[Merged] Rep. Giffords Shot In Tucson

Biscuit · 8th January 2011, 11:09 AM

My mother called me a few minutes ago from the area in Tucson and said there was a massive amount of police, helicopters, and ambulances. She wanted to know if I had heard anything. Then on the radio I heard that Rep. Giffords was giving a talk and a gunman walked up and began shooting. Between 5 and 6 people shot.

So far all I can find on the web are tweets. Not much detail on this. I hope that she and her staff are alright.

http://twitter.com/#!/cityoftucsonaz

Thunder · 8th January 2011, 11:11 AM

Republican or Democrat?

Snide · 8th January 2011, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by Thunder

Republican or Democrat?

Giffords is a Democrat.

Biscuit · 8th January 2011, 11:17 AM

Giffords in a Dem from CD8. My district. She just ran her third successful campaign for congress beating Jesse Kelly....I think. News is breaking as I type this.

Semi auto pistol
7 shot
2 dead unconfirmed
Giffords definitely shot
Holding a "congress on the corner event"

Thunder · 8th January 2011, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by Biscuit

Giffords in a Dem from CD8. My district. She just ran her third successful campaign for congress beating Jesse Kelly....I think. News is breaking as I type this.

Semi auto pistol
7 shot
2 dead unconfirmed
Giffords definitely shot
Holding a "congress on the corner event"

not good. is the perp dead?

I hope he lives, so we can find out if he was a fan of Alex Jones or some other ass.

Darat · 8th January 2011, 11:21 AM

Is she a controversial politician?

The Central Scrutinizer · 8th January 2011, 11:23 AM

Nothing on CNN.

Or MSNBC.

Hoax?

Showing up on CNN website just now. Not TV.

Drudgewire · 8th January 2011, 11:29 AM

Most stories are quoting one on NPR. The scariest is the Tuscon Citizen saying she was shot point-blank in the head but the site has apprently crashed so all you see is the lede on google:

Quote:

08, 2011, under Headline news US Congresswoman Gabby Giffords from Tucson has just been shot point blank in the head on the north side of Tucson.

Google Search (top link)

Biscuit · 8th January 2011, 11:36 AM

More news. Giffords shot. As many as 12 people transported to hospital. Injuries unknown.

Her latest campaign was quite nasty here. There are people who believe she is a socialist/commie and the such. Lots of very negative hit adds regarding her and her family. Most of the ads were paid for by money from outside Arizona. Her and Grijalva both had intense (successful) campaigns against tea party backed candidates.

ETA - Fox news AZ says the gunman is in custody! Yea!

The Central Scrutinizer · 8th January 2011, 11:43 AM

Disgruntled ex perhaps?

Biscuit · 8th January 2011, 11:49 AM

Just heard a bystander tackled the gunman! Good to see someone kept their head on their shoulder to prevent his escape. This is going to be an interesting day here in Tucson.

I don't pray so forgive the wording but my prayers are with those victims.

TraneWreck · 8th January 2011, 11:51 AM

Abortion or immigration?

I'm betting in addition to old fashioned "Crazy," one of those is going to be the big issue.

As always, we need to wait for more information, but given the tone of the country, especially the last election, I'm surprised something like this didn't happen earlier.

This is a tragic event that we can only hope will be isolated.

The Central Scrutinizer · 8th January 2011, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by TraneWreck

Abortion or immigration?

I'm betting in addition to old fashioned "Crazy," one of those is going to be the big issue.

Undoubtedly a Second Amendment Superhero also.

applecorped · 8th January 2011, 11:58 AM

The long jump to conclusions begins!!!

TraneWreck · 8th January 2011, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by The Central Scrutinizer

Undoubtedly a Second Amendment Superhero also.

I just hope it wasn't some bat-**** Mexican guy. That racial component would overwhelm any subtlety to the issue and lead to one hell of a backlash.

Biscuit · 8th January 2011, 12:00 PM

new update from NPR radio.

Giffords shot in the head...

TraneWreck · 8th January 2011, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by applecorped

The long jump to conclusions begins!!!

No one is jumping to a conclusion, just offering speculation. It's possible this guy is some disgruntled leftist or, as someone else mentioned, this could be completely personal. We'll find out soon enough. There's just nothing else to do but wonder right now.

The political component to this is obvious. IT was an assassination. No matter who perpetrated the event, whatever broad political group this nut assigns himself to will be unjustly slandered.

I think we can all agree that hyperbolic ********* about "communism" and "destroying America" and whatever else gets hurled around cannot help.

applecorped · 8th January 2011, 12:03 PM

Let the long jump to speculation begin!!! Better?

bikerdruid · 8th January 2011, 12:04 PM

just heard this on cbc radio.

Biscuit · 8th January 2011, 12:05 PM

Taken to University medical center, less than a mile from my house. Also she is reported to be alive!!!

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/rep-g...ry?id=12571452

Thunder · 8th January 2011, 12:06 PM

I hope it was a Tea-Bagger, Birther, or Truther.

Malerin · 8th January 2011, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by TraneWreck

Abortion or immigration?

I'm betting in addition to old fashioned "Crazy," one of those is going to be the big issue.

As always, we need to wait for more information, but given the tone of the country, especially the last election, I'm surprised something like this didn't happen earlier.

This is a tragic event that we can only hope will be isolated.

Muslim?

TraneWreck · 8th January 2011, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by applecorped

Let the long jump to speculation begin!!! Better?

Yep.

Kopji · 8th January 2011, 12:07 PM

Quote:

At least four people are dead, University Medical Center spokesman Darci Slaten said. They were among five to seven people who were being treated.

The Pima County Sheriff's Office confirmed that it is investigating a multiple shooting at a Safeway in north Tucson at Ina and Oracle.

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articl...fords-brk.html

...

Thunder · 8th January 2011, 12:07 PM

Jesus, she was shot point blank in the head.

I am agnostic, but I am still praying for her and her family.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110108/..._congresswoman

TraneWreck · 8th January 2011, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by Malerin

Muslim?

Could be. Maybe we should lay odds.

applecorped · 8th January 2011, 12:09 PM

Maybe we should wait for more info.

Drudgewire · 8th January 2011, 12:09 PM

NPR reporting she has died.

Congresswoman, 6 Others, Killed By Gunman

Biscuit · 8th January 2011, 12:10 PM

New update. Sheriff's office has confirmed that Giffords and 6 others are dead. This is awful.

Suspect in custody described as in his late teens or early 20's

Thunder · 8th January 2011, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by Biscuit

New update. Sheriff's office has confirmed that Giffords and 6 others are dead. This is awful.

very very bad.

very not good. very sad day for the American people. flags across the country will no doubt be at half-mast.

TraneWreck · 8th January 2011, 12:11 PM

I'm sick to my stomach.

FattyCatty · 8th January 2011, 12:13 PM

Apparently she was on Sarah Palin's "list" about health care.

Quote:

In a website launched on Thursday, the six-month anniversary of the health care law, Palin puts a bull's-eye on 20 House districts under a headline that reads, "We've diagnosed the problem…Help us prescribe the solution."

Included among Palin's Democratic targets: North Dakota's at-large Rep. Earl Pomeroy, Southeast Arizona Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and Virginia Rep. Tom Perriello.

Thunder · 8th January 2011, 12:13 PM

Title of OP should now be changed to "shot and killed".

Biscuit · 8th January 2011, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by TraneWreck

I'm sick to my stomach.

This was an exciting story at first. Now I just feel empty.

mummymonkey · 8th January 2011, 12:15 PM

Anybody nearby know any more details on this sad event?

Makes this look rather ill-judged.

Infoexcavator · 8th January 2011, 12:16 PM

So did she have any controversial positions? I remember hearing about her before but can't really remember from where...

Thunder · 8th January 2011, 12:17 PM

Fascinating, how Gifford's target is now gone. You can go to the map and move over the targets, and get a name.

And the list of candidates is no longer available.

Sarah Palin, you are a real bitch. I hope you are happy with what's been done.

rifle scopes.....targeting politicians you don't like. is this NOT encitement to assault/murder? sure looks that way to me.

and why the **** is this map even still up????????????????????

applecorped · 8th January 2011, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by Biscuit

This was an exciting story at first. Now I just feel empty.

What exactly was exciting to you about a shooting?

Thunder · 8th January 2011, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by Infoexcavator

So did she have any controversial positions?

yeah, she dared to support health-care reform.

so Palin made a website targeting her and others for....something.

Skeptic Ginger · 8th January 2011, 12:21 PM

NPR says 6 people died.

I went to hear Patty Murray here in WA and I was shocked frankly at how easy it would have been to do something similar. Murray was 20 feet away and no one was even monitoring who walked in the door. This was only a matter of time given the right wing and Tea Party rhetoric. Even if this was a psychotic schizophrenic and not an idiot who took the right wing lies to heart, it's going to a big shock if the rhetoric is not behind this.

8th January 2011, 11:09 AM	#1
Biscuit Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,929	Rep. Giffords Shot In Tucson My mother called me a few minutes ago from the area in Tucson and said there was a massive amount of police, helicopters, and ambulances. She wanted to know if I had heard anything. Then on the radio I heard that Rep. Giffords was giving a talk and a gunman walked up and began shooting. Between 5 and 6 people shot. So far all I can find on the web are tweets. Not much detail on this. I hope that she and her staff are alright. http://twitter.com/#!/cityoftucsonaz
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8th January 2011, 11:11 AM	#2
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8th January 2011, 11:16 AM	#3
Snide Illuminator Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 3,198	Originally Posted by Thunder Republican or Democrat? Giffords is a Democrat.
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8th January 2011, 11:17 AM	#4
Biscuit Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,929	Giffords in a Dem from CD8. My district. She just ran her third successful campaign for congress beating Jesse Kelly....I think. News is breaking as I type this. Semi auto pistol 7 shot 2 dead unconfirmed Giffords definitely shot Holding a "congress on the corner event"
Biscuit Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,929	__________________ “... there is no shame in not knowing. The problem arises when irrational thought and attendant behavior fill the vacuum left by ignorance.” ― Neil deGrasse Tyson

8th January 2011, 11:19 AM	#5
Thunder Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 34,918	Originally Posted by Biscuit Giffords in a Dem from CD8. My district. She just ran her third successful campaign for congress beating Jesse Kelly....I think. News is breaking as I type this. Semi auto pistol 7 shot 2 dead unconfirmed Giffords definitely shot Holding a "congress on the corner event" not good. is the perp dead? I hope he lives, so we can find out if he was a fan of Alex Jones or some other ass.
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Drudgewire Critical Doofus Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 9,421	Most stories are quoting one on NPR. The scariest is the Tuscon Citizen saying she was shot point-blank in the head but the site has apprently crashed so all you see is the lede on google: Quote: 08, 2011, under Headline news US Congresswoman Gabby Giffords from Tucson has just been shot point blank in the head on the north side of Tucson. Google Search (top link)
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8th January 2011, 11:36 AM	#9
Biscuit Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,929	More news. Giffords shot. As many as 12 people transported to hospital. Injuries unknown. Her latest campaign was quite nasty here. There are people who believe she is a socialist/commie and the such. Lots of very negative hit adds regarding her and her family. Most of the ads were paid for by money from outside Arizona. Her and Grijalva both had intense (successful) campaigns against tea party backed candidates. ETA - Fox news AZ says the gunman is in custody! Yea!
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8th January 2011, 11:49 AM	#11
Biscuit Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,929	Just heard a bystander tackled the gunman! Good to see someone kept their head on their shoulder to prevent his escape. This is going to be an interesting day here in Tucson. I don't pray so forgive the wording but my prayers are with those victims.
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8th January 2011, 11:51 AM	#12
TraneWreck Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 7,929	Abortion or immigration? I'm betting in addition to old fashioned "Crazy," one of those is going to be the big issue. As always, we need to wait for more information, but given the tone of the country, especially the last election, I'm surprised something like this didn't happen earlier. This is a tragic event that we can only hope will be isolated.
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8th January 2011, 11:56 AM	#13
The Central Scrutinizer Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 53,081	Originally Posted by TraneWreck Abortion or immigration? I'm betting in addition to old fashioned "Crazy," one of those is going to be the big issue. Undoubtedly a Second Amendment Superhero also.
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8th January 2011, 11:58 AM	#14
applecorped Banned Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 20,145	The long jump to conclusions begins!!!
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8th January 2011, 12:00 PM	#15
TraneWreck Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 7,929	Originally Posted by The Central Scrutinizer Undoubtedly a Second Amendment Superhero also. I just hope it wasn't some bat-**** Mexican guy. That racial component would overwhelm any subtlety to the issue and lead to one hell of a backlash.
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8th January 2011, 12:02 PM	#17
TraneWreck Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 7,929	Originally Posted by applecorped The long jump to conclusions begins!!! No one is jumping to a conclusion, just offering speculation. It's possible this guy is some disgruntled leftist or, as someone else mentioned, this could be completely personal. We'll find out soon enough. There's just nothing else to do but wonder right now. The political component to this is obvious. IT was an assassination. No matter who perpetrated the event, whatever broad political group this nut assigns himself to will be unjustly slandered. I think we can all agree that hyperbolic ********* about "communism" and "destroying America" and whatever else gets hurled around cannot help.
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applecorped Banned Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 20,145	Let the long jump to speculation begin!!! Better?
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bikerdruid Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: North Peace Bioregion of theGreat Boreal Forest Posts: 7,361	just heard this on cbc radio.

8th January 2011, 12:05 PM	#20
Biscuit Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,929	Taken to University medical center, less than a mile from my house. Also she is reported to be alive!!! http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/rep-g...ry?id=12571452
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Thunder Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 34,918	I hope it was a Tea-Bagger, Birther, or Truther.
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8th January 2011, 12:06 PM	#22
Malerin Banned Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 3,341	Originally Posted by TraneWreck Abortion or immigration? I'm betting in addition to old fashioned "Crazy," one of those is going to be the big issue. As always, we need to wait for more information, but given the tone of the country, especially the last election, I'm surprised something like this didn't happen earlier. This is a tragic event that we can only hope will be isolated. Muslim?
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8th January 2011, 12:06 PM	#23
TraneWreck Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 7,929	Originally Posted by applecorped Let the long jump to speculation begin!!! Better? Yep.
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Kopji Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 8,004	Quote: At least four people are dead, University Medical Center spokesman Darci Slaten said. They were among five to seven people who were being treated. The Pima County Sheriff's Office confirmed that it is investigating a multiple shooting at a Safeway in north Tucson at Ina and Oracle. http://www.azcentral.com/news/articl...fords-brk.html ...
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8th January 2011, 12:07 PM	#26
TraneWreck Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 7,929	Originally Posted by Malerin Muslim? Could be. Maybe we should lay odds.
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8th January 2011, 12:09 PM	#27
applecorped Banned Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 20,145	Maybe we should wait for more info.
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8th January 2011, 12:10 PM	#29
Biscuit Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,929	New update. Sheriff's office has confirmed that Giffords and 6 others are dead. This is awful. Suspect in custody described as in his late teens or early 20's
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Thunder Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 34,918	Originally Posted by Biscuit New update. Sheriff's office has confirmed that Giffords and 6 others are dead. This is awful. very very bad. very not good. very sad day for the American people. flags across the country will no doubt be at half-mast.
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8th January 2011, 12:13 PM	#34
Biscuit Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,929	Originally Posted by TraneWreck I'm sick to my stomach. This was an exciting story at first. Now I just feel empty.
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8th January 2011, 12:15 PM	#35
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8th January 2011, 12:17 PM	#37
Thunder Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 34,918	Fascinating, how Gifford's target is now gone. You can go to the map and move over the targets, and get a name. And the list of candidates is no longer available. Sarah Palin, you are a real bitch. I hope you are happy with what's been done. rifle scopes.....targeting politicians you don't like. is this NOT encitement to assault/murder? sure looks that way to me. and why the **** is this map even still up????????????????????
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8th January 2011, 12:20 PM	#38
applecorped Banned Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 20,145	Originally Posted by Biscuit This was an exciting story at first. Now I just feel empty. What exactly was exciting to you about a shooting?
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8th January 2011, 12:20 PM	#39
Thunder Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 34,918	Originally Posted by Infoexcavator So did she have any controversial positions? yeah, she dared to support health-care reform. so Palin made a website targeting her and others for....something.
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