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30 pictures of 9/11 that show you why
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Forge? Forge steel! Steel beams! The same beams supposedly melted by jet fuel! (It's no stupider than this article; at least the one about secret Nazi bases is keeping it from the top spot.)

Honestly though, I'm bemused that this is on news.com.au at all. I didn't think they were that desperate for content and views.
 
ComfySlippers said:
Source: Infowars. A place where there's such a large turnaround in customers that theres an alleged military takeover every week.
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A place where there's such a large turnaround in customers, that Alex Jones can broadcast that the world is ending as he speak and still be on the air 15 years later.
 
Kid Eager said:
Apparently there's a plan to establish martial law in the USA, under the guise of a military exercise.

Just was well you guys are so vigilant!

http://www.news.com.au/world/conspiracy-us-special-forces-exercise-said-to-be-training-for-martial-law-military-coup/story-fndir2ev-1227274062108
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From the article:
It’s also quite a tame conspiracy, considering allegations President Barack Obama recently sought to have the South Carolina city of Charleston nuked.
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Rincewind said:
If this keeps up, you're going to need a much bigger White House...



Sorry - you should embiggen the White House...
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Doesn't the 238th amendment make that unconstitutional?
It's. In one of those secret ones, under "starting Figboot threads is a capital offence" and "don't mention that we keep amending things"

Oh oh. Hope Alex Jones didn't just read that.
I don't think I can could handle twenty years of fear of assassination like he has.

Such a brave warrior.
(look at my website for the best prices in gold)
:)
 
The CTer's recently got their collective panties in a bunch over the Robin Sage FTX that's been a part of the SF qualification course... since the 1950's...

http://freedomoutpost.com/2014/01/u...ow-training-local-police-secret-joint-effort/

The fact is that it's run in the open and it's part of the local culture that civilians lend a hand to the trainees when requested that apparently escaped notice of the CTer's but given their history of selective attention it's no surprise.
 
Besides this being what, the 1,000th time at least this has been said 'Martial Law in America', the way the military trains off military bases has gotten more-and-more attention over the years. From time-to-time, I'll see an article on one of the CBS Local affiliates that talks about realistic military training going on and it scaring the hell out of people because no forewarning was given. The special forces have been just as active as the National Guard inside CONUS, this is just going to be another exercise out of the many they have already conducted. I grew up in a military town that has a very large base. I'm used to seeing a convoy 35 deep coming towards me :)

Living within a few minutes driving time of the impact ranges was cool at times, but mostly annoying because the dogs hated it and always let me know they hated it.

At a fundamental level though, this is an area that does indeed deserve attention. Knowing what our military is doing, domestically or abroad, is one area of knowledge required to be a well-informed citizen. It concerns some people right out of the gate, the whole 'standing army' thing. President Obama stoked those fears even more as he was running his first election to be POTUS. His statement about creating a Civilian National Security Force that is every bit as strong and well-funded as the military got people's attention on the right. Combined with the President's views on guns, we've seen a dramatic increase in the amount of civilian militias forming in the U.S. People on the left were concerned about militarized police after the Ferguson standoff and people on the right were worried about aggressive federal power at the Bundy ranch standoff. A whole bunch of people have noticed things over the years, like in the aftermath of the Boston bombing when 19,000 heavily armed and armored police locked a town down and went house-to-house. People also noticed how this past winter that people were arrested for violating curfew in NYC and New Jersey that was set after the blizzard. Police brutality is every bit as prominent on the left and the right today because it is being recorded more because of available technology.

So, there is room for concern but the hammer isn't falling because there is a large military exercise going on. I worked on the largest exercise the base in my hometown has ever seen last summer. Troops are training because that's what troops do when they are not deployed. The military tries to maintain some semblance of readiness. And as Bill Maher has said more than once, 'We're getting dangerously close to being in no wars.' Now the main topics of discussion are boots on the ground to fight ISIS and the Iranian nuclear deal. Unless President Obama is lying his ass off, all options remain on the table to prevent Iran from getting the bomb. Training for either contingency requires troops to interact with civilians. There is an ample amount of civilians here to experiment with and who are eager to participate and help in any way that they can.
 
BStrong said:
The CTer's recently got their collective panties in a bunch over the Robin Sage FTX that's been a part of the SF qualification course... since the 1950's...

http://freedomoutpost.com/2014/01/u...ow-training-local-police-secret-joint-effort/

The fact is that it's run in the open and it's part of the local culture that civilians lend a hand to the trainees when requested that apparently escaped notice of the CTer's but given their history of selective attention it's no surprise.
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I touched on that in my previous post. However, there is room for concern here too. Having the special forces train civilian police has, like anything else, advantages and disadvantages. There have been many notable examples where this partnership has veered off course and has violated American's Constitutional Rights. The police getting involved in the war on terror has seen the same mistakes we've seen since the police got involved in the war on drugs. With new authorities, training and gear, it is only natural for abuse to occur, which it does at an almost daily rate in the U.S. right now. Some of the gimmicks are, Use It Or Lose It. That is in reference to the police's military equipment -- they have to use it to keep it. Well, what do you think happens next? If you said: They find a reason to use it, then you are correct. Again, only natural. But being aware of these things and speaking up when they cross the line is also only natural. You can't always expect people to shrivel under oppression.
 
Jango said:
I touched on that in my previous post. However, there is room for concern here too. Having the special forces train civilian police has, like anything else, advantages and disadvantages. There have been many notable examples where this partnership has veered off course and has violated American's Constitutional Rights. The police getting involved in the war on terror has seen the same mistakes we've seen since the police got involved in the war on drugs. With new authorities, training and gear, it is only natural for abuse to occur, which it does at an almost daily rate in the U.S. right now. Some of the gimmicks are, Use It Or Lose It. That is in reference to the police's military equipment -- they have to use it to keep it. Well, what do you think happens next? If you said: They find a reason to use it, then you are correct. Again, only natural. But being aware of these things and speaking up when they cross the line is also only natural. You can't always expect people to shrivel under oppression.
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I've been on both sides of the question, and you may not know this (or choose to believe it) but there isn't much Mil/LEA interaction where the Military trains LEO's to act as adjunct troopers - the military does train LEA's/LEO's on how to interact w/ mil forces in the event of disaster (natural or otherwise) and does train LEA's/LEO's how to best stay out of harm's way in the event a mil unit has to engage in MOUT, but believe me, nobody in the US military is training SWAT to clear rooms the way that specops units do, and nobody in LE is training military teams to engage in community policing.

The interaction that does go on in the realm of shooting and moving is very basic, because the two jobs are so very different - what makes absolute sense and is SOP in a military situation is completely out of the question in a LE situation, and the tactics and skills used by a street cop has little to no relationship to how an enlisted man or NCO would operate in a real world situation in the infantry.
 
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Jango said:
Besides this being what, the 1,000th time at least this has been said 'Martial Law in America', the way the military trains off military bases has gotten more-and-more attention over the years. From time-to-time, I'll see an article on one of the CBS Local affiliates that talks about realistic military training going on and it scaring the hell out of people because no forewarning was given. The special forces have been just as active as the National Guard inside CONUS, this is just going to be another exercise out of the many they have already conducted. I grew up in a military town that has a very large base. I'm used to seeing a convoy 35 deep coming towards me :)

Living within a few minutes driving time of the impact ranges was cool at times, but mostly annoying because the dogs hated it and always let me know they hated it.

At a fundamental level though, this is an area that does indeed deserve attention. Knowing what our military is doing, domestically or abroad, is one area of knowledge required to be a well-informed citizen. It concerns some people right out of the gate, the whole 'standing army' thing. President Obama stoked those fears even more as he was running his first election to be POTUS. His statement about creating a Civilian National Security Force that is every bit as strong and well-funded as the military got people's attention on the right. Combined with the President's views on guns, we've seen a dramatic increase in the amount of civilian militias forming in the U.S. People on the left were concerned about militarized police after the Ferguson standoff and people on the right were worried about aggressive federal power at the Bundy ranch standoff. A whole bunch of people have noticed things over the years, like in the aftermath of the Boston bombing when 19,000 heavily armed and armored police locked a town down and went house-to-house. People also noticed how this past winter that people were arrested for violating curfew in NYC and New Jersey that was set after the blizzard. Police brutality is every bit as prominent on the left and the right today because it is being recorded more because of available technology.

So, there is room for concern but the hammer isn't falling because there is a large military exercise going on. I worked on the largest exercise the base in my hometown has ever seen last summer. Troops are training because that's what troops do when they are not deployed. The military tries to maintain some semblance of readiness. And as Bill Maher has said more than once, 'We're getting dangerously close to being in no wars.' Now the main topics of discussion are boots on the ground to fight ISIS and the Iranian nuclear deal. Unless President Obama is lying his ass off, all options remain on the table to prevent Iran from getting the bomb. Training for either contingency requires troops to interact with civilians. There is an ample amount of civilians here to experiment with and who are eager to participate and help in any way that they can.
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Try better Jango.
You fail abysmally with your woosense as always.

Choose your reading material better before you serve your copy pasta.
 
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I found that post to be a lucid recitation of an actual real world experience. I saw nothing meriting the response you got, jango. Some of your opinioneering is, well, opinionated. But we already know where you're coming from so those opinion statements did not strike me as exceptional in tone, volume or scope.

It seems to me 'slippers was reacting in a knee-jerk manner.
 
Rincewind said:
If this keeps up, you're going to need a much bigger White House...
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Apologies for nitpicking, RincyRince, but I think that is a grammatically incorrect usage of an ellipsis.
 
I know US special forces are tough and all that, but to think that 1200 of them (with associated support personnel) can capture and hold everything between California and Texas, is industrial strength craziness.

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It is also exceptionally insulting to insinuate that US special forces will not even hesitate to follow orders to shoot US citizens on US soil. WTF?
 
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This old CT again? I remember, shortly after Obama's first win but before he came into office, getting an email from a co-worker about how Bush was going to declare martial law and keep the Presidency for himself. Unfortunately for the co-worker, she accidently emailed it to our entire international company. Some people did a reply-all - a guy in France said that he didn't give a **** about American politics; a rig worker in Louisiana replied with an expletive laden diatribe on how that (racial slur) was going to ruin America when he got into office and Bush should keep the Presidency to save America(!); and some guy in Canada asked if all the Liberals were going to run up there to avoid the chaos. Add to that the myriad of people who sent "Please take me off this email list!" (Which to me showed how dumb they all were as they were asking to be taken off their work email...) The woman who sent the email was yelling that it was a conspiracy by the IT department as she had only meant to send it to her close circle of friends, while she was being summarily fired and walked out of the office. The rig worker in Louisiana was fired. I don't know what happened to the other two who replied from out of the US. Several coworkers were about to hit reply all when they realized that it might not be in their best interests.

Basically, the entire fiasco brought our email down for two and a half days while IT scrambled to clean it all up. Out of Office reply all's kept pouring in and that made it hard to finally squash.
 
The Mutha said:
This old CT again? I remember, shortly after Obama's first win but before he came into office, getting an email from a co-worker about how Bush was going to declare martial law and keep the Presidency for himself. Unfortunately for the co-worker, she accidently emailed it to our entire international company. Some people did a reply-all - a guy in France said that he didn't give a **** about American politics; a rig worker in Louisiana replied with an expletive laden diatribe on how that (racial slur) was going to ruin America when he got into office and Bush should keep the Presidency to save America(!); and some guy in Canada asked if all the Liberals were going to run up there to avoid the chaos. Add to that the myriad of people who sent "Please take me off this email list!" (Which to me showed how dumb they all were as they were asking to be taken off their work email...) The woman who sent the email was yelling that it was a conspiracy by the IT department as she had only meant to send it to her close circle of friends, while she was being summarily fired and walked out of the office. The rig worker in Louisiana was fired. I don't know what happened to the other two who replied from out of the US. Several coworkers were about to hit reply all when they realized that it might not be in their best interests.

Basically, the entire fiasco brought our email down for two and a half days while IT scrambled to clean it all up. Out of Office reply all's kept pouring in and that made it hard to finally squash.
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This is why IT departments in most companies restrict access to the "All Users" (and similar) mail groups.

ETA: They did NOT do this when I worked for the Army Reserve...at a time when the entire Army Reserve was on ONE Windows domain...with tens of thousands of users...I still have nightmares about multi-week reply all storms *shudder*
 
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Yep, the company I'm referring to restricted most of its users to certain email rings as well - except the woman worked in the international credit department. That department was one of the few that were able to send an email to the entire corporation.

My sister who is a director of IT for a large international company says its one of the scenarios that all IT folk fear.
 
Listen! It is all true! I am currently being held against my will in a Starbucks basement- you will probably never be able to find and rescue me there. I am posting by using a rig I made from a bent paperclip, my electronic car key fob, and an old flashlight battery, so I don't know how long a message I can type. The coded clue for the military takeover was the Starbucks race initiative. It is now on going. The password, if you need to use it, is "I'll have a double latte with soy milk and almond extract."

They are currently rounding up all the true patriots with the idea of brain washing them to be pro-immigration. If somehow you are still free, try to make for Canada, before it is too late. O no, my p wer is almo t gon . Long live Don ld Tru p!
 
The Mutha said:
Yep, the company I'm referring to restricted most of its users to certain email rings as well - except the woman worked in the international credit department. That department was one of the few that were able to send an email to the entire corporation.

My sister who is a director of IT for a large international company says its one of the scenarios that all IT folk fear.
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Very much so. We had an incident here recently where a user replied to a large group, including an external customer, in an email that included PII (a signed copy of a Power of Attorney). That was bad enough, but then no less than four people, including two IT "professionals", replied all including the attachment to ask why they got the email.

Some days, it's a wonder I'm able to cling to the shreds of sanity I still have.
 
Kid Eager said:
Apparently there's a plan to establish martial law in the USA, under the guise of a military exercise.

Just was well you guys are so vigilant!

http://www.news.com.au/world/conspiracy-us-special-forces-exercise-said-to-be-training-for-martial-law-military-coup/story-fndir2ev-1227274062108
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Is that the one where all Americans are shipped to FEMA camps ? Is it related to the one where Bush would retain power through enabling martial law ? How'd that one work out ?
 
TofuFighter said:
Apologies for nitpicking, RincyRince, but I think that is a grammatically incorrect usage of an ellipsis.
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Well, if we're nitpicking, I'm not sure that punctuation counts as grammar, does it?

Wikipedia's article on grammar begins with the following:

In linguistics, grammar is the set of structural rules governing the composition of clauses, phrases, and words in any given natural language.​

So, just so far as we're all committed to pedantry, I think you made a mistake there.
 
Ladewig said:
I know US special forces are tough and all that, but to think that 1200 of them (with associated support personnel) can capture and hold everything between California and Texas, is industrial strength craziness.

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It is also exceptionally insulting to insinuate that US special forces will not even hesitate to follow orders to shoot US citizens on US soil. WTF?
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For CTists, it's part of one of their most popular strongly held beliefs, that all military service members follow any order that comes down the chain of command w/o question, and never reveal their inside knowledge after they ETS.

If the question relates specifically to SF, then the operators are even more evil than the run-of-the-mill enlisted drone, and who knows what evil NWO secret weapons they might deploy!
 
BStrong said:
For CTists, it's part of one of their most popular strongly held beliefs, that all military service members follow any order that comes down the chain of command w/o question, and never reveal their inside knowledge after they ETS.

If the question relates specifically to SF, then the operators are even more evil than the run-of-the-mill enlisted drone, and who knows what evil NWO secret weapons they might deploy!
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I'll ask my brother if they've gotten any orders recently regarding an SF takeover. He's a Major in an SF unit, so he should know something.
 
Jrrarglblarg said:
I found that post to be a lucid recitation of an actual real world experience. I saw nothing meriting the response you got, jango. Some of your opinioneering is, well, opinionated. But we already know where you're coming from so those opinion statements did not strike me as exceptional in tone, volume or scope.

It seems to me 'slippers was reacting in a knee-jerk manner.
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Thank you.

I'm curious though. Where do you believe I veered into 'opinioneering'? Also, where do you think I am coming from with what I say?
 
turingtest said:
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It’s also quite a tame conspiracy, considering allegations President Barack Obama recently sought to have the South Carolina city of Charleston nuked.
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http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=30648http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/thum_6596955101ed90d23b.jpg
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For that one blame Sorcha Faal, snopes has the full details, for what they are worth:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/conspiracy/charleston.asp
 
Belz... said:
Is that the one where all Americans are shipped to FEMA camps ? Is it related to the one where Bush would retain power through enabling martial law ? How'd that one work out ?
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I'm posting from a plastic coffin right now!

Tell the world my stfgjdkjfgkfknbb n';,mbfvkll..........
 
Ladewig said:
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It is also exceptionally insulting to insinuate that US special forces will not even hesitate to follow orders to shoot US citizens on US soil. WTF?
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What???
Of course they will, do you think they signed on out of some sense of patriotism or reverence of the constitution or such??

Ok, apart from bad Hollywood movies and that nut who ran a torture centre in Kabul, they are likely decent chaps. :D:boxedin:

What I wonder about is what the CT types see as a motive for our capitalist overlords. The US is pretty much sewn up, with the income distribution changing nicely upward and no need for dramatic changes.


Back in the thirties there were more of a motive with the New Deal in progress, and yes, there facist/naziwere coup plans. Foiled by a general who took his job serious. http://www.cracked.com/article_15974_7-insane-conspiracies-that-actually-happened.html
 
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