New World Order

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Over the years fear of "The New World Order" has been thrown around with people terrified of it happening and the loads of conspiracy theories about it.

Excepting the connection that some give between the New World Order and the Christian concepts of the end-times, I've never really understood what the fear was about.

What are the reasons for the fear of a "New World Order"??
 
It's the fear of a totalitarian regime, that can do as they please, like sending you to FEMA death camp without trial. A regime that watches your every step, like Big Brother watching everyone's YouTube channel. It's kind of the regime that orchestrated 9/11 but with an attitude.

Eta: Where political leaders speak of A new world order, the conspiracy believers talk of THE New World Order.
 
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A good albeit fictional representation of this idea is the government from the movie "V for Vendetta"
 
What are the reasons for the fear of a "New World Order"??
NWO panic first appeared by name in the US during the 1990s, after Russia withdrew from world affairs and the Bush administration stopped using the Cold War conflict as the public basis of foreign policy.

The majority of Americans had grown up on Cold War propganda. The conflict between the US and Russia was fundamental, they were told. It was uncompromisable. The UN was a commie front because it didn't toe the US policy line. Peace and cooperation were illusions sold by traitors. So when the president himself started talking about settling with Russia and strengthening the UN, is it any surprise that the true believers went nuts?
 
Earlier than that, Gazpacho. I recall loons complaining that Jimmy Carter was a member of the "Trilateral Commission", and would work hand in glove with those folks to bring about the NWO...
The Wiki article lists a book coming out about 1871 warning of the coming NWO.
 
One NWO CT believer told me that the world's elite know that there has to be population reduction so "THEY" are going to put RFID chips in us all, send us to FEMA camps and reduce the world's population to half a million people. There are underground bunkers that "THEY" will operate from.

By the way I think all the JREF members are marked for termination!
 
I recall loons complaining that Jimmy Carter was a member of the "Trilateral Commission", and would work hand in glove with those folks to bring about the NWO.
If the loons stopped there they'd have it right; there is a Trilateral Commission, it was a major influence in the Carter administration, and its representatives in the administration were pursuing certain paternalistic ideas of order.
 
Earlier than that, Gazpacho. I recall loons complaining that Jimmy Carter was a member of the "Trilateral Commission", and would work hand in glove with those folks to bring about the NWO...
The Wiki article lists a book coming out about 1871 warning of the coming NWO.

There is also H.G. Wells' 1940 book "The New World Order"

Wiki article
Google book
 
What are the reasons for the fear of a "New World Order"??

I think it can be summed up most simply by quoting the upcoming changes to Texas school books

When learning about U.S. history since 1877, students will now have to learn to
(C)Evaluate efforts by global organizations to undermine U. S. sovereignty.

The stated reason for this change is
JUSTIFICATION

Threats of global government to individual freedom and liberty include
the votes of the U. N. General Assembly, the International Criminal
Court, the U. N. Gun Ban proposal, forced redistribution of American
wealth to third world countries, and global environmental initiatives.


ETA: Disclaimer: I think worrying about the NWO is a bit silly.
 
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With the loons, they seem to think the only nation on the planet that is free is the United States. Obviously more level thinkers see how many countries have stepped up to the plate when their freedom was challenged. They also have an investment in who they are

Consider this.....The United States industrial capacity with the Indian manpower pool. Just those two nations in partnership alone would be enough to have the NWO cowering under its bed
 
Over the years fear of "The New World Order" has been thrown around with people terrified of it happening and the loads of conspiracy theories about it.

Excepting the connection that some give between the New World Order and the Christian concepts of the end-times, I've never really understood what the fear was about.

What are the reasons for the fear of a "New World Order"??

Basically, the New World Order in conspiracy terms is everything there is to fear. The term refers to a shadowy cabal elite of the same name, formed from the most powerful people on earth that no-one has heard of. They aim to unite the worlds nation under one government and one currency, and to 'depopulate the world' down to 2 billion. They also expect that with only a third of humanity, they can give 2/3 of the populated Earth back to nature, and live on the remaining third.

The government in question will be very left wing, and may reflect many aspects of 'The Party' from 1984. What you will notice is that in every version of the New World Order, the exact specifics change to reflect what people fear. Moreover, it is generally agreed that whatever their policy, it will be pursued recklessly, with complete disregard to personal freedoms.

The main hype you observe is how people have interpreted that the New World Order have started to enforce their policy already. You will most probably be able to find a New World order that's been blamed for everything, from AIDS to the Holocaust, mostly due to their policy of 'depopulation'.

The New World Order theory has been happily blended with other conspiracy theories over past years, so nowadays what some conspiracists understand by New World Order is completely different from what others understand of the theory. Recently people have identified the New World Order as a bit of a scapegoat for some of the more nasty events in modern history, which is essentially what the New World Order has become. Other discernable points of interest is that in most versions, the New World Order represents a very centralised form of power, and can be seen as an extreme left wing group. This reflects in a way the identity of the main believers in the New World Order theory.


I personally see it as a way of viewing how and when times change from one thing to the next. The identity of the New World Order nowadays seems to reflect the polarization of US politics that exists today, thanks to Obama's rather liberalist outlook after years of Republican policy.

The main point to remember, and by far the most important thing to remember is that all the evidence you see from the New World Order is where people have invented a reason for the New World Order's involvement. THere is no actual solid proof of it's existence. When politicians speak of a New World Order, it just means that the order of things in the world has changed, and that's all. This is one of the main things that many NWO supporters misinterpret, as the political meaning of the term actually existed before the idea of the New World Order as a conspiracy. Lastly, NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM means 'a new order of the ages' and not 'new world order'. NORVUS ORDO SECLORUM is found on the United States 1$ bill. The All Seeing Eye is part of the Great Seal of the United States of America, and a full interpretation of the symbolism within the Seal can be found on Wikipedia, of all places.

Hopefully at least some of the above should help.
 
There is also H.G. Wells' 1940 book "The New World Order"

Wiki article
Google book

I'll see your two books and raise you a text caled "Enki and the world Order" (EWO)
http://etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk/cgi-bi...lay=Crit&charenc=gcirc&lineid=t113.p1#t113.p1

Its around 4200 years old
Enki ceased to be chief of the Gods in 300 years later, when the New world order was arranged by the God Bel Marduk at the start of the Babylonian period (1900bce)
By the way I think all the JREF members are marked for termination!
Only those JREF members who aren't worshipping the one true God of the New world order (above)
:D
 
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Yes, yes, I know the phrase was in use before the 1990s. What matters is when and why it became a leading conspiracy theory.

Its around 4200 years old
Enki ceased to be chief of the Gods in 300 years later, when the New world order was arranged by the God Bel Marduk at the start of the Babylonian period (1900bce)
Lyndon LaRouche was right! :eek:
 
From what I gather, it appears that the main fear that I was speaking about requires a leap over logic equating "One World Government" immediately with "Totalitarian Regime"

I guess the logic blocks in my brain don't tend to make that connection without requiring more info.
 
From what I gather, it appears that the main fear that I was speaking about requires a leap over logic equating "One World Government" immediately with "Totalitarian Regime"
This also matches up with the Cold War propaganda mentality, as reflected in this 1949 HUAC pamphlet:
http://www.archive.org/details/100thingsyoushou1949unit

"What is Communism?"
"A system by which one small group seeks to rule the world."

"Will I be able to do X, Y or Z under Communism?"
"No. The Communists will control X, Y and Z."

"What will happen to my insurance?"
"The Communists will take it over."
 
Frequenting woo boards myself, I get a kick out of seeing that the NWO supposedly came together some time between Ancient Sumer or the slightly more recent 1950's.

Also, it supposedly contains Dragonians/Reptillians, which includes every influential person in the world at all, and several people on Youtube.

As well as the Bakers the Quakers, the candle stick makers, the Masons, and the Chemists, the Pope, Mormons...

I do have to admit, the Mormons are particularly suspicious...
 
Speaking for myself I remember the threats to world peace in this order (most recent first)
1. NWO
2. Illuminati
3. Annunaki
4. Russians
5. Germans
6. Martians

Though obviously I have only ever seen any evidence that the last three exist, but obviously their threat turned out to be exaggerated
:p
 
When politicians speak of a New World Order, it just means that the order of things in the world has changed, and that's all. This is one of the main things that many NWO supporters misinterpret, as the political meaning of the term actually existed before the idea of the New World Order as a conspiracy.

Here are a couple of examples that probably lead some CTers to **** bricks lol.

 
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Are the NWO in competition with the Illuminati? I mean they are all lizard people, that much is obvious.
 
6. Martians

Though obviously I have only ever seen any evidence that the last three exist, but obviously their threat turned out to be exaggerated
:p
Martians exaggerated?
*monocle pops out*
Great Scott, man! We were only saved by the humblest things that God, in his wisdom, has put upon this earth.

Bacteria, not televesion evangelists and psychics.
 
When politicians speak of a New World Order, it just means that the order of things in the world has changed, and that's all.
You make it sound a bit more passive than it often is when some political machine gets its guy into the White House after years of discussions about how the world should be ordered.

George H. W. Bush, in particular, was clearly not talking about how things were, but a program to remake them a certain way.
 
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The conspiracy theory paradigm is embraced by so many because it presents a simple way to understand the world: a monolithic struggle of the shining lights of goodness (the conspiracy theorists) versus and unstopped evil cabal hell-bent on world domination. The NWO - like the Bilderbergs, the Trialteral Commission, Freemasonry, the Vatican, the Jesuits, etc. have all filled that role of the great and terrible evil that the conspiracy theorist fights valiantly against by educating the sheeple.

I think the NWO is a particualrly attractive option for the "manaical evil organization" side of this equation because in reality it doesn't exist - that what makes it very easy to shape for the conspiracy theorist. The problem with using the Vatican, the Jews, the Bilderbergs, etc. as the unstoppable evil force is that these organizations exist and the imagination can only run so far.

But the NWO - being a fictional organization with no basis in reality - is the epitome of the shadowy cabal. It lurks from the shadows, emanates pure evil, and the conspiracy theorist can mold and shape it to fit the perfect type of evil that he or she wishes to fight against as the force of enlightenment.

Ultimately, fear is the coin of the realm for conspiracy theorists. It is what they live on - and it is central to the worldview. They keep themselves (and others) in a constant state of irrational fear. The NWO is the culmination of that fear.
 
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"What is Communism?"
"A system by which one small group seeks to rule the world."

"Will I be able to do X, Y or Z under Communism?"
"No. The Communists will control X, Y and Z."

"What will happen to my insurance?"
"The Communists will take it over."
Seems pretty accurate, except they left out the part about killing tens of millions of people.
 
I read this thing once where this guy was claiming there's a Chinese gang even more powerful than the Illuminati - and that it is their mission to destroy the "New World Order," specifically its architects, the Rothschild [European] and Rockefeller [American] clans.

I believe he said they had ninjas strategically placed throughout the world, and that at a moment's notice they could get all ninja and take someone out if given the order.

Ninjas dude. Ninjas.
 
Why would the Chinese have ninjas? Have Japan and China secretly settled their differences?
 
I read this thing once where this guy was claiming there's a Chinese gang even more powerful than the Illuminati - and that it is their mission to destroy the "New World Order," specifically its architects, the Rothschild [European] and Rockefeller [American] clans.

I believe he said they had ninjas strategically placed throughout the world, and that at a moment's notice they could get all ninja and take someone out if given the order.

Ninjas dude. Ninjas.

LOL, yeah that was a good one...I believe the guy in question was Benjamin Fulford.


What are the reasons for the fear of a "New World Order"??


Basically, because most people who believe in a new world order, believe the people behind it are evil maniacs. Alot of the truth movement is made up of christians as well. They look around and see the decline of faith as an engineered thing, perpetrated by these satan worshipping mad men.

It's all about point of view; most anti NWO types are from the political left, new age/earth/hippy, christian right and nazi & communist movements. Put those all together you get a common enemy in the liberalism & globalization trend that's happening. In a nutshell, the world is changing and all these groups don't like it for their own reasons. The Conspiracy movement is an amalgam of all these fears.


Nazis = don't like multiculturalism
Christians = don't like sexual freedom, abortion etc.
Hippies = don't like Corporations
Communists/socialists = don't like capitalism/big business

All of them = don't like the modern world, so they think someone is out to get them and are purposefully changing it. Which they are to a degree, but that's what establishments do. a NWO is therefore anything you disagree with!
 
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Why would the Chinese have ninjas? Have Japan and China secretly settled their differences?

He said Japan is split: half are with the Chinese and the other half with the Euro/Americans. Apparently the ninjas can be anywhere with disguises ranging from cook to humble immigrant to Mr. Joshua.


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@ Red3

Yes! Benjamin freaking Fulford... hilarious
 
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I'm not sure there's anything more terrifying than the thought of Gary Busey: ninja assassin.
 
I read this thing once where this guy was claiming there's a Chinese gang even more powerful than the Illuminati - and that it is their mission to destroy the "New World Order," specifically its architects, the Rothschild [European] and Rockefeller [American] clans.

I believe he said they had ninjas strategically placed throughout the world, and that at a moment's notice they could get all ninja and take someone out if given the order.

Ninjas dude. Ninjas.

He's a cousin of mine, embarrassing as that is.
Never met him, though.
 
I can't help but think that the Protocols of the Elders of Zion served as a template for many of these NWO/Illuminati/World Government type conspiracy theories.
 
I can't help but think that the Protocols of the Elders of Zion served as a template for many of these NWO/Illuminati/World Government type conspiracy theories.

They did, no doubt about it.
 

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