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Old 28th August 2014, 04:28 PM   #1
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Ruby Ridge a Hoax - Vicki Weaver Alive!

Who knew that "false flag" ops go back to the Bush 41 administration? And that the government hatches these hoaxes to make itself look bad?

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It's obvious nonsense, but does anyone here know anything about searching the Social Security Death Index?

I'm just waiting for these "truther" idiots to begin harassing Ms. Youngblood, or even Randy Weaver, the same as they've done at Sandy Hook.
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Old 28th August 2014, 05:09 PM   #2
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Can you synopsize? I'm not about to watch their video.
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Old 28th August 2014, 05:32 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by nomuse View Post
Can you synopsize? I'm not about to watch their video.
The idiot tried to find Vicki and Sammy Weaver in the Social Security Death Index, but couldn't. He located a Vicki Youngblood who bears a very vague resemblance to what a 20 years older Vicki Weaver might look like (though they have different color eyes!) and claims that Vicki Youngblood is really Vicki Weaver.

Truthers have slid into absolute lunacy. Some are claiming that Elliot Rodger (the shooter at UCSB) is really the same person as the unfortunate James Foley!

I was mainly interested if any JREFers had experience in searching the Social Security database, and the foibles thereof. The real world is obviously not like Hollywood films where you find everything about a person with a few taps on a keyboard.
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Old 28th August 2014, 08:09 PM   #4
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The SSDI, by its own admission, isn't very accurate and doesn't have all the deaths listed. This was one of the attempted 'smoking guns' for the twoofer movement. But their fantasy shattered when it was noted that a lot of known dead people aren't on the index.
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Old 28th August 2014, 08:17 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by Redwood View Post
The idiot tried to find Vicki and Sammy Weaver in the Social Security Death Index, but couldn't. He located a Vicki Youngblood who bears a very vague resemblance to what a 20 years older Vicki Weaver might look like (though they have different color eyes!) and claims that Vicki Youngblood is really Vicki Weaver.

Truthers have slid into absolute lunacy. Some are claiming that Elliot Rodger (the shooter at UCSB) is really the same person as the unfortunate James Foley!

I was mainly interested if any JREFers had experience in searching the Social Security database, and the foibles thereof. The real world is obviously not like Hollywood films where you find everything about a person with a few taps on a keyboard.
The current set of CTers are a bunch of crappy fan fiction writers mentally masturbating over horrific tragedies and creating bizarre sci-fi scenarios to make them fit into their myopic, paranoid worldview.
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Old 29th August 2014, 04:39 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by Redwood View Post
The idiot tried to find Vicki and Sammy Weaver in the Social Security Death Index, but couldn't. He located a Vicki Youngblood who bears a very vague resemblance to what a 20 years older Vicki Weaver might look like (though they have different color eyes!) and claims that Vicki Youngblood is really Vicki Weaver.

Truthers have slid into absolute lunacy. Some are claiming that Elliot Rodger (the shooter at UCSB) is really the same person as the unfortunate James Foley!

This sounds like more crap from the VicSims/Crisis Actors idiots. They find people who bear a superficial likeness to each other, and declare that they must be the same people. Either it's the same person "acting" as a victim/perpetrator in the event, or they're computer-generated simulations that use a common template to fake the image.

These guys are so far out of touch with reality, that in real life, they've apparently never run across someone who looks like another person they know.
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Old 29th August 2014, 09:32 AM   #7
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Originally Posted by Redwood View Post
Who knew that "false flag" ops go back to the Bush 41 administration? And that the government hatches these hoaxes to make itself look bad?
Bush 41!? I have read threads that say the titanic was a false flag!

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It's obvious nonsense, but does anyone here know anything about searching the Social Security Death Index?

I'm just waiting for these "truther" idiots to begin harassing Ms. Youngblood, or even Randy Weaver, the same as they've done at Sandy Hook.
The SSDI is a database and as such is only as good as the information entered. It contains a lot of good info but it is incomplete and replete with errors.

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A recent government audit revealed that the Social Security Administration had incorrectly listed 23,000 people as dead in a two-year period
from the wikipedia article on it.
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Old 29th August 2014, 12:37 PM   #8
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Why was this perky sleuth typing Vicki Weaver's name into that database in the first place?

Somewhere there is a lawn that needs serious mowing.
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Old 30th August 2014, 07:30 AM   #9
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Originally Posted by kookbreaker View Post
The SSDI, by its own admission, isn't very accurate and doesn't have all the deaths listed. This was one of the attempted 'smoking guns' for the twoofer movement. But their fantasy shattered when it was noted that a lot of known dead people aren't on the index.
It would be understandable if this explanation wasn't on the inquiry page:

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The Death Master File (DMF) from the Social Security Administration (SSA) currently contains over 89 million records and is updated weekly. The file is created from internal SSA records of deceased persons possessing social security numbers and whose deaths were reported to the SSA. Often this was done in connection with filing for death benefits by a family member, an attorney, a mortuary, etc. Each update of the DMF includes corrections to old data as well as additional names. [NOTE: If someone is missing from the list, it may be that the benefit was never requested, an error was made on the form requesting the benefit, or an error was made when entering the information into the SSDI.]
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Originally Posted by DGM View Post
It would be understandable if this explanation wasn't on the inquiry page:




Oh, sure, quote the self-serving "explanation" of the very people we're accusing of covering up fake deaths!





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Old 30th August 2014, 08:23 AM   #11
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Originally Posted by Horatius View Post
Oh, sure, quote the self-serving "explanation" of the very people we're accusing of covering up fake deaths!





Yeah, I know. Another big clue might be that they only have 89 Million records since 1935.
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Old 30th August 2014, 09:27 AM   #12
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Well, of course! The rest are virtual people, don'tchaknow?

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Originally Posted by DGM View Post
It would be understandable if this explanation wasn't on the inquiry page:



,,, and people such as Randy Weaver would be so typically the type that would make contact with, and claim death benefits from, a govt agency.

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