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Old 18th December 2015, 04:50 PM   #1
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30% of polled Republicans want to bomb fictional city from Aladdin

Ever heard of Agrabah? If you ever watched the Disney animated film Aladdin you have. That was where it was set. So, yes, it is a fictional city in an animated film.

So maybe it is understandable that 87% of Republican voters didn't know what or where the city was. What is disturbing is that 30% of them said they supported bombing it anyways! And nearly half of Trump supporters were definitely in favor of throwing down munitions on flying carpets.


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Old 18th December 2015, 04:58 PM   #2
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And nearly 20% of Democrats said the same which is maybe even more worrying.

That's one freakin' scary country you have there. At least our right-wing politicians are just uncaring dicks.
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And 20% of Democrats, just to be fair.

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This brings up an issue I have been thinking about with Trump and whether he and polling influence "public opinion" simply by being asked.
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I am not entirely convinced that these numbers are representative of the nation as a whole.
Public Policy Polling surveyed 532 usual Republican primary voters and 525 usual Democratic primary voters on December 16th and 17th. The margin of error for both parties is +/-4.3%. 80% of participants responded via the phone, while 20% of respondents who did not have landlines conducted the survey over the internet.
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I think you buried the lead, Travis.
After all, Americans are notoriously poor at distinguishing between fictional and real places.

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Ever heard of Agrabah? If you ever watched the Disney animated film Aladdin you have. That was where it was set. So, yes, it is a fictional city in an animated film.

So maybe it is understandable that 87% of Republican voters didn't know what or where the city was. What is disturbing is that 30% of them said they supported bombing it anyways! And nearly half of Trump supporters were definitely in favor of throwing down munitions on flying carpets.


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You think the statistic you cited is scarier than an alleged 26% of Republicans thinking that Islam should be illegal in the United States? W.T.F.?
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Yeah, and once on the Man Show, women signed a petition to stop women's suffrage! Big deal!

Funny you left out the 10% difference with Dems, though!
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Old 18th December 2015, 06:17 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by Travis View Post
Ever heard of Agrabah? If you ever watched the Disney animated film Aladdin you have. That was where it was set. So, yes, it is a fictional city in an animated film.

So maybe it is understandable that 87% of Republican voters didn't know what or where the city was. What is disturbing is that 30% of them said they supported bombing it anyways! And nearly half of Trump supporters were definitely in favor of throwing down munitions on flying carpets.


http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/m...ntains-bi.html


It's really not that disturbing at all. What is heard is.... "Do you want to bomb ISIS." That's it.
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Old 18th December 2015, 06:19 PM   #11
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You know. I want to bomb Agrabah too.
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Other than grabbing sleazy headlines, why do they put in trick questions?

I **** with every poll I have ever taken. You want me to be serious? Pay me!
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Old 18th December 2015, 10:38 PM   #13
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Originally Posted by Ladewig View Post
I think you buried the lead, Travis.
After all, Americans are notoriously poor at distinguishing between fictional and real places.



You think the statistic you cited is scarier than an alleged 26% of Republicans thinking that Islam should be illegal in the United States? W.T.F.?
That's not as funny a headline.

But other interesting results include.

Believe thousands of Arabs in New Jersey
cheered when the World Trade Center
collapsed on 9/11..........36%

Support shutting down mosques in the United
States............28%

Support the policy of Japanese Internment.....28%





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Yeah, and once on the Man Show, women signed a petition to stop women's suffrage! Big deal!

Funny you left out the 10% difference with Dems, though!
Funny that at least more Dems outright opposed it. Only 13% of Republicans said they'd oppose bombing a place they hadn't heard of.
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Let's not reject it out of hand. We should keep all options on the table. If it gives us a military advantage, maybe bombing Disney should be considered.
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Yeah, and once on the Man Show, women signed a petition to stop women's suffrage! Big deal!
And lefties will mostly say yes when asked "Do you support Hillary Clinton's plan to ___" no matter what you fill in the blank with.

It's not news that people from one side in politics come up with silly traps to try to make the other side look bad. All that's really revealed is the nature of the people who create and share these things (and maybe what they think of the people they choose to share them with), not of the people they're supposed to be about.
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And lefties will mostly say yes when asked "Do you support Hillary Clinton's plan to ___" no matter what you fill in the blank with.

It's not news that people from one side in politics come up with silly traps to try to make the other side look bad. All that's really revealed is the nature of the people who create and share these things (and maybe what they think of the people they choose to share them with), not of the people they're supposed to be about.
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Originally Posted by Delvo View Post
And lefties will mostly say yes when asked "Do you support Hillary Clinton's plan to ___" no matter what you fill in the blank with.

It's not news that people from one side in politics come up with silly traps to try to make the other side look bad. All that's really revealed is the nature of the people who create and share these things (and maybe what they think of the people they choose to share them with), not of the people they're supposed to be about.
They do not always do that. Just the day before yesterday I was hit up for an opinion poll (I still have a landline) and it was mostly on energy policy. Anyways I let them know that I mostly disagree with Hillary on energy policy and think she's too close to corporate oil interests. And I plan to vote for Hillary.
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Ever heard of Agrabah? If you ever watched the Disney animated film Aladdin you have. That was where it was set. So, yes, it is a fictional city in an animated film.

So maybe it is understandable that 87% of Republican voters didn't know what or where the city was. What is disturbing is that 30% of them said they supported bombing it anyways!

You know that the news media elsewhere in the world is going to report this as follows: "30% of Americans want to bomb fictional city in Aladdin. Let us laugh at them and their 'cheese' in a can"
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You know that the news media elsewhere in the world is going to report this as follows: "30% of Americans want to bomb fictional city in Aladdin. Let us laugh at them and their 'cheese' in a can"
No.

It's being reported as "Once again, Americans seem willing to commit to bombing anything anywhere, even if it's a fictional target from a children's' animated movie. Let's all through our hands up in frustration at their alarming tendency to turn to violence as their go-to solution. Again."
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If we bomb Agrabah, we'll only create more support for evil wizard-cum-genies with talking parrots.
The street rats want the Sultan gone, we're not sure which side Gilbert Gottfried is on, people are being hyponotized by phallic snake staffs every day... it's a whole new world of socio-political instability.
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No.

It's being reported as "Once again, Americans seem willing to commit to bombing anything anywhere, even if it's a fictional target from a children's' animated movie. Let's all through our hands up in frustration at their alarming tendency to turn to violence as their go-to solution. Again."

Well, otherwise there's just a load of hardware (about 4% of the whole economy, from memory) lying around donig nothing. That would be inefficient.
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Other than grabbing sleazy headlines, why do they put in trick questions?
To see if people are willing to express opinions on subjects they know nothing about. Which many are.
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To see if people are willing to express opinions on subjects they know nothing about. Which many are.
It is a well known phenomenon, when asked question in polls people always try to answer. Not many answer "i don't know" especially if it is a question requiring general knowledge.
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And we wouldn't know about that unless people did this with polls. Which is why they do it.
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Googling "aladdin racist" turned up this NYT piece on page one: It's Racist, But Hey, It's Disney

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Correction: July 15, 1993, Thursday Yesterday's editorial on anti-Arab prejudice contained the assertion that the ayatollahs of Iran don't represent all Arabs, or all Muslims. The people of Iran are predominantly Muslim but are not Arabs.

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Originally Posted by 16.5 View Post
Other than grabbing sleazy headlines, why do they put in trick questions?
To see how stupid and out of touch supposed voters are.
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Googling "aladdin racist"

Same search terms lead to some interesting youtube videos.

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That's really total crap. No wonder kids ideas of the Middle East are messed up. I'm just glad that we in Germany had Karl MayWP to teach us. Oh, wait...

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If we bomb Agrabah, we'll only create more support for evil wizard-cum-genies with talking parrots.
The street rats want the Sultan gone, we're not sure which side Gilbert Gottfried is on, people are being hyponotized by phallic snake staffs every day... it's a whole new world of socio-political instability.
3/10 sorry, you have TragicMonkey to compete with for this kind of thought. Perhaps TM offers lessons.
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That's not as funny a headline.

But other interesting results include.

Believe thousands of Arabs in New Jersey
cheered when the World Trade Center
[font=sans-serif]collapsed on 9/11..........36%

Support shutting down mosques in the United
[font=sans-serif]States............28%

[font=sans-serif]Support the policy of Japanese Internment.....28%
Funny how they forgot to poll Democratic primary voters on those questions. Oh, snap, Public Policy Polling is a "Democratic leaning" polling firm. They're called Democratic leaning because they only poll for Democrats.
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And nearly 20% of Democrats said the same which is maybe even more worrying.

That's one freakin' scary country you have there. At least our right-wing politicians are just uncaring dicks.

The level of geographical ignorance among the American general public is breathtaking.

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The level of geographical ignorance among the American general public is breathtaking.
Compared to their scientific, historical and mathematical ignorance?
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Ever heard of Agrabah? If you ever watched the Disney animated film Aladdin you have. That was where it was set. So, yes, it is a fictional city in an animated film.

So maybe it is understandable that 87% of Republican voters didn't know what or where the city was. What is disturbing is that 30% of them said they supported bombing it anyways! And nearly half of Trump supporters were definitely in favor of throwing down munitions on flying carpets.


http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/m...ntains-bi.html
All you have to do to see the sad state of American is to watch Jay Leno's Jay Walking and Water's World segments. I think someone did a similar thing before Jay Leno, but I can't remember the name right off hand.
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The level of geographical ignorance among the American general public is breathtaking.

Yeah, but we shouldn't be too arrogant as inhabitants of the "Western" propaganda bubble, and certainly not "partisan". There's for example this video I think caveman1917 brought to our intention recently. Would you have figured it out?

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All you have to do to see the sad state of American is to watch Jay Leno's Jay Walking and Water's World segments. I think someone did a similar thing before Jay Leno, but I can't remember the name right off hand.
I must admit the level of ignorance in America is, as was stated upthread, breathtaking; but I will insist that Jay Walking is not a good measure. (A) We don't know how many people gave the right answer before the ignorant answer was given. (B) There are people who will give the wrong answer on purpose in order to be on national TV.

Mr. Leno stole that bit from Howard Stern who was doing it 30 years ago on the radio.
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Yeah, but we shouldn't be too arrogant as inhabitants of the "Western" propaganda bubble, and certainly not "partisan". There's for example this video I think caveman1917 brought to our intention recently. Would you have figured it out?

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No, probably I wouldn't have.... but then, I am not a resident of a country that claims to be the leader of the free world.

Before agreeing to bomb the crap out of a city I had never heard of, at the very least I would want to find out exactly where it is.

If I were to ask the average American where Islamorada is, most would not know. and based on the survey linked by the OP, 30% would want to bomb it. I think the residents of Monroe County, Florida FL would be somewhat unhappy about that!

Mecca IN
Medina ID, NY, ND, OH, TN, TX
Mahomet IL
Hazen ND
Mona UT
Elkader IA
Cairo IL
Memphis TN

And there are lot more, apparently over 500 towns throughout North America have names that derive from Arabic or Islamic origins.
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Originally Posted by smartcooky View Post
I am not a resident of a country that claims to be the leader of the free world.

Fortunately something we have in common. I just cant' find this too scandalous, though, given how much that ISIS/ISIL/Daesh stuff is hyped and how their capital is named not Agrabah but Raqqa. Fear mongering is certainly en vogue and that Partisan stuff going on in the country certain to lead the free world is just silly and tiresome. Divide and conquer coming home (or is it still the "royals" behind it ?).
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Old 19th December 2015, 06:58 PM   #38
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Originally Posted by Childlike Empress View Post
Fortunately something we have in common. I just cant' find this too scandalous, though, given how much that ISIS/ISIL/Daesh stuff is hyped and how their capital is named not Agrabah but Raqqa. Fear mongering is certainly en vogue and that Partisan stuff going on in the country certain to lead the free world is just silly and tiresome. Divide and conquer coming home (or is it still the "royals" behind it ?).
Seems they felt the same way when the Nazi's were marching.
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Interestingly this fictional city sounds like the capital of one of our allies. What does that imply?
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Old 19th December 2015, 07:05 PM   #40
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Originally Posted by Travis View Post
Interestingly this fictional city sounds like the capital of one of our allies. What does that imply?
Exactly the same thing as this thread topic! NOTHING!
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