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I recently saw a tv show, who's basic premise was that the inquiry into the twin towers collapse, was that the commission failed to take into account the massive amounts of aluminium injected into the buildings in the form of the two planes.

apart from the fact that I was totally ignorant of the fact that aluminium is explosive under the right conditions, it appeared to provide a logical explanation

hiw likely is this to be at least a partial explanation?
 
mikado said:
I recently saw a tv show, who's basic premise was that the inquiry into the twin towers collapse, was that the commission failed to take into account the massive amounts of aluminium injected into the buildings in the form of the two planes.

apart from the fact that I was totally ignorant of the fact that aluminium is explosive under the right conditions, it appeared to provide a logical explanation

hiw likely is this to be at least a partial explanation?
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What show? The conditions for the aluminum to become explosive would not be "right" (it would need to be reduced to a fine powder*).

* see "dust explosions", flour is also really nasty.
 
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the suggestion was that the glowing liquid that was filmed pouring out of a floor was molten aluminium, that the other ingredients necessary for an explosive situation was water and gypsum..
it was interesting as I simply had no idea that aluminum was explosive. I did, however, know about the flour ..
the show was called the missing evidence and aired on SBS in Australia on Wednesday night.
let me stress I have no time for conspiracy theories and even less for the theorists. that also was the tenor of the show.
 
mikado said:
the suggestion was that the glowing liquid that was filmed pouring out of a floor was molten aluminium, that the other ingredients necessary for an explosive situation was water and gypsum..
it was interesting as I simply had no idea that aluminum was explosive. I did, however, know about the flour ..
the show was called the missing evidence and aired on SBS in Australia on Wednesday night.
let me stress I have no time for conspiracy theories and even less for the theorists. that also was the tenor of the show.
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I tend to doubt the glowing liquid was actually aluminum. Aluminum cools too quickly and would not likely flow like what was seen. I lean toward lead from the UPS batteries that were in that area. Internal shorts could easily cause enough heat to melt the batteries.
 
DGM said:
I tend to doubt the glowing liquid was actually aluminum. Aluminum cools too quickly and would not likely flow like what was seen. I lean toward lead from the UPS batteries that were in that area. Internal shorts could easily cause enough heat to melt the batteries.
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It could have been lead, molten, glass, or Aluminum with nitrogen, AlN,
I believe it was a mix, I must point out that molten Aluminum can fall into water and cause a hydrogen reaction, provided it is hot enough and does not cool in air during the fall.
And splatters sufficently on impact.

Your basicly referring to Dr. Frank Greenings Theory, I doubt that hydrogen played any part in collapses initiations but might have occurred after in said collapses began in the pressure wave of air being compressed down the core.
 
If aluminum scrapes against rust during the collapse, you actually get a mini-thermite reaction.
 
Crazy Chainsaw said:
Your basicly referring to Dr. Frank Greenings Theory, I doubt that hydrogen played any part in collapses initiations but might have occurred after in said collapses began in the pressure wave of air being compressed down the core.
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Not so much. I think shorts caused conventional fires melting the containment (plastic)structure, leading to the melting of the lead plates.
 
chrismohr said:
If aluminum scrapes against rust during the collapse, you actually get a mini-thermite reaction.
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Chris, http://www.espimetals.com/index.php/msds/320-aluminum-nitride

AlN can form in air on molten Aluminum, or though mixing of aluminum and nitrides.

If aluminum at 1000C flows or splatters thin enough and comes in contact with water it will oxidize and produce hydrogen.
The hydrogen can then splatter more aluminum creating more hydrogen or thermitic reactions.
However this is more likely a product of the collapses, not the cause of them.
 
DGM said:
I tend to doubt the glowing liquid was actually aluminum. Aluminum cools too quickly and would not likely flow like what was seen. I lean toward lead from the UPS batteries that were in that area. Internal shorts could easily cause enough heat to melt the batteries.
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What that stuff reminds me of is the time I saw a transformer on a utility pole hit by lightning. After a huge shower of sparks, glowing stuff like that poured out onto the street for several seconds.
 
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