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33 Conspiracy Theories that were true

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From the New World Order Report

33 Conspiracy Theories That Turned Out To Be True, What Every Person Should Know...

This one should raise some eyebrows.

23. Kennedy Assassination - the 2nd Investigation by Congress Few People Know About, United States House of Representatives Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA)
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the gist of it:

1. The Dreyfus Affair
2. The Mafia
3. MK-ULTRA
4. Operation Mockingbird
5. Manhattan Project
6. Asbestos
7. Watergate
8. The Tuskegee Syphilis Study
9. Operation Northwoods
10. 1990 Testimony of Nayirah
11. Counter Intelligence Programs Against Activists in the 60s
12. The Iran-Contra Affair
13. The BCCI Scandal
14. CIA Drug Running in LA
15. Gulf of Tonkin Never Happened
16. The Business Plot
17. July 20, 1944 Conspiracy to Assassinate Hitler
18. Operation Ajax
19. Operation Snow White
20. Operation Gladio
21. The CIA Assassinates A Lot Of People (Church Committee)
22. The New World Order
23. Kennedy Assassination
24. 1919 World Series Conspiracy
25. Karen Silkwood
26. CIA Drug Smuggling in Arkansas
27. Bohemian Grove
28. Operation Paperclip
29. The Round Table
30. The Illuminati
31. The Trilateral Commission
32. Big Brother or the Shadow Government
33. The Federal Reserve Bank

seems to be a healthy mix of things exposed so soon after the fact that nutters never got a hold of it, and things the nutters only wish were true
 
They seem to confuse "conspiracies" with "conspiracy theories".
 
defaultdotxbe said:
the gist of it:

1. The Dreyfus Affair
2. The Mafia
3. MK-ULTRA
4. Operation Mockingbird
5. Manhattan Project
6. Asbestos
7. Watergate
8. The Tuskegee Syphilis Study
9. Operation Northwoods
10. 1990 Testimony of Nayirah
11. Counter Intelligence Programs Against Activists in the 60s
12. The Iran-Contra Affair
13. The BCCI Scandal
14. CIA Drug Running in LA
15. Gulf of Tonkin Never Happened
16. The Business Plot
17. July 20, 1944 Conspiracy to Assassinate Hitler
18. Operation Ajax
19. Operation Snow White
20. Operation Gladio
21. The CIA Assassinates A Lot Of People (Church Committee)
22. The New World Order
23. Kennedy Assassination
24. 1919 World Series Conspiracy
25. Karen Silkwood
26. CIA Drug Smuggling in Arkansas
27. Bohemian Grove
28. Operation Paperclip
29. The Round Table
30. The Illuminati
31. The Trilateral Commission
32. Big Brother or the Shadow Government
33. The Federal Reserve Bank

seems to be a healthy mix of things exposed so soon after the fact that nutters never got a hold of it, and things the nutters only wish were true
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There's a lot of crap in there that either never existed or were at worst never proven. There's at least half a dozen non-existant CTs in there.
 
Meh... a few of these are worthy of re-examination by some people, IMO, but this list shoots itself in the foot two ways going for 33. Ooooh, it's Masonic! This will hurt them, using their magic number back against them. And of course it's a large number so you have to fill it with stupid crap like "new world order" which has never been more than a phrase in itself. And they can't even include some major conspiracies that pan out pretty well, like the framing of al Megrahi for Lockerbie?
 
Well, as far as Lockerbie is concerned, I'm still not convinced it's conspiracy rather than cock-up.

But it does seem as if several of these are less well-attested than that one. Very few of these really class as conspiracy theories to my way of thinking.

Rolfe.
 
There's also some weird inclusions like ULTRA and the Manhattan Project. If you're going to stretch the definition of "conspiracy theory" to "every military project that wasn't broadcast to the public ahead of time," then I'm surprised they didn't throw in D-Day while they were at it.
 
It depends on what you mean, while the Illuminati is somewhat true but not the way they play it out.
 
ksbluesfan said:
From the New World Order Report

33 Conspiracy Theories That Turned Out To Be True, What Every Person Should Know...

This one should raise some eyebrows.
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The Kennedy "conspiracy" theory that the House ruled on has been pretty much debunked.

Besides, I don't think they ever came to a conclusion about what kind of conspiracy it was, just that there was another shooter (who missed).

"July 20, 1944 Conspiracy to Assassinate Hitler" Erm...including this one really shows how bottom-of-the-barrel this list is. A group of guys agree to kill Hitler together. They try to kill Hitler. They fail. They get executed. What a mysterious world of unseen forces we live in!

Why wasn't the gunpowder plot in there?

"The Federal Reserve Bank" Eh? I know this is a favourite topic for some conspiracy theorists, but what makes it a conspiracy? The fact that it takes more than one person to run a bank and that it exists?

Is "The Government" a conspiracy too?

"New World Order" LOL!!!1!
 
After reading the article released by Cracked.com, I decided to update and revise their sloppy work. Their article had only 7. I can name 33 and I am planning on releasing a revised list soon with up to 50. The article I was insulted to read by the lack of information can be viewed here, but don't waste your time, all of that is in this article and more.
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http://www.cracked.com/article_15974_p2.html

 
And again, I'll ask: in this list of "33 Conspiracy Theories", of the ones that we would agree were historical conspiracies, how many were actually the subject of any "theories" prior to their exposure? Were there lots of people running around, claiming that the Government was developing a "superweapon" prior to Hiroshima?

It's just another example of a CTer trying to borrow historical authority they don't deserve.
 
wowser

1. The Dreyfus Affair (OK, a conspiracy to blame an innocent man)
2. The Mafia (OK, a conspiracy, but not strictly in the meaning we usually associate with the term)
3. MK-ULTRA (OK, a conspiracy)
4. Operation Mockingbird (OK, a conspiracy)
5. Manhattan Project (Not really a conspiracy)
6. Asbestos Huh?
7. Watergate (OK, a conspiracy)
8. The Tuskegee Syphilis Study (OK, a conspiracy)
9. Operation Northwoods The memo exists but the plan was rejected.
10. 1990 Testimony of Nayirah ???
11. Counter Intelligence Programs Against Activists in the 60s (OK, a conspiracy)
12. The Iran-Contra Affair (OK, a conspiracy)
13. The BCCI Scandal (OK, a conspiracy)
14. CIA Drug Running in LA total bull hockey
15. Gulf of Tonkin Never Happened well, kinda. It’s more complicated than that.
16. The Business Plot ???
17. July 20, 1944 Conspiracy to Assassinate Hitler um, yeah, so? a conspiracy but like the Mafia, a private one
18. Operation Ajax OK, if you stretch the meaning of conspiracy a bit. All all covert actions "conspiracies"?
19. Operation Snow White (OK, a conspiracy but like the Mafia, a private one)
20. Operation Gladio not really a conspiracy, more a military contingency plan
21. The CIA Assassinates A Lot Of People (Church Committee) They did? They tried to kill several foreign leaders under orders from the President, but were not very successful. There were no death squads.
22. The New World Order jeeze….
23. Kennedy Assassination Oswald acting alone
24. 1919 World Series Conspiracy now we’re stretching it…
25. Karen Silkwood probably BS (I am reserving judgement)
26. CIA Drug Smuggling in Arkansas More BS
27. Bohemian Grove yet more BS
28. Operation Paperclip (OK, a conspiracy, if you take all classified operations to be a conspiracy)
29. The Round Table King Arthur?
30. The Illuminati fantasy
31. The Trilateral Commission more BS
32. Big Brother or the Shadow Government BS
33. The Federal Reserve Bank huh? If you mean that Jeckel island stuff, then BS

OK, not impressed. Less than a third of the entries might be considered a conspiracy, if you stretch the meaning of the term somewhat. More are total BS than real conspiracies..
 
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Myron Proudfoot said:
16. The Business Plot ???
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This is a conspiracy which may never have existed.

Apparently General Smedley Butler, AKA "The Fighting Quaker" or somewhat less impressively ""Old Gimlet Eye" or "Old Duckboard" had inklings of a plot by rich business men to overthrow FDR.

Did it happen? Dunno... don't really care especially when I heard it was something Gore Vidal obsessed over.

Someone once explained to me that it was the reason why FDR then had Huey Long assassinated or something like that...
 
The plot to kill Hitler was a conspiracy, but there was no conspiracy theory about it. A conspiracy theory would be "the CIA killed JFK and used Oswald as a patsy to cover it up." The plot to kill Hitler is well known, with a film about it being made as early as 1951. Where's the conspiracy theory?
 
Architect said:
They seem to confuse "conspiracies" with "conspiracy theories".
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They also seem to confuse "conspiracies" with "not conspiracies at all" and "didn't actually happen/doesn't exist".

Given the number of completely real conspiracies that have been exposed, it's rather sad that they felt the need to include a load of complete bollocks just to bulk out the numbers. After all, the argument is presumably along the lines of "There have been some real conspiracies, therefore our current favourite conspiracy must also be real". Given that there certainly have been some real conspiracies, why the need to lie? If that argument were valid, it would work if they stuck with reality. And since it's obviously not valid, it doesn't matter how many extra conspiracies they make up.

Meh, what am I thinking. Why would I expect conspiracy nuts to make sense?
 
Cuddles said:
Given the number of completely real conspiracies that have been exposed, it's rather sad that they felt the need to include a load of complete bollocks just to bulk out the numbers.
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And even with that, they included the CIA as drug smugglers twice.
 
Myron Proudfoot said:
1. The Dreyfus Affair (OK, a conspiracy to blame an innocent man)
2. The Mafia (OK, a conspiracy, but not strictly in the meaning we usually associate with the term)
3. MK-ULTRA (OK, a conspiracy)
4. Operation Mockingbird (OK, a conspiracy)
5. Manhattan Project (Not really a conspiracy)
6. Asbestos Huh?
7. Watergate (OK, a conspiracy)
8. The Tuskegee Syphilis Study (OK, a conspiracy)
9. Operation Northwoods The memo exists but the plan was rejected.
10. 1990 Testimony of Nayirah ???
11. Counter Intelligence Programs Against Activists in the 60s (OK, a conspiracy)
12. The Iran-Contra Affair (OK, a conspiracy)
13. The BCCI Scandal (OK, a conspiracy)
14. CIA Drug Running in LA total bull hockey
15. Gulf of Tonkin Never Happened well, kinda. It’s more complicated than that.
16. The Business Plot ???
17. July 20, 1944 Conspiracy to Assassinate Hitler um, yeah, so? a conspiracy but like the Mafia, a private one
18. Operation Ajax OK, if you stretch the meaning of conspiracy a bit. All all covert actions "conspiracies"?
19. Operation Snow White (OK, a conspiracy but like the Mafia, a private one)
20. Operation Gladio not really a conspiracy, more a military contingency plan
21. The CIA Assassinates A Lot Of People (Church Committee) They did? They tried to kill several foreign leaders under orders from the President, but were not very successful. There were no death squads.
22. The New World Order jeeze….
23. Kennedy Assassination Oswald acting alone
24. 1919 World Series Conspiracy now we’re stretching it…
25. Karen Silkwood probably BS (I am reserving judgement)
26. CIA Drug Smuggling in Arkansas More BS
27. Bohemian Grove yet more BS
28. Operation Paperclip (OK, a conspiracy, if you take all classified operations to be a conspiracy)
29. The Round Table King Arthur?
30. The Illuminati fantasy
31. The Trilateral Commission more BS
32. Big Brother or the Shadow Government BS
33. The Federal Reserve Bank huh? If you mean that Jeckel island stuff, then BS

OK, not impressed. Less than a third of the entries might be considered a conspiracy, if you stretch the meaning of the term somewhat. More are total BS than real conspiracies..
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They missed Ceaser's assassination with it's famous quote: "Eat two Brutus"
 
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