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This is the best one yet...
In another forum, I just had someone compare the design of the twin towers to a...
...wait for it... ...A MUFFLER!!! This is why the explosives on the core columns were not heard! ![]() My sides hurt from laughing... Just thought I'd share. |
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Wow.
I don't know if that tops my craziest truther: He's a no-planer who believes there's no way a 767's wing could cut through an I-beam (yes, he thinks the perimeter columns were I-beams). To prove this, we shall set up a 767 wing horizontally and launch an I-beam (on a rocket sled, perhaps) at it, because it doesn't matter which object is moving and the entire mass and speed of the 767 is irrelevant. To demonstrate this he reasons that if you stick your head out of the window of a car moving 80 MPH and your head runs into say, a lamp post, your head will explode just the same as if the lamp post was doing 80 and your head was stationary. Haven't heard from him in a while. I hope he hasn't been experimenting. |
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Well, the towers were longish, metallic objects. You know what else is longish and metallic?
A silencer. And in this case, they were gigantic. And there were two of them. That's enough silencing power to silence the nuclear hand grenades that were used in the demolition. |
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I have another instant classic for you. Last week one truther stated that there clearly was smoke generators in WTC7 since there was so much smoke
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Naw...the best one was the bomb at the Pentagon that shot airplane parts from INSIDE the building to the OUTSIDE to account for the wreckage on the lawn.
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Looks like the one on top has a magazine, thus needs less reloading. Also, the muzzle shroud makes it less likely for a spree killer to burn his hands. The pistol grip makes it more comfortable for the spree killer to shoot. thaiboxerken |
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Bill Smith brought smoke generators up here. Good times...
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I forget if it was here or on Facebook, but someone suggested that the collapse of the North Tower was supposed to take down WTC 7 - but it started becoming obvious that it failed. So (ah hem...) "they" proceeded to plan and execute the implosion of WTC 7.
After the North Tower hit it. While it was on fire. Planned AND executed it. And truthers wonder why they're not taken seriously? |
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I see that the No-Planers still travel Air Elastic-Band with their fleet of innovative rubber Boeings. |
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As long as the wing was restrained at its inboard end, that experiment would be reasonably valid. Of course, the experiment would need careful design so as to be representative of the structure, and your truther would rationalise away the results because the wing would cut the column if the design was correct, but he's right in that it's only relative velocity that matters; there is, in fact, no such thing as absolute velocity, even in classical physics. There will be a slight perturbation from the fact that the wing is anchored to a fixed structure rather than to an airliner, which could react to the impact, but I suspect that the difference would be fairly minor because the elastic response of the wing would be too slow compared to the duration of the impact.
And, to be honest, he's right about the lamp post too. Don't try this at home, kids. Dave |
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If we ran a contest for most daft 9/11 CT'er I think Web Fairy would be a major contender. Her output of battiness is staggering. Ie her theory that UAV's disguised as geese planted explosives on the exterior facade of the twin towers on the eve of 9/11. Also that it was a pain-ray fired from helicopters that made the people jump from the buildings.
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Personally I think this pile of bullcrap is the most crazy of them all.
And it's forum of twisted funny farm escapees Calling victims "sims", mocking their photos, laughing at pictures of families crying. PATHETIC ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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From that site:
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.... They have been talking about 'misinformation agents', but perhaps we should take them up on it? Plant some stories that are silly, but still more probable than theirs (should be easy). Hans |
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Oh, the smoke generators have came up all ready.
I have other ones from same truther. He also argued that the mechanical penthouse of WTC7 did`t fall in to the building. It was cut down to the roof as a bluff. It was clear out at night before and was weakened with grinders. "Just look at the videos, only an idiot would think the penthouse fell into the building". He also argued that spraying water in to molten metal can`t cause a steam explosion. |
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In the spirit of this thread, September Clues is not funny, or crazy, or whacky. They are sick sacks of fecal matter. And yeah, they rate right up there with Killtown in that category.
Back on topic. Ah, the memories. MaGZ and his pigeon that he insisted was a guided missile was one of my favorites,and we all have fond memories of, what was it again?... 3 inch rebar on 4 foot cores.... but for sheer lunacy have you veterans forgotten about the pterodactyls. What? Did he say "pterodactyls"? What's that got to do with 9/11??!! Ha! Read 'em and weap, duhbunkers! http://www.s8int.com/eyewit22.html |
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Allow me to remind you all of a certain Carlos Swett.
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I also remember, on a Jim Fetzer web "radio" show with Judy Wood as a guest, a phone-caller suggested that no-one jumped from the WTC but that those poor people were thrown out of the towers by "Israeli black-ops" teams. My first inclination would have been to at least ask the idiot for some type of evidence. Fetzer of course just ummed and arred and let it pass. *********** sick. Compus |
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Anybody hear the "ball" theory?
Using the single worst quality video they could find, some truthers claimed the 2nd aircraft was a "ball of some sort". They readily admitted that an aircraft hit the 1st twin tower, the Pentagon and even admitted a plane crashed in Shanksville. Yet the 2nd plane, the one seen by millions, was fabricated. |
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Yeah...I know that guy from youtube. He also compares it to a silencer, as if they are the same thing. After explaining that mufflers and silencers have their ignitions outside of the actual device and allegedly the WTC bombs were inside the building the dancing commenced. I then pointed out that it would be like a muffler having a backfire and a couple dozens holes drilled in it. That resulted in him making up characteristics of the glass in the WTC. Like every other truther he has locked himself in his own personal thought prison.
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hahah! Is this by any chance a user called infoseeker264 ? I had a massive long argument over youtube PM's which ended up with him just throwing insults at me and saying he didn't care anymore. He said that they could have put the explosives in mufflers the same way you can make a silencer for a gun. I told him that silencers only work on projectiles moving slower than the speed of sound and so by definition would never work with high explosives. He didn't get it though. |
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Simple way to make this closer to reality;
Use an actual 767 (or for a less expensive test use a mothballed 707, 727 or DC9) on its wheels and standing still. Use a rocket sled to propel a steel column towards it ( or several columns lined parallel to the wings and linked together at top and bottom) Then again it may be less of an engineering feat to rocket sled an aircraft at a line of columns rather than the other way about. |
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More currently, it looks like Aldo at CIT is well on his way down the highway to La-la Land (first turning right after the Cloud Cuckoo Motel).
THIS, his last post at the NOC forum, flies through a whole gamut of CT woo including HAARP, chemtrails, mind control, satanism, peadophilia, which brings about.....
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I am not sure of his chat name. IIRC he also told me the reason explosives didn't register on seismograph was because the columns were cut with thermite so the building was like a giant spring absorbing the shocks; I know, doesn't make sense to me either. May not be the same guy though. After long enough all the kooks just kind of meld together.
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Well, I was wrong.
The truthers just "one-upped" themselves. Here is a "Mr. Jones" comparing the collapse of WTC7 to a... ..A HUMAN SKULL!!!! ![]()
Originally Posted by Mr. Jones
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