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Old 8th January 2014, 12:48 AM   #1
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What Caused the Plane Shaped Hole

In this video I examine the North Tower impact damage on 9/11, allegedly caused by American Airlines Flight 11.

The damage evidence eliminates explosives alone as being the cause, and at the same time it eliminates a Boeing 767 or a reinforced jet of any kind. The video also dispenses with the hologram nonsense and pokes fun at the “mini-nuke” crowd as well as pokes a finger in the eye of the Judy Wood clique.

http://yankee451.com/2014/01/07/cut-...e-episode-one/

Transcript here:
http://yankee451.com/2014/01/07/cut-...e-episode-one/
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Old 8th January 2014, 01:10 AM   #2
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A plane.
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So how were they to be certain the jet would impact at precisely the points it did? That's some awesome precision flying....
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Originally Posted by threadworm View Post
A plane.
Yeah. Makes one wonder why they didnt think of that.
I got my chuckle reading your response. Lol
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Whilst ever we see idiotic claims like
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...we see a carefully prepared impact area with strategically removed bolts and floors.
we can be assured that no one will take truthers seriously.
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Originally Posted by yankee451 View Post
In this video I examine the North Tower impact damage on 9/11, allegedly caused by American Airlines Flight 11.

The damage evidence eliminates explosives alone as being the cause, and at the same time it eliminates a Boeing 767 or a reinforced jet of any kind. The video also dispenses with the hologram nonsense and pokes fun at the “mini-nuke” crowd as well as pokes a finger in the eye of the Judy Wood clique.

http://yankee451.com/2014/01/07/cut-...e-episode-one/

Transcript here:
http://yankee451.com/2014/01/07/cut-...e-episode-one/
So the damage evidence eliminates a jet? or just the specific types of jets you list?
Is this for real?
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Old 8th January 2014, 02:08 AM   #7
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Originally Posted by Iamme View Post
So the damage evidence eliminates a jet? or just the specific types of jets you list?
Is this for real?
Why, what kind of jet were you thinking of?
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Originally Posted by yankee451 View Post
In this video I examine the North Tower impact damage on 9/11, allegedly caused by American Airlines Flight 11.

The damage evidence eliminates explosives alone as being the cause, and at the same time it eliminates a Boeing 767 or a reinforced jet of any kind. The video also dispenses with the hologram nonsense and pokes fun at the “mini-nuke” crowd as well as pokes a finger in the eye of the Judy Wood clique.

http://yankee451.com/2014/01/07/cut-...e-episode-one/

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You're really going to need to show your work on this one.
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Old 8th January 2014, 02:18 AM   #9
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You're really going to need to show your work on this one.
Already have. You're really going to need to watch the video.
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Originally Posted by yankee451 View Post
Why, what kind of jet were you thinking of?
What I don't understand is why you think, death rays, controlled demolition, missiles, holograms and what you believe aren't all the same thing. Your irrational belief is neither better nor worse than the other truthers.
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Originally Posted by yankee451 View Post
Already have. You're really going to need to watch the video.
I started to but it became quickly apparent that your work isn't good enough to bother with.
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A Boeing 757. [/thread]
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Old 8th January 2014, 02:40 AM   #13
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Originally Posted by yankee451 View Post
Why, what kind of jet were you thinking of?
The kind you showed in the video, you know, the one impacting the freaking building. What the hell other kind of jet could it be? Seriously, the fact that no other jet is in the damn video rules out every other kind of jet in existence. Why is this hard for you?
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Old 8th January 2014, 03:05 AM   #14
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Not this crap again.

Start with a conclusion and come up with a convoluted scenario to explain the already arrived at conclusion. Ignore any evidence that disagrees with conclusion, don't care about absence of evidence to support own conclusion.

Rinse, lather repeat. Create random video, as this is how one does good research and analysis, as every detective and scientist knows...

Have piña colada. Mission accomplished.
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A Boeing 757. [/thread]
767*

Planes hit the towers. Get the **** over it yankee.

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Originally Posted by Kid Eager View Post
Not this crap again.

Start with a conclusion and come up with a convoluted scenario to explain the already arrived at conclusion. Ignore any evidence that disagrees with conclusion, don't care about absence of evidence to support own conclusion.

Rinse, lather repeat. Create random video, as this is how one does good research and analysis, as every detective and scientist knows...

Have piña colada. Mission accomplished.
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Originally Posted by cjnewson88 View Post
767*

Planes hit the towers. Get the **** over it yankee.

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Originally Posted by yankee451 View Post
In this video I examine the North Tower impact damage on 9/11, allegedly caused by American Airlines Flight 11.

The damage evidence eliminates explosives alone as being the cause, and at the same time it eliminates a Boeing 767 or a reinforced jet of any kind. The video also dispenses with the hologram nonsense and pokes fun at the “mini-nuke” crowd as well as pokes a finger in the eye of the Judy Wood clique.

http://yankee451.com/2014/01/07/cut-...e-episode-one/

Transcript here:
http://yankee451.com/2014/01/07/cut-...e-episode-one/
Move along people, nothing to see here.
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The plane! The plane!
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How do you know that the video you're watching is running forwards? What if it's running backwards and the plane is actually being expelled from the building? They secretly built a 757 inside the tower and used super-thermite to blast it out the building. That would take care of the hologram nonsense as well. Bet you never thought of that.
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Originally Posted by cjnewson88 View Post
767*

Planes hit the towers. Get the **** over it yankee.

/Thread
Yep.



It is also amazing that after 12+ years, troofers can;t tell the difference between steel columns and aluminum cladding
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Originally Posted by yankee451 View Post
I refuse to watch youtub videos anymore, so thanks for providing the transcript.

In it you assert:
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Now when we look at the gash we don’t see a plane-shaped gash and a random pile of twisted metal, we see a carefully prepared impact area with strategically removed bolts and floors. We noticed that almost all the “wing” damage was directional, but not in the direction the wings were traveling. 767 wings are swept-back about 30 degrees which would mean they would strike in a wedge motion, with the wings sawing from the inside out, from fuselage to wing-tips. The fuselage would strike first, and then would come the wings at the wing roots, followed by the engines and finally the wing tips. Had this happened the damage would reflect it – but it doesn’t.
Your final statement, placed at the bottom of a paragraph where a conclusion would normally be found, does not appear to have any support in the paragraph. Would you please elaborate on this point for me and, with out insisting I watch your video, please present the facts you used to reach this (a priori) conclusion?
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Originally Posted by yankee451 View Post
In this video I examine the North Tower impact damage on 9/11, allegedly caused by American Airlines Flight 11.

The damage evidence eliminates explosives alone as being the cause, and at the same time it eliminates a Boeing 767 or a reinforced jet of any kind. The video also dispenses with the hologram nonsense and pokes fun at the “mini-nuke” crowd as well as pokes a finger in the eye of the Judy Wood clique.

http://yankee451.com/2014/01/07/cut-...e-episode-one/

Transcript here:
http://yankee451.com/2014/01/07/cut-...e-episode-one/
Feel free to PM me so as not to out yourself, but what exactly do you people stand to gain by posting this easily debunked crap?
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Originally Posted by yankee451 View Post
In this video I examine the North Tower impact damage on 9/11, allegedly caused by American Airlines Flight 11.

The damage evidence eliminates explosives alone as being the cause, and at the same time it eliminates a Boeing 767 or a reinforced jet of any kind. The video also dispenses with the hologram nonsense and pokes fun at the “mini-nuke” crowd as well as pokes a finger in the eye of the Judy Wood clique.

http://yankee451.com/2014/01/07/cut-...e-episode-one/

Transcript here:
http://yankee451.com/2014/01/07/cut-...e-episode-one/
So it should look like this?



Does that thinking sort of remind of you of this?

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Originally Posted by yankee451 View Post
In this video I examine the North Tower impact damage on 9/11, allegedly caused by American Airlines Flight 11.

The damage evidence eliminates explosives alone as being the cause, and at the same time it eliminates a Boeing 767 or a reinforced jet of any kind. The video also dispenses with the hologram nonsense and pokes fun at the “mini-nuke” crowd as well as pokes a finger in the eye of the Judy Wood clique.

http://yankee451.com/2014/01/07/cut-...e-episode-one/

Transcript here:
http://yankee451.com/2014/01/07/cut-...e-episode-one/



What made the hole…..?

Mass of the aircraft ca, 127 tons
Velocity ca, 240 m/sec.
Therefore the kinetic energy available at the wall is ca, 3700 MJ.
Equal to ca, 870 Kg of TNT, more than enough to form the aircraft shaped hole!

Any questions?



It is most important to understand the nature of what we see, not what we want to see.

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Originally Posted by yankee451 View Post
Already have. You're really going to need to watch the video.
Why should we be bothered to spend our time watching your video to figure out your POV? If you can't be bothered to explain your claims in your own words, why is the burden on us to do your homework?
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one of these did
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...c/cc/Aa757.jpg

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Once again, I point out that you're examining twelve year-old video that was originally compressed into the format available at the time and has been run through heaven knows how many different video compression formats since. What happens to pixels when their color changes faster than the frame rate? What happens to details smaller than a pixel?

Add to that the fact that, since nobody with a camera was expecting the event, all of the video is from whatever angle the camera happened to catch. None of it was shot head on.

I don't know how anyone can examine any 9/11 video on the internet and come to any conclusion whatsoever other than, "Damn!"
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Originally Posted by yankee451 View Post
In this video I examine the North Tower impact damage on 9/11, allegedly caused by American Airlines Flight 11.

The damage evidence eliminates explosives alone as being the cause, and at the same time it eliminates a Boeing 767 or a reinforced jet of any kind. The video also dispenses with the hologram nonsense and pokes fun at the “mini-nuke” crowd as well as pokes a finger in the eye of the Judy Wood clique.

http://yankee451.com/2014/01/07/cut-...e-episode-one/

Transcript here:
http://yankee451.com/2014/01/07/cut-...e-episode-one/
I haven’t seen this much bunk since the missiles hit the ground at Shanksville.

And before you ask, although I am somewhat embarrassed to admit it, I did watch your very poor video.
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Originally Posted by Robrob View Post
Why should we be bothered to spend our time watching your video to figure out your POV? If you can't be bothered to explain your claims in your own words, why is the burden on us to do your homework?
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Typical " I did all this work and made a video. Its stupendous, its genius, but don't expect me to try to summarize it, just watch and glory in my innovation and genius"
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Originally Posted by yankee451 View Post
In this video I examine the North Tower impact damage on 9/11, allegedly caused by American Airlines Flight 11.

The damage evidence eliminates explosives alone as being the cause, and at the same time it eliminates a Boeing 767 or a reinforced jet of any kind. The video also dispenses with the hologram nonsense and pokes fun at the “mini-nuke” crowd as well as pokes a finger in the eye of the Judy Wood clique.

http://yankee451.com/2014/01/07/cut-...e-episode-one/

Transcript here:
http://yankee451.com/2014/01/07/cut-...e-episode-one/
Flight 11 did it, and to say otherwise is a lie.

Spreading lies on the internet is the only thing you do? Why?

http://www.ntsb.gov/doclib/foia/9_11...l_aircraft.pdf
Wow, the NTSB debunked your fantasy.

Radar data proves you wrong, called science, the claims you make are anti-science.


Not sure why you come here, you call us what? You call everyone this?
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Careful, you are in danger of learning something. http://yankee451.com/2014/01/07/cut-...e-episode-one/
The silly video shows part of the facade, Aluminum facade held on with clips for your evidence. that is funny

Flight 11 hit with the energy of a bomb, 1300 pounds of TNT, almost equal to 3 500 pound bombs. In the shape of a jet, this energy easily entered the WTC which was designed to stop a 187 pound KE impact. Remember in High School and all the "smart" kids took physics, and you did not? BINGO

Please move all this junk to 451s old missiles stuff, when he finishes his next fantasy video of woo, it will be posted and it all goes back to the old silly supersonic missile crap.



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In my search for an honest engineer I came upon one who agreed to write-up a finite element analysis in support of my hypothesis that two JASSM cruise missiles (bunker-busters) striking at ten degree trajectories from opposite directions were responsible for the gash at Shanksville. Engineer Derek Ross took my down payment but never provided a finished product – so I guess I’m still looking for an honest engineer.
This is sad. Do you have anyone who can help you? Family? Do you know why the engineer stopped working for you? Ask your family.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9UXKOIvuYE

You remind me of this guy in the video.

This refutes your video with real science. Go Yankee451; have you read Don Quixote?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn3a--hf7_s
Your video about doing a wing test?
Where is the test? BTW, on 911 two jets hit the WTC, and I have proof, but you don't do science, you make up stuff.

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What caused the plane-shaped hole?

....hmmm....

A duck?
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Any questions?

Yes.

Can you demonstrate how the east-west damage to the steel is consistent with a mostly hollow aluminum jet striking in a north-south trajectory?
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What caused the plane-shaped hole?

....hmmm....

A duck?
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Yes.

Can you demonstrate how the east-west damage to the steel is consistent with a mostly hollow aluminum jet striking in a north-south trajectory?
Mostly hollow? BWAHAHHAHA
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Mostly hollow? BWAHAHHAHA
That's why everybody always raves about the amount of leg room on those things.
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What I don't understand is why you think, death rays, controlled demolition, missiles, holograms and what you believe aren't all the same thing.
I'm pretty sure that's not all you don't understand.

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Your irrational belief is neither better nor worse than the other truthers.
Lemme guess, continuing the carnage without question is what you would consider "rational".
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Originally Posted by yankee451 View Post
I'm pretty sure that's not all you don't understand.



Lemme guess, continuing the carnage without question is what you would consider "rational".
Your claims are silly. It is sad to see you lie about murder. Keep up the great work. What does your family say? What does the fox say?
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Originally Posted by yankee451 View Post
I'm pretty sure that's not all you don't understand.



Lemme guess, continuing the carnage without question is what you would consider "rational".
Yes, there is a lot about your irrationality I don't get. In reality, you, Wood, Gage are all just deck stewards on the Titanic arguing feverishly about the arrangement of the deck chairs after the ship hit the iceberg. Your ideas are a distinction without a difference.

Let's not pretend you're on some noble hunt for truth. Your work wouldn't be of such a poor quality if this were some kind of grand gesture. About 3000 died on 9/11. Your kind should stick to chemtrails and Bigfoot. This is a serious topic and deserves better than you.
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