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Old 4th February 2016, 07:45 AM   #1
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Southern Baptists: religious sect, a sect of the Republican party or just racist?

Russell Moore is the head of the Southern Baptist Convention's "Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission," a very powerful position in theSBC and effectively the SBC's public spokesman. He's a good Fundamentalist Christian, and adamantly opposes abortion and gay marriage, and is a card-carrying bible-inerrantist YEC. More or less, what you'd expect for a gung-ho bigwig in a hardcore fundamentalist relgion.

But not quite. See, not all Southern Baptists are happy with him, because of his "liberal" bent. Not religiously liberal, mind you, but consider these objections:
1) he has actively opposed building a wall to prevent the entry of illegal immigrants, and has, can you believe it, advocated for immigration reform to allow a path toward legal status
2) he supported removing the Confederate flag at the South Carolina capitol
3) he supported the allowing of Syrian immigrants
4) he doesn't support Donald Trump

Seriously, these are the objections being leveled against the guy who is the spokesman for the SBC.

The question is, what does any of this have to do with the teachings of Christianity? Where is the biblical basis? Oh sure, these are totally consistent with the positions of the Republican party, and are strongly grounded in racism, but it's hard to see what it has to do with Christianity.

It's like they have decided that the SBC needs to be a voice for the Republican party, as opposed to a voice for Jesus.

Or maybe they are just a bunch of racists...
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Old 4th February 2016, 07:55 AM   #2
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What about all three?
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Old 4th February 2016, 04:19 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by pgwenthold View Post
Russell Moore is the head of the Southern Baptist Convention's "Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission," a very powerful position in theSBC and effectively the SBC's public spokesman. He's a good Fundamentalist Christian, and adamantly opposes abortion and gay marriage, and is a card-carrying bible-inerrantist YEC. More or less, what you'd expect for a gung-ho bigwig in a hardcore fundamentalist relgion.

But not quite. See, not all Southern Baptists are happy with him, because of his "liberal" bent. Not religiously liberal, mind you, but consider these objections:
1) he has actively opposed building a wall to prevent the entry of illegal immigrants, and has, can you believe it, advocated for immigration reform to allow a path toward legal status
2) he supported removing the Confederate flag at the South Carolina capitol
3) he supported the allowing of Syrian immigrants
4) he doesn't support Donald Trump

Seriously, these are the objections being leveled against the guy who is the spokesman for the SBC.

The question is, what does any of this have to do with the teachings of Christianity? Where is the biblical basis? Oh sure, these are totally consistent with the positions of the Republican party, and are strongly grounded in racism, but it's hard to see what it has to do with Christianity.

It's like they have decided that the SBC needs to be a voice for the Republican party, as opposed to a voice for Jesus.

Or maybe they are just a bunch of racists...
The headline would give the obviously misleading impression that you are sweeping the entire Organization (which would presumably include both the very guy they are complaining about and his supporters) into the same sweeping generalization, which of course you are not doing because that would be crazy.

A better headline? Do some Southern Baptists think it is a religious sect, a sect of the Republican party or are they just racist?

Hell, i think we can all conclude that some of them are all three!

Question answered, thread closed....
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Old 4th February 2016, 04:21 PM   #4
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They're religious, they're racists, they're Republicans...

and some of them, I assume, are good people.
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What about all three?
Yes. My cousins are, the more moderate ones anyway, MoBaps. The best of them can be dangerous in a casual, "Gotta kill ya, not personal, you just might take my parking place some day" fashion.
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what do the bad ones do? what do they make of you???
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what do the bad ones do? what do they make of you???
The dark end of the gene pool there is where you find the Oath Keepers, Kluxers, snake handlers, etc. They don't like me, but they're afraid of me too, so we live worlds apart and a county away.
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Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
They're religious, they're racists, they're Republicans...

and some of them, I assume, are good people.

And some of them want to Mount Russ Moore's head on the wall.
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Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
They're religious, they're racists, they're Republicans...

and some of them, I assume, are good people.
Never assume: it makes an ass of u and me!!!!
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Originally Posted by FenerFan View Post
And some of them want to Mount Russ Moore's head on the wall.
Mount RussMoore has a presidential sound to it!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
They're religious, they're racists, they're Republicans...

and some of them, I assume, are good people.
Originally Posted by FenerFan View Post
And some of them want to Mount Russ Moore's head on the wall.
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Never assume: it makes an ass of u and me!!!!
Did nobody notice it was a slightly altered quote from The Donald's announcement speech?
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Did nobody notice it was a slightly altered quote from The Donald's announcement speech?
I did not, I just listen to orange hair when I need a quick laugh.
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I always thought they were a bunch of overbearing trolls, personally.
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