AA77, then where did they come from, and how did they get there?"

"How many" doesn't enter into it.
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Someone asked how the parts got there.

Well? I think how many is very relevant.

What are we talking about?

I do know that if (and I do mean "if") in the part of the Pentagon that was under construction they already had a piece of landing gear and maybe one engine and then shot that part of the pentagon with a missile or something else then that one engine and piece of landing gear not matched to anything would be enough for you.

I mean what did you need for Shanksville? Half a dumpster?

So how many and then I can answer the op better and not have to use my imagination like you.

And while you're at it?

How many parts disintegrated?

For extra credit:

How many parts were retrieve from all the 9/11 attack locations all together?

Could it even reconstruct half a plane?
 
Homeland Insurgency said:
Someone asked how the parts got there.

Well? I think how many is very relevant.

What are we talking about?

I do know that if (and I do mean "if") in the part of the Pentagon that was under construction they already had a piece of landing gear and maybe one engine and then shot that part of the pentagon with a missile or something else then that one engine and piece of landing gear not matched to anything would be enough for you.
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All your questions answered.


Book: _Firefight: Inside the Battle to Save the Pentagon on 9/11_
150 interviews with participants and eye-witnesses
 
Homeland Insurgency said:
Someone asked how the parts got there.

Well? I think how many is very relevant.

What are we talking about?

I do know that if (and I do mean "if") in the part of the Pentagon that was under construction they already had a piece of landing gear and maybe one engine and then shot that part of the pentagon with a missile or something else then that one engine and piece of landing gear not matched to anything would be enough for you.

I mean what did you need for Shanksville? Half a dumpster?

So how many and then I can answer the op better and not have to use my imagination like you.

And while you're at it?

How many parts disintegrated?

For extra credit:

How many parts were retrieve from all the 9/11 attack locations all together?

Could it even reconstruct half a plane?
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It isn't relevant to this thread. If you feel that strongly about it then start your own thread. The question being asked in this thread is:

"If the aircraft parts found at the Pentagon were not from AA77, then where did they come from, and how did they get there?"

ETA: Just Keeping this thread on topic until 1337m4n gets here.
 
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AJM8125 said:
It isn't relevant to this thread. If you feel that strongly about it then start your own thread. The question being asked in this thread is:

"If the aircraft parts found at the Pentagon were not from AA77, then where did they come from, and how did they get there?"
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If it's one little part like the unsourced picture with the numbers on it thrown around here sometimes for lack of anything else then maybe it was just thrown on the lawn.

If it's one piece of landing gear or one engine well maybe they were in the part of the Pentagon that was under construction already before anything blew up.

This is "what if" right?

Maybe the janitor or some other low level Pentagon employee was told to unload and put them there and was also killed in the attack later on.

What if...?

So what?

It's just as good as any story you got.

Now.

How many parts from 9/11 all together?

Does any debunker know?

Would all the parts from all the attacks even fill one dumpster? One and a half?

Did they need to pay for two dumpsters?

That's some vast conspiracy.
 
Homeland Insurgency said:
If it's one little part like the unsourced picture with the numbers on it thrown around here sometimes for lack of anything else then maybe it was just thrown on the lawn.

If it's one piece of landing gear or one engine well maybe they were in the part of the Pentagon that was under construction already before anything blew up.

This is "what if" right?

Maybe the janitor or some other low level Pentagon employee was told to unload and put them there and was also killed in the attack later on.

What if...?

So what?

It's just as good as any story you got.

Now.

How many parts from 9/11 all together?

Does any debunker know?

Would all the parts from all the attacks even fill one dumpster? One and a half?

Did they need to pay for two dumpsters?

That's some vast conspiracy.
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No matter how many times you try to dodge the question, it still remains:

"If the aircraft parts found at the Pentagon were not from AA77, then where did they come from, and how did they get there?"

Start your own thread, as I stated, if you can't answer the question and would like to discuss other things.
 
Homeland Insurgency said:
This is "what if" right?

Maybe the janitor or some other low level Pentagon employee was told to unload and put them there and was also killed in the attack later on.

What if...?

So what?

It's just as good as any story you got.
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Unbelieveable you would say something like this. The strength of a theory is how well it stands up to tests. Not one person was reported to have planted evidence at the pentagon crime scene. Dozens of people witnessed an American Airliens 757 slam into the pentagon. I see you're still extremely shy in putting forth any theory as to what happened on 9/11--my guess is lack of explanatory skills and relevant experiences. Stop asking meaningless questions and see how well your talents stack up to those you call debunkers.
 
Homeland Insurgency said:
If it's one little part like the unsourced picture with the numbers on it thrown around here sometimes for lack of anything else then maybe it was just thrown on the lawn.
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All your issues are addresses here:

_Firefight: Inside the Battle to Save the Pentagon on 9/11_
150 interviews with participants and eye-witnesses
 
AJM8125 said:
No matter how many times you try to dodge the question, it still remains:

"If the aircraft parts found at the Pentagon were not from AA77, then where did they come from, and how did they get there?"

Start your own thread, as I stated, if you can't answer the question and would like to discuss other things.
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The Pentagon janitor after he was told to do so in a memo.

So how many parts did the janitor need to move from the parked truck at the loading dock on 9/10 and move them to the part of the Pentagon that was under construction?

If it was an entire plane well then that would just be impossible.

So how much of a plane was found where every passenger except one was identified?

"What if" is fun ain't it?

Are you having fun yet?

You better learn to when all your story offers is openings for "what if".

I could go all day and night.

That's why a real investigation is needed.
 
Homeland Insurgency said:
The Pentagon janitor after he was told to do so in a memo.

So how many parts did the janitor need to move from the parked truck at the loading dock on 9/10 and move them to the part of the Pentagon that was under construction?
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None. Read the book and you'll have a clue.

_Firefight: Inside the Battle to Save the Pentagon on 9/11_
150 interviews with participants and eye-witnesses
 
Homeland Insurgency said:
The Pentagon janitor after he was told to do so in a memo.

So how many parts did the janitor need to move from the parked truck at the loading dock on 9/10 and move them to the part of the Pentagon that was under construction?

If it was an entire plane well then that would just be impossible.

So how much of a plane was found where every passenger except one was identified?

"What if" is fun ain't it?

Are you having fun yet?

You better learn to when all your story offers is openings for "what if".

I could go all day and night.

That's why a real investigation is needed.
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*sigh*

AJM8125 said:
Of course they won't be pigeon holed into that argument. Cognitive dissonance is a mutha.
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"If the aircraft parts found at the Pentagon were not from AA77, then where did they come from, and how did they get there?"
 
AJM8125 said:
*sigh*

"If the aircraft parts found at the Pentagon were not from AA77, then where did they come from, and how did they get there?"
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Do you have parts? I think I asked that already did you miss it?

I mean if you have parts then what's all the bold lettering about?

And if you have parts then how many?

I hope those bold letters aren't a sign of a future aneurysm.

I really do.

*SIGH*
 
Homeland Insurgency said:
Do you have parts? I think I asked that already did you miss it?

I mean if you have parts then what's all the bold lettering about?

And if you have parts then how many?

I hope those bold letters aren't a sign of a future aneurysm.

I really do.

*SIGH*
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If I have the parts or not is not the question. I won't post it again as you seem to have become annoyed.

Most of the time you seem somewhat intelligent. I am at a loss to explain why a simple question is thoroughly busting your hump.
 
Homeland Insurgency said:
Do you have parts? I think I asked that already did you miss it?

I mean if you have parts then what's all the bold lettering about?

And if you have parts then how many?
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Tons.

Book: _Firefight: Inside the Battle to Save the Pentagon on 9/11_
150 interviews with participants and eye-witnesses
 
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