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I'm listening to a man promote his documentary on Richard Bacon's radio programme. He's saying that Uri Geller absolutely has powers. Richard Bacon is fighting a noble rearguard action.

In any case, the documentary is about Geller's activities as a psychic spy. While I believe that he may have been evaluated and may have been able to pull the wool over people's eyes, the assertion that he is still doing is probably a step too far.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b037k0c5

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...-a-mossad-and-cia-agent-revealed-8659271.html

Geller is excellent at self-promotion.
 
Any chance that the Russians will take this seriously and deal with him?
You can never be too careful.
 
The man who made the documentary was evasive when Richard Bacon repeatedly asked him whether he believed that Uri Geller had psychic powers. While the film-maker said that he was not "wedded to the idea that Uri Geller had these powers" be then followed this up with some anecdotes including one where he took Geller at short notice to a spiffy restaurant at short notice and Geller was able bend cutlery without touching it, the film-maker was clearly impressed by this parlour trick (he even gave Randi a name-check in a negative way as someone who has made a good living out of trying to debunk Geller). Of course this could all just be part of promoting the show but to me it sounded as if the film-maker had drunk at least some of the Koolaid.
 
Recently I've been looking through the declassified documents from the US government remote viewing program. What's interesting is that after the CIA ended their initial project in 1974, the OTS decided to continue research into psi, but with the proviso that Uri Geller must not be involved.
 
Oh dear...:rolleyes:

The Secret Life of Uri Geller, is to be broadcast on BBC2 on the 21 July @ 9pm.

Documentary exploring Uri Geller’s covert life as a ‘psychic spy’, working without recognition for nearly 30 years for military and intelligence agencies on three continents.
 
Recently I've been looking through the declassified documents from the US government remote viewing program. What's interesting is that after the CIA ended their initial project in 1974, the OTS decided to continue research into psi, but with the proviso that Uri Geller must not be involved.

What is the OTS?

What have you learned from reading those documents?

~~ Paul
 
The secret life of Uri Geller (BBC documentary)

On BBC2 in the UK right now. Anyone else watching this? Seems like really bad journalism so far. Billed as "documentary exploring Uri Geller's life as a psychic spy" Its being presented in a totally uncritical manner basically giving the impression that Geller's parlour tricks were genuine psychic abilities.
 
On BBC2 in the UK right now. Anyone else watching this? Seems like really bad journalism so far. Billed as "documentary exploring Uri Geller's life as a psychic spy" Its being presented in a totally uncritical manner basically giving the impression that Geller's parlour tricks were genuine psychic abilities.

Just turned it off.... after about 15 minutes or so.

Seemed to be a fluff piece promoting Geller under the guise of a documentary.

At least Geller has the good grace to more or less admit he's full of crap by starting the thing with a quote about how he was really good when he was a kid at making **** up and that started his career.
 
He has just told us that some sources say he knocked out radar and radio systems so that the Entebe raid could get in and out un detected.
Of course he won't confirm the stories that he says some people are telling (wink, wink)

He also says he was a special agent for the Mexican President.
 
He is careful to keep saying he can't talk about the things he did for the CIA or Mossad.
We get a bunch og taling heads to make the vague claims.
 
Back to Spoon Bending again. For Sentaros on Capitol Hill now in a special secret room
 
OK he can't tell us anything about any of the Secret Projects he worked on.
 
Some talking head claims that the CIA Psychic Experiments were ended because one of the senior scientists was an evangelical christian and disagreed with it even though it works.

But, he hints that it is still going on as a secret 'Black' project.
Uri is still working secretly for them in Korea and Iraq but he can't tell us about it.
 
I found a review of the program

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/uri-geller-psychic-spy-used-2063744
"Uri Geller the psychic spy: I used secret mind tricks on Russians to stop nuclear war"


What a **** !
Did he tell the Western forces where Bin Laden was? NO
Did he help detect Afghan IEDs in an effort to reduce the 1100 deaths from roadside bombs? NO

Instead he uses his "magical" powers to predict scores in soccer games.


ETA: I would give up one of my hands if I had a chance to talk the reporter beforehand and convince him to ask "Are you under a doctor's care? I am asking because you seem to have a hard time distinguishing fantasy from reality. I am starting to wonder if you could be a danger to other people."

MORE ETA: I think I'll send a quick note to the BBC asking that all future references to Mr. Geller be styled as "Documented Cheater Uri Geller." I'll send a copy of the article from the photography magazine that caught him using transparencies to "psychically" place images on undeveloped film.
 
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9/11
Uri says he was in New York the day before and all the Remote Viewers were active and on alert.
Uri was 're-activated' onto the Remote Viewer program the day after 9/11.

Funny how he never saw it coming!
 
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His 'Showbiz act' is cover for his real 'Spy' work
It apparently stops the PLO or Al Queda coming after hi.

Blown his cover now though hasn't he?
 
The BBC get quite annoyed at suggestions they're 'dumbing down' or are not producing serious, responsible journalism. If anyone from the BBC is reading this thread, broadcasting a puff piece for Uri Geller and calling it a documentary is one of the reasons why you are no longer taken seriously.
 
I kept watching through the first half-hour of uncritical credulity in anticipation of a balancing second half of debunking exposure - but no, the whole hour was uncritical credulity - mainly Geller, or Targ, or Puthoff hinting heavily at secrets they couldn't talk about, but plenty about bent spoons and drawings of hidden pictures. Complete dross.

Having said that, it seems clear that Geller had many friends in high places and probably was recruited by Israeli security services - shame nobody could say whether he'd actually achieved anything besides notoriety. 30-40 years later, is there any evidence whatsoever that any of this secret psychic research has borne fruit? No... or maybe the untold billions being spent on security and spying technology is just a smokescreen :rolleyes:
 
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I’ve too have just watched the Geller programme. I share the view that Geller is a fraud but one of the problems are his claims of having worked for all manner of security agencies as a “psychic spy”. Rather than just dismissing these claims, let’s look at them in a little more detail.

First, we don’t know what the defence agencies are doing. The best we can guess is that they find it worthwhile to take some of the wildest ideas seriously enough to look at them in some detail. Nothing is off limits: experience in WW2 indicated that the Nazis had a lead over the Allies in a number of significant areas – rockets for one thing. Allied intelligence fell into the proverbial trap of “we can’t do it, so they won’t be able to either”.

Secondly, the intelligence world is highly compartmentalised. The principle is “need to know”. If Joe in the next cubicle doesn’t need to know that down in Farnborough they’ve got a crashed UFO, you don’t tell him. An acquaintance of mine worked at GCHQ. He didn’t even know what floor he worked on. (I believe him – what little acquaintance I had with the security services made this entirely credible.)

Thirdly, hiding what you have found from real sources is paramount – but as is how you found it. Making it “known”, preferably by accidentally (or deliberately) letting out that Uri Geller found it by remote viewing, may well conceal other sources – sleepers, aerial photography: remember the WW2 carrots, to hide the development of radar.

Is Geller a stooge being led to believe what he is saying about having worked for this agency or that one? Perfectly possible. Is he a good actor playing a part? Again, perfectly possible.

Is this BBC programme part of the whole game: present him as being sort of genuine, as part of it. I wouldn’t blame the Beeb for falling for this, but is there a mole in it who fed this programme in?

Paranoia is a wonderful game. Trouble is, it may be real. Don't dismiss it: we jusat don't know what not is and what is not. Only that Geller is a fraud. Or is this programme part of the cover-up by telling the truth.
 
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The guy's a ******** artist from the word go, and I wonder who produced this "documentary?"

Could be if someone dug into the production company somebody named Geller might have a piece of the action.
 
I’ve too have just watched the Geller programme. I share the view that Geller is a fraud but one of the problems are his claims of having worked for all manner of security agencies as a “psychic spy”. Rather than just dismissing these claims, let’s look at them in a little more detail.

First, we don’t know what the defence agencies are doing. The best we can guess is that they find it worthwhile to take some of the wildest ideas seriously enough to look at them in some detail. Nothing is off limits: experience in WW2 indicated that the Nazis had a lead over the Allies in a number of significant areas – rockets for one thing. Allied intelligence fell into the proverbial trap of “we can’t do it, so they won’t be able to either”.

Secondly, the intelligence world is highly compartmentalised. The principle is “need to know”. If Joe in the next cubicle doesn’t need to know that down in Farnborough they’ve got a crashed UFO, you don’t tell him. An acquaintance of mine worked at GCHQ. He didn’t even know what floor he worked on. (I believe him – what little acquaintance I had with the security services made this entirely credible.)

Thirdly, hiding what you have found from real sources is paramount – but as is how you found it. Making it “known”, preferably by accidentally (or deliberately) letting out that Uri Geller found it by remote viewing, may well conceal other sources – sleepers, aerial photography: remember the WW2 carrots, to hide the development of radar.

Is Geller a stooge being led to believe what he is saying about having worked for this agency or that one? Perfectly possible. Is he a good actor playing a part? Again, perfectly possible.

Is this BBC programme part of the whole game: present him as being sort of genuine, as part of it. I wouldn’t blame the Beeb for falling for this, but is there a mole in it who fed this programme in?

Paranoia is a wonderful game. Trouble is, it may be real. Don't dismiss it: we jusat don't know what not is and what is not. Only that Geller is a fraud. Or is this programme part of the cover-up by telling the truth.

So we throw him into the same category as Steven Segal, Frank Dux, Warner Smith and Gayle Rivers and call it a day.
 
MORE ETA: I think I'll send a quick note to the BBC asking that all future references to Mr. Geller be styled as "Documented Cheater Uri Geller." I'll send a copy of the article from the photography magazine that caught him using transparencies to "psychically" place images on undeveloped film.

IIRC, that wasn't Geller.

ETA: It was Ted Serios. I don't think Geller ever tried that.
 
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So I'm the only one who thinks this is the BBC at it's finest? It was a setup he was made to look a proper twat from scene one and fared no better as the final credits rolled. A good clue was the background music, Was it 'Man From Uncle' or some other obvious piss take.
This was an elaborate poe, a satire. Wasn't it???
 
I’ve too have just watched the Geller programme. I share the view that Geller is a fraud but one of the problems are his claims of having worked for all manner of security agencies as a “psychic spy”. Rather than just dismissing these claims, let’s look at them in a little more detail.


My point wasn't to dismiss his claims of being paid to work as a psychic spy - I can easily believe that happened. My issue is with him claiming to be successful while working as a psychic spy e.g. using his special mind power to prevent WW III or using mind power to erase a computer floppy disk in a briefcase a few feet away. That is ********* and he is a wanker for claiming it. Or top put a finer point on it - he is a wanker for doing it during the 1980s and not doing it now to save lives.
 
IIRC, that wasn't Geller.

ETA: It was Ted Serios. I don't think Geller ever tried that.

I did get that story from only a single internet source, so you may be completely right. I'll see if I can locate the website that lead me to make that claim.
 
Guardian review:

When Uri Geller was a kid, living at his mum's B&B in Cyprus, he made friends with a guest named Yoav. Uri told Yoav he could read his mind and knew Yoav was an Israeli spy. Yoav said that when Uri grew up he must join the Israeli army, the paratroopers, then officer school, and from there go on to the Mossad. His life was mapped out.

Whoa, hang on. Uri's a cutlery-wrecking television magician and was Michael Jackson's mate when Michael was around to have mates, right? Yeah, he's not just that, though. Not according to The Secret Life of Uri Geller (BBC2, Sunday).

Once, during the six-day war, a Jordanian soldier jumped out from behind a rock, he and Uri looked into each other's eyes, Uri's life flashed before him. And then he shot the Jordanian, dead. Oh! Couldn't he have just bent the barrel of the other guy's gun round? Anyway, from that moment on Uri realised his true love for Israel, and his calling to help, using his paranormal powers.

He began to collect influential friends, like Benjamin Netanyahu (Jacko came later). And he went to a secret place outside Tel Aviv, with barbed wire and camels everywhere (which tells you just how secret it was), and he started doing stuff for the Mossad, though he can't say exactly what; it's too secret obviously. Don't forget there were camels, everywhere; that's how secret it was.

Then the Americans got interested too, because this was the cold war, and they were worried that the Soviet psychics were getting ahead in the spoon-bending race. So one of the heads of the CIA (probably) summoned Uri to America, where he did a lot of work at the Stanford Research Institute, into remote viewing, quantum entanglement, stuff like that; though at that stage the CIA didn't totally trust him; they thought he might be a double agent. From there to Mexico, where Uri spied on the Russians, sat behind them on planes, erasing their floppy discs, using just the power of his mind, naturally.

What about the raid on Entebbe though? Uri can't talk about Entebbe. Is is true he played a pivotal role in the audacious operation to rescue the hostages, took out the radar over the whole of North Africa so that the Israeli Defence Forces could fly in at night? He's not saying. Put it this way, though: he's certainly not saying he didn't do it. Jesus, I'm beginning to wonder what major counter-terrorism operations Uri Geller hasn't been involved in over the years. I'm assuming he was behind the killing of Bin Laden. Mogadishu didn't go so well though, did it Uri? Yeah, I know what you're going to say: Paul Daniels was in charge of that one.

There's a nice deadpan, non-judgemental tone to this film. Vikram Jayanti, who made it, pretty much leaves it up to you what to believe. It's tricky one. Here are these people who seem legit saying they did this and that work with Uri into remote viewing (seeing things you can't see, I think, like where missing people are) etc. But a lot of it – the stuff Uri won't talk about but clearly wants us to believe – is clearly bonkers. And isn't it a bit suspicious that an international spy – psychic spy, whatever the hell it is he thinks he is – is so keen to talk, even if it's mainly to say he can't. Be quiet, and do something useful, like find Madeleine McCann.

He does looks good, for 66, no? Maybe he's done to time what he should have done to that Jordanian's gun barrel: bent it back on itself. Now that would be a useful skill; he could go back to 1972 and undo the Munich massacre.
 

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