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Old 20th July 2012, 05:50 AM   #1
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Angry The Colorado movie theater shooting was a gov. initiated false-flag event/Alex Jones

There is a huge security presence at every airport (obviously) and every major sporting event requires bag screening with some metal detectors. The movie theater was the last vestige of a time in America where people were free of big brother while gathered in large public concentrations.

The 24 year old shooter James Holmes was a CIA patsy for a move to new legislation and public opinion to require broad security measures at cinemas around the country. This is a wind-fall for companies like Giuliani Partners that provide private security and comes at a time when the Obama administration needs a mass hiring event for thousands of new TSA screeners.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/03/bu...pagewanted=all

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Old 20th July 2012, 05:51 AM   #2
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Originally Posted by dvictr View Post
There is a huge security presence at every airport (obviously) and every major sporting event requires bag screening with some metal detectors. The movie theater was the last vestige of a time in America where people were free of big brother while gathered in large public concentrations.

The 24 year old shooter James Holmes was a CIA patsy for a move to new legislation and public opinion to require broad security measures at cinemas around the country. This is a wind-fall for companies Giuliani Partners that provide private security and comes at a time when the Obama administration needs a mass hiring event for thousands of new TSA screeners.

This conspiracy relates to revenue generation and profit. The shooter may have been mind controlled by HAARP like technology to carry out the massacre and Eric Holdren can move the attention away from 2 Fast 2 Furious.
There's less truth in this than in the Batman film they were going to see
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Old 20th July 2012, 06:00 AM   #3
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this shooting is really a disaster for the Hollywood Industrial Complex. They are set to lose millions of dollars over this. I bet they had an emergency meeting last night to access the situation and initiate a damage control process to limit the ticket sale loses.

President Obama will go on record as saying.. "America needs to move forward, go out and watch Batman twice, buy that XL popcorn/soda"

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Old 20th July 2012, 06:04 AM   #4
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Originally Posted by dvictr View Post
this shooting is really a disaster for the Hollywood Industrial Complex. They are set to lose millions of dollars over this. I bet they had an emergency meeting last night to access the situation and initiate a damage control process to limit the ticket sale loses.

Really? I already arranged to go to the film the day after tomorrow with a friend, and then have dinner afterwards. We are not going to change our plans. Why should we?

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Old 20th July 2012, 06:07 AM   #5
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Really? I already arranged to go to the film the day after tomorrow with a friend, and then have dinner afterwards. We are not going to change our plans. Why should we?

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it will have some affect on the opening weekend.. maybe 10-20% lower, some people will sit it out over respect for the dead or because they are truly concerned for their safety.

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Really? I already arranged to go to the film the day after tomorrow with a friend, and then have dinner afterwards. We are not going to change our plans. Why should we?

Rolfe.
I wouldn't bother, it's awful - especially the bit when they outrun cold!
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Originally Posted by dvictr View Post
it will have some affect on the opening weekend.. maybe 10-20% lower, some people will sit it out over respect for the dead or because they are truly concerned for there safety.
Jeez, you're really focussing on the key issue, aren't you?
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Old 20th July 2012, 06:14 AM   #8
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Homeland Security is going to jump on this and Obama will find a way to hire thousands of unemployed to be Cinema Security Screeners .xray machines and bag checks at every cinema.. maybe even require ID to watch a movie. this is could be a windfall for the security industry.
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Old 20th July 2012, 06:16 AM   #9
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Originally Posted by dvictr View Post
Homeland Security is going to jump on this and Obama will find a way to hire thousands of unemployed to be Cinema Security Screeners .xray machines and bag checks at every cinema.. maybe even require ID to watch a movie. this is could be a windfall for the security industry.
Not sure if serious.
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I see that someone also called dvictr has posted over in another sub-forum that this was a damaging attack on the military-industrial complex. Perhaps you two should be debating these clearly opposed sides of the question with each other.

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Old 20th July 2012, 06:19 AM   #13
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every major sporting event has security screeners.. why not cinemas?

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There is a huge security presence at every airport (obviously) and every major sporting event requires bag screening with some metal detectors. The movie theater was the last vestige of a time in America where people were free of big brother while gathered in large public concentrations.

The 24 year old shooter James Holmes was a CIA patsy for a move to new legislation and public opinion to require broad security measures at cinemas around the country. This is a wind-fall for companies Giuliani Partners that provide private security and comes at a time when the Obama administration needs a mass hiring event for thousands of new TSA screeners.

This conspiracy relates to revenue generation and profit. The shooter may have been mind controlled by HAARP like technology to carry out the massacre and Eric Holdren can move the attention away from 2 Fast 2 Furious.
..and we'd have gotten away with it, too, if it weren't for you meddling KIDS!
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Old 20th July 2012, 06:21 AM   #15
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the cable news stations finally have an "event" to pick up the ratings

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/03/bu...pagewanted=all

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Originally Posted by dvictr View Post
There is a huge security presence at every airport (obviously) and every major sporting event requires bag screening with some metal detectors. The movie theater was the last vestige of a time in America where people were free of big brother while gathered in large public concentrations.

The 24 year old shooter James Holmes was a CIA patsy for a move to new legislation and public opinion to require broad security measures at cinemas around the country. This is a wind-fall for companies Giuliani Partners that provide private security and comes at a time when the Obama administration needs a mass hiring event for thousands of new TSA screeners.

This conspiracy relates to revenue generation and profit. The shooter may have been mind controlled by HAARP like technology to carry out the massacre and Eric Holdren can move the attention away from 2 Fast 2 Furious.
Shut.
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Old 20th July 2012, 06:27 AM   #17
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the cable news station executives are breathing a sigh of relief

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/03/bu...pagewanted=all

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Maybe CNN is just like an emergency room.”

That is what a longtime CNN employee theorized last year, during one of the channel’s predictable defeats in the Nielsen ratings.

When elections and explosions happen, people tune in to CNN, the same way they hurry to a hospital when they think they are having a heart attack. But people tend not to linger in either place — a reality that was reaffirmed for CNN this week when Nielsen ratings showed that April was the channel’s lowest-rated month in 10 years.
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Old 20th July 2012, 06:33 AM   #18
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the cable news stations finally have an "event" to pick up the ratings

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/03/bu...pagewanted=all
go away.
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Yea...people like you are pretty messed up. You want to skew something like this to fit your (equally messed up) world view while people are still trying to find out if one of their family members has been killed or not.

You are a vulture.
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The 24 year old shooter James Holmes was a CIA patsy for a move to new legislation and public opinion to require broad security measures at cinemas around the country.
wow...you really are "challenged" ain't ya...
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Sadly, not a contained opinion. Some choice samples of the valiant "info warriors" over at Alex Jones:

"if people weren’t weak they would be prepared to jump at him while he reloads and break his neck or they’d carry guns with AP rounds. then take photo and have the face analyzed."

"Anyone who know’s about the FREE MASON’s attack on the American people know they use the #11 in everything they do. I want you to look at the date the Columbine High School Shooting happened, and look at today’s date. “April 20, 1999″ Now look at today’s date. 7/20/2012 . When you take the months both event’s happened and add them up, you come up with the #11. Look at the day both event’s happened. 20th, and look at the state both event’s happened in. Time to condition the people to take away guns"

"The instant I saw this on reddit I already knew it was yet another gov. sponsored terror event for the gun ban agenda."

"DENVER AIRPORT MURAL GAS MASKED MAN WITH GUN , TODAY IN DENVER GAS MASKED MAN WITH GUN?"

"What is really F’d up is that everybody ran away to get themselves to safety but no one tried to stop this guy. There are a bunch of selfish *******s in this world and that’s what’s making this place go to ****."


What charming people. Not even a moment's pause and these armchair Columbos have already sussed the case and blamed the victims.
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There's something very sick about the mindset of the CTists who get excited by tragedy.
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go away.
God, with his inneundo that the news media is behing the killings the wacko is now stealing his whack theories from the 007 movie "Tommorow Never Dies".

I predicted in another thread before the shootings that TDKR would fuel conspriacy kooks because of the basic plot of the movie (which has political overtones),but not in this tragic way.
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it will have some affect on the opening weekend.. maybe 10-20% lower, some people will sit it out over respect for the dead or because they are truly concerned for their safety.
Sweet, I'll have an easier time getting tickets!
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SOme of wackjob TDKR fanboys, not satisfied with the notoriety they have gained in the past few days by their death threats against critics who did not like the film.are not posting that Disney/Marvel are behind the killings in hopes of keeping TDKR from beating The Avengers at the box office. And, sadly, I am not kidding.......
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this event really moved the intrade market.. the Warner Brothers execs are ******** there pants over lost revenue.

http://www.intrade.com/v4/markets/co...tractId=760956

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this event really moved the intrade market.. the Warner Brothers execs are ******** there pants over lost revenue.

http://www.intrade.com/v4/markets/co...tractId=760956
The graph shows that it was never the opinion of the intrade market that this movie would break all-time opening weekend box office records.

I honestly don't think this is going to affect anything except the conversation in the lines of people waiting to get in.

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The graph shows that it was never the opinion of the intrade market that this movie would break all-time opening weeking box office records.

I honestly don't think this is going to affect anything except the conversation in the lines of people waiting to get in.
there are other markets for "gross over 150m, 200m..."
http://www.intrade.com/v4/markets/co...tractId=756955

some people will stay home for safety and others out of respect
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Sadly, not a contained opinion. Some choice samples of the valiant "info warriors" over at Alex Jones:

"if people weren’t weak they would be prepared to jump at him while he reloads and break his neck or they’d carry guns with AP rounds. then take photo and have the face analyzed."
*twitch*

Only high-risk operators would carry around AP, and even people who own guns don't usually take them to a movie theatre. Unless you have trained, the natural and perfectly understandable responses are 1)run in terror, or b)cower in terror. "Jumping" at someone who's armed is contraindicated by just about every security professional in existence, unless one's life is under immediate threat, and it is not actually that easy to break someone's neck, especially if they're a crazed maniac fighting back.

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"What is really F’d up is that everybody ran away to get themselves to safety but no one tried to stop this guy. There are a bunch of selfish *******s in this world and that’s what’s making this place go to ****."
Again, that is exactly what you are supposed to do. Do not engage armed men unless you have no other choice, or it is actually your job. Get yourselves and others to safety, as best as you can.

I'm not sure if I can even blame Hollywood for this.
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some people will stay home for safety and others out of respect
I can almost understand staying away out of respect, but staying away because of concern for one's safety seems completely irrational.
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every major sporting event has security screeners.. why not cinemas?
Cinema hooliganism is an incredibly rare occurrence and normally with in the capabilities of security staff to deal with. You are making a very distasteful rhetoric out of a unique occurence.

You are also wrong to claim "every major sporting event" is screened.
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this event really moved the intrade market.. the Warner Brothers execs are ******** there pants over lost revenue.

http://www.intrade.com/v4/markets/co...tractId=760956
???


Please post again when you decide to make sense.

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this event really moved the intrade market.. the Warner Brothers execs are ******** there pants over lost revenue.

http://www.intrade.com/v4/markets/co...tractId=760956

It's not even noon here, and I stopped to buy tickets for the 5:45 showing a few minutes ago. I've never had to park further away from the theater. It sure hasn't stopped everyone from going to see it.
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There's something very sick about the mindset of the CTists who get excited by tragedy.
It really is sick...people like the OP live for moments like this so they can cry "CONSPIRACY!" in an attempt to look like they are the smartest person in the room and capable of deep insight that the rest of us sheeple lack.

The OP - and the rest of the crackpot CT community - do this EVERY SINGLE TIME there is a national news event. I can't think of one single event in the past 5 years which the CTers have NOT ascribed to some sort of conspiracy. They will even claim natural disasters are made by HAARP just so they can get a conspiracy angle in.

OP - your a disturbed individual. Seek help.
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There is a huge security presence at every airport (obviously) and every major sporting event requires bag screening with some metal detectors. The movie theater was the last vestige of a time in America where people were free of big brother while gathered in large public concentrations.

The 24 year old shooter James Holmes was a CIA patsy for a move to new legislation and public opinion to require broad security measures at cinemas around the country. This is a wind-fall for companies like Giuliani Partners that provide private security and comes at a time when the Obama administration needs a mass hiring event for thousands of new TSA screeners.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/03/bu...pagewanted=all
you are a great example of what paranoia and mental illnes can do to people.
i hope you are getting profesinal help.
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It was only a matter of time before someone tried to superglue their own agenda to this.

The cinema killer is just a slight footstep further down the line than your average conspiracy theorists, you know, the ones predicting the end times, calling for the sheeple to wake up, demanding people sit up and take notice.

Congrats.
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As expected, the internuts are wrapping themselves in an extra layer of foil and hunkering down in the basement. I've had a look at some of the nutjob forums, and they're all whipping them up to a frenzy with CIA/NWO/prophesy claims and multiple shooters.

Sometimes the internet is a sad place.
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Originally Posted by 000063 View Post
*twitch*

Only high-risk operators would carry around AP, and even people who own guns don't usually take them to a movie theatre. Unless you have trained, the natural and perfectly understandable responses are 1)run in terror, or b)cower in terror. "Jumping" at someone who's armed is contraindicated by just about every security professional in existence, unless one's life is under immediate threat, and it is not actually that easy to break someone's neck, especially if they're a crazed maniac fighting back.

Again, that is exactly what you are supposed to do. Do not engage armed men unless you have no other choice, or it is actually your job. Get yourselves and others to safety, as best as you can.

I'm not sure if I can even blame Hollywood for this.
Well Stallone or Shwartznegger or Willis would never have run, they'd have called his attention to themselves (ie "hey s***head, over here"), jumped him from 15 feet away, disarmed him and fought hand to hand for 10 minutes before killing him.
Those viewers with a juvenile outlook and perhaps lacking somewhat in IQ points may well believe that such a thing is possible and furthermore that anyone can accomplish such a feat.
Then again its not Hollywood's fault if people believe fiction.

When I read things like that, or for instance Rob Balsamo's account of how he would have saved flight 93 by disarming the hijackers, for a few moments I wish that these people are confronted with this situation. They will either do exactly what everyone else does and run/hide, or they will actually try to rush an armed man and simply be one of the causualties. Someone who unsuccessfully take on an armed man is probably going to die. If shot once and incapacitated they'd be facing an armed man who's focus is now on this would-be hero. Not a good scenario.

OTOH lots of people, guys mostly, do have hero fantasies, and sometimes a person actually has a chance, they are out of the sight of the attacker and armed with a club of some sort, and within striking range, and trained in hand to hand combat......... but that's rarer than blue moons.

What gets me is the idiots who call for everyone to be armed.

OK crowded theatre, a gun man rushes in and throw tear gas and starts shooting. First of all anyone with a whiff of the gass is not going to be able to see all that well through the tears and while choking/coughing. Even if there is no gas and let's say 10% of a crowd of 300 are packing their own weapons. That's 30 guns, 31 including the attacker. The attacker is shooting indiscrimanantly, are the heros?
However the real gun toters would have everyone at the theatre carrying. How many shots go off before everyone realizes that the original attacker is dead? How many would be heros get shot by other heros in a case of mistaken identity? I figure the death toll would not be much different than with no heros
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