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Old 10th March 2010, 10:47 AM   #41
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Kudos to the Exeter, NH Chapter of the NWO!
haaaaa!!!!!!! Live Free or Die!!!!

nice work, NH.

how many towns have voted on this so far?
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Old 10th March 2010, 10:52 AM   #42
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Looks like our boys up in Nelson, NH were in on it too!

http://www.townofnelson.com/


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Here are the results of voting at Town Meeting. Y = Yes, the article passed. (U) means that it passed unanimously. N means it did not pass. Passed Over means that the town voted not to consider the article. .......



27. Shall New Hampshire Congressional Delegation be instructed to pursue a new and independent investigation to address thoroughly all of the evidence and unanswered questions related to the events of September 11, 2001?(The record of the vote on this article shall be transmitted by the Town of Nelson to New Hampshire Congressional Delegation.)
This is a petitioned article. Not recommended by the Selectmen. Passed Over




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Old 10th March 2010, 11:02 AM   #43
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okay now... you guys are slacking up there in Richmond..

It was passed.... I had to call the Town Clerk as there is not a heck of a lot of people there updating their website.

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54. To see if the Town will vote to approve the following resolution: Shall New
Hampshire’s Congressional Delegation be instructed to pursue a new and
independent investigation to address thoroughly all of the evidence and unanswered
questions related to the events of September 11, 2001? (By Petition)

Verbally from town clerk: Passed 48 yes 45 no


wow... 93 voters!!
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Sorry .. for all the posts. Swanzey, NH truthers:

FAIL

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Article 8
Shall the town vote to approve the following resolution:
Shall New Hampshire’s Congressional Delegation be instructed to pursue a new and independent
investigation to address thoroughly all of the evidence and unanswered questions related to the events of
September 11, 2001? The record of the vote on this article shall be transmitted by the Town of Swanzey to
New Hampshire’s Congressional Delegation. (SUBMITTED BY PETITION)

YES - 267 NO - 675
http://www.town.swanzey.nh.us

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Old 10th March 2010, 11:35 AM   #45
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9/11 article vote results



Published: Wednesday, March 10, 2010
A petition article on several town warrants instructs the state’s congressional delegation to pursue a “new and independent investigation” into the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. Here’s how it fared in local towns:

u Chesterfield: Failed

u Harrisville: Failed

u Marlborough: Failed

u Nelson: Passed over

u Richmond: Passed

u Swanzey: Failed

http://keenesentinel.com/articles/20.../id_393196.txt
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Old 10th March 2010, 11:43 AM   #46
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MARLBOROUGH — A sparsely attended town meeting made for a quick night in Marlborough, where residents approved 12 of 14 articles Tuesday.

The exceptions were petition articles on a state constitutional amendment defining marriage, and a resolution asking New Hampshire’s congressional delegation to pursue a new, independent investigation of the 9/11 terrorist attacks on New York and Washington. Both were convincingly defeated by voice votes.

It took 65 residents — 4.3 percent of the town’s 1,528 registered voters — just 80 minutes to take care of business in the Marlborough School gymnasium.
http://www.sentinelsource.com/articl.../ID_393295.txt
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Old 10th March 2010, 11:58 AM   #47
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9/11 article vote results



Published: Wednesday, March 10, 2010
A petition article on several town warrants instructs the state’s congressional delegation to pursue a “new and independent investigation” into the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. Here’s how it fared in local towns:

u Chesterfield: Failed

u Harrisville: Failed

u Marlborough: Failed

u Nelson: Passed over

u Richmond: Passed

u Swanzey: Failed

http://keenesentinel.com/articles/20.../id_393196.txt

Any word from the truther websites??
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Old 10th March 2010, 12:26 PM   #48
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Kudos to NYCCAN for using the lawful democratic process to express their views, wishes, and ideas.

Kudos to the voters in New Hampshire towns for using the lawful democratic process to express their views, wishes, and ideas.

Respectfully,
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Old 10th March 2010, 12:36 PM   #49
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9/11 article vote results



Published: Wednesday, March 10, 2010
A petition article on several town warrants instructs the state’s congressional delegation to pursue a “new and independent investigation” into the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. Here’s how it fared in local towns:

u Chesterfield: Failed

u Harrisville: Failed

u Marlborough: Failed

u Nelson: Passed over

u Richmond: Passed

u Swanzey: Failed

http://keenesentinel.com/articles/20.../id_393196.txt
So given that the only town that passed the resolution did so by 3 votes, it failed badly for the entire state.
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Old 10th March 2010, 01:51 PM   #50
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Any word from the truther websites??
Only the sounds of silence...
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Kudos to NYCCAN for using the lawful democratic process to express their views, wishes, and ideas.

Kudos to the voters in New Hampshire towns for using the lawful democratic process to express their views, wishes, and ideas.

Respectfully,
Myriad

kudos all around! wait...what goes with kudos....
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My Million Dollar Challenge prediction:

The various CT groups backing this will claim a victory in that in most of the cases where there was a recorded vote, the people supporting the measures represented a respectable minority (20-30% of the votes cast). This will be touted as "the percentage of the population that supports a new investigation", completely ignoring the fact that in most cases, 90+% of the population couldn't even be bothered to give a damn about their proposal either way.
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Thanks for those results, bje and Mr. Herbert.


Originally Posted by Hokulele View Post
My Million Dollar Challenge prediction:

The various CT groups backing this will claim a victory in that in most of the cases where there was a recorded vote, the people supporting the measures represented a respectable minority (20-30% of the votes cast). This will be touted as "the percentage of the population that supports a new investigation", completely ignoring the fact that in most cases, 90+% of the population couldn't even be bothered to give a damn about their proposal either way.
Furthermore, truthers will claim that this number means the percentage who believe 9/11 was an inside job.
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Old 11th March 2010, 03:18 AM   #54
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Originally Posted by Hokulele View Post
My Million Dollar Challenge prediction:

The various CT groups backing this will claim a victory in that in most of the cases where there was a recorded vote, the people supporting the measures represented a respectable minority (20-30% of the votes cast). This will be touted as "the percentage of the population that supports a new investigation", completely ignoring the fact that in most cases, 90+% of the population couldn't even be bothered to give a damn about their proposal either way.

Looks like Randi has to write a check:

Originally Posted by ATS Truther

Of the votes reported so far, adding them up, we can get the feel of say the general population I would say.
We have.- 696 for the YES.
And.- 2097 for the NO.

So it´s almost exactly a 3 to 1 ratio. Quite "revealing" wouldn´t you agree??
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Looks like Randi has to write a check:
That falls under the category of "The sun will rise tomorrow".
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Yay! My home state came through.
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What's stopping the "truthers" from doing an investigation? I've asked this before but, none of them ever answer.
Three words: idiots without means.
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Originally Posted by Hokulele
My Million Dollar Challenge prediction:

The various CT groups backing this will claim a victory in that in most of the cases where there was a recorded vote, the people supporting the measures represented a respectable minority (20-30% of the votes cast). This will be touted as "the percentage of the population that supports a new investigation", completely ignoring the fact that in most cases, 90+% of the population couldn't even be bothered to give a damn about their proposal either way.
Looks like Randi has to write a check:

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Of the votes reported so far, adding them up, we can get the feel of say the general population I would say.
We have.- 696 for the YES.
And.- 2097 for the NO.

So it´s almost exactly a 3 to 1 ratio. Quite "revealing" wouldn´t you agree??
You underestimated the idiotic paranoia of these people. S/he thinks it's suspicious the ration was very close to 3 to 1 and thus presumembly it was fixed, as if it were possible to fix a town hall meeting vote.
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Originally Posted by Mr.Herbert View Post
Looks like Randi has to write a check:

*Buffs nails on shirtfront*

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Richmond, the only town that passed the measure, is the home of the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, a virulently anti-semitic Catholic splinter group. It's also the only town in the state that Ron Paul won in the 2008 Republican primary.
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wait.....only ONE town in New Hampshire passed this petition?

just one? another epic Truther fail huh?

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wait.....only ONE town in New Hampshire passed this petition?

just one? another epic Truther fail huh?

By 3 votes out of about 100.
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And when you're bad, you're even better






or so I've heard....
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Oh come on... I was soooooo hoping that Deep would be in this thread cheerleading for this.

It isn't NYCCAN'T without deep datamining and taking things out of context. Where are you DEEP? What happened to that NYCCAN'T faith? (I almost put in fail... but I fixed it)

or are you still trying to figure out how less than 1000 people on a petition can total over 1100 signatures with bachelors degrees?
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Keene turned it down? That's gonna leave a mark.

Has anyone broke this news to Bill Smith? Didn't he claim this was going to "snowball into an avalanche" of support nation wide?
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no doubt, the mountain of support for 9-11 Truth in New Hampshire, will lead to a nation-wide push for a new investigation!!!!!

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DGM...

Just like a truther to leave out several key words in their datamining
"snowball into an avalanche" in Hell.
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Latest updates from the NYCCAN'T site:

http://voteforanswersnh.com/richmond...resolution.php
"Among the four towns that have yet to vote, Barnstead will vote on Saturday, March 13, and Peterborough, Stoddard and Hanover will vote on May 11."

http://www.nyccan.org/join.php


And from their email newsletter today:

"“Building What?!” is a phone and fax campaign aimed at helping the New York City Council become aware of the collapse of World Trade Center Building 7, and amplifying the request from more than one thousand architects and engineers that a new investigation be opened into the collapse of this building.

To make this campaign a success we will need your involvement and the involvement of every American who refuses to stand for the unscientific Building 7 report handed down by NIST. For 17 business days starting on Monday, March 15, we will channel the energy and strength of our movement into one voice to ensure that every member of the New York City Council will no longer be oblivious to the mysterious collapse of World Trade Center Building 7. Each morning, NYC CAN will send out an action alert asking you to phone or fax three city council members for that day until we reach all 51 council members. Thousands of phone calls and faxes will reinforce and pave the way for NYC CAN’s ongoing meetings with individual council members."

New investigation -> mysterious collapse -> controlled demoliton. Who called that?
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Oh, more from the newsletter, since it's fun to see such FAILures' aims:

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While devoting intense effort to getting the remaining resolutions passed in Barnstead, Peterborough, Stoddard and Hanover, the dedicated activists in the Monadnock 9/11 Truth Alliance and other parts of New Hampshire will use the foundation they have built to begin pursuing three new endeavors: 1) working with the Keene City Council and other City Councils to pass similar resolutions, 2) working with State Representatives to introduce a similar resolution in the State House of Representatives that would be voted on in early 2011, and 3) organizing to expand Vote For Answers New Hampshire to several dozen towns in 2011.

On the national front, NYC CAN will push forward with ballot initiatives in other states where voters can petition for non-binding resolutions to be on the ballot. In states where laws prevent voters from petitioning for non-binding resolutions, we will work with supportive elected officials to place resolutions on local ballots directly, without petitioning, or for city councils to pass resolutions on their own.

NYC CAN’s top ballot initiative priority is Boston, where a feasible sum of 3,600 signatures will allow for non-binding “public policy questions” to be placed on ballots in all 18 Massachusetts House of Representatives Districts located in Boston (200 signatures are needed per district). There are also opportunities to petition for resolutions in Detroit and in cities throughout Wisconsin, and a number of cities across the country present opportunities for city councils to place resolutions directly on the ballot.
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Originally Posted by orphia nay View Post
http://voteforanswersnh.com/richmond...resolution.php
"Among the four towns that have yet to vote, Barnstead will vote on Saturday, March 13, and Peterborough, Stoddard and Hanover will vote on May 11."
Populations according to the 2000 US Census:

Barnstead: 3886
Peterborough: 5883
Stoddard: 928
Hanover: 10,850

9/11 Truth is really hitting the Big Time soon, isn't it?
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Populations according to the 2000 US Census:

Barnstead: 3886
Peterborough: 5883
Stoddard: 928
Hanover: 10,850

9/11 Truth is really hitting the Big Time soon, isn't it?


We really need Bill Smith to put the spin on that, to put the cherry on the top of those delicious lulz.
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NYC CAN’s top ballot initiative priority is Boston, where a feasible sum of 3,600 signatures will allow for non-binding “public policy questions” to be placed on ballots in all 18 Massachusetts House of Representatives Districts located in Boston (200 signatures are needed per district). There are also opportunities to petition for resolutions in Detroit and in cities throughout Wisconsin, and a number of cities across the country present opportunities for city councils to place resolutions directly on the ballot.
They haven't got a snowballs chance in hell of getting anywhere with this in Boston. Richard Gage spoke in Cambridge (a church in Harvard square) in the middle of a street festival (thousands of people) and only managed to get 85 people to attend. Anyone that knows that area (we affectionately call it the "Peoples Republic of Cambridge") knows if you can't get support there you won't get it anywhere in Massachusetts.

I smell another epic failure (most likely a non-start) on the horizon.
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For those of you who don't know Boston Center is located in Nashua, NH. I have had the opportunity to travel through Richmond NH, where it was passed, they do have a blinking yellow light, that's about it. When Thoreau travled through New Hampshire, I'm sure the "Road Less Traveled" was know where near Richmond, NH.
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I think Truthers would get their asses kicked in Boston. And I would laugh.
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Old 14th March 2010, 03:11 PM   #75
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Old 14th March 2010, 05:34 PM   #76
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For those of you who don't know Boston Center is located in Nashua, NH. I have had the opportunity to travel through Richmond NH, where it was passed, they do have a blinking yellow light, that's about it. When Thoreau travled through New Hampshire, I'm sure the "Road Less Traveled" was know where near Richmond, NH.
I thinks there's a sign at the intersection, also:

"Welcome to Richmond, come again."
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Old 15th March 2010, 01:01 AM   #77
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Fun withe truther logic!

The Vote For Answers resolution instructing New Hampshire’s congressional delegation “to pursue a new and independent investigation to address thoroughly all of the evidence and unanswered questions related to the events of September 11, 2001” passed 48 to 45 in Richmond (52% in favor).

To our disappointment seven other towns voted down the resolutions, however, the overall percentage of votes in favor (in towns where exact results were recorded) was 23%. In referendums on social issues that depend more on values than awareness of the facts, 77% to 23% might be a landslide. However, because of the painful implications of 9/11 not being what we were told, and the media blackout on critical examination of the official 9/11 account, about 1 in 4 voters calling for a new 9/11 investigation is an accomplishment we can be proud of – it shows beyond a shadow of a doubt that questioning 9/11 is anything but fringe.


http://world911truth.org/us-town-pas...investigation/

somehow because they got 1/4 of the voters from a group of towns with whopping populations from 600-6000 makes truth more than fringe.

ETA: Why do these guys keep saying "media blackout" when every time they post a video it's Gage on some show spewing his woo? I guess by "blackout" they mean "WAAAAH! WHY IS THERE NO 24 HOUR TRUTH CHANNEL!?".

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Originally Posted by grandmastershek View Post
Fun withe truther logic!

The Vote For Answers resolution instructing New Hampshire’s congressional delegation “to pursue a new and independent investigation to address thoroughly all of the evidence and unanswered questions related to the events of September 11, 2001” passed 48 to 45 in Richmond (52% in favor).

To our disappointment seven other towns voted down the resolutions, however, the overall percentage of votes in favor (in towns where exact results were recorded) was 23%. In referendums on social issues that depend more on values than awareness of the facts, 77% to 23% might be a landslide. However, because of the painful implications of 9/11 not being what we were told, and the media blackout on critical examination of the official 9/11 account, about 1 in 4 voters calling for a new 9/11 investigation is an accomplishment we can be proud of – it shows beyond a shadow of a doubt that questioning 9/11 is anything but fringe.


http://world911truth.org/us-town-pas...investigation/

somehow because they got 1/4 of the voters from a group of towns with whopping populations from 600-6000 makes truth more than fringe.
If the town hall meetings represented a representative cross section of each towns population they might have a point but in each case only a small minority of residents could've been bothered to show up. The yes voters normally came out to about 5% or less of each town's eligible voters which is what polls tell us is the portion of the population who believes in MIHOP, CD and no plane at the Pentagon etc. Obviously truthers were a lot more motivated to go then normal people.

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NYCCAN'T's latest email relates to their "Building What?" phone/fax campaign, and is posted in full here:

http://911blogger.com/node/22924

An excerpt:

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We have three points to make:

1) A third building called World Trade Center Building 7 also collapsed on September 11th. This building housed the Office of Emergency Management’s Emergency Operations Center.

2) The federal government issued a report saying that office fires caused this building to collapse, however, there is overwhelming physical and testimonial evidence that this building was brought down with the use of explosives.

3) In response, 1,100 architects and engineers have signed a petition calling for a new investigation because the federal government’s report is deeply flawed and unscientific.
NYCCAN'T is showing its true truthy colours. Most of the time, they've just ranted on about wanting a new investigation, but this shows they are CD nuts through-and-through.
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Quote:
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"Among the four towns that have yet to vote, Barnstead will vote on Saturday, March 13, and Peterborough, Stoddard and Hanover will vote on May 11."
Barnstead have had their say:

Quote:
The following articles failed:

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-Article 29, a petitioned article asking voters to send a resolution to New Hampshire's Congressional delegation calling for a new investigation into the events of Sept. 11, 2001.
http://www.meredithnhnews.com/Articl...Barnstead.html

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