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One of the most misunderstood issue of 9/11.

Most people (even after watching the videos) think that the dust was caused by concrete floors crashing down onto one another.

They saw all the dust. They know concrete can get smashed eventually into dust if you work hard at it. They twisted their minds around the gargantuan amount of dust seen rolling down the street, and then said, "Concrete. It's all concrete."

Wrong. That dust was steel, concrete, glass, wood, ceramic and everything inside the building. Almost the entire building was turned into dust, and that dust was a horrible, noxious thing. Unlike any dust you've ever seen before, and certainly unlike concrete (although it is the color of concrete).

I know about the dust because I've seen it with my own eyes and touched it with my own hands. I inhaled the stuff, on accident. I still have some of the dust, too. Pretty shocking, huh? Or are you still not impressed and working on this idea that I must be a fraud because I'm not saying what everyone else is saying.

As far as I know, none of you ever saw the dust in real life. Has anyone?
 
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WTC Dust said:
One of the most misunderstood issue of 9/11.

Most people (even after watching the videos) think that the dust was caused by concrete floors crashing down onto one another.

They saw all the dust. They know concrete can get smashed eventually into dust if you work hard at it. They twisted their minds around the gargantuan amount of dust seen rolling down the street, and then said, "Concrete. It's all concrete."

Wrong. That dust was steel, concrete, glass, wood, ceramic and everything inside the building. Almost the entire building was turned into dust, and that dust was a horrible, noxious thing. Unlike any dust you've ever seen before, and certainly unlike concrete (although it is the color of concrete).

I know about the dust because I've seen it with my own eyes and touched it with my own hands. I inhaled the stuff, on accident. I still have some of the dust, too. Pretty shocking, huh? Or are you still not impressed and working on this idea that I must be a fraud because I'm not saying what everyone else is saying.

As far as I know, none of you ever saw the dust in real life. Has anyone?
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Cool story bro.

Remember, no one here is from New York. ^^rolls eyes^^
 
WTC Dust said:
One of the most misunderstood issue of 9/11.

Most people (even after watching the videos) think that the dust was caused by concrete floors crashing down onto one another.

They saw all the dust. They know concrete can get smashed eventually into dust if you work hard at it. They twisted their minds around the gargantuan amount of dust seen rolling down the street, and then said, "Concrete. It's all concrete."

Wrong. That dust was steel, concrete, glass, wood, ceramic and everything inside the building. Almost the entire building was turned into dust, and that dust was a horrible, noxious thing. Unlike any dust you've ever seen before, and certainly unlike concrete (although it is the color of concrete).

I know about the dust because I've seen it with my own eyes and touched it with my own hands. I inhaled the stuff, on accident. I still have some of the dust, too. Pretty shocking, huh? Or are you still not impressed and working on this idea that I must be a fraud because I'm not saying what everyone else is saying.

As far as I know, none of you ever saw the dust in real life. Has anyone?
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Two questions.

1: Who is saying the dust was all concrete?
2: What is your point?
 
dtugg said:
How was steel turned to dust? Gigantic laser from outer space?
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Very good question. I'm waiting it out on this one. Dr. Wood says that an "energy weapon" is the likely cause. I prefer to think of it as a "Tesla weapon" or an "electrical weapon", but I could very well be wrong on this.

It certainly wasn't gravity, as the "collapse" model expects you to believe.
 
If most of the steel turned to dust what was all that stuff they shipped off to be recycled?

How magnetic is your dust sample?
 
Redtail said:
Two questions.

1: Who is saying the dust was all concrete?
2: What is your point?
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"Who"? Um...lotsa people? Do you make the claim that the dust was entirely concrete? I say no, and that is my point. The dust was steel and all the rest of the contents of the WTC buildings, not just the concrete.
 
WTC Dust said:
Wrong. That dust was steel, concrete, glass, wood, ceramic and everything inside the building. Almost the entire building was turned into dust, .........

I know about the dust because I've seen it with my own eyes and touched it with my own hands. I inhaled the stuff, on accident. I still have some of the dust, too.
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A number of studies analysed dust taken from a variety of locations. There was very little iron in it.

This makes sense, as the steel was picked up and shipped out of GZ on lorries in a condition very close to its original.
 
WTC Dust said:
Being from New York doesn't mean you've examined the WTC dust. Has anyone, other than me?
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Who cares? It is not as if you conducted tests and established that there was anything unexpected in the dust (like steel). You just looked at it. So what?
 
WTC Dust said:
... That dust was steel,...
As far as I know, none of you ever saw the dust in real life. Has anyone?
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Steel was turned to dust; nonsense, insane claim.

Some people who post at JREF have seen the dust, and know saying it is steel is insane.
 
Reactor drone said:
If most of the steel turned to dust what was all that stuff they shipped off to be recycled?

How magnetic is your dust sample?
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I've never seen any direct evidence that the steel was shipped off to be recycled, only hearsay evidence.

Look at the hole on 9/12, and there isn't actually that much steel. The pile at Ground Zero was shorter than two stories high. I saw this with my own eyes on 9/14/01. The "pile" at Ground Zero was not visible above a ten foot fence from ground level, although a few taller pieces were sticking up.

What was visible was the fumes, and I say the fumes and the dust were different forms of the same thing: the WTC buildings and contents.
 
WTC Dust said:
Very good question. I'm waiting it out on this one. Dr. Wood says that an "energy weapon" is the likely cause. I prefer to think of it as a "Tesla weapon" or an "electrical weapon", but I could very well be wrong on this.

It certainly wasn't gravity, as the "collapse" model expects you to believe.
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So you have proof that a such a weapon exists and can dustify steel, yes?

(Rhetorical question. You, of course have nothing.)

You understand why normal people think that you and Judy Wood are insane, right?
 
beachnut said:
Steel was turned to dust; nonsense, insane claim.

Some people who post at JREF have seen the dust, and know saying it is steel is insane.
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The dust isn't steel. It used to be steel. And what's so "insane" about that? You can't think of a process that can turn steel into dust? Well, learn something. Can only point you the way. Can't make you go there.
 
WTC Dust said:
I've never seen any direct evidence that the steel was shipped off to be recycled, only hearsay evidence.

Look at the hole on 9/12, and there isn't actually that much steel. The pile at Ground Zero was shorter than two stories high. I saw this with my own eyes on 9/14/01. The "pile" at Ground Zero was not visible above a ten foot fence from ground level, although a few taller pieces were sticking up.

What was visible was the fumes, and I say the fumes and the dust were different forms of the same thing: the WTC buildings and contents.
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Smoke? You left out smoke, it might be your fumes stuff. You are not a research scientist you are a paranoid dustified steel conspiracy theorist.

As a research scientist it is strange you failed to bring evidence, and missed the reports on the dust at the WTC. Very... whatever
 
WTC Dust said:
The dust isn't steel. It used to be steel. And what's so "insane" about that? You can't think of a process that can turn steel into dust? Well, learn something. Can only point you the way. Can't make you go there.
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This steel would still be present in the dust and easily analysed as such. It wasn't. It wasn't there.
 
dtugg said:
So you have proof that a such a weapon exists and can dustify steel, yes?

(Rhetorical question. You, of course have nothing.)

You understand why normal people think that you and Judy Wood are insane, right
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I do not have definitive proof of any electrical weapon. I have only forensic evidence that rules out gravity and explosives. I haven't even proved an electrical weapon did it, yet, not to mention that I haven't found the exact weapon.

Normal people aren't highly educated and creative, like Dr. Wood and me. Normal people like to watch football and purchase shiny objects. Count me out.
 
WTC Dust said:
The dust isn't steel. It used to be steel. And what's so "insane" about that? You can't think of a process that can turn steel into dust? Well, learn something. Can only point you the way. Can't make you go there.
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If you have proof that a device exists which can turn a couple hundred thousand tons of steel to dust in seconds, go ahead and post it. If not, there is no reason for any sane person to believe it exists.
 
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WTC Dust said:
The dust isn't steel. It used to be steel. And what's so "insane" about that? You can't think of a process that can turn steel into dust? Well, learn something. Can only point you the way. Can't make you go there.
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Right the dust used to be steel but now it is not steel, it is dust that is not steel dust. What did Fe turn into, super research scientist? Fe dust, or use to be Fe, now some sort of super not steel but some kind of dust stuff?

Still waiting for the kinetic energy formula. Found it yet?

Book em dano
 
GlennB said:
This steel would still be present in the dust and easily analysed as such. It wasn't. It wasn't there.
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OK. I tend to believe all the peer reviewed papers that mention the iron that was found in the dust and I'm not talking about Steven Jones' ridiculous non-peer reviewed travesty of a paper, either.

They found iron in the dust. Steel is 98% iron. Where's the question?
 
WTC Dust said:
I do not have definitive proof of any electrical weapon.
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Of course you don't. It is not possible to prove something that didn't happen.

I have only forensic evidence that rules out gravity and explosives.
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No you don't. If you had such evidence, you would present it. But you can't present it since you don't have it.

I haven't even proved an electrical weapon did it, yet, not to mention that I haven't found the exact weapon.
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For the very good reason that it doesn't exist.

Normal people aren't highly educated and creative, like Dr. Wood and me. Normal people like to watch football and purchase shiny objects. Count me out.
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Normal people aren't mentally ill.
 
WTC Dust said:
... I have only forensic evidence that rules out gravity and explosives. ...
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That is a lie.

Where are you hiding the evidence. So far you have only talk, talk of moronic delusions? Post your evidence. You don't have evidence.

You are not a research scientist, you are a paranoid conspiracy theorist, spreading lies and delusions about 911.
 
beachnut said:
Right the dust used to be steel but now it is not steel, it is dust that is not steel dust. What did Fe turn into, super research scientist? Fe dust, or use to be Fe, now some sort of super not steel but some kind of dust stuff?

Still waiting for the kinetic energy formula. Found it yet?

Book em dano
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Steel is not iron. Iron was found. Steel is a particular formulation of chemicals that includes iron and carbon and other trace elements heated and treated certain ways.

The iron that was found used to be caught up in the steel, but the steel got pulverized down to the elements, which results in iron being detected.

Why are you asking me for the formula for kinetic energy? I'm not your monkey, and I don't dance at the tip of anyone's finger. Find it yourself and tell me why you think it's important.
 
WTC Dust said:
The iron that was found used to be caught up in the steel, but the steel got pulverized down to the elements, which results in iron being detected.
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Prove it, twoofer.

Shockingly, you have posted no evidence whatsoever. I wonder why that is.:rolleyes:
 
beachnut said:
That is a lie.

Where are you hiding the evidence. So far you have only talk, talk of moronic delusions? Post your evidence. You don't have evidence.

You are not a research scientist, you are a paranoid conspiracy theorist, spreading lies and delusions about 911.
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Oh, Beachnut. You're so persistent. I'm already starting to like you. Bashing my credentials really isn't going to work out for you, because I'm solid. Try debunking the science, kk? Or actually, what I'd like you to do is to debunk the science of Dr. Judy Wood, or try to. Insults don't actually debunk anything, by the way, although they seem to make you feel good about yourself.
 
dtugg said:
Normal people aren't mentally ill.
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Hey man, if 9/11 didn't get under your skin, I don't know why else you'd be posting in this section of the JREF forums. I haven't actually presented any evidence at all, and you're already insulting me.

Wait for the candy, then eat it.
 
WTC Dust said:
Why are you asking me for the formula for kinetic energy? I'm not your monkey, and I don't dance at the tip of anyone's finger. Find it yourself and tell me why you think it's important.
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I bet you don't answer "gotcha" questions too.

Right?


Compus
 
you do know that there were other elements in and 110 story OFFICE BUILDING that contains IRON right?

chair
cabinets
sinks
plumbing
elevators
cables


tghe list is endless.

so what is the "suspicious" nature here?
 
beachnut said:
Steel was turned to dust; nonsense, insane claim.

Some people who post at JREF have seen the dust, and know saying it is steel is insane.
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When you say they've "seen" the dust, what exactly do you mean?
They saw it in the hands of another person? They touched it with their own hands? They studied it using various technology? I'm interested.
 
WTC Dust said:
You shouldn't make assumptions about me. I've smoked a cigarette or two in my day, of the herbal variety.

Paper is paper. It ignites when it reaches a certain temperature. I'm not saying anything controversial in this.
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WTC Dust said:
Hey man, if 9/11 didn't get under your skin, I don't know why else you'd be posting in this section of the JREF forums. I haven't actually presented any evidence at all, and you're already insulting me.

Wait for the candy, then eat it.
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Maybe you shouldn't smoke the "herbal" cigarettes before you post.
 
If WTC Dust provides proof that steel in the WTC was "dustified," into Fe and C I will leave this subforum forever.
 
WTC Dust said:
OK. I tend to believe all the peer reviewed papers that mention the iron that was found in the dust and I'm not talking about Steven Jones' ridiculous non-peer reviewed travesty of a paper, either.
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Can you please point out these peer reviewed papers that support your theory? Something along the lines of "Iron Found In WTC Samples Prove Space Beams Caused The Destruction of The Towers" by Dr. Wood and Dr. Dust. Journal of Wacky Science, December 2005, Vol. II.
 
Arus808 said:
you do know that there were other elements in and 110 story OFFICE BUILDING that contains IRON right?

chair
cabinets
sinks
plumbing
elevators
cables


tghe list is endless.

so what is the "suspicious" nature here?
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What I see as very suspicious is the amount of dust. Also, the very short pile of debris at Ground Zero. Almost nothing was visible above a ten foot fence from ground level on Day 3 after the attacks. They say all that steel got shipped to China, but there wasn't a convincingly large pile of steel at Ground Zero. I've never seen anything resembling direct evidence that steel was shipped to China, only stories.

Instead, you had all this dust every place. Dust appeared at ground level before either of the Twin Towers went poof. You can see it on Rick Seigel's video and many other images. Both buildings standing, yet whitish dust rising from ground level. No concrete floors bashing into each other could cause this to happen. The lobby of my building was filled with dust before either building fell. Explain this, concrete-dusters!
 
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