Why does God hate sex?

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This is a question that occurred to me while catching up on the "Love the Christian" thread. God hates sex. You can't have sex unless you are married - it's a sin. You can't have homosexual sex - it's a sin. You can't use birth control - it's a sin. You can't show bare skin in public - it's a sin. You can't masturbate - it's a sin.

In fact, according to God, you can only have sex with a married spouse, and only for the purposes of procreation. Ordained priests aren't supposed to have sex at all! What the hell does God have against sex?? And if it's bad, why the hell did he make it so damn good?

Note: keen readers will notice that I have mixed up sexual taboos from several different sects here and generalised the hell out of the whole argument. Deal with it.
 
Perhaps She wants people to enjoy it even more by making people think "Oooh, what I am doing is naughty!"

Of course, that would be unfalsifiable and silly.
 
well i think it's because god's on his/her own, you never hear about mrs god or mr god (don't want to be sexist) and if he's not getting any then he damn sure he's gonna try stop you from getting some.
 
"Why does God hate sex" sounds an awful lot like "Have you stopped beating your wife yet". ;)

The answer could be found studying the mindset of the people who made up this particular version of a god. Since I'm no expert, I'll leave the further argumentation to others.
 
If my catholic upbringing is right, it may be because he only got the chance to get some once... and i guess virgin Mary wasn´t that good :P...

But hey, you can tell he become more relaxed just right after that, compare the old testament god vs, new testament :D
 
stup_id said:
If my catholic upbringing is right, it may be because he only got the chance to get some once... and i guess virgin Mary wasn´t that good :P...

But hey, you can tell he become more relaxed just right after that, compare the old testament god vs, new testament :D
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Yea, that's why that warm and fuzzy place called "hell" and "eternal damnation" are introduced in the NT... ;)
 
Maybe it's like his kryptonite. Remember when he tried to kill moses, but was stopped in his tracks by a foreskin forcefield? (I wish I was making that up - Exodus 4:24-26!)
 
BobHaulk said:
well i think it's because god's on his/her own, you never hear about mrs god or mr god (don't want to be sexist) and if he's not getting any then he damn sure he's gonna try stop you from getting some.
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Ms. and Ms. God.

Or should that be Goddess? Or is that sexist?
 
"why god hates sex"

Because there is no god.

There are on the other hand priest which are after the power to control over believer. What's the easiest way to control somebody ? make them shameful, or accuse them of doing something bad (and not as one could assume to try to be friendly with them. That would leave them with their free will which is a no-no to control them). But what to accuse them of ? You have to accuse them of something which they keep doing and paint it ina wrong light. Drinking/eating is a bit too much, but sex is at the right level. So accuse them of having "bad" sex and accuse them of damaging the community. Control their sex life. Make sure you have to sanction their sex life (mariage) before it is seen as OK by the community at large. And so you have power over them.

I am not sure if I explain it clearly, but basically it is all a question of control of a small group over a larger one.
 
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There's only one God, so there's no one for him to have sex with, but he's omnipresent so he sees it all the time. That's gotta get frustrating.
 
Aepervius said:
"why god hates sex"

Because there is no god.

There are on the other hand priest which are after the power to control over believer. What's the easiest way to control somebody ? make them shameful, or accuse them of doing something bad (and not as one could assume to try to be friendly with them. That would leave them with their free will which is a no-no to control them). But what to accuse them of ? You have to accuse them of something which they keep doing and paint it ina wrong light. Drinking/eating is a bit too much, but sex is at the right level. So accuse them of having "bad" sex and accuse them of damaging the community. Control their sex life. Make sure you have to sanction their sex life (mariage) before it is seen as OK by the community at large. And so you have power over them.

I am not sure if I explain it clearly, but basically it is all a question of control of a small group over a larger one.
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Is it not interesting that sexual repression seems to be a common thread in many different religions?
 
Sledge said:
There's only one God, so there's no one for him to have sex with, but he's omnipresent so he sees it all the time. That's gotta get frustrating.
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It would be possible for this god to create another god to diddle with, surely.
 
God hates sex that He's not having Himself.

That's why sex is so awesome, but comes with so many restrictions. He even added STD's later just to mess it up worse for us.

But in Heaven? It's all moneyshots, all the time. The Blessed realm is constantly dripping with ejacujuices.
 
arthwollipot said:
Is it not interesting that sexual repression seems to be a common thread in many different religions?
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We've grown up with reliable birth control. Our ancestors did not.

It is extremely important to society to regulate the production of children, and until recently, there was no technological means to do that. They invented the anti-sexual attitudes associated with so many religions as a way to prevent adolescents from becoming parents, especially with the "wrong" sort of people. If you tell teenagers that sex outside of marriage will send them to Hell, there is at least some chance that the Lord of the Manor's daughter won't get knocked up by the cute stable boy.
 
arthwollipot said:
Is it not interesting that sexual repression seems to be a common thread in many different religions?
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Consider evolutionary psychology. Among many of our cousin primates, as well as other social species, the dominant males strive to monopolize reproduction. As others have pointed out in this thread, authoritarian religions are all about power and control over the social unit. The desire to control who may and may not reproduce, and under what circumstances, may be an atavistic artifact of this need to dominate the gene pool.
 
stup_id said:
If my catholic upbringing is right, it may be because he only got the chance to get some once... and i guess virgin Mary wasn´t that good :P...

But hey, you can tell he become more relaxed just right after that, compare the old testament god vs, new testament :D
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Mary to the Holy Ghost--------------"Was it good for you?"
 
arthwollipot said:
This is a question that occurred to me while catching up on the "Love the Christian" thread. God hates sex. You can't have sex unless you are married - it's a sin. You can't have homosexual sex - it's a sin. You can't use birth control - it's a sin. You can't show bare skin in public - it's a sin. You can't masturbate - it's a sin.

In fact, according to God, you can only have sex with a married spouse, and only for the purposes of procreation. Ordained priests aren't supposed to have sex at all! What the hell does God have against sex?? And if it's bad, why the hell did he make it so damn good?

Note: keen readers will notice that I have mixed up sexual taboos from several different sects here and generalised the hell out of the whole argument. Deal with it.
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If I may offer a correction, God does not always hate sex. In fact, I would say that:

God loves sex when it is useful to God,
God is ambivalent about sex when it does not impact God one way or the other, and
God hates sex when it is counter to his purpose.
 
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Early hucksters of religion needed to convince the masses that they needed the religion the hucksters were selling. The hucksters did this by convincing people that a normal human urge that everybody had was wrong, and that the only solution to their wickedness was to follow the teachings of the hucksters.
 
Aepervius said:
"why god hates sex"

Because there is no god.
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Just to be nitpicky, if there is no god, there isn't something that can exercise the emotion of hate toward much of anything, rendering the statement/question void of meaning. :)

Let me offer you an idea that God, as conventionally envisioned by Christians, might feel very favorably towards sex.

1. God is pleased by worship (If it pleases God, we can say He likes it, and most certainly doesn't hate it).
2. The more who worship the better
3. Instructions to "go forth, be fruitful, and multiply"
4. Sex as method for point 3.
5. Sex away, as you'll make more worshippers.
6. More worshippers, more pleased God, nothing but sweetness and light ...
7. (At some point here, am I supposed to say "Profit"? I forget the correct format.) ;)

There's only one God, so there's no one for him to have sex with, but he's omnipresent so he sees it all the time. That's gotta get frustrating.
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Good point. He might want to take a few pointers from Zeus. ;)
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The thread title should have been:

Why do some people imagine a god that doesn't like sex?

This is a much more productive question, I think.

A few responses:

  • They want to control what other people think and do
  • Sex is powerful and desirable. He who controls access to sex controls nearly everything.
  • They don't want other people to have fun
  • They aren't good at it and want to level the playing field
  • Nearly everyone is sexual. By making sex dirty (inappropriate, forbidden, controlled), they instantly make nearly everyone guilty of something
 
The Mormons have a Mr. and Mrs. God. They're still pretty repressive about sex, though, so that clearly didn't solve the problem.
 
I'm kind of with Meadmaker on this. Marvin Harris (anthropologist) points out that many religious notions we think of as odd (like dietary regulations) have a good, solid economic basis.
To folks living back then, often in a rather marginal existence with early death the norm...Procreation is vitally important. A tribe or a people has to reproduce rapidly enough to cover losses, and at the same time must have some sort of order in society regarding the "ownership" of those children.
 
arthwollipot said:
This is a question that occurred to me while catching up on the "Love the Christian" thread. God hates sex. You can't have sex unless you are married - it's a sin. You can't have homosexual sex - it's a sin. You can't use birth control - it's a sin. You can't show bare skin in public - it's a sin. You can't masturbate - it's a sin.

In fact, according to God, you can only have sex with a married spouse, and only for the purposes of procreation. Ordained priests aren't supposed to have sex at all! What the hell does God have against sex?? And if it's bad, why the hell did he make it so damn good?

Note: keen readers will notice that I have mixed up sexual taboos from several different sects here and generalised the hell out of the whole argument. Deal with it.
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And you take a gander at God's blue marble every one and every thing is doing the dirty deed from the tiny microbes to the great blue whales. God botherers have got to do some serious hiding if they want to get away from sex... Even those paper bags on their heads won't keep them safe, the sneezes? Those are from the plant sex going down.:p
 
Meadmaker said:
We've grown up with reliable birth control. Our ancestors did not.

It is extremely important to society to regulate the production of children, and until recently, there was no technological means to do that. They invented the anti-sexual attitudes associated with so many religions as a way to prevent adolescents from becoming parents, especially with the "wrong" sort of people. If you tell teenagers that sex outside of marriage will send them to Hell, there is at least some chance that the Lord of the Manor's daughter won't get knocked up by the cute stable boy.
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Who are u kidding.. in the last 50 years the population on earth has doubled, compared to the last 1950 years with such a thing as 'birth control' available lol.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population
 
Well, I actually had sex once, and let me tell you, it was dirty and disgusting. There was social awkwardness and an embarrassing mess to clean. It was sweaty and some animal noises happened. The shame lingers for a life time.

God had damn good reasons for his tastes.

He also hates clams.
 
arthwollipot said:
This is a question that occurred to me while catching up on the "Love the Christian" thread. God hates sex. You can't have sex unless you are married - it's a sin. You can't have homosexual sex - it's a sin. You can't use birth control - it's a sin. You can't show bare skin in public - it's a sin. You can't masturbate - it's a sin.

In fact, according to God, you can only have sex with a married spouse, and only for the purposes of procreation. Ordained priests aren't supposed to have sex at all! What the hell does God have against sex?? And if it's bad, why the hell did he make it so damn good?

Note: keen readers will notice that I have mixed up sexual taboos from several different sects here and generalised the hell out of the whole argument. Deal with it.
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Sex brings feelings into play and thats pretty much it full stop.

So to not create feelings of envy, hate, wrath, lust etc between individuals cause someone is having sex with someone who isn't married and other wants to with the same person. For example, ladyB isnt married and ManC had sex with her, ManB finds out and wants to have sex with ladyB also and does so. ManC finds out, grows hate and wants to kill ManB for it(same happens if someone cheats when in a marriage, maybe not also as extreme as killing but it does happen you cant deny that).

Now marriage is there to try and stop that. If someone is married we know they are spoken for and it usually ends right there (i'll put a spin on this, as ive thought about this abit also, if both people in the marriage are happy for one to have sex with another person in a marriage and they are both happy, willing for the other to do so, acceptance of it. LadyX from the first married couple may have sex with ManY from the second married couple. However if one disagrees, it cannot be).

Also something to do with sperm, eggs, they're alive. Why no wanking and hinting to only have sex to procreate.

Holy spirit could be female and that was how Jesus was created, and Adam and Eve. Hence why he doesn't like homo's.

Birth control a sin? haven't read that but i think i have a fate memory of someone saying it before, tho i didn't think they had any form of birth control back in them days to relate too? unless you mean abortion.
 
rorylee said:
Who are u kidding.. in the last 50 years the population on earth has doubled, compared to the last 1950 years with such a thing as 'birth control' available lol.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population
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It would be interesting to think about in what regions the birthrate is highest, and the socioeconomic status in those areas.

It would also be interesting to think about how influential religion was in those areas.
 
Why would God create something he hated? Genesis is clear. He told Adam and Eve to procreate. They couldn't do it without having sex. So hatred of sex by the biblical God is a rather weird idea. Maybe what you mean is sex outside of matrimony. Or perhaps sex between members of the same gender. Or sex with between humans and animals. Then it would not be sex per-se as you make it seem but sex under certain circumstances which the biblical God declares unclean or inappropriate.
 
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Because God is a homophobic, repressed homosexual, with sadomasochistic tendencies who got raped when he was little and projects his hatred and fear on the rest of mankind.





















































I dunno, just a guess
 
Radrook said:
Why would God create something he hated? Genesis is clear. He told Adam and Eve to procreate. They couldn't do it without having sex. So hatred of sex by the biblical God is a rather weird idea. Maybe what you mean is sex outside of matrimony. Or perhaps sex between members of the same gender. Then it would not be sex per-se as you make it seem but sex under certain circumstances which the biblical God declares inappropriate.
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Yeah, if you'd actually read more than the title of my post, you'd realise that I was talking about exactly that.
 
arthwollipot said:
In fact, according to God, you can onlyhave sex with a married spouse, and only for the purposes of procreation.
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Actually, a lot of modern Protestants very much deny that last part. Google "hot monogamy". Many Evangelicas are explicit that sex is to be enjoyed, including kinky sex if that's your taste. As long as you only do it with your married spouse.
 
Mark6 said:
Actually, a lot of modern Protestants very much deny that last part. Google "hot monogamy". Many Evangelicas are explicit that sex is to be enjoyed, including kinky sex if that's your taste. As long as you only do it with your married spouse.
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This is also, as I understand it, the Jewish attitude.
 
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