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Old 13th July 2009, 09:53 AM   #241
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You probably overlooked The Great Kat (Katherine Thomas), the "High Priestess of Shred Guitar". She's crazy, and not everyone's cup of tea, but what she can do with a guitar is amazing.

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reminds me of Slash, he also went on stage only in underwear
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Old 13th July 2009, 10:59 AM   #242
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You probably overlooked The Great Kat (Katherine Thomas), the "High Priestess of Shred Guitar". She's crazy, and not everyone's cup of tea, but what she can do with a guitar is amazing.
Sorry - not impressed, cup of tea or otherwise. Does she even deviate from the high E-string in that first clip?!

No offence, but you're obviously easily amazed - I take it you don't play?!
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Old 13th July 2009, 05:34 PM   #243
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I take it you don't play?!

No, I don't.

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No offence, but you're obviously easily amazed.

None taken, but I find solace in knowing that I am not the only tone-deaf, musically-challenged person that thinks she is quite good with a guitar (link).
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No, I don't.




None taken, but I find solace in knowing that I am not the only tone-deaf, musically-challenged person that thinks she is quite good with a guitar (link).
Well she doesn't impress me either, it is NOT very difficult the stuf she makes and her sound is horrible. Look at this clip:

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a very young kid that can shred-tap and generally play a mean guitar much better.

Personally i must add that speed doesn't impress me and i am definitely not a fan of "shredders", i like a guitarplayer that can put FEELING into a solo, like BB King, Clapton and others. The best soloes are often the simplest. If you listen to one of the most famous soloes in the world: Richies solo in "Smoke on the Water" from "Made in Japan" you can allmost whistle the solo. THAT is genious.
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None taken, but I find solace in knowing that I am not the only tone-deaf, musically-challenged person that thinks she is quite good with a guitar (link).
Unfortunately this linked website is Government blocked in the country where I currently reside. I'm therefore intrugued. Hints please!
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Unfortunately this linked website is Government blocked in the country where I currently reside. I'm therefore intrugued. Hints please!
Her own website with rewiews like theese:

-"50 FASTEST GUITARISTS OF ALL TIME" - Guitar World Magazine
-"TOP 10 FASTEST SHREDDERS OF ALL TIME" - Guitar One Magazine
-"THE 100 WILDEST GUITAR HEROES" - Classic Rock Magazine

"The Great Kat should be feared because her hyper-blasting, neo-classical, whirlwind guitar playing is so precise and intense. This woman really is a better guitarist than most men ever were. Beethoven’s Guitar Shred DVD is a portable clinic of seemingly inhuman guitar antics. Dominating torture, blood, fire, anti-terrorist sentiments – all wrapped in an oddly tasteful, hyper-classical visual feast."
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"Move over, Jamie Foxx. The Soloist's insanely genius Juilliard apprentice is up against some formidable competition, and she's female. The Great Kat is basically showing the male competition how it's done, better and faster. Her raging, fast forward in real time Beethoven's Guitar Shred is like nothing that has come before. A mix 'n match medley of Beethoven, Bach, Abu Ghraib and Islamic insurgency. A classical/metal lovers everywhere wakeup call, these mini-musicals for guitar, violin and machete could very well blow your mind."
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did i miss any important ones? (Technically good Players, music style doesnt matter, i also listed Steve Vai ))
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ED: Why on earth do they block a site like that???????
Beats me, but given what you've extracted (thanks) only BS springs to mind!
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Old 14th July 2009, 12:19 AM   #249
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Beats me, but given what you've extracted (thanks) only BS springs to mind!
Well ok, there are a lot of pictures of her in various SM style underwear in there, not my kink (black leather and blood) but i suppose that some might be aroused by them Perhaps that is the explanation.?
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How much of this is just musical peridolia? Even the most 'blatant' sounding example from above, Stairway/Taurus, just shares a descending base line, but the two songs are completely different.

Also, it's normal to have influences, and I think Page, perhaps due to his stature, gets unfairly scrutinized for it. It doesn't take away from the incredible scope of his vision, imo.

Page 'ripping off' Blues players doesn't hold water...many Blues songs use the same chord progressions...guess they all rip each other off then.

'Moby Dick' rip off according to your list:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWyFo_KK0gg

Here's a better one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvtabNAb_wE

Here's The Allman Brothers playing the same Blues 'standard', if you will:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIY8CoMILgU

In closing, I'm not saying he never ripped anyone off (Dazed And Confused comes to mind), I'm just saying it's gotten blown out of porportion.

ps: some of my favorite Zep songs are not on that list...The Rain Song, Four Sticks, Over The Hills And Far Away, The Immigrent Song, Tangerine, Misty Mountain Hop, The Ocean, Going to California, Black Dog, etc., etc, etc.
A second rate band in my opinion.It was my misfortune to see their first major outing at the Bath festival in 1970,and I was not impressed.John Bonham sounding like an explosion in a boiler factory,Page running up and down some blues scales,Plant caterwauling like a petulant child screaming for a lollipop.John Paul Jones was the only musician in the group.Over amped bombastic nonsense.I was amazed when they became so popular.Later that day Johnny Winter came out and wiped the floor with them,I never forgave Page for ripping off Balckwaterside from Bert Jansch,renaming it Blackmountainsideand then murdering it into the bargain.They commited songicide on many occasions,what they did to Charlie Patton's Moon Going Down was a sin.Don't give me that crap about blues standards,when the Stones recorded You Gotta Move they made sure that Fred McDowell's widow got the money.Jagger and Richards were scrupulous about sources and royalties.It took years for Willie Dixon's widow to get the money for Whole Lotta Love,original title You Need Loving,a nice song on an old Muddy Waters album which they stole and commited murder on again.There are more cases.Stop making excuses for those two thieving bastards.Anyway I'm surprised to hear someone on this forum defend a man like Page who believes that Alistair Crowley possesed occult powers.

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Anyway I'm surprised to hear someone on this forum defend a man like Page who believes that Alistair Crowley possesed occult powers.

Which has to do with his skills as a guitar player exactly what?
I do not like him too much as a player myself, but I do not understand your argument.
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seems not to be hundrets,
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Her own website with rewiews like theese:

-"50 FASTEST GUITARISTS OF ALL TIME" - Guitar World Magazine
-"TOP 10 FASTEST SHREDDERS OF ALL TIME" - Guitar One Magazine
-"THE 100 WILDEST GUITAR HEROES" - Classic Rock Magazine

"The Great Kat should be feared because her hyper-blasting, neo-classical, whirlwind guitar playing is so precise and intense. This woman really is a better guitarist than most men ever were. Beethoven’s Guitar Shred DVD is a portable clinic of seemingly inhuman guitar antics. Dominating torture, blood, fire, anti-terrorist sentiments – all wrapped in an oddly tasteful, hyper-classical visual feast."
Mark Morton
Heavy Metal Examiner

"Move over, Jamie Foxx. The Soloist's insanely genius Juilliard apprentice is up against some formidable competition, and she's female. The Great Kat is basically showing the male competition how it's done, better and faster. Her raging, fast forward in real time Beethoven's Guitar Shred is like nothing that has come before. A mix 'n match medley of Beethoven, Bach, Abu Ghraib and Islamic insurgency. A classical/metal lovers everywhere wakeup call, these mini-musicals for guitar, violin and machete could very well blow your mind."
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ED: Why on earth do they block a site like that???????
They don't. Must be his ISP, I can access it fine.
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Her own website with rewiews like theese:

-"50 FASTEST GUITARISTS OF ALL TIME" - Guitar World Magazine
-"TOP 10 FASTEST SHREDDERS OF ALL TIME" - Guitar One Magazine
-"THE 100 WILDEST GUITAR HEROES" - Classic Rock Magazine

"The Great Kat should be feared because her hyper-blasting, neo-classical, whirlwind guitar playing is so precise and intense. This woman really is a better guitarist than most men ever were. Beethoven’s Guitar Shred DVD is a portable clinic of seemingly inhuman guitar antics. Dominating torture, blood, fire, anti-terrorist sentiments – all wrapped in an oddly tasteful, hyper-classical visual feast."
Mark Morton
Heavy Metal Examiner

"Move over, Jamie Foxx. The Soloist's insanely genius Juilliard apprentice is up against some formidable competition, and she's female. The Great Kat is basically showing the male competition how it's done, better and faster. Her raging, fast forward in real time Beethoven's Guitar Shred is like nothing that has come before. A mix 'n match medley of Beethoven, Bach, Abu Ghraib and Islamic insurgency. A classical/metal lovers everywhere wakeup call, these mini-musicals for guitar, violin and machete could very well blow your mind."
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ED: Why on earth do they block a site like that???????
I get certain sites and YouTube "blocked in your country" due to copyright concerns. Maybe someone's been ripping her samples? (I don't know if she has any on there, the site, to be honest, is so painfully bad that I didn't get past a page or two.)
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They don't. Must be his ISP, I can access it fine.
Can you tell me how? All I found was crap. Nothing in the least bit "fine".
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Which has to do with his skills as a guitar player exactly what?
I do not like him too much as a player myself, but I do not understand your argument.
Nothing to understand.Plagiarists are scum,I just hate the talentless little git.Does every post on this site have to be a cast iron logical arguement? We are sometimes irrational creatures.
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They don't. Must be his ISP, I can access it fine.
Don't worry guys - simple explanation - Middle East!
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Wilco's Nels Cline is a fantastic guitarist as well.
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Already on the list- John Williams

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I never heard of this "Great Kat" until now.
I watched the videos and I'm not impressed...

If she is on the list Kerry King most definitely deserves to be also.

I can't think of the name right now but who was Phil Collins's guitar player when he was on tour (solo)?
That dude is pretty damn good.

And Brad Gillis also.
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I can't think of the name right now but who was Phil Collins's guitar player when he was on tour (solo)?
That dude is pretty damn good.
He's used Daryl Stuermer (the guy who used to tour with Genesis). Is that who you're thinking of? He's without doubt a great guitarist, but, like many session type players, while ranking highly on technical merit, wouldn't be one that might spring to mind in terms of innovation.

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Steve Hillage
Quite the opposite - not a technical great (decent enough though) but highly distinctive and creative.
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Don't worry guys - simple explanation - Middle East!
Oh, I thought you were in Australia.
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Unless I've missed it, no-one has mentioned Marty Friedman yet which is pretty astonishing (check out the 'Scenes' CD for one of the best examples of his playing - I'm only a beginning player myself but I played the cd to a highly skilled classical / jazz guitarist and he was very impressed...said it was one of the best things he'd heard in ages). Could also mention Jason Becker...

As for female guitarists, Lori Linstruth is pretty good and extremely friendly - answers her emails promptly and personally.
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Could also mention Jason Becker...
Beat me to it. (He's one of my son's idols.)

I would have to add Thurston Moore and Lee Ranaldo of Sonic Youth. Very innovative guitar players.
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So take Buckethead on a masterpiece like "Chinese Democracy", for example. Where would you say that sits within your framework?

At almost the other end of the spectrum take Mark Knopfler on "Shangri La" or "Kill To Get Crimson". Even after listening to those albums hundreds of times I fail to be moved by the smallest of nuances, including, at times, newly discovered ones!

Am I just a natural at homing in on the "unique mix of influence" and "passion", or are those attributes simply what defines the necessary trait for musicians and bands to succeed? Either way, various rock musicians and bands are undeniably talented enough to perpetuate, and it's certainly keeping me entertained!
I dont think that there is anything wrong with recycling riffs or other musical ideas. TISM can't have either - they made a career of performing songs over all sorts of cliched beats and progressions. They even stole the costume idea from the Residents. They never took themselves too seriously though.

As with the Sex Pistols, too often an artist is lauded for having a great new sound when they were just rehashing something done before. Any of today's rock artists who think they are breaking new ground are kidding themselves.

In that clip of styles posted earlier Knopfler was one of the few I got - his tone and phrasing is very distinctive. I dont know a lot about Bucket Head but his playing was further from the '80s neoclassical roots than I'd expected.
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Wow,....how the hell is it that this thread has gone to 7 pages and no one has yet mentioned the guy who may just be the very best blues guitarist of any generation???

Witness the awesomeness of Mr. Joe Bonamassa!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDAQm2qWnYw
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...also how can you guys mention Santana while blowing off Neil Schon?

Neil is an amazing guitarist....he made going to those Journey concerts back in the 80's worthwhile!

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Also, since no one else will I have to give an honorable mention to Gary Richrath who tangled one of his broken guitar strings in my hair in Mainz back in 1980 during an REO Speedwagon show...

dang but that was fun!
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I loved the Great Kat! Thanks you guys...so much new stuff to watch!!! How cool!

I hope you guys liked the Joe Bonamassa vid. I just saw him 2 months ago and it was literally the best rock n roll show I've ever seen and I've seen a bunch!

Since we're making a list of the ladies too, no list would be complete without the wonderfully talented Carolyn Wonderland!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaS6T...eature=related

and my favorite song from her:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wxk5E...eature=related
best rendition of this Bob Dylan song I've ever heard.

enjoy.
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Old 15th July 2009, 02:40 AM   #272
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Wow...no Sonny Landreth on the list??

John Hiatt anyone??

Here's them both on stage doing what they do..and it looks fun!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_CUzuitxSI

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Old 15th July 2009, 03:18 AM   #273
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Wait!

No list of guitarists could ever EVER be complete without the great Earl Slick!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=or1dy...eature=related

(I met Earl at Beatlesfest in NYC last Feb...what a great guy!)

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Old 15th July 2009, 04:37 AM   #274
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Couple names usually get left out of these lists.

Alvin Lee
Mark Farner

Personal favs:

Jonny Marr
Brian Setzer
Kevin Shields
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Old 15th July 2009, 07:07 AM   #275
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Anyone mentioned Jack White (White Stripes)?
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Old 15th July 2009, 09:42 AM   #276
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Perhaps as a group, some of the best guitarists are Flamenco.

John H. Clarke

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After seeing him live last night, I'm going to give a shout-out to Joe Louis Walker. For my money, he's the best blues guitarist working today.
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I'll throw a vote in for Richard Thompson if no one's mentioned him yet.
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Perhaps as a group, some of the best guitarists are Flamenco.

John H. Clarke

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I've mentioned Mike Kenneally before, but I wanted to post some clips.

The first two are Frank Zappa covers, starting with an acoustic Inca Roads (with a little Jazz Discharge Party Hats thrown in during the intro):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8DxA1rLmo4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV7E4...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV4GzfFwc4U
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