• Quick note - the problem with Youtube videos not embedding on the forum appears to have been fixed, thanks to ZiprHead. If you do still see problems let me know.

WWII Photo of Little Boy With Hands Raised Fraud

Budly

Thinker
Joined
Aug 16, 2009
Messages
148
It's the most well-known document of the holocaust and it's a fraud.

little_boy_photo.jpg



Here is an essay that asserts it's a fraud, for the following reasons:
1) It's Not A Photo A General Would Choose.
2) They Wouldn't Duplicate It That Way
3) The Caption Doesn't Fit The Photo
4) It's Part Of A Larger Fraudulent Work

Gullibility to believe a photo's authenticity is strong. The famous Robert Capa photo of the falling Spanish Loyalist soldier is now believed by many to be staged. While the Little Boy photo isn't staged, it is taken out of context. It's taken in front of the Hotel Polski in Warsaw, not in the Warsaw Ghetto. That would explain why the boy is dressed nicely. Would you wear high socks and shorts if you hiding from Nazis in the Warsaw Ghetto?
 
Last edited:
It's the most well-known document of the holocaust and it's a fraud.
Well, considering that it's the first time I've ever seen the photo, I would dispute the claim that it's "the most well-known document of the holocaust". I'll accept "a well-known document" because it could just be my personal experience causing my lack of knowledge.

Now, in regards to the claim, so what?

It's one photo. This photo is not the entirity of the documentation for the holocaust. If for some reason it was claimed that this photo was the only proof of the holocaust, then yes - demonstrating that it was not what it purported to be would cast serious doubt. But it ain't. Not by a long shot.

And the boy's outfit looks fairly typical of early-40s schoolboy attire for pretty much most of Europe, but I'm not an expert. Nothing about his outfit suggests to me that it couldn't be what it is supposed to be.
 
Would you wear high socks and shorts if you hiding from Nazis in the Warsaw Ghetto?

I didn't realize they had changing rooms in every other street.

What would they be wearing, exactly?
 
Well obviously they are all queuing for the bus that the authorities have so kindly provided to take them for a nice ride to the country, and they are just holding their hands up to make sure the bus stops for them. The nice men in the smart uniforms are bus conductors, and whilst it looks like they are holding guns that's just a trick of perspective, they are actually ticket machines and they are just making sure that everyone gets a ticket. They really don't want anyone to miss the bus.
 
It's the most well-known document of the holocaust and it's a fraud.

[qimg]http://www.holocaustdenialvideos.com/littleboy/little_boy_photo.jpg[/qimg]


Here is an essay that asserts it's a fraud, for the following reasons:
1) It's Not A Photo A General Would Choose.
2) They Wouldn't Duplicate It That Way
3) The Caption Doesn't Fit The Photo
4) It's Part Of A Larger Fraudulent Work

Gullibility to believe a photo's authenticity is strong. The famous Robert Capa photo of the falling Spanish Loyalist soldier is now believed by many to be staged. While the Little Boy photo isn't staged, it is taken out of context. It's taken in front of the Hotel Polski in Warsaw, not in the Warsaw Ghetto. That would explain why the boy is dressed nicely. Would you wear high socks and shorts if you hiding from Nazis in the Warsaw Ghetto?

Why don't you explain your reasons here, instead of inviting us to read someone else's essay at a Holocaust denial site. I'm not even clicking on your link - make your point here.

Do you deny that this photo was taken during the liquidation of the Warsaw ghetto?
Do you deny the photo was part of the Stroop report?
Do you deny that the SD man on the right is Josef Blösche? The German wiki page shows the photo and has some more info.

Here's another page identifying some of the people in the photo.
 
The essay is Budly's own link - no one needs to click it. Is the Stroop report fake? Who cares? Is the photo fake? No, Budly says, just taken out of context, a photo of a photo, and a photo a Nazi general wouldn't have picked for his scrapbook. Why?

Would a German general choose such an un-chivalric, bullying photo for a commemorative book? To grasp the unlikelihood, try to imagine the United States forces doing that: General Patton sends General Eisenhower a commemorative book about victory in Germany, with the pompous title "We Beat Them!" that includes a photo of an American soldier herding 8-year old German children at gunpoint into some enclosure. 8 year olds with the look of injustice and fear on their faces. It's not the kind of photo that would be chosen.

A Nazi general would not want to use a real photo showing real Nazi-imposed injustice on such an innocent face, so the report must be fake, and therefore the whole holocaust, so this kid must have been acting which means it was staged after all! Is that about it then?
 
Ah yes this clearly proves the holocaust was a lie. Thank you for your eye opening efforts.
 
Another take

Well obviously they are all queuing for the bus that the authorities have so kindly provided to take them for a nice ride to the country, and they are just holding their hands up to make sure the bus stops for them. The nice men in the smart uniforms are bus conductors, and whilst it looks like they are holding guns that's just a trick of perspective, they are actually ticket machines and they are just making sure that everyone gets a ticket. They really don't want anyone to miss the bus.

Nah, they were doing the YMCA dance, it's just that due to the poor quality of the photograph they seem distressed ~ they were just having fun!

On a slightly more serious note when someone is being led at gunpoint to leave his house, I'd call it forcibly led even if not a single of his hair had been touched.

Also I'm afraid neither the OP, nor the authors of this "essay" ever fired a pistol (Firing pistols with both hands is something from movies, but a relatively dumb move in real urban combat).

I could go on, but hey if the OP believes the holocaust never happened, I really can't say much.

...And seriously when the evidence of the holocaust is overwhelming, I can think of only one reason the OP would deny it, and it's not a pretty one.

EDIT: And after searching a bit it has been debunked before on the holocaustcontroversies blog.
 
Last edited:
Also, real holocaust deniers don't introduce themselves with "hi, I'm a holocaust denier." It's just what you ARE. What you say, and put up front, is more cautious "revisionism." Heck, there's a tiny need even for legitimate revisionism of any little myths that prevail. Budly here starts off with attempts of this sort but also says, first post first line:

I am a holocaust denier, but open to your view.

Whooo, open! So is a sewer drain, doesn't mean it pays any attention to what just flows through it.
 
So just why were they all taking a pleasant stroll with their hands waving merrily at the nice men pointing flowers at them? Where were they going as they so merrily went on their way?

Steve
 
Also I'm afraid neither the OP, nor the authors of this "essay" ever fired a pistol (Firing pistols with both hands is something from movies, but a relatively dumb move in real urban combat).

Well, then our unit must have missed that memo. I was definitely taught to hold the pistol with both hands in the army.
 
It's the most well-known document of the holocaust and it's a fraud.

[qimg]http://www.holocaustdenialvideos.com/littleboy/little_boy_photo.jpg[/qimg]


Here is an essay that asserts it's a fraud, for the following reasons:
1) It's Not A Photo A General Would Choose.
2) They Wouldn't Duplicate It That Way
3) The Caption Doesn't Fit The Photo
4) It's Part Of A Larger Fraudulent Work

Gullibility to believe a photo's authenticity is strong. The famous Robert Capa photo of the falling Spanish Loyalist soldier is now believed by many to be staged. While the Little Boy photo isn't staged, it is taken out of context. It's taken in front of the Hotel Polski in Warsaw, not in the Warsaw Ghetto. That would explain why the boy is dressed nicely. Would you wear high socks and shorts if you hiding from Nazis in the Warsaw Ghetto?
Looks legitimate to me. Some poor little frightened Jewish boy with his hands up while a group of armed nazi goons march them off to their deaths.
 
Looks legitimate to me. Some poor little frightened Jewish boy with his hands up while a group of armed nazi goons march them off to their deaths.

You are missing the big picture - the photo is meant to have been taken in location X but it may have been taken in location Y therefore the holocaust never happened.
 
Well, that's what confuses me about the whole argument.

So he says the photo was genuine, i.e., that some frightened civilians including children _were_ marched at gun point out of their homes. Which seems to me like the only things that matter there.

The rest of the objections like "maybe it was at location Y instead of X" or "why would a general choose that for his scrapbook?" seem to me fully irrelevant. As long as the photo is genuine, who cares about such irrelevant details?
 

Back
Top Bottom