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Old 13th November 2012, 08:57 PM   #1
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Question Denver UFO

Here's another interesting story on CNN: http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t3#...in-denver.kdvr
Seems to be on a schedule-CNN got it on their cameras as well.
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Old 13th November 2012, 09:02 PM   #2
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Old 13th November 2012, 09:06 PM   #3
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looks like bugs to me....

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Old 13th November 2012, 09:07 PM   #4
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wait a minute - the news says the objects are not visible to the naked eye, yet the filmer says they're there several times a week.

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Old 13th November 2012, 09:07 PM   #5
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How stupid can they get?
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2 prints, same midtarsal crock..., I mean break?
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Old 13th November 2012, 09:08 PM   #6
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Go to the neighborhood where the thing is observed to "land"... at a very rate of speed no less.
And watch the skies!
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Old 13th November 2012, 09:13 PM   #7
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Old 13th November 2012, 09:30 PM   #8
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Big things can't move that fast at the distance they appear to be, in the atmosphere.
Therefore, they're small things, close.
Put up a screen some distance away in the direction they're seen.
If they go behind it, they're farther away.
Bring some bug spray and check for bugs in the area near the camera(s).
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Old 14th November 2012, 04:53 AM   #9
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They are filming in what appears to be a freshly ploughed field.

Any second rate farm hand could tell you what is happening here; they are bugs and beetles, attracted by the soil disturbance.

Geez some people are so easily sucked-in!!
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Old 14th November 2012, 05:59 AM   #10
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One way to cure this guy of his belief is to get a high speed camera and place it next to his camera. You will then see clearly what is darting around in the frame.
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2 prints, same midtarsal crock..., I mean break?
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Old 14th November 2012, 05:04 PM   #11
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Lightbulb Golden opportunity for NICAP

Originally Posted by LTC8K6 View Post
One way to cure this guy of his belief is to get a high speed camera and place it next to his camera. You will then see clearly what is darting around in the frame.
Good idea,especially if it keeps to a schedule.
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Old 14th November 2012, 05:23 PM   #12
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Anyone contacted that Denver station about this? I couldn't see any link with the videos.
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Old 14th November 2012, 05:27 PM   #13
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It was a little fuzzy and out of focus, are you sure it wasn't Bigfoot?
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Old 14th November 2012, 05:34 PM   #14
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The fact that you can go to this spot and capture it while nobody else sees it from miles away suggests these objects are a LOT smaller and closer to the camera than some might make them out to be. This would be consistent with bugs or small particles of some sort drifting through the air.
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Old 14th November 2012, 05:42 PM   #15
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Anyone contacted that Denver station about this? I couldn't see any link with the videos.
I just sent them an email asking if they could use a high speed video camera on the object.It is Fox affiliate KDVR
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Old 14th November 2012, 05:47 PM   #16
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It was a little fuzzy and out of focus, are you sure it wasn't Bigfoot?
first of all google up rods, or flying rods, this is the modern day version of this. But more to the point:

If you watch the video from the news station, when it backlights the original filmer agains his video on a big dscreen, take a look at that arm, thats the hairiest human arm i've ever seen. Clearly it's bigfoot, thats why he asked not to be named!

so what we have here is a Bigfoot trying to divert attention from his imminent discovery, by claiming to see flying saucers - So all the woo busters focus on UFO's instead of the actual story at hand!

brilliant plan!
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Old 15th November 2012, 07:19 AM   #17
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Anyone contacted that Denver station about this? I couldn't see any link with the videos.
You can see the video at the denver station here:

http://kdvr.com/2012/11/08/mile-high...y-over-denver/

With many accompanying comments. The "investigative" reporter, Heidi Hemmat, has her bio and contact at: http://kdvr.com/author/kdvrheidihemmat/

From what I can find (and I am not sure of this), the executive producer appears to be Hayley Herst.
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Old 15th November 2012, 08:31 AM   #18
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I like how they brought in a aviation expert but not a video or insect expert. They just assumed it was some sort of craft. There are two obvious experiments.

1. (already mentioned) Set up a screen 20 feet out.

2. Film from the mountains on the other side of town at the same time.
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Old 15th November 2012, 08:50 AM   #19
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I like how they brought in a aviation expert but not a video or insect expert. They just assumed it was some sort of craft. There are two obvious experiments.

1. (already mentioned) Set up a screen 20 feet out.

2. Film from the mountains on the other side of town at the same time.
3 Set up a duplicate camera 50 feet away.
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3 Set up a duplicate camera 50 feet away.
Yep. How can someone be a ufo investigator and not understand something as simple as triangulation?
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Old 15th November 2012, 10:26 AM   #21
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Can people really be this stupid? How do they get dressed in the morning, drive a car? Honestly beggars belief.
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Old 15th November 2012, 10:27 AM   #22
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3 Set up a duplicate camera 50 feet away.
And, as has been mentioned:

4. Set up a high-def, slow-mo camera.

The thing is, though...even on that footage, they look like insects. I mean, they already do. So I'm not entirely sure why showing them to be insects more clearly would be necessary.
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Of course when a second camera does not record the UFO's they will simply say there is something magical about the original spot that allows the UFO's to be filmed.
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Old 15th November 2012, 10:55 AM   #24
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Originally Posted by I Ratant View Post
Big things can't move that fast at the distance they appear to be, in the atmosphere.
Therefore, they're small things, close.
Put up a screen some distance away in the direction they're seen.
If they go behind it, they're farther away.
Bring some bug spray and check for bugs in the area near the camera(s).
I'm reminded of somthing from one of the best comedy programs ever...

Father Ted (holding a model cow) No, Dougal. these are small, and those are far away...
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Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim View Post
And, as has been mentioned:

4. Set up a high-def, slow-mo camera.

The thing is, though...even on that footage, they look like insects. I mean, they already do. So I'm not entirely sure why showing them to be insects more clearly would be necessary.
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The ufos will say "Yes, on THAT day, it was bugs, but on all the others.....".
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The thing is, though...even on that footage, they look like insects. I mean, they already do. So I'm not entirely sure why showing them to be insects more clearly would be necessary.
Yeah. It's a reasonably good recording on its own. They are clearly and obviously insects. I doubt it could have been more obvious even for the person recording it, and they could have just walked outside and been hit in the head by some of those bugs.
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Did anyone suggest insects yet?

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#1 Peyton Manning throwing footballs around, come on the guy still has a rocket for an arm....

#2 Beetles... "Go home Beetles, you is drunk ! "

(for the record, on at least one of them it appeared you could see the wings buzzing)
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Of course when a second camera does not record the UFO's they will simply say there is something magical about the original spot that allows the UFO's to be filmed.
Two cameras side by side would be just as effective in ruling out bugs.
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The ufos should ask the BFers for assistance in setting up two cameras selectively out of focus at the critical distance, and the same amount of underexposure.
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Two cameras side by side would be just as effective in ruling out bugs.
I am assuming these bugs could be as far away as around 20 feet depending on the focus of the camera. I understand a digital video camera pointed at the sky will focus to infinity and anything small passing quickly through the frame within 20 feet will be out of focus.

Placing the camera side by side may actual result in confirming the "UFO" is there for some people as they may pick up the same bug 20 feet out. Best to just move down the road a bit IMO.

I am not a digital video expert so feel free to re-educate me on the subject.
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Yeah, but at 20 feet, there would be enough parallax against the background to see that it is 20 feet away.
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Yeah, but at 20 feet, there would be enough parallax against the background to see that it is 20 feet away.
I was going to say that would work unless the bugs were very small and very close but realized at that size and distance the likely hood of the bug crossing both FOV is very very small.

Very well then, side by side it is.
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Quick back of the envelope math says that with 2 cameras 6 inches apart, and a background 10 miles away, an object 20 feet away will have a quarter mile difference in it's position on the background in the two images.
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Oh great -- bug size UFOs. Bad enough they do that probe thing on humans; now they're small enough to fly up there and get a first-hand look for themselves.
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Can people really be this stupid? How do they get dressed in the morning, drive a car? Honestly beggars belief.
I think some people in Colorado are taking full advantage of the Legal Marijuana Laws passed last week......
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Easiest way to debunk this is to stand off camera with a can of Raid and see if your "lazer death ray" makes all of these horrible alien craft fall from the sky!

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This actually made the national news last night.....And not a skeptical word from the NBC crew....
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This actually made the national news last night.....And not a skeptical word from the NBC crew....
How slow a news day does it have to be to have "man films blurry insects in place where you'd expect to find insects" be a news story?
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