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Old 18th February 2011, 01:36 AM   #1
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Health benefits of Anions?

I've come across one of those power bracelets.

The manufacturer claims they have a silicone band that contains upwards of 1200 anions per cubic cm.

The claim that the body is able to absorb these anions and it benefits the body in improving, circulation, muscle strength, balance and numerous other things.

Ok now the questions.

1) Can silicone be induced or whatever to contain 1200anions per cubic cm. Is that even sceince, is it possible? What about molecular stability etc? (its been 10 years since university chemistry and physics so I'm a little rusty) Does such a machine exist called an anion tester (not some quack machine) that measures the concentration of anions per cubic cm? They have a photo of a little digital device called an Anion Tester. It had the band on it, with the readout showing 1197 anions per cubic cm.

2) Is the human body able to absorb these anions in some way into some system to be able to affect the health of the body in a positive manner?

3) Is there any evidence to support the benefits of anions to ones health?

Assistance in this regard will be greatly appreciated!
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Old 18th February 2011, 03:03 AM   #2
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Might as well get this one in before any else does....

The health benefits of onions have been known to mankind for millenia and been used to treat colds and coughs. They contain sulphides that reduce blood pressure and blood lipid levels.

I recommend strapping half a raw onion to your wrist daily. Rub the onion on your skin at regular intervals to ward off inflammation, quacks, unwanted sexual advances and vampires.

It may or may not work for you but one's things for sure: The Onion Band™ will be a damn sight cheaper than an anion power bracelet.

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Old 18th February 2011, 03:26 AM   #3
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Anions are a the vital tool in the defensive arsenal to protect against Vampires.




Or is it garlic, I never can remember.
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Old 18th February 2011, 03:40 AM   #4
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Sorry you guys. You got it all wrong. I strongly suggest the OP is serious. There is such a product and it is not related to onions.

Here is a link where you can buy them.
http://www.ioffer.com/si/anion+bracelets

This is what Anions actually are
http://www.launc.tased.edu.au/online...ion/Anions.htm
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Anions are atoms or groups of atoms that have gained electrons. Having more negatively charged electrons than positively charged protons, they are negatively charged.
The bad news is that it is similar to (read the same as) the power balance. Here is a thread on that subject "Power Balance" bracelets offer refunds & admit no proof of claims

In summary, to answer the OP. They are fake. Save your money.
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Old 18th February 2011, 03:41 AM   #5
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As I understand.

Originally Posted by buka001 View Post
1) Can silicone be induced or whatever to contain 1200anions per cubic cm. Is that even sceince, is it possible? What about molecular stability etc? (its been 10 years since university chemistry and physics so I'm a little rusty) Does such a machine exist called an anion tester (not some quack machine) that measures the concentration of anions per cubic cm? They have a photo of a little digital device called an Anion Tester. It had the band on it, with the readout showing 1197 anions per cubic cm.
Yes I think so.

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2) Is the human body able to absorb these anions in some way into some system to be able to affect the health of the body in a positive manner?
No

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3) Is there any evidence to support the benefits of anions to ones health?
No
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Old 18th February 2011, 03:56 AM   #6
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Anion tester machines http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/anion-tester.html
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Old 18th February 2011, 04:15 AM   #7
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Let me add that 1200 anions per cm2 is a very low charge. Since solicone rubber is an excellent isolator, it is quite possible that it could be made to retain a moderate charge more or less permanently.

However, that also means thait it would stay there, and obviously not be transferred to the body. In which case the feeble electrostatic field would have no effect at all.

OR, the ions might somehow be transferred to the body, in which case the the feeble chage would be gone in a few milliseconds, and have no effect at all.

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They have a photo of a little digital device called an Anion Tester. It had the band on it, with the readout showing 1197 anions per cubic cm.
And how can it know how many cm2 the band is? Ions are measured by the strenght of the electrostatic field, which depends on the number and distance of the ions.

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Old 18th February 2011, 04:24 AM   #8
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It's just another placebo power balance wallet lightener device. No one would bother selling you a band with any kind of treatment done to it if they know you'll never test it. And if you're seeing an "anion tester" showing a figure at you and a suitably dressed man presenting it (white coat, glasses, attractivish but just the right amount of nerd in the appearance to make you think they're smart) why would you go to the trouble of seeing if they're telling the truth anyway?

It's woo, and not just woo, deliberately fraudulent and scam filled woo. If you want better reflexes or energy levels, exercise, play complex hand eye coordination games and eat well. A silicon band won't do anything.
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Old 20th February 2011, 10:14 PM   #9
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@ welshdean..Onions good,Garlic definitely better.I grow an awful lot of garlic every year and never seen a vampire....must be something in it.
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Old 20th February 2011, 10:18 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by buka001 View Post
I've come across one of those power bracelets.

The manufacturer claims they have a silicone band that contains upwards of 1200 anions per cubic cm.

The claim that the body is able to absorb these anions and it benefits the body in improving, circulation, muscle strength, balance and numerous other things.

Ok now the questions.

1) Can silicone be induced or whatever to contain 1200anions per cubic cm. Is that even sceince, is it possible? What about molecular stability etc? (its been 10 years since university chemistry and physics so I'm a little rusty) Does such a machine exist called an anion tester (not some quack machine) that measures the concentration of anions per cubic cm? They have a photo of a little digital device called an Anion Tester. It had the band on it, with the readout showing 1197 anions per cubic cm.

2) Is the human body able to absorb these anions in some way into some system to be able to affect the health of the body in a positive manner?

3) Is there any evidence to support the benefits of anions to ones health?

Assistance in this regard will be greatly appreciated!
It's possible for something to contain anions- it will generally contain exactly enough cations to balance the charge. Salt, for example, contains 2.23 x 10^22 anions per cubic centimetre (along with 2.23 x 10^22 cations per cubic centimetre).

These anions have no health benefits whatsoever, even if you could absorb them from a rubber band.
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Old 20th February 2011, 10:19 PM   #11
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What about cations? Do they have a role in improving one's health? If they're not part of the solution, are they part of the precipitate?



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Old 20th February 2011, 11:11 PM   #12
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Originally Posted by buka001 View Post
I've come across one of those power bracelets.

The manufacturer claims they have a silicone band that contains upwards of 1200 anions per cubic cm.

The claim that the body is able to absorb these anions and it benefits the body in improving, circulation, muscle strength, balance and numerous other things.

Ok now the questions.

1) Can silicone be induced or whatever to contain 1200anions per cubic cm. Is that even sceince, is it possible? What about molecular stability etc? (its been 10 years since university chemistry and physics so I'm a little rusty) Does such a machine exist called an anion tester (not some quack machine) that measures the concentration of anions per cubic cm? They have a photo of a little digital device called an Anion Tester. It had the band on it, with the readout showing 1197 anions per cubic cm.

2) Is the human body able to absorb these anions in some way into some system to be able to affect the health of the body in a positive manner?

3) Is there any evidence to support the benefits of anions to ones health?

Assistance in this regard will be greatly appreciated!
It's a scam. Hope that helps.
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Old 21st February 2011, 03:08 AM   #13
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I know that is obviously a scam. I know it is woo. That much is obvious.

I know that it doesn't work. Wouldn't believe so much woo for a split second. Wasn't looking for advice because I was thinking of buying such stupidity.

Was just curious about the apparent "technical" claims it was making about its product.

I want some factual information regarding anions and the ability for silicone to hold them and whether or not the human body can absorb them or not. If it could, would they actually do anything for ones health.

I am aware that you can buy a so called anion tester from Alibaba etc. It comes from China. Is this a legitimate piece of technology, i.e. is it possible to measure anions with machine?

Thank you to some of the posters who added some positive feedback.
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Old 21st February 2011, 05:28 AM   #14
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What about cations?
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Old 26th February 2011, 03:12 AM   #15
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Originally Posted by buka001 View Post
Does such a machine exist called an anion tester (not some quack machine) that measures the concentration of anions per cubic cm? They have a photo of a little digital device called an Anion Tester. It had the band on it, with the readout showing 1197 anions per cubic cm.
Ion testers are Geiger counters. They detect ionizing radiation, not electrostatic charge.



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3) Is there any evidence to support the benefits of anions to ones health?
Ionizing radiation is harmful, not beneficial.



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I am aware that you can buy a so called anion tester from Alibaba etc. It comes from China. Is this a legitimate piece of technology, i.e. is it possible to measure anions with machine?
See specifications carefully and you can verify that they are Geiger counters. Chilean actor and bracelet seller Marko Zaror uses Ion Counter COM-3010PRO (available at alibaba.com too). This is a Geiger counter, so he is selling radioactive bracelets. Radiation dose is very small, but is not totally harmless.
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Old 26th February 2011, 12:32 PM   #16
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@buka001: You can take your tongue out of your cheek now.

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Old 28th February 2011, 01:57 AM   #17
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Originally Posted by Fnord View Post
What about cations? Do they have a role in improving one's health? If they're not part of the solution, are they part of the precipitate?



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