This is the best one yet...

Gamolon · 5th April 2011, 10:03 AM

In another forum, I just had someone compare the design of the twin towers to a...

...wait for it...

...A MUFFLER!!!

This is why the explosives on the core columns were not heard!

My sides hurt from laughing... Just thought I'd share.

A W Smith · 5th April 2011, 10:09 AM

911 was a cherry bomb glasspack job

executed by 19 muffler men

9/11 Chewy Defense · 5th April 2011, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by Gamolon

In another forum, I just had someone compare the design of the twin towers to a...

...wait for it...

...A MUFFLER!!!

This is why the explosives on the core columns were not heard!

My sides hurt from laughing... Just thought I'd share.

OMG, that's retarded!

AJM8125 · 5th April 2011, 10:48 AM

Wow.

I don't know if that tops my craziest truther:

He's a no-planer who believes there's no way a 767's wing could cut through an I-beam (yes, he thinks the perimeter columns were I-beams). To prove this, we shall set up a 767 wing horizontally and launch an I-beam (on a rocket sled, perhaps) at it, because it doesn't matter which object is moving and the entire mass and speed of the 767 is irrelevant. To demonstrate this he reasons that if you stick your head out of the window of a car moving 80 MPH and your head runs into say, a lamp post, your head will explode just the same as if the lamp post was doing 80 and your head was stationary.

Haven't heard from him in a while. I hope he hasn't been experimenting.

timhau · 5th April 2011, 12:19 PM

Well, the towers were longish, metallic objects. You know what else is longish and metallic?

A silencer.

And in this case, they were gigantic. And there were two of them. That's enough silencing power to silence the nuclear hand grenades that were used in the demolition.

Epic · 5th April 2011, 12:36 PM

I have another instant classic for you. Last week one truther stated that there clearly was smoke generators in WTC7 since there was so much smoke

NoahFence · 5th April 2011, 12:48 PM

Naw...the best one was the bomb at the Pentagon that shot airplane parts from INSIDE the building to the OUTSIDE to account for the wreckage on the lawn.

Quad4_72 · 5th April 2011, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by Epic

I have another instant classic for you. Last week one truther stated that there clearly was smoke generators in WTC7 since there was so much smoke

LOL at smoke generators.

twinstead · 5th April 2011, 01:27 PM

Bill Smith brought smoke generators up here. Good times...

NoahFence · 5th April 2011, 01:35 PM

I forget if it was here or on Facebook, but someone suggested that the collapse of the North Tower was supposed to take down WTC 7 - but it started becoming obvious that it failed. So (ah hem...) "they" proceeded to plan and execute the implosion of WTC 7.

After the North Tower hit it.
While it was on fire.
Planned AND executed it.

And truthers wonder why they're not taken seriously?

Dog Town · 5th April 2011, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by Quad4_72

LOL at smoke generators.

Not just smoke generators! Generators that produced smoke faces of the devil!

I believe that was a KKK Clown (AKA Killtown) "discovery"!

Sabretooth · 5th April 2011, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by NoahFence

Naw...the best one was the bomb at the Pentagon that shot airplane parts from INSIDE the building to the OUTSIDE to account for the wreckage on the lawn.

I think this is my favorite. I can't help but imagine a big old canister shooting out plane parts like confetti all over the lawn.

dc1971 · 5th April 2011, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by Gamolon

In another forum...

I wouldn't mind catching some wind of this argument. What forum do you refer to?

Dash80 · 5th April 2011, 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by Gamolon

In another forum, I just had someone compare the design of the twin towers to a...

...wait for it...

...A MUFFLER!!!

This is why the explosives on the core columns were not heard!

My sides hurt from laughing... Just thought I'd share.

Wow... that is ten kinds of stupid all in one.

Dave Rogers · 6th April 2011, 02:04 AM

Originally Posted by AJM8125

To prove this, we shall set up a 767 wing horizontally and launch an I-beam (on a rocket sled, perhaps) at it, because it doesn't matter which object is moving and the entire mass and speed of the 767 is irrelevant.

As long as the wing was restrained at its inboard end, that experiment would be reasonably valid. Of course, the experiment would need careful design so as to be representative of the structure, and your truther would rationalise away the results because the wing would cut the column if the design was correct, but he's right in that it's only relative velocity that matters; there is, in fact, no such thing as absolute velocity, even in classical physics. There will be a slight perturbation from the fact that the wing is anchored to a fixed structure rather than to an airliner, which could react to the impact, but I suspect that the difference would be fairly minor because the elastic response of the wing would be too slow compared to the duration of the impact.

And, to be honest, he's right about the lamp post too. Don't try this at home, kids.

Dave

CompusMentus · 6th April 2011, 02:40 AM

If we ran a contest for most daft 9/11 CT'er I think Web Fairy would be a major contender. Her output of battiness is staggering. Ie her theory that UAV's disguised as geese planted explosives on the exterior facade of the twin towers on the eve of 9/11. Also that it was a pain-ray fired from helicopters that made the people jump from the buildings.

Compus

Dash80 · 6th April 2011, 04:55 AM

Personally I think this pile of bullcrap is the most crazy of them all.

And it's forum of twisted funny farm escapees
Calling victims "sims", mocking their photos, laughing at pictures of families crying. PATHETIC

MRC_Hans · 6th April 2011, 05:09 AM

Originally Posted by Dash80

Personally I think this pile of bullcrap is the most crazy of them all.

And it's forum of twisted funny farm escapees
Calling victims "sims", mocking their photos, laughing at pictures of families crying. PATHETIC

From that site:

Quote:

However, the September Clues research has determined that the alleged victims were fictitious identities mostly/or entirely created within the digital realm. The 9/11 hoax - and the phony "War on Terror" - are definitively exposed by method revealed.

Who volunteers to go there and tell them that the "War on Terror" is also a sim? There are no soldiers in Iraq and Afgainstan. Saddam Hussein is still happily ruling Iraq, we have just paid him to keep a low profile.

....

They have been talking about 'misinformation agents', but perhaps we should take them up on it? Plant some stories that are silly, but still more probable than theirs (should be easy).

Hans

Epic · 6th April 2011, 05:29 AM

Originally Posted by twinstead

Bill Smith brought smoke generators up here. Good times...

Oh, the smoke generators have came up all ready.

I have other ones from same truther. He also argued that the mechanical penthouse of WTC7 did`t fall in to the building. It was cut down to the roof as a bluff. It was clear out at night before and was weakened with grinders. "Just look at the videos, only an idiot would think the penthouse fell into the building".

He also argued that spraying water in to molten metal can`t cause a steam explosion.

Foolmewunz · 6th April 2011, 05:43 AM

Originally Posted by Dash80

Personally I think this pile of bullcrap is the most crazy of them all.

And it's forum of twisted funny farm escapees
Calling victims "sims", mocking their photos, laughing at pictures of families crying. PATHETIC

In the spirit of this thread, September Clues is not funny, or crazy, or whacky. They are sick sacks of fecal matter. And yeah, they rate right up there with Killtown in that category.

Back on topic. Ah, the memories. MaGZ and his pigeon that he insisted was a guided missile was one of my favorites,and we all have fond memories of, what was it again?... 3 inch rebar on 4 foot cores.... but for sheer lunacy have you veterans forgotten about the pterodactyls.

What? Did he say "pterodactyls"? What's that got to do with 9/11??!!

Ha! Read 'em and weap, duhbunkers!

http://www.s8int.com/eyewit22.html

Dash80 · 6th April 2011, 06:44 AM

Originally Posted by Foolmewunz

In the spirit of this thread, September Clues is not funny, or crazy, or whacky. They are sick sacks of fecal matter. And yeah, they rate right up there with Killtown in that category.

Absolutely, nothing at all funny about these steaming piles of sewage. I still think they are padded cell candidate loons though.

Back on topic. Ah, the memories. MaGZ and his pigeon that he insisted was a guided missile was one of my favorites,and we all have fond memories of, what was it again?... 3 inch rebar on 4 foot cores.... but for sheer lunacy have you veterans forgotten about the pterodactyls.

What? Did he say "pterodactyls"? What's that got to do with 9/11??!!

Ha! Read 'em and weap, duhbunkers!

http://www.s8int.com/eyewit22.html

Oh I'd forgotten about that one. The top secret "flapping missile"

or as I'll name it: "Advanced Balistic Pigeon Technology"

As for the pterodactyl... I think that person was smoking something.

MRC_Hans · 6th April 2011, 07:12 AM

Allow me to remind you all of a certain Carlos Swett.

Hans (runs and hides)

CompusMentus · 6th April 2011, 07:35 AM

Originally Posted by Foolmewunz

In the spirit of this thread, September Clues is not funny, or crazy, or whacky. They are sick sacks of fecal matter. And yeah, they rate right up there with Killtown in that category.

I also remember, on a Jim Fetzer web "radio" show with Judy Wood as a guest, a phone-caller suggested that no-one jumped from the WTC but that those poor people were thrown out of the towers by "Israeli black-ops" teams. My first inclination would have been to at least ask the idiot for some type of evidence. Fetzer of course just ummed and arred and let it pass.

*********** sick.

Compus

Dash80 · 6th April 2011, 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by CompusMentus

I also remember, on a Jim Fetzer web "radio" show with Judy Wood as a guest, a phone-caller suggested that no-one jumped from the WTC but that those poor people were thrown out of the towers by "Israeli black-ops" teams. My first inclination would have been to at least ask the idiot for some type of evidence. Fetzer of course just ummed and arred and let it pass.

*********** sick.

Compus

I'm not sure what is worse, that or claiming the jumpers were CGI.

Gamolon · 6th April 2011, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by dc1971

I wouldn't mind catching some wind of this argument. What forum do you refer to?

It's the UsMessageBoard, conspiracy section.

Lot's of dumb going on there.

NoahFence · 6th April 2011, 08:16 AM

Anybody hear the "ball" theory?
Using the single worst quality video they could find, some truthers claimed the 2nd aircraft was a "ball of some sort".

They readily admitted that an aircraft hit the 1st twin tower, the Pentagon and even admitted a plane crashed in Shanksville.

Yet the 2nd plane, the one seen by millions, was fabricated.

Dash80 · 6th April 2011, 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by NoahFence

Anybody hear the "ball" theory?
Using the single worst quality video they could find, some truthers claimed the 2nd aircraft was a "ball of some sort".

They readily admitted that an aircraft hit the 1st twin tower, the Pentagon and even admitted a plane crashed in Shanksville.

Yet the 2nd plane, the one seen by millions, was fabricated.

Three words: What the ****!

grandmastershek · 6th April 2011, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by Gamolon

In another forum, I just had someone compare the design of the twin towers to a...

...wait for it...

...A MUFFLER!!!

This is why the explosives on the core columns were not heard!

My sides hurt from laughing... Just thought I'd share.

Yeah...I know that guy from youtube. He also compares it to a silencer, as if they are the same thing. After explaining that mufflers and silencers have their ignitions outside of the actual device and allegedly the WTC bombs were inside the building the dancing commenced. I then pointed out that it would be like a muffler having a backfire and a couple dozens holes drilled in it. That resulted in him making up characteristics of the glass in the WTC. Like every other truther he has locked himself in his own personal thought prison.

Edx · 6th April 2011, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by grandmastershek

Yeah...I know that guy from youtube. He also compares it to a silencer, as if they are the same thing. After explaining that mufflers and silencers have their ignitions outside of the actual device and allegedly the WTC bombs were inside the building the dancing commenced. I then pointed out that it would be like a muffler having a backfire and a couple dozens holes drilled in it. That resulted in him making up characteristics of the glass in the WTC. Like every other truther he has locked himself in his own personal thought prison.

hahah! Is this by any chance a user called infoseeker264 ?

I had a massive long argument over youtube PM's which ended up with him just throwing insults at me and saying he didn't care anymore.

He said that they could have put the explosives in mufflers the same way you can make a silencer for a gun. I told him that silencers only work on projectiles moving slower than the speed of sound and so by definition would never work with high explosives. He didn't get it though.

Dog Town · 6th April 2011, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by Foolmewunz

Ah, the memories. MaGZ and his pigeon

Always thought it looked like a seagull. But yeah, MaGZ is special, in so many ways.

jaydeehess · 6th April 2011, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by Dave Rogers

As long as the wing was restrained at its inboard end, that experiment would be reasonably valid. Of course, the experiment would need careful design so as to be representative of the structure, and your truther would rationalise away the results because the wing would cut the column if the design was correct, but he's right in that it's only relative velocity that matters; there is, in fact, no such thing as absolute velocity, even in classical physics. There will be a slight perturbation from the fact that the wing is anchored to a fixed structure rather than to an airliner, which could react to the impact, but I suspect that the difference would be fairly minor because the elastic response of the wing would be too slow compared to the duration of the impact.

And, to be honest, he's right about the lamp post too. Don't try this at home, kids.

Dave

Simple way to make this closer to reality;
Use an actual 767 (or for a less expensive test use a mothballed 707, 727 or DC9) on its wheels and standing still. Use a rocket sled to propel a steel column towards it ( or several columns lined parallel to the wings and linked together at top and bottom)

Then again it may be less of an engineering feat to rocket sled an aircraft at a line of columns rather than the other way about.

jaydeehess · 6th April 2011, 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by Dog Town

Always thought it looked like a seagull. But yeah, MaGZ is special, in so many ways.

yeah, the above references to a pigeon threw me. I thought is was more seagull-like myself.

,,, and smoke generators.... whatever did become of bill smith? He owes me a link to a video he swore he would post.

CompusMentus · 7th April 2011, 06:10 AM

More currently, it looks like Aldo at CIT is well on his way down the highway to La-la Land (first turning right after the Cloud Cuckoo Motel).

THIS, his last post at the NOC forum, flies through a whole gamut of CT woo including HAARP, chemtrails, mind control, satanism, peadophilia, which brings about.....

Quote:

.....the suppression and subversion of our evidence

:=]

Compus

DGM · 7th April 2011, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by jaydeehess

Then again it may be less of an engineering feat to rocket sled an aircraft at a line of columns rather than the other way about.

Just get a "truther" to fly the plane (pft/911 must have someone). To be safe, use a couple airbags and seat-belts. The plane's only going to bounce off. Right?

grandmastershek · 7th April 2011, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by Edx

hahah! Is this by any chance a user called infoseeker264 ?

I had a massive long argument over youtube PM's which ended up with him just throwing insults at me and saying he didn't care anymore.

He said that they could have put the explosives in mufflers the same way you can make a silencer for a gun. I told him that silencers only work on projectiles moving slower than the speed of sound and so by definition would never work with high explosives. He didn't get it though.

I am not sure of his chat name. IIRC he also told me the reason explosives didn't register on seismograph was because the columns were cut with thermite so the building was like a giant spring absorbing the shocks; I know, doesn't make sense to me either. May not be the same guy though. After long enough all the kooks just kind of meld together.

Gamolon · 12th April 2011, 07:29 AM

Well, I was wrong.

The truthers just "one-upped" themselves. Here is a "Mr. Jones" comparing the collapse of WTC7 to a...

..A HUMAN SKULL!!!!

Originally Posted by Mr. Jones

So you're saying the inside of the building fell down.....??? There was no dustpile coming from the lobby if it did...it would have surely made some kind of deformation on the outside of the building that would have been visable...I again ask you, is it possible for a persons skull to disintegrate without seeing their face look strange?? I mean it's the same concept,...So many parts interconnected in that 47 story building and no visible deformities that suggest what you say is even the slightest bit possible.

Please stop the stupid...

My sides hurt!

I Ratant · 12th April 2011, 08:27 AM

Originally Posted by Dave Rogers

...

And, to be honest, he's right about the lamp post too. Don't try this at home, kids.

Dave

.
I done that!
On the freeway, on my motorcycle, at 65 mph.
Took a foot off the footpeg, and dragged it on the pavement and over one of the Botts dots!OUCH!
One of the many things in life to do not at all.

I Ratant · 12th April 2011, 08:30 AM

Originally Posted by Dash80

I'm not sure what is worse, that or claiming the jumpers were CGI.

.
There's a video from inside one of the towers before it fell, with the thumps of the bodies hitting the pavement outside.

I Ratant · 12th April 2011, 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by DGM

Just get a "truther" to fly the plane (pft/911 must have someone). To be safe, use a couple airbags and seat-belts. The plane's only going to bounce off. Right?

.
The 707 NASA crashed didn't bounce harmlessly.

jaydeehess · 12th April 2011, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by CompusMentus

More currently, it looks like Aldo at CIT is well on his way down the highway to La-la Land (first turning right after the Cloud Cuckoo Motel).

THIS, his last post at the NOC forum, flies through a whole gamut of CT woo including HAARP, chemtrails, mind control, satanism, peadophilia, which brings about.....

:=]

Compus

Were you really suprised that Aldo is a HAARP conspiracy believer, or believe in the Republican Satanist pedophile ring, or chemtrails?

It was news to me but not suprising in the least.

5th April 2011, 10:03 AM	#1
Gamolon Master Poster Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,145	This is the best one yet... In another forum, I just had someone compare the design of the twin towers to a... ...wait for it... ...A MUFFLER!!! This is why the explosives on the core columns were not heard! My sides hurt from laughing... Just thought I'd share.
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5th April 2011, 10:09 AM	#2
A W Smith Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 7,032	911 was a cherry bomb glasspack job executed by 19 muffler men
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5th April 2011, 12:19 PM	#5
timhau NWO Litter Technician Join Date: May 2004 Location: Looks like Finland. Smells like Finland. Quacks like Finland. Where the hell am I? Posts: 12,975	Well, the towers were longish, metallic objects. You know what else is longish and metallic? A silencer. And in this case, they were gigantic. And there were two of them. That's enough silencing power to silence the nuclear hand grenades that were used in the demolition.
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5th April 2011, 12:36 PM	#6
Epic New Blood Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 11	I have another instant classic for you. Last week one truther stated that there clearly was smoke generators in WTC7 since there was so much smoke
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5th April 2011, 12:49 PM	#8
Quad4_72 AI-EE-YAH! Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 6,354	Originally Posted by Epic I have another instant classic for you. Last week one truther stated that there clearly was smoke generators in WTC7 since there was so much smoke LOL at smoke generators.
Quad4_72 AI-EE-YAH! Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 6,354	__________________ Looks like the one on top has a magazine, thus needs less reloading. Also, the muzzle shroud makes it less likely for a spree killer to burn his hands. The pistol grip makes it more comfortable for the spree killer to shoot. thaiboxerken

5th April 2011, 10:19 AM	#3
9/11 Chewy Defense Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,593	Originally Posted by Gamolon In another forum, I just had someone compare the design of the twin towers to a... ...wait for it... ...A MUFFLER!!! This is why the explosives on the core columns were not heard! My sides hurt from laughing... Just thought I'd share. OMG, that's retarded!

5th April 2011, 10:48 AM	#4
AJM8125 Potsing Whiled Runk Tagger Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 20,283	Wow. I don't know if that tops my craziest truther: He's a no-planer who believes there's no way a 767's wing could cut through an I-beam (yes, he thinks the perimeter columns were I-beams). To prove this, we shall set up a 767 wing horizontally and launch an I-beam (on a rocket sled, perhaps) at it, because it doesn't matter which object is moving and the entire mass and speed of the 767 is irrelevant. To demonstrate this he reasons that if you stick your head out of the window of a car moving 80 MPH and your head runs into say, a lamp post, your head will explode just the same as if the lamp post was doing 80 and your head was stationary. Haven't heard from him in a while. I hope he hasn't been experimenting.

5th April 2011, 12:48 PM	#7
NoahFence Banned Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Patriot Nation Posts: 22,131	Naw...the best one was the bomb at the Pentagon that shot airplane parts from INSIDE the building to the OUTSIDE to account for the wreckage on the lawn.

5th April 2011, 01:27 PM	#9
twinstead Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 12,370	Bill Smith brought smoke generators up here. Good times...
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5th April 2011, 01:35 PM	#10
NoahFence Banned Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Patriot Nation Posts: 22,131	I forget if it was here or on Facebook, but someone suggested that the collapse of the North Tower was supposed to take down WTC 7 - but it started becoming obvious that it failed. So (ah hem...) "they" proceeded to plan and execute the implosion of WTC 7. After the North Tower hit it. While it was on fire. Planned AND executed it. And truthers wonder why they're not taken seriously?

5th April 2011, 01:42 PM	#11
Dog Town Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 6,862	Originally Posted by Quad4_72 LOL at smoke generators. Not just smoke generators! Generators that produced smoke faces of the devil! I believe that was a KKK Clown (AKA Killtown) "discovery"!
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5th April 2011, 02:40 PM	#12
Sabretooth No Ordinary Rabbit Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Wyoming, NY Posts: 6,710	Originally Posted by NoahFence Naw...the best one was the bomb at the Pentagon that shot airplane parts from INSIDE the building to the OUTSIDE to account for the wreckage on the lawn. I think this is my favorite. I can't help but imagine a big old canister shooting out plane parts like confetti all over the lawn.
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5th April 2011, 04:24 PM	#13
dc1971 Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3,021	Originally Posted by Gamolon In another forum... I wouldn't mind catching some wind of this argument. What forum do you refer to?
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5th April 2011, 10:40 PM	#14
Dash80 Rave on, Not Fade Away Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 2,186	Originally Posted by Gamolon In another forum, I just had someone compare the design of the twin towers to a... ...wait for it... ...A MUFFLER!!! This is why the explosives on the core columns were not heard! My sides hurt from laughing... Just thought I'd share. Wow... that is ten kinds of stupid all in one.
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6th April 2011, 02:04 AM	#15
Dave Rogers Bandaged ice that stampedes inexpensively through a scribbled morning waving necessary ankles Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cair Paravel, according to XKCD Posts: 28,345	Originally Posted by AJM8125 To prove this, we shall set up a 767 wing horizontally and launch an I-beam (on a rocket sled, perhaps) at it, because it doesn't matter which object is moving and the entire mass and speed of the 767 is irrelevant. As long as the wing was restrained at its inboard end, that experiment would be reasonably valid. Of course, the experiment would need careful design so as to be representative of the structure, and your truther would rationalise away the results because the wing would cut the column if the design was correct, but he's right in that it's only relative velocity that matters; there is, in fact, no such thing as absolute velocity, even in classical physics. There will be a slight perturbation from the fact that the wing is anchored to a fixed structure rather than to an airliner, which could react to the impact, but I suspect that the difference would be fairly minor because the elastic response of the wing would be too slow compared to the duration of the impact. And, to be honest, he's right about the lamp post too. Don't try this at home, kids. Dave
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6th April 2011, 02:40 AM	#16
CompusMentus Waiting for the Worms Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,591	If we ran a contest for most daft 9/11 CT'er I think Web Fairy would be a major contender. Her output of battiness is staggering. Ie her theory that UAV's disguised as geese planted explosives on the exterior facade of the twin towers on the eve of 9/11. Also that it was a pain-ray fired from helicopters that made the people jump from the buildings. Compus
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6th April 2011, 04:55 AM	#17
Dash80 Rave on, Not Fade Away Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 2,186	Personally I think this pile of bullcrap is the most crazy of them all. And it's forum of twisted funny farm escapees Calling victims "sims", mocking their photos, laughing at pictures of families crying. PATHETIC
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6th April 2011, 05:09 AM	#18
MRC_Hans Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 21,680	Originally Posted by Dash80 Personally I think this pile of bullcrap is the most crazy of them all. And it's forum of twisted funny farm escapees Calling victims "sims", mocking their photos, laughing at pictures of families crying. PATHETIC From that site: Quote: However, the September Clues research has determined that the alleged victims were fictitious identities mostly/or entirely created within the digital realm. The 9/11 hoax - and the phony "War on Terror" - are definitively exposed by method revealed. Who volunteers to go there and tell them that the "War on Terror" is also a sim? There are no soldiers in Iraq and Afgainstan. Saddam Hussein is still happily ruling Iraq, we have just paid him to keep a low profile. .... They have been talking about 'misinformation agents', but perhaps we should take them up on it? Plant some stories that are silly, but still more probable than theirs (should be easy). Hans
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6th April 2011, 05:29 AM	#19
Epic New Blood Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 11	Originally Posted by twinstead Bill Smith brought smoke generators up here. Good times... Oh, the smoke generators have came up all ready. I have other ones from same truther. He also argued that the mechanical penthouse of WTC7 did`t fall in to the building. It was cut down to the roof as a bluff. It was clear out at night before and was weakened with grinders. "Just look at the videos, only an idiot would think the penthouse fell into the building". He also argued that spraying water in to molten metal can`t cause a steam explosion.
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6th April 2011, 05:43 AM	#20
Foolmewunz Grammar Resistance Leader TLA Dictator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Pattaya, Thailand Posts: 39,639	Originally Posted by Dash80 Personally I think this pile of bullcrap is the most crazy of them all. And it's forum of twisted funny farm escapees Calling victims "sims", mocking their photos, laughing at pictures of families crying. PATHETIC In the spirit of this thread, September Clues is not funny, or crazy, or whacky. They are sick sacks of fecal matter. And yeah, they rate right up there with Killtown in that category. Back on topic. Ah, the memories. MaGZ and his pigeon that he insisted was a guided missile was one of my favorites,and we all have fond memories of, what was it again?... 3 inch rebar on 4 foot cores.... but for sheer lunacy have you veterans forgotten about the pterodactyls. What? Did he say "pterodactyls"? What's that got to do with 9/11??!! Ha! Read 'em and weap, duhbunkers! http://www.s8int.com/eyewit22.html
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6th April 2011, 06:44 AM	#21
Dash80 Rave on, Not Fade Away Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 2,186	Originally Posted by Foolmewunz In the spirit of this thread, September Clues is not funny, or crazy, or whacky. They are sick sacks of fecal matter. And yeah, they rate right up there with Killtown in that category. Absolutely, nothing at all funny about these steaming piles of sewage. I still think they are padded cell candidate loons though. Back on topic. Ah, the memories. MaGZ and his pigeon that he insisted was a guided missile was one of my favorites,and we all have fond memories of, what was it again?... 3 inch rebar on 4 foot cores.... but for sheer lunacy have you veterans forgotten about the pterodactyls. What? Did he say "pterodactyls"? What's that got to do with 9/11??!! Ha! Read 'em and weap, duhbunkers! http://www.s8int.com/eyewit22.html Oh I'd forgotten about that one. The top secret "flapping missile" or as I'll name it: "Advanced Balistic Pigeon Technology" As for the pterodactyl... I think that person was smoking something.
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6th April 2011, 07:12 AM	#22
MRC_Hans Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 21,680	Allow me to remind you all of a certain Carlos Swett. Hans (runs and hides)
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6th April 2011, 07:35 AM	#23
CompusMentus Waiting for the Worms Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,591	Originally Posted by Foolmewunz In the spirit of this thread, September Clues is not funny, or crazy, or whacky. They are sick sacks of fecal matter. And yeah, they rate right up there with Killtown in that category. I also remember, on a Jim Fetzer web "radio" show with Judy Wood as a guest, a phone-caller suggested that no-one jumped from the WTC but that those poor people were thrown out of the towers by "Israeli black-ops" teams. My first inclination would have been to at least ask the idiot for some type of evidence. Fetzer of course just ummed and arred and let it pass. *********** sick. Compus
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6th April 2011, 07:48 AM	#24
Dash80 Rave on, Not Fade Away Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 2,186	Originally Posted by CompusMentus I also remember, on a Jim Fetzer web "radio" show with Judy Wood as a guest, a phone-caller suggested that no-one jumped from the WTC but that those poor people were thrown out of the towers by "Israeli black-ops" teams. My first inclination would have been to at least ask the idiot for some type of evidence. Fetzer of course just ummed and arred and let it pass. *********** sick. Compus I'm not sure what is worse, that or claiming the jumpers were CGI.
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6th April 2011, 08:10 AM	#25
Gamolon Master Poster Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,145	Originally Posted by dc1971 I wouldn't mind catching some wind of this argument. What forum do you refer to? It's the UsMessageBoard, conspiracy section. Lot's of dumb going on there.
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6th April 2011, 08:16 AM	#26
NoahFence Banned Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Patriot Nation Posts: 22,131	Anybody hear the "ball" theory? Using the single worst quality video they could find, some truthers claimed the 2nd aircraft was a "ball of some sort". They readily admitted that an aircraft hit the 1st twin tower, the Pentagon and even admitted a plane crashed in Shanksville. Yet the 2nd plane, the one seen by millions, was fabricated.

6th April 2011, 08:53 AM	#27
Dash80 Rave on, Not Fade Away Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 2,186	Originally Posted by NoahFence Anybody hear the "ball" theory? Using the single worst quality video they could find, some truthers claimed the 2nd aircraft was a "ball of some sort". They readily admitted that an aircraft hit the 1st twin tower, the Pentagon and even admitted a plane crashed in Shanksville. Yet the 2nd plane, the one seen by millions, was fabricated. Three words: What the ****!
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6th April 2011, 09:30 AM	#28
grandmastershek Graduate Poster Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,456	Originally Posted by Gamolon In another forum, I just had someone compare the design of the twin towers to a... ...wait for it... ...A MUFFLER!!! This is why the explosives on the core columns were not heard! My sides hurt from laughing... Just thought I'd share. Yeah...I know that guy from youtube. He also compares it to a silencer, as if they are the same thing. After explaining that mufflers and silencers have their ignitions outside of the actual device and allegedly the WTC bombs were inside the building the dancing commenced. I then pointed out that it would be like a muffler having a backfire and a couple dozens holes drilled in it. That resulted in him making up characteristics of the glass in the WTC. Like every other truther he has locked himself in his own personal thought prison.
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6th April 2011, 09:36 AM	#29
Edx Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 5,642	Originally Posted by grandmastershek Yeah...I know that guy from youtube. He also compares it to a silencer, as if they are the same thing. After explaining that mufflers and silencers have their ignitions outside of the actual device and allegedly the WTC bombs were inside the building the dancing commenced. I then pointed out that it would be like a muffler having a backfire and a couple dozens holes drilled in it. That resulted in him making up characteristics of the glass in the WTC. Like every other truther he has locked himself in his own personal thought prison. hahah! Is this by any chance a user called infoseeker264 ? I had a massive long argument over youtube PM's which ended up with him just throwing insults at me and saying he didn't care anymore. He said that they could have put the explosives in mufflers the same way you can make a silencer for a gun. I told him that silencers only work on projectiles moving slower than the speed of sound and so by definition would never work with high explosives. He didn't get it though.
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6th April 2011, 12:42 PM	#30
Dog Town Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 6,862	Originally Posted by Foolmewunz Ah, the memories. MaGZ and his pigeon Always thought it looked like a seagull. But yeah, MaGZ is special, in so many ways.
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6th April 2011, 08:18 PM	#31
jaydeehess Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: 40 miles north of the border Posts: 20,821	Originally Posted by Dave Rogers As long as the wing was restrained at its inboard end, that experiment would be reasonably valid. Of course, the experiment would need careful design so as to be representative of the structure, and your truther would rationalise away the results because the wing would cut the column if the design was correct, but he's right in that it's only relative velocity that matters; there is, in fact, no such thing as absolute velocity, even in classical physics. There will be a slight perturbation from the fact that the wing is anchored to a fixed structure rather than to an airliner, which could react to the impact, but I suspect that the difference would be fairly minor because the elastic response of the wing would be too slow compared to the duration of the impact. And, to be honest, he's right about the lamp post too. Don't try this at home, kids. Dave Simple way to make this closer to reality; Use an actual 767 (or for a less expensive test use a mothballed 707, 727 or DC9) on its wheels and standing still. Use a rocket sled to propel a steel column towards it ( or several columns lined parallel to the wings and linked together at top and bottom) Then again it may be less of an engineering feat to rocket sled an aircraft at a line of columns rather than the other way about.

6th April 2011, 08:21 PM	#32
jaydeehess Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: 40 miles north of the border Posts: 20,821	Originally Posted by Dog Town Always thought it looked like a seagull. But yeah, MaGZ is special, in so many ways. yeah, the above references to a pigeon threw me. I thought is was more seagull-like myself. ,,, and smoke generators.... whatever did become of bill smith? He owes me a link to a video he swore he would post.

7th April 2011, 06:10 AM	#33
CompusMentus Waiting for the Worms Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,591	More currently, it looks like Aldo at CIT is well on his way down the highway to La-la Land (first turning right after the Cloud Cuckoo Motel). THIS, his last post at the NOC forum, flies through a whole gamut of CT woo including HAARP, chemtrails, mind control, satanism, peadophilia, which brings about..... Quote: .....the suppression and subversion of our evidence :=] Compus
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7th April 2011, 10:28 AM	#34
DGM Skeptic not Atheist Join Date: May 2007 Location: West of Northshore MA Posts: 24,658	Originally Posted by jaydeehess Then again it may be less of an engineering feat to rocket sled an aircraft at a line of columns rather than the other way about. Just get a "truther" to fly the plane (pft/911 must have someone). To be safe, use a couple airbags and seat-belts. The plane's only going to bounce off. Right?
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7th April 2011, 10:42 AM	#35
grandmastershek Graduate Poster Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,456	Originally Posted by Edx hahah! Is this by any chance a user called infoseeker264 ? I had a massive long argument over youtube PM's which ended up with him just throwing insults at me and saying he didn't care anymore. He said that they could have put the explosives in mufflers the same way you can make a silencer for a gun. I told him that silencers only work on projectiles moving slower than the speed of sound and so by definition would never work with high explosives. He didn't get it though. I am not sure of his chat name. IIRC he also told me the reason explosives didn't register on seismograph was because the columns were cut with thermite so the building was like a giant spring absorbing the shocks; I know, doesn't make sense to me either. May not be the same guy though. After long enough all the kooks just kind of meld together.
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