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Old 13th November 2010, 11:07 PM   #1
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Tony Szamboti and Bob McIlvaine on Geraldo Nov 13 2010

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Geraldo interviews 9/11 family member Bob McIlvaine and Tony Szamboti about the WTC7 collapse and the Building What? campaign.

What investigating WTC7's collapse has to do with the death of Bob's son in WTC2 is not explained.
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Old 13th November 2010, 11:26 PM   #2
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So... does this mean Fox News is the only reliable media source?
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From the sensationalist first telecast of the Zapruder film to opening Al Capone's vault to this stuff...clueless Geraldo is nothing if not consistent!
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the jig is up, boys. Time to give up the ghost. The experts agree with me and your insulting of the 9/11 victims wears thin.
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Old 13th November 2010, 11:45 PM   #5
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For a second I thought bill smith had changed his avatar....
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Old 13th November 2010, 11:49 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by brazenlilraisin View Post
For a second I thought bill smith had changed his avatar....
she has not.... but the g-man really thinks he is the g-man.

the real-cd-deal has his 15 minutes (or so) (hi tony, your real cd deal is moronic claptrap)

Three nuts on 911... poor Geraldo is clueless on physics, fire and gravity

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Old 14th November 2010, 12:09 AM   #7
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"1300 architects and engineers"

LOL
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Originally Posted by R.Mackey View Post
So... does this mean Fox News is the only reliable media source?


Originally Posted by brazenlilraisin View Post
From the sensationalist first telecast of the Zapruder film to opening Al Capone's vault to this stuff...clueless Geraldo is nothing if not consistent!
Welcome to the forum, brazenlilraisin! I like your username!
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Old 14th November 2010, 12:40 AM   #9
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Turns out Al Capone's vault was a high point in Geraldo's career.

Note the bit where he tries to steer McIlvaine away from his theory about how his son died. Could that possibly be because he doesn't want Bob to spoil his conclusion about how the family members aren't kooks like Alex Jones and the blackshirts?
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Old 14th November 2010, 12:59 AM   #10
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Originally Posted by brazenlilraisin View Post
For a second I thought bill smith had changed his avatar....
That's not Bill Smith". That's Rolf Lindgren, former campaign manager for accused wife-beater and the twoof movements biggest death threat spammer, Kevin Barrett.

He also believes himself to be the 450 year old Italian Renaissance scientist Galileo as well as multiple American revolution figures.
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Originally Posted by Sword_Of_Truth View Post
That's not Bill Smith". That's Rolf Lindgren, former campaign manager for accused wife-beater and the twoof movements biggest death threat spammer, Kevin Barrett.

He also believes himself to be the 450 year old Italian Renaissance scientist Galileo as well as multiple American revolution figures.

Really? All this time I thought it was nothing more than a bored 15 year old trolling for kicks.
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I wonder why Tony didn't add that he thinks the towers were also brought down with explosives. I would have loved to see Geraldos' face after that. Bob McIlvaine so wanted to go off on a rant, I wonder what Geraldo told them they could and couldn't get into (especially considering his opening comments)
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Well the gig is up! FOX news is onto us. I suggest we put plan Omega into action.See everyone at the rendezvous.
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Old 14th November 2010, 06:45 AM   #14
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Poor misguided Bob. He will spend the rest of his life chasing this non existent ghost.

Poor Tony..he will spend the rest of his life looking like Mayor McCheese.
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Congrats to Tony, Bob and the Building What campaign. This is immeasurable amounts of advertising value. One has to wonder why Fox would put this on now.

Tony, especially, was measured and calm and didn't fall into the rhetorical traps of saying how the explosives were planted or why gov't figures would do such a thing.

I guess 9/11 "Truth" doesn't just disappear when you turn the internet off.
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Originally Posted by brazenlilraisin View Post
For a second I thought bill smith had changed his avatar....
Nope. I am in 100% agreement with Galileo though. The goose will soon be cooked. Appropriate for the time of year actually. lol
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Originally Posted by Dog Town View Post
Well the gig is up! FOX news is onto us. I suggest we put plan Omega into action.See everyone at the rendezvous.
The golden rule is never ever trust FOX. They may well be working with the perps to set up an impotent investigation.
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Tony, especially, was measured and calm and didn't fall into the rhetorical traps of saying how the explosives were planted or why gov't figures would do such a thing.<snip>

You heard it here, folks. The TM doesn't care about what actually happened. Just so long as it's the big bad "Gov't's" fault...
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I don't see how 9/11 Truth is advanced at all by this.
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I wonder why Tony didn't add that he thinks the towers were also brought down with explosives. I would have loved to see Geraldos' face after that. Bob McIlvaine so wanted to go off on a rant, I wonder what Geraldo told them they could and couldn't get into (especially considering his opening comments)
Tony is smart. We will lay it on thick and fast once the demolition of WTC7 gets into general circulation. Then the Towers will be easy to prove beyond any reasonable doubt.We can wait..
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You heard it here, folks. The TM doesn't care about what actually happened. Just so long as it's the big bad "Gov't's" fault...
He was honest when he said he doesn't pretend to know how it was done. Knowing NIST's hypothesis is false is not contingent on whether or not you have the perpetrator.

Why can't the so-called debunkers figure that out?
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Originally Posted by Orphia Nay View Post

What investigating WTC7's collapse has to do with the death of Bob's son in WTC2 is not explained.
Okay, now I've lost all respect for Geraldo Rivera and for Tony Szamboti (yes, I know you're here on JREF from time to time). Fox News is way past even using the word - RESPECT. Using the word COMICAL is more like it!

Tony, I still don't understand why there has to be a debate or even an issue as to what happened!
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Well the gig is up! FOX news is onto us. I suggest we put plan Omega into action.See everyone at the rendezvous.
Operation passport check might be a good name too.lol
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I don't see how 9/11 Truth is advanced at all by this.
Because you're blinded by your bias. Fox News is the most popular news channel in the US. Bob and Tony were given over 8 minutes of air time. This was not a hit piece. Geraldo concluded by saying that he now has an open mind, even though he was previously dismissive of any conspiracy theory.

Your average viewer might also be curious and check out the website and info promoted by Bob and Tony. There were upwards of tens of millions of people who were exposed to this clip. Compare that with the weekly traffic for jref, gravylinks, or 911debunking.
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He was honest when he said he doesn't pretend to know how it was done. Knowing NIST's hypothesis is false is not contingent on whether or not you have the perpetrator.

Why can't the so-called debunkers figure that out?
Get a life!
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Originally Posted by RedIbis View Post
He was honest when he said he doesn't pretend to know how it was done. Knowing NIST's hypothesis is false is not contingent on whether or not you have the perpetrator.

Why can't the so-called debunkers figure that out?
Knowing that NIST's hypothesis is false is, however, contingent on articulating a cohesive explanation why, which you have utterly (in fact, in your case, hilariously) failed to do Red.

Why can't you figure that out?

Too busy adopting Judy Woods insane No Planer theories, Red? Hmm, Red, ya No Planer?
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Originally Posted by ProBonoShill View Post
"1300 architects and engineers"

LOL
Even more than that actually. JHere....you and the Readers can check out their website if you want the details..

http://ae911truth.org/
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Knowing that NIST's hypothesis is false is, however, contingent on articulating a cohesive explanation why, which you have utterly (in fact, in your case, hilariously) failed to do Red.

Why can't you figure that out?

Too busy adopting Judy Woods insane No Planer theories, Red? Hmm, Red, ya No Planer?


That's a really good point. What the TM seems to be doing is the same as asking someone what their parent's names are, and just saying "no, they aren't" to every reply, and admitting that you have no clue what their names actually are. How can you be so sure their names aren't Nancy and Craig, when you just admitted that you have no idea what their names actually are?
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Even more than that actually. JHere....you and the Readers can check out their website if you want the details..

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Are YA SURE those are architects and engineers????
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Knowing that NIST's hypothesis is false is, however, contingent on articulating a cohesive explanation why, which you have utterly (in fact, in your case, hilariously) failed to do Red.

Why can't you figure that out?

Too busy adopting Judy Woods insane No Planer theories, Red? Hmm, Red, ya No Planer?
NIST as you know it is already done. Now that we have seen the masses of critical evidence that they have been hiding for all these years with the new FOIA releases their guilt is clearly established. Prison beckons. What is the punishment for high Treason in America ?

Sunder had better consider his position.
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NIST as you know it is already done. Now that we have seen the masses of critical evidence that they have been hiding for all these years with the new FOIA releases their guilt is clearly established. Prison beckons. What is the punishment for high Treason in America ?

Sunder had better consider his position.
You're saying silly things again bill. Please stop.
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"1300 architects and engineers"

LOL
LOL, you are in denial. No wonder you are losing.
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Because you're blinded by your bias. Fox News is the most popular news channel in the US. Bob and Tony were given over 8 minutes of air time. This was not a hit piece. Geraldo concluded by saying that he now has an open mind, even though he was previously dismissive of any conspiracy theory.

Your average viewer might also be curious and check out the website and info promoted by Bob and Tony. There were upwards of tens of millions of people who were exposed to this clip. Compare that with the weekly traffic for jref, gravylinks, or 911debunking.
Wait, FOX news is now the authoritative source? When did this change? I thought you guys called them "Faux" news.
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Even more than that actually. JHere....you and the Readers can check out their website if you want the details..

http://ae911truth.org/
I agree Bill. I think FOX should publish the petition list along with their personal statements and qualifications. You agree?

BTW: When do you think Gage is going to submit his petition to Congress? You know this might be a problem (considering he's a non-profit)?
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Wait, FOX news is now the authoritative source? When did this change? I thought you guys called them "Faux" news.
I used the word, 'popular'. You used the word 'authoritative.' Do you wish to contest that they are in fact, the most popular news channel in the US?
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I'm just waiting for more Shills in the media to read the writing on the wall. We may see a lot of Geraldo-type stuff like 'Wow....now I have an open mind' 'I never realised'. 'The Truth Movement may well be right'.


WE may see Charlie on Larry pretty soon..
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I agree Bill. I think FOX should publish the petition list along with their personal statements and qualifications. You agree?

BTW: When do you think Gage is going to submit his petition to Congress? You know this might be a problem (considering he's a non-profit)?
We will find a way DGM. You know it.
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Even more than that actually. JHere....you and the Readers can check out their website if you want the details..

http://ae911truth.org/

Yeah, but Bill, there must be at least twelve architects and engineers here on jref - or at least students of - and that FAR outnumbers 1,358, if we use bee dunker math.
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I used the word, 'popular'. You used the word 'authoritative.' Do you wish to contest that they are in fact, the most popular news channel in the US?
I stand corrected.

What do you think, Should FOX post Gages' petition list with their personal statements and qualifications?
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