Reincarnate DaVinci giving esoteric breast massages in Brisbane - Page 2

Sideroxylon · 14th March 2013, 05:04 AM

Originally Posted by Darkly Venus

However, we have recently been given published photographic evidence from a Sacred Esoteric Healing workshop manual of Serge with his hand on a young woman's genitals. The technique is called 'Deeper Femaleness' and it is said to be a 'healing' technique for 'rape' and sexual dysfunction.

The images have been submitted to the NSW Health Care Complaints Commission. I have also submitted a number of other complaints, but so far none have been acted upon. It appears the HCCC is disinclined to prohibit practitioners until someone comes forward saying they've been assaulted, or we produce a corpse.

I just had a look at the picture, which is very easy to find on your website, and the accompanying text is just horrible to contemplate - "great for cases of rape recovery." I just see "come and get abused all over again."

Darkly Venus · 14th March 2013, 06:19 AM

Thanks so much for the welcome, and yes I was worried you might switch off at the length and think I was one of THEM.

Unfortunately the big picture of this group is very serious and far reaching - now also in Europe, the UK, NZ and North America.

Originally Posted by Ellen Travis

Serge Benhayon's activities re EBM and other intimate massages are very familiar to me from other cults who use the same MO to groom and brainwash (for want of a better word) young women in preparation for a life of "sacred prostitution".

The typical strategy is to combine intrusive intimate massage as a form of healing to "burn bad karma", "awaken femininity", "activate chakras" and even to destroy invisible psychic worm infestations in the reproductive organs generated by past traumatic sexual experiences (yes really).

The indoctrination process is usually conducted by females in various "women's groups" that teach that women have become too identified with men in the modern world and lost touch with their femininity. The concept of "femininity" in these cults is typically based on the idea that women should be more "feminine" (translate as submissive / playful) and that once she has attained a proper feminine state, cleansed of bad karma, sluggish chakras and psychic worms she will be in a constant state of bliss (translate sexual excitement).

Once a woman is conditioned to accept these invasive "treatments" and deranged concepts about femininity she is considered "awakened" or "open" and thus knows to true meaning and purpose of her life - usually to save the world by performing "chakra activations" on men (I believe generally referred to as a "rub and tug" in Australia) and thus generating revenue for the cult in the process.

I suppose I am wondering whether you know whether any of the females in the cult work in the sex industry?

That's interesting, and I think I read about a cult in California (?) that encouraged 'flirty fishing' among its young women recruits.

RJ Lifton's definition of cults includes financial and/or sexual exploitation from above. Yes, UniMed's recruitment gateway is certainly through the women's health market with all kinds of New Age deceptions.

However, sex workers would be frowned upon in UM. UM is extremely puritanical and negative about sex, and Serge's schtick is to neuter sexual function rather than portray it as sacred. He thinks sex, and especially female sexual pleasure, is only acceptable if one is making Esoteric 'love', which is devoid of emotion (see the Esoteric Relationships post on the UMA blog - emotion is the cause of all disease). Women are taught that their husbands need to ask permission to touch their breasts, and I've had cult husbands tell me that if and when they were 'allowed' to make love to their partners, they were made to feel as if they'd violated their lover - even when there hadn't been problems in the past.

Part of the programming is to portray all men as sex fiends and abusers, particularly husbands and partners who ask why their wives personalities have changed and where the money is going. The response is invariably passive aggression, seeing the cult's ideal of 'femaleness' is gentle, nurturing, sexless, docile, inactive, non intellectual and non argumentative.

In other words, I'm out.

But at bottom, it is a commercial imperative. The cult specializes in breaking up relationships/marriages. They even have cult lawyers on hand to assist with divorce settlements and securing AVOs against emotional, cancer causing husbands. The proceeds from the settlements are often donated wholesale to the cult's questionable 'charity' or slowly siphoned via the ******** therapies and endless 'healing' workshops.

And it all begins with a self loving Esoteric Breast Massage practitioner gently massaging your hardened, objectified, loveless breasts and telling you your body is riddled with evil energy and men are pricks.

Darkly Venus · 14th March 2013, 06:22 AM

Thanks also Sideroxylon for posting the link to my blog. New Age blessings to you.

Ellen Travis · 14th March 2013, 06:38 AM

Originally Posted by Darkly Venus

That's interesting, and I think I read about a cult in California (?) that encouraged 'flirty fishing' among its young women recruits.

Ah the Children of God aka The Family International aka The family

They not only promoted and embraced "sacred prostitution" (FFing)
http://xfamily.org/index.php/Flirty_Fishing
but also the sexual abuse of children including toddlers
http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/b...let/index.html

Originally Posted by Darkly Venus

However, sex workers would be frowned upon in UM. UM is extremely puritanical and negative about sex, and Serge's schtick is to neuter sexual function rather than portray it as sacred. He thinks sex, and especially female sexual pleasure, is only acceptable if one is making Esoteric 'love', which is devoid of emotion (see the Esoteric Relationships post on the UMA blog - emotion is the cause of all disease). Women are taught that their husbands need to ask permission to touch their breasts, and I've had cult husbands tell me that if and when they were 'allowed' to make love to their partners, they were made to feel as if they'd violated their lover - even when there hadn't been problems in the past.

Part of the programming is to portray all men as sex fiends and abusers, particularly husbands and partners who ask why their wives personalities have changed and where the money is going. The response is invariably passive aggression, seeing the cult's ideal of 'femaleness' is gentle, nurturing, sexless, docile, inactive, non intellectual and non argumentative.

In other words, I'm out.

But at bottom, it is a commercial imperative. The cult specializes in breaking up relationships/marriages. They even have cult lawyers on hand to assist with divorce settlements and securing AVOs against emotional, cancer causing husbands. The proceeds from the settlements are often donated wholesale to the cult's questionable 'charity' or slowly siphoned via the ******** therapies and endless 'healing' workshops.

And it all begins with a self loving Esoteric Breast Massage practitioner gently massaging your hardened, objectified, loveless breasts and telling you your body is riddled with evil energy and men are pricks.

wow. How horrible. Thanks for the insight, I appreciate it. It is always interesting to learn about new cults and their activities.

poblob14 · 18th March 2013, 09:33 AM

Here's the tl;dr for the entire thread:

Originally Posted by adam warburton

Has belief in the effectiveness of any of the "modalities" Benhayon or others charge for providing or teaching been supported by any kind of independent, scientific testing?

To date, no, at least not if full.

Thanks to Darkly Venus, though, for filling in the gaps.

Darkly Venus · 23rd March 2013, 09:41 PM

If Esoteric Breast Massage wasn't disgusting enough, one of the most infuriating aspects is that the Universal Medicine cult has three women medical doctors directly promoting and endorsing EBM. The cult counts six doctors among its followers/apologists. Five of them are medical specialists and four of them are women, and if you want to see something nuts, google 'medicine and serge benhayon' for the cult's medical propaganda blog.

And try posting a sensible comment on it for fun. Don't put in too much effort, because it will vanish into the cyber, guaranteed.

I've just posted the last in my three part series on EBM on my universal medicine accountability wordpress blog. The final post is about the participation of the cult doctors - and how Australian regulator AHPRA won't do anything about it.

14th March 2013, 06:19 AM	#42
Darkly Venus New Blood Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 5	Thanks so much for the welcome, and yes I was worried you might switch off at the length and think I was one of THEM. Unfortunately the big picture of this group is very serious and far reaching - now also in Europe, the UK, NZ and North America. Originally Posted by Ellen Travis Serge Benhayon's activities re EBM and other intimate massages are very familiar to me from other cults who use the same MO to groom and brainwash (for want of a better word) young women in preparation for a life of "sacred prostitution". The typical strategy is to combine intrusive intimate massage as a form of healing to "burn bad karma", "awaken femininity", "activate chakras" and even to destroy invisible psychic worm infestations in the reproductive organs generated by past traumatic sexual experiences (yes really). The indoctrination process is usually conducted by females in various "women's groups" that teach that women have become too identified with men in the modern world and lost touch with their femininity. The concept of "femininity" in these cults is typically based on the idea that women should be more "feminine" (translate as submissive / playful) and that once she has attained a proper feminine state, cleansed of bad karma, sluggish chakras and psychic worms she will be in a constant state of bliss (translate sexual excitement). Once a woman is conditioned to accept these invasive "treatments" and deranged concepts about femininity she is considered "awakened" or "open" and thus knows to true meaning and purpose of her life - usually to save the world by performing "chakra activations" on men (I believe generally referred to as a "rub and tug" in Australia) and thus generating revenue for the cult in the process. I suppose I am wondering whether you know whether any of the females in the cult work in the sex industry? That's interesting, and I think I read about a cult in California (?) that encouraged 'flirty fishing' among its young women recruits. RJ Lifton's definition of cults includes financial and/or sexual exploitation from above. Yes, UniMed's recruitment gateway is certainly through the women's health market with all kinds of New Age deceptions. However, sex workers would be frowned upon in UM. UM is extremely puritanical and negative about sex, and Serge's schtick is to neuter sexual function rather than portray it as sacred. He thinks sex, and especially female sexual pleasure, is only acceptable if one is making Esoteric 'love', which is devoid of emotion (see the Esoteric Relationships post on the UMA blog - emotion is the cause of all disease). Women are taught that their husbands need to ask permission to touch their breasts, and I've had cult husbands tell me that if and when they were 'allowed' to make love to their partners, they were made to feel as if they'd violated their lover - even when there hadn't been problems in the past. Part of the programming is to portray all men as sex fiends and abusers, particularly husbands and partners who ask why their wives personalities have changed and where the money is going. The response is invariably passive aggression, seeing the cult's ideal of 'femaleness' is gentle, nurturing, sexless, docile, inactive, non intellectual and non argumentative. In other words, I'm out. But at bottom, it is a commercial imperative. The cult specializes in breaking up relationships/marriages. They even have cult lawyers on hand to assist with divorce settlements and securing AVOs against emotional, cancer causing husbands. The proceeds from the settlements are often donated wholesale to the cult's questionable 'charity' or slowly siphoned via the ******** therapies and endless 'healing' workshops. And it all begins with a self loving Esoteric Breast Massage practitioner gently massaging your hardened, objectified, loveless breasts and telling you your body is riddled with evil energy and men are pricks.
Darkly Venus New Blood Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 5

14th March 2013, 06:22 AM	#43
Darkly Venus New Blood Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 5	Thanks also Sideroxylon for posting the link to my blog. New Age blessings to you.
Darkly Venus New Blood Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 5

14th March 2013, 06:38 AM	#44
Ellen Travis Thinker Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 131	Originally Posted by Darkly Venus That's interesting, and I think I read about a cult in California (?) that encouraged 'flirty fishing' among its young women recruits. Ah the Children of God aka The Family International aka The family They not only promoted and embraced "sacred prostitution" (FFing) http://xfamily.org/index.php/Flirty_Fishing but also the sexual abuse of children including toddlers http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/b...let/index.html Originally Posted by Darkly Venus However, sex workers would be frowned upon in UM. UM is extremely puritanical and negative about sex, and Serge's schtick is to neuter sexual function rather than portray it as sacred. He thinks sex, and especially female sexual pleasure, is only acceptable if one is making Esoteric 'love', which is devoid of emotion (see the Esoteric Relationships post on the UMA blog - emotion is the cause of all disease). Women are taught that their husbands need to ask permission to touch their breasts, and I've had cult husbands tell me that if and when they were 'allowed' to make love to their partners, they were made to feel as if they'd violated their lover - even when there hadn't been problems in the past. Part of the programming is to portray all men as sex fiends and abusers, particularly husbands and partners who ask why their wives personalities have changed and where the money is going. The response is invariably passive aggression, seeing the cult's ideal of 'femaleness' is gentle, nurturing, sexless, docile, inactive, non intellectual and non argumentative. In other words, I'm out. But at bottom, it is a commercial imperative. The cult specializes in breaking up relationships/marriages. They even have cult lawyers on hand to assist with divorce settlements and securing AVOs against emotional, cancer causing husbands. The proceeds from the settlements are often donated wholesale to the cult's questionable 'charity' or slowly siphoned via the ******** therapies and endless 'healing' workshops. And it all begins with a self loving Esoteric Breast Massage practitioner gently massaging your hardened, objectified, loveless breasts and telling you your body is riddled with evil energy and men are pricks. wow. How horrible. Thanks for the insight, I appreciate it. It is always interesting to learn about new cults and their activities.
Ellen Travis Thinker Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 131

18th March 2013, 09:33 AM	#45
poblob14 Muse Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 623	Here's the tl;dr for the entire thread: Originally Posted by adam warburton Has belief in the effectiveness of any of the "modalities" Benhayon or others charge for providing or teaching been supported by any kind of independent, scientific testing? To date, no, at least not if full. Thanks to Darkly Venus, though, for filling in the gaps.
poblob14 Muse Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 623

23rd March 2013, 09:41 PM	#46
Darkly Venus New Blood Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 5	If Esoteric Breast Massage wasn't disgusting enough, one of the most infuriating aspects is that the Universal Medicine cult has three women medical doctors directly promoting and endorsing EBM. The cult counts six doctors among its followers/apologists. Five of them are medical specialists and four of them are women, and if you want to see something nuts, google 'medicine and serge benhayon' for the cult's medical propaganda blog. And try posting a sensible comment on it for fun. Don't put in too much effort, because it will vanish into the cyber, guaranteed. I've just posted the last in my three part series on EBM on my universal medicine accountability wordpress blog. The final post is about the participation of the cult doctors - and how Australian regulator AHPRA won't do anything about it.
Darkly Venus New Blood Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 5

14th March 2013, 05:04 AM	#41
Sideroxylon Featherless biped Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Aporia Posts: 26,425	Originally Posted by Darkly Venus However, we have recently been given published photographic evidence from a Sacred Esoteric Healing workshop manual of Serge with his hand on a young woman's genitals. The technique is called 'Deeper Femaleness' and it is said to be a 'healing' technique for 'rape' and sexual dysfunction. The images have been submitted to the NSW Health Care Complaints Commission. I have also submitted a number of other complaints, but so far none have been acted upon. It appears the HCCC is disinclined to prohibit practitioners until someone comes forward saying they've been assaulted, or we produce a corpse. I just had a look at the picture, which is very easy to find on your website, and the accompanying text is just horrible to contemplate - "great for cases of rape recovery." I just see "come and get abused all over again."