Your best tip for 911 truther video clip

911kongen

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Im trying to collect all the extreme videos on 911 truthers that I can find, and then make a film about the movement. I think I have collected most of them, but there have to be a lot of videos I never have seen yet. So I woud appreciate all videos you link to!

PS, Im looking for videos on Alex Jones to! ;)
 
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Do you have the one were they remove audio from a clip of the WTC collapsing and replace it with an audio track featuring explosives going off and people screaming?

I remember seeing it a while back and thought it was a joke, but recently a truther showed it to me to prove there were bombs going off. I have never laughed so hard.

It's about the 7 min mark of this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZ4dVo5QgYg
 
There's also a couple of classic FEMA camp videos floating around...I forget the name of the famous one, but it's a video made by this girl who was part of the militia back in the 90's. She's got more guano in her head than an evangelist.

There's also a great clip of Alex Jones being confronted about his Jesuit ties, he precedes to actually cuss them out on the air and drop the call..He screams "f*ck you!!!, you're scum!!!" over and over...It's uncensored and pretty rediculous.

Also, for AJ look up "Alex Jones and Doug Stanhope" in google video. This is How AJ talks when he's off the air, waaay crazier than on the air, he even starts a fight.

Let's see, there's also his interview with Peter Joseph of Zeitgeist, that's epic bad spit madness....

I'll post some more on here as I think of them, but I followed these guys extensively for five years and am also interested in compiling a movie for it, so lets combine forces...Anything else ya wanna know? I can help
 
There has to be plenty of video of truthers going crazy? Link to them here!
 
I just saw your video, it was excellent and disturbing. I've just finished a book called "The Patriot" by James Wesley. It's a survivalist novel and I also found it quite disturbing he mixes anti-government, FEMA camp BS and many more of the stuff we see coming from truthers. Basically it's a novel disguised as a survivalist/militia handbook. I'm glad I read it but I doubt I'll ever delve into that sort of cesspool again.
 
That interview Judy Wood did with the DC Truther guy was pretty nutty in an understated way. It's been posted on this forum a few times, but I'm not sure it's the kind of crazy you're looking for.

There was all that stuff the loose change guys posted around the time of the fifth anniversary, of them hanging out with Alex Jones in NYC. Chasing Military people out of restaurants, not knowing how to catch a train etc. There is also some great stuff of AJ getting his ass handed to him by Gravy.

It is beyond my powers to call up links at the moment, sorry.
 
Joecraine is one of the nuttiest he has 157 videos to prove it.

http://www.youtube.com/user/CNN911Fakes

Hehe. No kidding. He's the guy who inspired me to create my own two videos:

9/11 Phantom Tire Mystery solved parts I and II. He visited my channel and invited me to come to his channel and find any flaws in his videos. I obliged, and he claimed to have not invited criticism, strangely. Here's his video followed by my responses. (He called me a 'disinfo agent'). He did delete some of my comments but to his credit kept others....

enjoy: 'seems to be on purpose'





 
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There's also some great stuff on audio if you're interested.

I almost forgot: try some of Ace Baker's 'no plane' videos for a good laugh.
 
There's lots of good stuff in this Ground Zeros video by Gravy:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5004042232637229146&hl=en

Haha, I didn't know that comments were still enabled there (I disable them for my videos). One looney-tune wrote,

"After 30 minutes it is quite clear that alot of money and research has gone into producing this hit piece. Undoubtedly funded by Silverstein."

That's hilarious because the video couldn't be any more crude or amateurish in production value. It was the first video I've ever made, was shot with a point-and shoot still camera, and the software I used, iMovie 3, is famous for being one of the worst pieces of crap Apple's ever produced, and one of the worst video editing tools anyone's produced (I didn't know that at the time). Last week a guy in France emailed to ask if I had, uh, higher resolution video clips available, because he wants to produce a translated version of one of my videos. I don't.

I didn't purchase better video editing software because I had a policy of spending as little money as possible on my "debunking" activities. That was in part because I had to take Saturdays off to confront the creeps at the WTC site, and Saturdays are the most lucrative days in the NYC tourist biz. I was losing a large part of my weekly earnings by being there. It was also because I wanted to show that no money is needed to expose the lies of the 9/11 deniers. All that's needed is the ability to comprehend written and audiovisual material. My total expenditures for my 2006 debunking activities (excluding time off work and subway fare) was about $25.

Some truthers accused me of editing hours of footage in order to show only the worst truther behavior at Ground Zero. Nope. I shot a total of 14 minutes of video over two days. "The Ground Zeros" is an accurate portrayal of the idiocy I faced from most of the participants each time I went there.*

I take issue with the goal of the OP, which seems to be to collect videos of the worst truther behavior and edit them down into something even more damning. Hammering away at the point that "lay" 9/11 street protesters and internet denizens are often real kooks who behave reprehensibly will – correctly, IMO – lead to accusations of "cherry picking."

I think it is important to show that many of the craziest – and most popular – truther claims are propagated by the "best" of the truthers, such as Richard Gage, Steven Jones, David Ray Griffin, Gordon Ross, Kevin Ryan, Anders Bjorkman, Jim Hoffman, etc. These people claim expertise in these matters, yet they are demonstrably, mind-blowingly, incompetent and dishonest. That's why I made my video "World Trade Center Not a Demolition," which is the only video of mine to which I regularly refer people.


*These are largely the same people who are running the NYCCAN petition.
 
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Is it possible to download your video from googlevideo Gravy? I havent found it on youtube.. and thats the only site I Know how to downloade from. And do you think it is ok if I use some of your clip? All the funny comments you use in the movie, were have you found them? Great Video!
 
There's also some great stuff on audio if you're interested.

I almost forgot: try some of Ace Baker's 'no plane' videos for a good laugh.

Im very interested in audio! You have any tip? I Have seen videos with Ace were he makes an ASS of himself! Not sure if it will fit in my video... maby just to get a good laugh... ? But its funny, and a bit sad!
 
Is it possible to download your video from googlevideo Gravy?
I don't know, but I do know that downloading it and running it through another video editing process would only make a technically inferior video worse.

And do you think it is ok if I use some of your clip?
No, for the reasons I gave above.

All the funny comments you use in the movie, were have you found them?
If you mean the snarky audio bits, they can be found online as MP3s on sound effects (FX) sites. They come primarily from Warner Brothers cartoons and from well-known movies. I simply searched these sound effects sites for the topics I wanted (i.e. "stupid") and used whatever I thought was appropriate.

Great Video!
Thanks, but I don't think it's great. I certainly wouldn't make it today. I do think it served a purpose in 2006, at the height of the truth movement's popularity: to show people how ignorant and nasty the truthers are who desecrate Ground Zero. One of the founders of the popular conspiracy-promoting website Above Top Secret, posted my video there as an example to conspiracists of how not to behave.

Now that the truth movement has died away as a popular movement, I see no reason to make a video that gives attention to people who are desperate for it: the die-hard, most delusional, least mentally healthy truthers.
 
Richard Gage with the Box Demonstration that changed the world. Sofia Shafquat saying clunkety-clunk in the History Channel Special from 2007. The guy with the stackable office trays:



Heiwa is fond of similar analogies to the Twin Towers.
 
I don't know, but I do know that downloading it and running it through another video editing process would only make a technically inferior video worse.

No, for the reasons I gave above.

If you mean the snarky audio bits, they can be found online as MP3s on sound effects (FX) sites. They come primarily from Warner Brothers cartoons and from well-known movies. I simply searched these sound effects sites for the topics I wanted (i.e. "stupid") and used whatever I thought was appropriate.

Thanks, but I don't think it's great. I certainly wouldn't make it today. I do think it served a purpose in 2006, at the height of the truth movement's popularity: to show people how ignorant and nasty the truthers are who desecrate Ground Zero. One of the founders of the popular conspiracy-promoting website Above Top Secret, posted my video there as an example to conspiracists of how not to behave.

Now that the truth movement has died away as a popular movement, I see no reason to make a video that gives attention to people who are desperate for it: the die-hard, most delusional, least mentally healthy truthers.

Alex Jones have more listeners now then ever. I think you may be wrong in saying the movement has died. I think it has getting a lot wors and that the movement has gone over to more radical like Alex Jones. If you believe in 911-inside job you believe in NWO and Alex Jones. Just see all the people from truth movement has been on his show. Avery, Bermas, Gage, Steven Jones, Sheen, Roan Paul, Ventura and Willy Nelson.. Or do you think Jones lies about how many listeners he has? He has got more money now then ever..
 
Hehe. No kidding. He's the guy who inspired me to create my own two videos:

9/11 Phantom Tire Mystery solved parts I and II. He visited my channel and invited me to come to his channel and find any flaws in his videos. I obliged, and he claimed to have not invited criticism, strangely. Here's his video followed by my responses. (He called me a 'disinfo agent'). He did delete some of my comments but to his credit kept others....

enjoy: 'seems to be on purpose'






Good videos alien, cornflakes or corky doesn't explain why they would have "switched" tyres.
the tv fakery loons say all the evidence was preplanted or dropped from a truck which defies belief, what always scared off the loons was this picture:

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this prefab section of columns with a landing gear wheel embedded in it,would have to be delivered by a truck and need a crane to lift it off and place it in the street.

One of the most demented cornflakes video is his 911 satan(with an arm!)
video, the slowed down voice is hilarious, does he think that slow?
LMAO!



cornflakes also has trouble with identifying birds in this video and the audio track he added is ........lol.



he hasn't logged on for 4 months, me thinks he has been committed.

what audio do you have?
 
Richard Gage with the Box Demonstration that changed the world. Sofia Shafquat saying clunkety-clunk in the History Channel Special from 2007. The guy with the stackable office trays:



Heiwa is fond of similar analogies to the Twin Towers.

Who does this remind you of?

 
911kongen, look for the "moving bridge" where twoofers don't have any sense of perspective.
 
Cereal guy is.. Cerious

Yeah he is joking:) just double click embedded videos to go to their original sites.

cheers.


No. hes not joking.
That's completely true J-Bone, the 9/11 was my personal wake up call. In times before the massmurder of the 9/11 me as an italian, used to see all good on things coming from the US i had open my eyes, and start to think whit my own logical mind. It was like a babushka, one of those russian dolls, one inside one other, a never ending CANYON of lies.

J-Bone i still hold you that interview, this week-end i will be off from work (even this place is shutting down, they kick me out)

Love an Peace.
 
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The video of the Twoofers trying to argue with an FDNY fireman at a ceremony at Ground Zero is a classic. The FDNY guy says what we all want to say to the Truthers but can't because it would be a TOS violation.
 
Alex Jones have more listeners now then ever.
His show and website have always been about crazy conspiracy theories and paranoia. 9/11 conspiracy theories were merely tacked on. Of the 32 items listed as prisonplanet.com "best sellers" only three focus on 9/11. Not among the best sellers is Loose Change Final Cut, which Jones co-produced and which by all accounts was a huge flop that apparently resulted in a falling out between Jones and Dylan Avery. (The LCFC 75-pack is on sale for only $746.50!)

I think you may be wrong in saying the movement has died.
Statistics show otherwise. One of many examples: attendance at the big yearly 9/11 truther event at Ground Zero in New York City, by truthers' estimates:

2006: 1,000+
2007: 300
2008: 120
2009: no event planned.

I rest my case.


I think it has getting a lot wors [sic]
What makes you think that?

...and that the movement has gone over to more radical like Alex Jones.
The 9/11 conspiracy theories started with agenda- and profit-driven kooks like Alex Jones. That these same people are among the remaining truthers should not surprise you.

Or do you think Jones lies about how many listeners he has?
He lies about everything else. Do you really think he wouldn't lie about that?

He has got more money now then ever...
Evidence?

ETA: while I'm on the subject of Alex Jones, I can't resist pointing out an advertisement I just saw on his website:

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That's right, it's no longer necessary for insane people to drink colloidal silver in order to turn themselves blue: they can now breathe it! Which reminds me of this video, which I think accurately depicts the state of 9/11 truthers today:

 
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The video of the Twoofers trying to argue with an FDNY fireman at a ceremony at Ground Zero is a classic. The FDNY guy says what we all want to say to the Truthers but can't because it would be a TOS violation.
I wonder if you're referring to the video, included as an addendum to Loose Change, of an altercation between the Loosers and Paul Isaac Jr, a short, burly guy who was wearing a FDNY Auxiliary shirt? Because, as accurate as those comments of Isaac's were about respecting the dead at Ground Zero, he 1) was not even an Auxiliary firefighter at the time; 2) is a hardcore truther and conspiracy theorist himself who invented one of the nutjob claims included in Loose Change; and 3) is completely batcrap crazy. See his posts as "Sentinel" here.

If that's not what you're referring to, I'd like to see the video!
 
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Statistics show otherwise. One of many examples: attendance at the big yearly 9/11 truther event at Ground Zero in New York City, by truthers' estimates:

2006: 1,000+
2007: 300
2008: 120
2009: no event planned.

Dude..the revolution has just begun!! I'm sure by 2025 they will have 2,000 people at their event.

;)
 
Was in NYC at Ground Zero last week (always try to visit site when in NYC) Didn't see
any truther types - were couple of crazy street people babbling incohert nonsense
about WTC. Was reading over plaque on Ten House (quarters of Ladder 10/Engine 10)
when one of these loons began wandering around babling....

Have not seen any truthers other times when visiting

What happened ? Did they get a life? Did mommy ground them or something?
 
[truther] The MTA is conspiring against us! [/truther].

Was in NYC at Ground Zero last week (always try to visit site when in NYC) Didn't see
any truther types - were couple of crazy street people babbling incohert nonsense
about WTC. Was reading over plaque on Ten House (quarters of Ladder 10/Engine 10)
when one of these loons began wandering around babling....

Have not seen any truthers other times when visiting

What happened ? Did they get a life? Did mommy ground them or something?


Two things happened. Jonesy and his ilk took their money. And the MTA got a fare hike.
 
911kongen, look for the "moving bridge" where twoofers don't have any sense of perspective.

My first thought on seeing a moving bridge video was "no one could possibly be this stupid!" but i was mistaken.



lets not forget thou holy laser dot.

 
A good one from dsglop the first minute is good and picks up again at 2:25 where the real stupid begins.


/www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zPZ88U_lkw
 
His show and website have always been about crazy conspiracy theories and paranoia. 9/11 conspiracy theories were merely tacked on. Of the 32 items listed as prisonplanet.com "best sellers" only three focus on 9/11. Not among the best sellers is Loose Change Final Cut, which Jones co-produced and which by all accounts was a huge flop that apparently resulted in a falling out between Jones and Dylan Avery. (The LCFC 75-pack is on sale for only $746.50!)

Statistics show otherwise. One of many examples: attendance at the big yearly 9/11 truther event at Ground Zero in New York City, by truthers' estimates:

2006: 1,000+
2007: 300
2008: 120
2009: no event planned.

I rest my case.


What makes you think that?

The 9/11 conspiracy theories started with agenda- and profit-driven kooks like Alex Jones. That these same people are among the remaining truthers should not surprise you.

He lies about everything else. Do you really think he wouldn't lie about that?

Evidence?

ETA: while I'm on the subject of Alex Jones, I can't resist pointing out an advertisement I just saw on his website:

[qimg]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/87904a84e0afb18f8.jpg[/qimg]

That's right, it's no longer necessary for insane people to drink colloidal silver in order to turn themselves blue: they can now breathe it! Which reminds me of this video, which I think accurately depicts the state of 9/11 truthers today:


I hope you are right on this Gravy! You live in USA, and I dont, so it woud be likely that you know this better than me... but no truther at Ground Zero this year? Im comming to NY that day. To bad! ;)

My point is that I have listen for some years to Alex Jones. During the last year it seems that Alex Jones is doing better. More employers, better equipment and is having NASA pilots and senators on his show. His show is allso looking more and more pro. This worries me, and nobody believes in Alex Jones and not 911-conspiracy. So, the people believing Alex believes in inside job.

In Norway we have got media coverage of Jones Joker stunt, and its talk of a growing right-wing movement in USA. I have feared this for years, and now it seems to happen. We have allso seen people listening to Alex Jones and attacking police. I dont fear the numbers of truthers yet, but I fear that they have more extreme opinions and that USA now has a black president. I see this making it more likely than ever for a person like Mcveigh to attack.

Anybody know how many listeners Jones has?
 
He's still on the nutty, and mostly ignored, fringe. For instance, a list of popular radio shows lists a whole bunch of things: George Noory, Rush Limbaugh, Howard Stern . . . even Paul Harvey, and he's dead. Jones didn't make the list. I don't even know where you would listen to him in my area.

He didn't make the list of radio talk show hosts with weekly audiences over 1 million. He did make a top-50 list, but only one of webcasters.
 
I wonder if you're referring to the video, included as an addendum to Loose Change, of an altercation between the Loosers and Paul Isaac Jr, a short, burly guy who was wearing a FDNY Auxiliary shirt? Because, as accurate as those comments of Isaac's were about respecting the dead at Ground Zero, he 1) was not even an Auxiliary firefighter at the time; 2) is a hardcore truther and conspiracy theorist himself who invented one of the nutjob claims included in Loose Change; and 3) is completely batcrap crazy. See his posts as "Sentinel" here.

If that's not what you're referring to, I'd like to see the video!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFf-buObxl8

I think this is the one he is refering to. I haven't been able to figure out who he is, but maybe you know?? Thanks Gravy!

PS, NSFW. I think I counted 83 curse words in the 9 +/- video.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFf-buObxl8

I think this is the one he is refering to. I haven't been able to figure out who he is, but maybe you know?? Thanks Gravy!

PS, NSFW. I think I counted 83 curse words in the 9 +/- video.

No, that's a terrific video, but the one in question has Jason Bermas against Paul Isaac, Jr., in 2005.

The funny thing is that Isaac turned out to be a 9-11 nutbar himself, just opposed to the Troofers disrespecting the anniversary. His segment starts about 6:30 with Dylan mentioning him and then we see him.
 

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