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Old 4th January 2010, 04:16 AM   #1
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Continuation - The PG Film - Bob Heironimus and Patty

Mod InfoContinued from here.

Since the original thread seems to have calmed down a bit, it is being taken off moderation. However, since it has become rather long, the original is closed and further discussion should take place here instead. Please remain civil and on topic. As a reminder, here is the opening post from the thread:
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This thread is for analysis of any evidence which relates to whether or not Bob Heironimus could have been Patty.

That includes:
1) Comparing Patty's apparent body proportions to Bob's....and, by extension, to humans, in general.

....and also...

2) All other types of evidence which relate to Bob H. possibly being the subject of the film.


Analysis of other aspects of Patty's hide...or "suit"....such as 'apparent muscle movements', can be done in a separate thread.
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Old 4th January 2010, 09:20 AM   #2
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From other thread here...

Originally Posted by lucaschorak
Hi everybody I am new to this.I came here for one thing I talked to Bob Heironimus on the phone.Any questions?

Hi, can you start by establishing your own legitimacy and truthfulness?
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Old 4th January 2010, 01:20 PM   #3
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William Parcher I got his phone number from a guy on youtube.Some things Bob H told me is that he is still friends with Gimlin.And his mother is ill.I am not allowed to give his phone number out because I promised to keep it private.What is a continuation thread?
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William Parcher I got his phone number from a guy on youtube.Some things Bob H told me is that he is still friends with Gimlin.And his mother is ill.I am not allowed to give his phone number out because I promised to keep it private.What is a continuation thread?
Finding a phone number is not all that difficult.
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Originally Posted by lucaschorak View Post
William Parcher I got his phone number from a guy on youtube.Some things Bob H told me is that he is still friends with Gimlin.And his mother is ill.I am not allowed to give his phone number out because I promised to keep it private.What is a continuation thread?
How does this establish your legitimacy and truthfulness? For that matter, how do those two revelations relate to Bob H. being/not being "Patty"?

(A continuation thread is just what the name implies - a thread which continues discussion of a topic from a previous thread.)
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I for one am curious how Bob H. and Bob G. can still be friends, given that H.'s claims make G. a gi-normous liar.

(Note that I'm not calling G. a liar; H. is calling G. a liar whether his claims are true or not.)
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I'm not really sure.I wanted you to know this because you would find it to be interesting.I know for a fact that Bob H was the guy in the suit.
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I'm not really sure.I wanted you to know this because you would find it to be interesting.I know for a fact that Bob H was the guy in the suit.
What are these facts?
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Originally Posted by lucaschorak View Post
I'm not really sure.I wanted you to know this because you would find it to be interesting.I know for a fact that Bob H was the guy in the suit.
It's interesting...but please explain how you know that for a fact?
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Hi everybody I am new to this.I came here for one thing I talked to Bob Heironimus on the phone.Any questions?


Sure....when did you talk to him? And, did you ask him many questions about his alleged performance, as Patty?

If so, was there anything noteworthy in any of his answers?



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I'm not really sure.I wanted you to know this because you would find it to be interesting.

I know for a fact that Bob H was the guy in the suit.

lucas, I've shown earlier in this thread....with 100% numerical certainty.....that Bob Heironimus could not possibly have been Patty....due to a difference in the reach of their elbows.

I'd love to hear how you "know" that he was Patty.
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Ummm, why not just give us the proof instead of beating around the bush? I don't mean to be curt, but whenever someone , online says " oh and i have proof of **X**" my first reaction is always " then why not post that instead of simply posting about posting that".
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I know this for a few reasons.It is because Tom Biscardi once offered Bob Gimlin to go somewhere with Bob H.Gimlin said he would meet Tom Biscardi and Bob H once he went to his house.When Bob H and Tom Biscardi went to Gimlin's home they saw Gimlin driving down the road running away from them.I have also seen pictures of Bob H riding a horse in reel 2.This proves Bob H was there when Patterson and Gimlin shot the film.Bob H even lives 9 houses away from Bob Gimlin.
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It is because Gimlin always runs away from Bob H.And the fact that Bob H was there the day Patterson and Gimlin shot the film.
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Originally Posted by lucaschorak View Post
I know this for a few reasons.It is because Tom Biscardi once offered Bob Gimlin to go somewhere with Bob H.Gimlin said he would meet Tom Biscardi and Bob H once he went to his house.When Bob H and Tom Biscardi went to Gimlin's home they saw Gimlin driving down the road running away from them.I have also seen pictures of Bob H riding a horse in reel 2.This proves Bob H was there when Patterson and Gimlin shot the film.Bob H even lives 9 houses away from Bob Gimlin.
Do you have proof of anything you just stated?
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I believe this poster is simply tugging our string. People who want to prove something generally don't make 6 posts out of a "proof" that would take one at most to explain.

Yawn.
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In as much as I want to I can't....
Please tell me you aren't just yanking our chains.

Can you tell us your relationship with Bob H.
How did you meet him?
Ever meet Gimlin?
Could you contact him?
Keep us updated.

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Originally Posted by lucaschorak View Post
I know this for a few reasons.It is because Tom Biscardi once offered Bob Gimlin to go somewhere with Bob H.Gimlin said he would meet Tom Biscardi and Bob H once he went to his house.When Bob H and Tom Biscardi went to Gimlin's home they saw Gimlin driving down the road running away from them.
Anecdotal evidence is not proof. How is this proof that Bob H. was "Patty"?

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I have also seen pictures of Bob H riding a horse in reel 2.This proves Bob H was there when Patterson and Gimlin shot the film.
How is that proof that Bob H. was "Patty"?

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Bob H even lives 9 houses away from Bob Gimlin.
How is that proof that Bob H. was "Patty"?

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It is because Gimlin always runs away from Bob H....
"Always"? You cited one anecdote-and now it has progressed to "always"? How do you know this? Have you been present every time Gimlin was allegedly supposed to meet with Bob H. since 1967 and personally seen Gimlin 'running away'?

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...And the fact that Bob H was there the day Patterson and Gimlin shot the film.
You already mentioned this. As often noted, Roger Patterson and Bob Gimlin were there that day, too. By your standard, one of them could have been "Patty".

ETA: You said earlier that the two Bob's are still friends...and now you are saying that Gimlin runs away every time he is supposed to meet with Bob H. That's not much of a friendship.
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Originally Posted by lucaschorak
Bob H told me is that he is still friends with Gimlin.
Originally Posted by lucaschorak
It is because Gimlin always runs away from Bob H.
You've convinced me! Oh no, wait, that doesn't make any sense. Silly me. What I meant to say was that your credibility has been hopelessly shot to hell in less than 5 posts.
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I don't know how to paste pictures.But you can clearly see Bob H in reel 2.Maybe this is evidence that Bob H is Patty not proof.Do you have any other questions?
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Do you have any other questions?
Mak, that you?

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In as much as I want to I can't....
Please tell me you aren't just yanking our chains.

Can you tell us your relationship with Bob H.
How did you meet him?
Ever meet Gimlin?
Could you contact him?
Keep us updated.

everyone knows there is a First for everything.
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Do you guys want to talk about something else about Bob H?I could ask Bob H anything you guys want me to ask him.
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Sounds like nothing but a troll wearing some dirty old socks, I would say...
Prove me wrong if you can.

ETA: I feel I was baited, just like others. Let's try to avoid troubles for ourselves and work to the mods.
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Yes, ask him how he reconciles his report that he and Gimlin are "still friends" with his report that "Gimlin always runs away from him". This should be fascinating.
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Yes, 2 things actually.

1. Why are you dragging out every question into a 6 post adventure.

2. Why would Bob be taking your questions, from us, and answering them, yet not directly answer them? Unless of course the answer is he likes to waste time, in which case, my first question is answered as well.
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Virtually everything you have said here is already known from recent interviews with Bob Heironimus as well as posted information. You could look back at my past postings and see that BH does remain friends with BG. Most of what you have stated is a repeat of the Biscardi/Heironimus radio interview and personal visit. A previous radio interview which also included Kal Korff includes more info.

The only moving film footage of BH on horseback is from Washington prior to the Bluff Creek Patty filming. We already know about that and have posted stills and links to the clip. We don't talk about that as being the "second reel" because that name is used for what was alleged to be filmed after the Patty encounter.

Unless you pull some rabbit out of a hat, I have no good reason to think that you did speak to BH.
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BH has publicly stated on the record that he and BG do remain personal friends. According to BH, his attempts to pursuade BG to confess have been futile. He actually went to BG before going public to tell him that he was going to confess to the world. Well he did, but BG continues to stick with the no-hoax story.
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I don't know how to paste pictures.But you can clearly see Bob H in reel 2.Maybe this is evidence that Bob H is Patty...
No. It's just evidence that Bob H. once rode a horse in front of a camera.

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Do you guys want to talk about something else about Bob H?I could ask Bob H anything you guys want me to ask him.
As William Parcher already pointed out, your 'revelations' from Bob H. are things that are already known - except for the claim that his mother is ill, which none of us would have any way to verify. So, really, relating questions to you to ask Bob H. is pointless, since we have no reason to believe that you have actually spoken or will speak to Bob H.

It's silly, really, to think that Bob H. would waste his time using an intermediary to repeat a bunch of stuff he has said before.
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I didn't know that William Parcher.Guys sorry for wasting your time.
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In as much as I want to I can't....
Please tell me you aren't just yanking our chains.

Can you tell us your relationship with Bob H.
How did you meet him?
Ever meet Gimlin?
Could you contact him?
Keep us updated.

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do I need to Spell it out for you?

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When Bob H's story came out in 1999.Bob Gimlin admitted he could have been fooled by Roger Patterson.I think that Gimlin was nervous when Bob H's story came out.
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BD, it's been taken care of

lucas, if you did talk to BH, he has not said anything new to you that wasn't known to us at least 2 years ago. Biscardi told the world that he tried getting both Bobs for the same interview but Gimlin wouldn't do it. BH is perfectly willing to talk on the record along with Gimlin, but not vice-versa.

As far as his mother Opal, she would be quite old now considering that Bob was in his early 20s in 1967.
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William Parcher one thing I want you to know is that Tom Biscardi visited Patricia Patterson who is Roger's widow 8 months ago.And according to Biscardi she said she would make a confession that it was a hoax.
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William Parcher one thing I want you to know is that Tom Biscardi visited Patricia Patterson who is Roger's widow 8 months ago.And according to Biscardi she said she would make a confession that it was a hoax.
Well, again, you're delving into the area of hearsay. Is there any other evidence, beyond Biscardi's say so, that Mrs. Patterson told him she would make a full confession that it was a hoax? Otherwise, it's her word against his...and neither is proof.
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Yeah its pretty much hearsay.I hope Biscardi isn't lying about it.Another thing is that Biscardi visited Roger Patterson in a hospital in 1970.Roger told Tom it was a hoax.I got this information from the guy on youtube who gave Bob H's phone number.
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William Parcher one thing I want you to know is that Tom Biscardi visited Patricia Patterson who is Roger's widow 8 months ago.And according to Biscardi she said she would make a confession that it was a hoax.

He visited Patricia in July 2008. Are you saying he has visited her again since then (April 2009)?

Biscardi is only sharing this stuff with you, a 19 year old, who then lets out the cat on JREF?
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Biscardi didn't tell me this information.It was ALLENMUSKY a guy on youtube who is friends with Tom Biscardi.Biscardi is also going to make a huge expedition to the PNW.
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Yeah its pretty much hearsay.
No, it's not "pretty much" hearsay - it IS hearsay. Plain and simple.

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Triple hearsay...and I have strong doubts that Patterson told anyone it was a hoax after initially promoting the film as the real thing.

Tom Biscardi can concoct any story he wants about exchanges he may have had with Roger Patterson. Patterson can't refute them, so Biscardi can't lose.
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Tom Biscardi is friends with Roger Patterson.When I make it to 15 posts I can post a link that shows Biscardi visited Bob H , Patricia Patterson and some other people.I'm 99% sure this will happen.I will look extremely foolish if this does not happen.
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Old 4th January 2010, 06:25 PM   #40
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Originally Posted by lucaschorak View Post
Biscardi didn't tell me this information.It was ALLENMUSKY a guy on youtube who is friends with Tom Biscardi.Biscardi is also going to make a huge expedition to the PNW.
YOU are ALLENMUSKY or should I call you Mr. Nospace?

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Todd refused to answer questions and pulled the picture from his web page.I'm saying his Sylvanic Group did
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Gilbert, I'm telling you they are not REAL.Peter Byrne, Rene Dehinden, Tom Slick have spent thier entire lives
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Gilbert, Dont bring a camcorder like Komo suggested.Bring some Jack links beef jerky and a 12 gauge shot gun...

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I will look extremely foolish if this does not happen.
Let's talk about now.You look foolish.Don't you think?
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