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Old 2nd March 2013, 06:51 AM   #1
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The Business Plot Conspiracy

Some on this forum believe the Business Plot was real. I invite them to come forward and defend this conspiracy theory.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot
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Old 2nd March 2013, 03:56 PM   #2
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Personally I'd prefer it if threads begin with a summary of what the **** they are talking about
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There's two possibilities:

1) MaGZ honestly believes the Business Plot never happened (unlikely)
2) MaGZ is making some sort of vague and sarcastic political statement to set up his real argument (most likely)
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Old 2nd March 2013, 04:23 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by jaydeehess View Post
Personally I'd prefer it if threads begin with a summary of what the **** they are talking about
Same here. No use clicking on silly Wikipedia links. Perhaps big business is conspiring to employ people?
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Old 2nd March 2013, 04:25 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by FrederickEason View Post
2) MaGZ is making some sort of vague and sarcastic political statement to set up his real argument (most likely)
Involving evil Jooz, no doubt. A one trick pony.
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Old 2nd March 2013, 05:06 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by dafydd View Post
Same here. No use clicking on silly Wikipedia links. Perhaps big business is conspiring to employ people?
At least it's not Metapedia for once.
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Old 2nd March 2013, 05:13 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by uke2se View Post
At least it's not Metapedia for once.
Is there a Stormfrontapedia?
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Originally Posted by dafydd View Post
Is there a Stormfrontapedia?
Yes. Metapedia.
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Old 3rd March 2013, 10:08 AM   #10
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Originally Posted by MaGZ View Post
Some on this forum believe the Business Plot was real. I invite them to come forward and defend this conspiracy theory.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot
I never looked into it. What is your position? I'll go with the opposite position. Then I'm pretty much guaranteed to be right.
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looks real to me

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looks real to me
If it was real then why weren’t anyone brought to trial for sedition?
Sedition trials were common in the 1930s and 1940s.
List of sedition trials in America
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/List_of...als_in_America
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Originally Posted by MaGZ View Post
If it was real then why weren’t anyone brought to trial for sedition?
Sedition trials were common in the 1930s and 1940s.
List of sedition trials in America
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/List_of...als_in_America
Go ask them.
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Old 3rd March 2013, 11:37 AM   #14
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Originally Posted by MaGZ View Post
If it was real then why weren’t anyone brought to trial for sedition?
Sedition trials were common in the 1930s and 1940s.
List of sedition trials in America
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/List_of...als_in_America
Is that the sum total of your evidence that it was not real?

Unfortunately all too often when such high profile scandals do occur they were dealt with as quickly and quietly as possible, powerful people are forced to 'resign' rather than get fired and/or tried because that is less embarrassing to the gov't.

In similar fashion more recently we have the 'too big to fail' and the resultant no trails for fraud against anyone in the financial industry.
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Old 3rd March 2013, 12:21 PM   #15
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It appears to have been real but ineptly organized, probably just swept under the rug to avoid embarrassment. And since everyone involved is long since dead its a bit late to do anything about it now...
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Old 3rd March 2013, 12:23 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by MaGZ View Post
If it was real then why weren’t anyone brought to trial for sedition?
Sedition trials were common in the 1930s and 1940s.
List of sedition trials in America
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/List_of...als_in_America
And yet your own link has none in the 1930s when you say they were common.
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Originally Posted by Garrison View Post
And yet your own link has none in the 1930s when you say they were common.
Why do these people never read the links before they post them?
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There was at least one sedition case in the 30s, against Pedro Albizu CamposWP, a Puerto Rican chap charged with attempting to overthrow the United States' control of Puerto Rico.

I'm unfamiliar with any other such cases.
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Originally Posted by dafydd View Post
Why do these people never read the links before they post them?


He's stupid enough to be a Nazi. Do you really need any more information than that?
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Originally Posted by MaGZ View Post
If it was real then why weren’t anyone brought to trial for sedition?
Sedition trials were common in the 1930s and 1940s.
List of sedition trials in America
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/List_of...als_in_America
Ah, there's the metapedia-link.
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Why do these people never read the links before they post them?
Apparently Googlefishing only works in shallow waters.
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As it turns out, I know quite a bit about the Business Plot. So what exactly is it that the Holocaust denying troll is caliming? Is it just that he knows how to use the Great Wiki?
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Old 4th March 2013, 12:14 AM   #23
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As it turns out, I know quite a bit about the Business Plot. So what exactly is it that the Holocaust denying troll is caliming? Is it just that he knows how to use the Great Wiki?
He's claiming the Business Plot never happened because nobody involved was charged with sedition.
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Originally Posted by FrederickEason View Post
He's claiming the Business Plot never happened because nobody involved was charged with sedition.


Well, he's implying that, but I'm pretty sure that this is part of what he considers to be a clever ruse to catch us doing ... something.
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Old 4th March 2013, 07:07 AM   #25
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Originally Posted by FrederickEason View Post
He's claiming the Business Plot never happened because nobody involved was charged with sedition.
I know he says dumb things, but that's too dumb to believe anyone would really say. Could the OP clarify this. I know a great deal about the events of the Business Plot and would be happy to clarify any misconceptions that it's somehow related to conspiracy theory, Holocaust denial or 9/11 Truth.
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What always bugged me is why would the conspirators try to recruit the outspoken antifascist Butler of all people as their would-be dictator?
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I'll play. Of course it happened. The mainstream media of the day dismissed it. Thus, it had to be real.
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What always bugged me is why would the conspirators try to recruit the outspoken antifascist Butler of all people as their would-be dictator?
I think he was far more outspoken after the plot than before. Beforehand he was a popular Marine officer. But yeah, his politics, while not as outspoken as they were after 1933, were not hidden either...
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Well, he's implying that, but I'm pretty sure that this is part of what he considers to be a clever ruse to catch us doing ... something.
Yeah, I imagine that this is something along the lines of "Aha, you believe that there was this big bad conspiracy, so therefore you must believe that there is also this other one!"
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"The Business Plot was an alleged political conspiracy in 1933."


Who wants to remove the word "alleged" from the opening sentence of the Wiki article?
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Originally Posted by MaGZ View Post
"The Business Plot was an alleged political conspiracy in 1933."


Who wants to remove the word "alleged" from the opening sentence of the Wiki article?
Do you have a point?
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Originally Posted by Halcyon Dayz View Post
What always bugged me is why would the conspirators try to recruit the outspoken antifascist Butler of all people as their would-be dictator?
Originally Posted by Myron Proudfoot View Post
I think he was far more outspoken after the plot than before. Beforehand he was a popular Marine officer. But yeah, his politics, while not as outspoken as they were after 1933, were not hidden either...
And also included Hugh Johnson, former head of the NRA, the one New Dealer most despised by business.

Not to mention that the committee member who was chairing the session was the man who really invented the tricks Tailgunner Joe went on to use so viciously. He wasn't an NKVD agent then, but they would have Congressman Samuel Dickstein's number when they were to give him the code name CROOK.

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What always bugged me is why would the conspirators try to recruit the outspoken antifascist Butler of all people as their would-be dictator?

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Originally Posted by MaGZ View Post
"The Business Plot was an alleged political conspiracy in 1933."


Who wants to remove the word "alleged" from the opening sentence of the Wiki article?
"The Business Plot was a political conspiracy in 1933."

There. Got rid of that pesky adjective for you. Now that I've taken care of that, I guess you can get to whatever point you were trying to make; assuming you have a point to make.
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Originally Posted by MaGZ View Post
"The Business Plot was an alleged political conspiracy in 1933."


Who wants to remove the word "alleged" from the opening sentence of the Wiki article?
Do you mean the 'plot' was alleged to happen? Like OJ was alleged to have killed his wife but really didn't? I would like to help. Can you type more than one sentence? Is your problem a learning disability? Are you having trouble typing? Or is this a serious case of Trolitis and you are just being a jerk?
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Originally Posted by Scott Sommers View Post
Or is this a serious case of Trolitis and you are just being a jerk?


I'd go with that option.
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I'd go with that option.
Let's give him the benefit of the doubt. He may have a porn addiction and is simply recovering from a sprained hand. He may have shot himself in the head with a nail gun and not yet recovered. There are many other possibilities, so give him some time to answer. On the off chance that he's disabled by some traumatic accident, and not just acting like a drugged-up fool, let's give him a few more pages of humorous 2 sentence jokes about his OP.
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I'd go with that option.
As would I.
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Originally Posted by MaGZ View Post
"The Business Plot was an alleged political conspiracy in 1933."


Who wants to remove the word "alleged" from the opening sentence of the Wiki article?
You are correct, no court confirmed by conviction therefore alledged.

I do note though that this strawman is all you managed to respond to thus far
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