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JFK Conspiracy Theories: It Never Ends

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Walter Ego

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When the Internet was in its infancy, a friend of mine introduced me to Internet newsgroups. I was thrilled at the idea of being able to instantly communicate with other serious researchers like myself from around the globe. He logged on to alt.conspiracy.jfk and turned the keyboard and mouse over to me. I eagerly began browsing the topics and reading a few entries. "Oh my gawd!" I exclaimed, absolutely horrified. "These people are nuttier than a fruit cake!" My friend laughed his fool head off.

To say that things have only gotten worse would be an understatement. My early vision of an Internet utopia where serious research and discussion of the Kennedy assassination would lead to truth and clarity floundered on the rocks of reality on day one. It never occurred to me that the Internet might allow lonely, irrational, and psychotic people to clutter up the chat rooms and discussion boards. And God knows, the Kennedy assassination is one big magnet.

The worse part about the Internet and the Kennedy assassination is that the technology has allowed old myths to rise from the ashes and proliferate. Spin down the subject headings of any newsgroup: The Figure in the Doorway, Two Rifles on the Sixth Floor, The Sidewalk Scar, Tommy Tilson's Car Chase, James Files and the Dented Cartridge Case, and on and on. These subjects were not just debunked decades ago - they were destroyed beyond recognition and don't belong in any serious discussion, except perhaps as part of a brief and whimsical look back on what passed for "important" issues. Yet, there they are - hot, time-wasting topics for a new generation of young, naive minds. Sadly, this cycle of endless myth-making, destruction, and resurrection will never go away. It is the heart of the Internet.

Posted by Dale K. Myers

http://jfkfiles.blogspot.com/2007/06/it-never-ends.html
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Nothing has changed much on alt.conspiracy.jfk since Myers wrote this back in 2007. Check out this thread to see how the conspiracy loons handle even mild criticism.
 
Yes the same affect and reaction was noted for archaeology and pseudo-archaeology. The internet allowed the crackpots to organize!
 
Last time I dabbled Mac Wallace was meant to have shot JFK for LBJ. With or with out the CIA merging the lives of Lee and Harvey Oswalds.


It got even more insane than that?
 
Tomtomkent said:
Last time I dabbled Mac Wallace was meant to have shot JFK for LBJ. With or with out the CIA merging the lives of Lee and Harvey Oswalds.


It got even more insane than that?
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Mac Wallace was just one of many alternative assassins, including Woody Harrelson's father (who along with E. Howard Hunt was one of the three tramps). And let's not forget Ricky Don White who announced in 1990 that My Daddy Killed JFK, something that Woody would not even fess up to.
 
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Has the JFK crowd already taken the inevitable turn that all CT's take: the conclusion that the Jews were behind it?
 
Eddie Dane said:
Has the JFK crowd already taken the inevitable turn that all CT's take: the conclusion that the Jews were behind it?
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In general no, but there are several antisemitic conspiracy theorists like Michael Collins Piper and Gregory Douglas who have tried to ride the interest in JFK and produced antisemitically-inflected JFK CTs.
 
Eddie Dane said:
Has the JFK crowd already taken the inevitable turn that all CT's take: the conclusion that the Jews were behind it?
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No, actually. The favorite suspects have been the same for the last 40 plus years. CIA, mob, Castro, military industrial complex, LBJ, etc.

The JFK conspiracy kooktards are as detestable as their 9/11 truther counterparts (who, in delicious irony, they label as kooks) in their arrogance but anti-semitism is one charge you can't use against them.
 
Eddie Dane said:
Has the JFK crowd already taken the inevitable turn that all CT's take: the conclusion that the Jews were behind it?
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Yes, they have. One obsessive "anti-Zionist" I know on the internet has decided that it came down to JFK trying to stop Israel getting nuclear weapons. So the Israelis had JFK whacked and then LBJ winked at their nuclear weapons programme. This "theorist" even concocted his own versions of JFK speeches such as the "secret society" speech by replacing the actual words with things like "Israel" and "Mossad" etc...

Apparently James Jesus Angleton was also involved somehow.
 
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timhau said:
"Organize" is probably too strong a word, and it has connotations that certainly do not apply. "Reach a critical mass of stupid" is more like it.
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I bow to a superior statement
 
Any Critical Thinkers Here? I doubt it.

Walter Ego said:
No, actually. The favorite suspects have been the same for the last 40 plus years. CIA, mob, Castro, military industrial complex, LBJ, etc.

The JFK conspiracy kooktards are as detestable as their 9/11 truther counterparts (who, in delicious irony, they label as kooks) in their arrogance but anti-semitism is one charge you can't use against them.
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"Kooktards, Truther counterparts, anti-Zionists, Conspiracy Nuts, etc., etc., etc. And here I thought this forum was for critical thinkers.

Here's a question I submit no one dare answer: What is the one single strongest piece of evidence proving a lone assassin? On previous JFK boards, no one dare answer betraying (A. a lack of scholarship on the subject, or (B. a retreat into the fog of a thousand pieces of evidenciary minutia, not one piece of which holds up under scrutiny..
 
Robert Prey said:
"Kooktards, Truther counterparts, anti-Zionists, Conspiracy Nuts, etc., etc., etc. And here I thought this forum was for critical thinkers.

Here's a question I submit no one dare answer: What is the one single strongest piece of evidence proving a lone assassin? On previous JFK boards, no one dare answer betraying (A. a lack of scholarship on the subject, or (B. a retreat into the fog of a thousand pieces of evidenciary minutia, not one piece of which holds up under scrutiny..
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That's a loaded question - and you know it. There's no single piece of "strongest evidence". Put everything together, though - for the conspiracy believers or for the adherents of the single assassin, and the gestalt of anyone viewing the evidence without bias would fall to the side of the lone gunman.


Although I'm always still a bit suspicious as to why the Warren Commission didn't uncover anything on the former club connections between Ruby and Oswald.
 
I also like the way that Conspiracy Folks need to justify Lee Harvey Oswald being both pro and anti cuban with something other "The kind of guy who joins those kinds of groups for attention".
 
Robert Prey said:
"Kooktards, Truther counterparts, anti-Zionists, Conspiracy Nuts, etc., etc., etc. And here I thought this forum was for critical thinkers.

Here's a question I submit no one dare answer: What is the one single strongest piece of evidence proving a lone assassin? On previous JFK boards, no one dare answer betraying (A. a lack of scholarship on the subject, or (B. a retreat into the fog of a thousand pieces of evidenciary minutia, not one piece of which holds up under scrutiny..
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The backyard photographs.

Admittedly you cannot deduce from that that he was the lone assassin but in the absence of evidence that there were other assassins that seems to be the best thing going.
 
angrysoba said:
The backyard photographs.

Admittedly you cannot deduce from that that he was the lone assassin but in the absence of evidence that there were other assassins that seems to be the best thing going.
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Uh oh! Counting down to Jack White in 3.... 2....
 
We only have evidence for Oswald. Any more, or different shooters are possible, but are not plausible with out evidence to support them. There is evidence that suggests the possibility, but little more in real terms.
 
Foolmewunz said:
Uh oh! Counting down to Jack White in 3.... 2....
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You mean this Jack White? :eye-poppi

Jack White, statement on the assassination of John F. Kennedy (31st March, 2004)

(1) President Kennedy was murdered by a cabal headed by Lyndon Johnson, Allen Dulles, J. Edgar Hoover and Richard Nixon. The CIA and Pentagon carried out the hit... with help from Cubans and mobsters.

(2) Lee Oswald and Harvey Oswald were agents of the CIA and did not kill JFK. Both were controlled by the CIA.

(3) Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King were killed by the same cabal. Similar fate befell several others who threatened the cabal, such as George Wallace, Larry Flynt, John Lennon and Marilyn Monroe. Teddy Kennedy and Richard Nixon also were "eliminated" by the cabal. An attempt on the life of President Reagan tried to install G.H.W. Bush as president, but it failed, and Bush One had to wait his turn. Gerald Ford was installed as president because he was a willing stooge of the cabal.

(4) It is scientifically provable that the Zapruder film of the JFK assassination is a fabrication by the government.
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Teddy Kennedy and Richard Nixon? The conspirators sure took their sweet time "eliminating" them. I guess that's why "eliminated" is in scare quotes. And Robert Prey is upset that I called people like this "kooktards"? :confused:
 
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Walter Ego said:
You mean this Jack White? :eye-poppi
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Yep, pretty sure that's the same Jack White. The self-described "photo expert". He's also got some charming work on the Pentagon,and Apollo Hoax, I believe. Funny how that puff piece in your link doesn't describe his embarassing testimony in front of the Warren Commission - on the topic of the backyard photos, which is why I alluded to him.

(He's often cited as the grand poobah of photographic evidence and is a complete charlatan in that area, but conspiradroids love him.)
 
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