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Old 27th February 2013, 03:09 AM   #241
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Originally Posted by BazBear View Post
I was 4 1/2, and I still think NASA was taking a big chance sending Neil and Buzz there unarmed!
[CT]You still think the LM was unarmed. [/CT]
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Old 27th February 2013, 03:17 AM   #242
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Old 27th February 2013, 10:11 AM   #243
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Originally Posted by BazBear View Post
I was 4 1/2, and I still think NASA was taking a big chance sending Neil and Buzz there unarmed!
And risk them shooting a hole in the spacecraft? There was the running joke, I think involving Pete Conrad, saying that upon arriving on the lunar surface he should scream and cut his mike.

Conversely the Soviet cosmonauts were armed, not because of what they might encounter in space but because of what they might encounter upon landing in a possibly remote area of the Soviet Union. Bears, wolves, etc.
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Old 27th February 2013, 10:25 AM   #244
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Just to prove to those that the human race is capable of things:

voyager 1 and 2 mission status:

http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/...orts/index.htm
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Old 27th February 2013, 10:46 AM   #245
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Originally Posted by JayUtah View Post
And risk them shooting a hole in the spacecraft? There was the running joke, I think involving Pete Conrad, saying that upon arriving on the lunar surface he should scream and cut his mike.

Conversely the Soviet cosmonauts were armed, not because of what they might encounter in space but because of what they might encounter upon landing in a possibly remote area of the Soviet Union. Bears, wolves, etc.
That's right. I had forgotten that.
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Old 27th February 2013, 01:50 PM   #246
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Originally Posted by Jack by the hedge View Post
[CT]You still think the LM was unarmed. [/CT]
Okay, they had a knife in survival rucksack no. 1, so they weren't totally unarmed.
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Old 27th February 2013, 02:10 PM   #247
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Araine 5 launch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN1HOsnOYtU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EosAev9EJpI

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Old 27th February 2013, 02:32 PM   #248
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Originally Posted by indomitablespirit View Post
Don't bluff me. What kind of fool do you take me for? Why don't you tell us all how hot or cold it was inside the LM on the occasion of the Apollo 11 stay on the moon and likewise please tell us the temperature inside the LM during the Apollo 15 stay.
It is called math, science, physics. Do moon landing deniers take math, science and physics?

Sun angle. The missions on the moon were planned so the life support systems could keep the astronauts alive. The temperature on the moon can be predicted, using math and science. Simple stuff, guess moon landing deniers can't do the science part. Apollo 11, cold, Apollo 15 hot; you can take the sun angle and calculate the temperature. Can you compared the design of the life support systems?

I feel cool now, I estimate the temperature at 60F; I am correct. A human thermometer.
What does temperature have to do with moon landing deniers failed claims?
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Old 27th February 2013, 02:37 PM   #249
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Originally Posted by BazBear View Post
Okay, they had a knife in survival rucksack no. 1, so they weren't totally unarmed.
But what if the bears and wolves had guns?
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Old 27th February 2013, 02:50 PM   #250
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Originally Posted by JayUtah View Post
But what if the bears and wolves had guns?

No one has the right to arm bears.
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Old 27th February 2013, 03:17 PM   #251
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Originally Posted by TheRedWorm View Post
No one has the right to arm bears.
True, but no one needs to! They got 'dem big nasty claws and teethes! But they are not one trick ponies...err...bruins. Some even clean up quite nicely; my avatar shows a good example of .
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Old 27th February 2013, 05:03 PM   #252
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Originally Posted by BazBear View Post
True, but no one needs to! They got 'dem big nasty claws and teethes! But they are not one trick ponies...err...bruins. Some even clean up quite nicely; my avatar shows a good example of .

Wojtek, is that you?
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Old 27th February 2013, 07:18 PM   #253
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Can't be.

Unless he was really Polish-Ed up for the photo.
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Old 28th February 2013, 03:17 AM   #254
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Originally Posted by BazBear View Post
Some even clean up quite nicely...
I'm relieved to hear it. One does hear such tales of what they do in the woods.
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Originally Posted by Jack by the hedge View Post
I'm relieved to hear it. One does hear such tales of what they do in the woods.
That's all NRA propaganda.
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Does a bear poop in a space capsule in the woods?
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Old 28th February 2013, 07:11 AM   #257
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Does a bear poop in a space capsule in the woods?
Only if a cosmonaut points a gun at it.
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Old 28th February 2013, 07:46 AM   #258
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Only if a cosmonaut points a gun at it.
Hey, if I were a bear, I wouldn't want to mess around with someone who just fell from outer space and lived to tell about it.
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Hey, if I were a bear, I wouldn't want to mess around with someone who just fell from outer space and lived to tell about it.
Well, bears have been known to survive supersonic ejection from B-58 Hustlers... they might not be too impressed.
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Well, bears have been known to survive supersonic ejection from B-58 Hustlers... they might not be too impressed.

How did they get the bears into the ejection seats/supersonic jets?

Notice how I don't ask why they were ejecting the bears? After cramming a bear into one of those seats, launching the massive pissed-off critter out of the plane seems perfectly sensible. Landing with it would be insane.
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How did they get the bears into the ejection seats/supersonic jets?
Sedation.

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Notice how I don't ask why they were ejecting the bears? After cramming a bear into one of those seats, launching the massive pissed-off critter out of the plane seems perfectly sensible. Landing with it would be insane.
The B-58 used an ejection capsule that closed around the pilot (or bear, as the case may be).
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So was the plan to fill up the Russian steppes with angry ejected bears thereby halting the Soviet space program by making landings too dangerous for their astronauts?
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So was the plan to fill up the Russian steppes with angry ejected bears thereby halting the Soviet space program by making landings too dangerous for their astronauts?
Rather, I think the program was canceled once they realized that Russian astronauts wouldn't see anything unusual or alarming about angry bears.

Coal to Newcastle and all that.

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No one has the right to arm bears.
Not in Soviet Russia. In the US, it's one of our most cherished constitutional rights.
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who kept the thermometer?
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You know, I'm not sure, but I think it's just barely possible that they had more than one.
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Russia sent the Bears back, the RAF used to intercept them over the North Sea.
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Not in Soviet Russia. In the US, it's one of our most cherished constitutional rights.
I thought it was the right to wear muscle t shirts.
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A Facebook friend and I have been trying to understand if this video is an elaborate joke or not as it seems to be 40 minutes of a guy highlighting jpeg artefacts with Photoshop filters and saying "OMG Alienz!". Is this usual behaviour for Moonbats?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vH9aP-MNwbg

Quick tip of the hat to JayUtah and co for teaching me so much about the Apollo program. Cheers guys!
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Unfortunately, it seems to be all too frequent (and not just in space images). The CTers don't understand image compression, image artefacts (either in general or JPEG in particular), or any sort of photogrammetry. The most notorious example of this was the late Jack White, who:
  • Couldn't tell which way the LM was facing in photographs
  • When testifying to the Warren Commision (JFK assassination) the following exchange occurred:
    Originally Posted by Warren Commission
    Mr. GOLDSMITH. Mr. White, answer my question. Did you compute photogrammetrically----

    Mr. WHITE. What is "photogrammetrically"? Describe to me what "photogrammetrically" is.

    Mr. GOLDSMITH. I just have one more question Mr. White. Do you know what photogrammetry is?

    Mr. WHITE. No.
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Originally Posted by Manger Douse View Post
A Facebook friend and I have been trying to understand if this video is an elaborate joke or not as it seems to be 40 minutes of a guy highlighting jpeg artefacts with Photoshop filters and saying "OMG Alienz!". Is this usual behaviour for Moonbats?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vH9aP-MNwbg

Quick tip of the hat to JayUtah and co for teaching me so much about the Apollo program. Cheers guys!

In case you're unfamiliar, here's a link to Jay's website.
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The Jack White "photogrammetry" incident reliably gets a facepalm from me. Not only did he fail to recognize one term for the field he was claiming expertise in...in a Congressional hearing...he couldn't even infer the meaning of the term from its parts.

Of course, his virtually nonexistent spatial and visual reasoning skills reliably produced similar reactions...
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On the other hand, it's nice to know that if you draw a crocodile on the moon, it looks like a crocodile.
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A Facebook friend and I have been trying to understand if this video is an elaborate joke or not as it seems to be 40 minutes of a guy highlighting jpeg artefacts with Photoshop filters and saying "OMG Alienz!". Is this usual behaviour for Moonbats?
Unfortunately yes.
It also seemed to be an excellent example of Pareidolia.

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Quick tip of the hat to JayUtah and co for teaching me so much about the Apollo program. Cheers guys!
Absolutely.
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Unfortunately, it seems to be all too frequent (and not just in space images). The CTers don't understand image compression, image artefacts (either in general or JPEG in particular), or any sort of photogrammetry. The most notorious example of this was the late Jack White, who:
  • Couldn't tell which way the LM was facing in photographs
  • When testifying to the Warren Commision (JFK assassination) the following exchange occurred:
and more.
Further, there are a couple of later parts of his testimony that show up why White made so many false assumptions as regards shadow, parallax and perspective effects the Apollo photographic record, and why HB's continue to call that record into question.

Quote:
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GOLDSMITH. Mr. White, you have made reference to several points in these photographs that suggest that the body of Oswald is not consistent in the various photographs in light of the head size; is that correct?
WHITE. Yes.
GOLDSMITH. To what extent, if any, did you compute photogrammetrically the effect of an object's tilt on its apparent length in the photograph?
WHITE. As I said, I am not a scientist. I don't indulge in that sort of thing.
GOLDSMITH. Mr. White, I just have one question.
WHITE. All right.
GOLDSMITH. When you did this study, did you compute photogrammetrically the effect of tilt on the way that the length of an object appears in a photograph?
WHITE. I conducted a study by photographing a yardstick from three different (angles)
Therein lies one of his (and other CTers/HB's) biggest mistakes; the failure to understand the fact that a photograph is a two-dimensional representation of a three dimensional reality, and the failure to realise the implications of this fact.

This is a simplified explanation of how this works

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/photog.htm

Here is a photo of an ordinary car park.



You know that the white lines are all the same length and are parallel to each other, but that is not how it appears in the photo. This is due to perspective, and without any information about the camera and lens, or its distance and elevation from any given point in the scene, you cannot determine how long the lines are, or whether or not they are actually parallel

This aspect of 3D to 2D representation will be familiar to most sports fans.



Grass advertising signage in stadiums is deliberately distorted remove the perspective. The actual logo (left) is painted on the grass in a distorted fashion as viewed from directly overhead (centre) so that from the point of view of the main stadium TV camera (right) it appears in the same proportions as the actual logo.

This graphically illustrates how easily the eye and brain are fooled with regard to perspective. You cannot analyse a photograph by simply laying a ruler on it and taking measurements, as Jack White did so often.

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Originally Posted by grmcdorman View Post
Unfortunately, it seems to be all too frequent (and not just in space images). The CTers don't understand image compression, image artefacts (either in general or JPEG in particular), or any sort of photogrammetry. The most notorious example of this was the late Jack White, who:
  • Couldn't tell which way the LM was facing in photographs
  • When testifying to the Warren Commision (JFK assassination) the following exchange occurred:
and more.
Jack White also did the "use random photoshop filters on an already compressed jpeg and think you've found something" trick. One of his "studies" had him "finding" a tow truck in the background of an Apollo photo.

There are a few on GLP that do this quite often as well. For a while there was a regular that claimed the Moon had to be far closer than "NASA" said (even though it was pointed out that ANYONE can figure out the distance with geometry) because they had take pictures with a dinky telescope and "saw" people walking on the surface. A few years back there was a regular (that also claimed to be a grade school teacher ) that ran pictures of people through various filters and claimed they were reptiles.
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J... dinky telescope and "saw" people walking on the surface. A few years back there was a regular (that also claimed to be a grade school teacher ) that ran pictures of people through various filters and claimed they were reptiles.

I find these two "facts" somewhat disturbing!!
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I find these two "facts" somewhat disturbing!!
You and me both. Would you believe that I was the one jumped on when I dared to call her out on her pareidolia? That is the madness that is GLP.
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I think I caught an episode of CSI or somesuch in which it looked like a man suspected his neighbor of being one of the sekret reptilian overlord shape-changers and shot her.

This was before I used the DTV transition as an excuse to chuck the boob tube for good.
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Originally Posted by nomuse View Post
I think I caught an episode of CSI or somesuch in which it looked like a man suspected his neighbor of being one of the sekret reptilian overlord shape-changers and shot her.

This was before I used the DTV transition as an excuse to chuck the boob tube for good.

Season 7 Episiode 22 "Leapin' Lizards"


The suicide of a farmer whose farm was raided by SWAT and a woman who was murdered and her head stuffed and mounted on a wall leads the crime lab to a form of conspiracy theorism that some people are actually reptiles in disguise.

I think it was one of those "pisstake" episodes
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Apollo F-1 Engines found/recovered from ocean floor

"About a year ago, billionaire Jeff Bezos went to NASA with plans to recover some of the F-1 engines that helped power Apollo astronauts beyond Earth orbit in the late 1960s and early 1970s."

http://www.edn.com/electrical-engine...om-ocean-floor

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