2016 AE911Truth AIA Resolution

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This years' AIA convention will be held in Philadelphia on May 19 through May 21.

As they did last year, AE911T will try to get them to pass a resolution supporting a new investigation into the collapse of WTC7.

Here is a link to the resolution. It starts on page 36.

http://www.aia.org/aiaucmp/groups/aia/documents/pdf/aiab108469.pdf

The resolution is too long to copy and paste (according to forum rules), so you will have to visit the site to read it.

If you want to donate to help AE911T attend the convention, here is a link -
http://us1.campaign-archive1.com/?u=d03bf3ffcac549c7dc7888ef5&id=634eb0c8df&e=[UNIQID]
 
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I will copy and paste this part of the resolution.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the AIA Board of Directors
shall commence the process to adopt a Position Statement, to be published
in the AIA Directory of Public Policies and Position Statements, stating both:

The AIA’s belief that incidents involving the catastrophic failure of buildings and other structures must be investigated using the highest standards of science-based investigation and analysis; and

The AIA’s support for a new investigation into the total collapse of
WTC 7.

Think about the highlighted part. Has that happened? The AIA members at AE911T think that has not happened, and that is why we need a new investigation.
 
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The AIA’s support for a new investigation into the total collapse of
WTC 7.

BS.

AIA supports NIST conclusions.

AIA doesn't want any thing to do with Gage they made it very clear.
 
I predict they will raise funds and fail worse than last year (if that's possible). They will vow to return and will ask for more funds to do so.
 
BS.

AIA supports NIST conclusions.

AIA doesn't want any thing to do with Gage they made it very clear.
Where have they said this? Also, Gage is not leading the resolution. Another AIA member is.

Where has AIA made a public statement supporting NIST's conclusions about the collapse of WTC7?
 
Where have they said this? Also, Gage is not leading the resolution. Another AIA member is.

Where has AIA made a public statement supporting NIST's conclusions about the collapse of WTC7?

Congrats. You've found another :crazy: in the ranks of the AIA.

Let us know how this works out for you guys.
 
Congrats. You've found another :crazy: in the ranks of the AIA.

Let us know how this works out for you guys.

I'm not in the AIA. That should be obvious, but I will still say it to make sure it's clear.

I assure you that I will post the results, regardless of what they are.
 
Debunking the 19 Whereas statements

Colleagues, here's an opportunity to do some fact checking on the 19 WHEREAS claims in the resolution. I am numbering them 1-19, please refer to these numbers as you sharpen your debunking pencils.

Resolution 16-3
Title: Investigation of the Total Collapse of World Trade Center Building 7
Sponsors: Daniel Barnum, FAIA and Fifty Members of the Institute
Intent: To adopt a Position Statement in support of a new investigation into the total collapse of World Trade Center Building 7 on September 11, 2001.
Text of Resolution


[1]WHEREAS, according to the AIA Public Policies and Position Statements, architects are professionally obligated to use their knowledge, skill, and experience to engage in civic life;and

[2]WHEREAS, World Trade Center Building 7 (WTC 7), a 47-story, steel-framed high-rise building, suffered a total collapse at 5:20 PM on the afternoon of September 11, 2001; and

[3]WHEREAS, the cause of the collapse of WTC 7 has become the subject of vigorous public debate, such that establishing the true cause of the collapse of WTC 7 is of great civic importance;and

[4]WHEREAS, prior to and since September 11, 2001, no steel-framed high-rise building has ever suffered a total collapse, except buildings demolished through the procedure known as controlled demolition;and

[5]WHEREAS, the collapse of WTC 7 exemplified many of the signature features of controlled demolition, including:
• Sudden onset: The roofline of WTC 7 went from being stationary to being in free fall in approximately one half-second.
• Rapidity: The roofline of WTC 7 fell to the ground in less than seven seconds.
• Free fall: For 2.25 seconds, or a third of its descent, WTC 7 fell at the rate of gravity over a distance of eight stories, meaning that the lower structure of the building provided no resistance whatsoever.
• Symmetry: WTC 7 fell directly downward through what had been the path of greatest resistance, with the debris deposited mostly inside the building’s footprint.
• Explosions and window breakage: Video shows vertical sequences of explosions and window breakage running up the north face of WTC 7 as it began to collapse.
• Dismemberment: The steel frame of WTC 7 was almost entirely dismembered.
• Totality: The entire structure of WTC 7 collapsed to the ground, leaving no sections of the building standing; and

[6]WHEREAS, first responders and bystanders reported explosions and other phenomena suggestive of controlled demolition immediately prior to and during the collapse of WTC 7, as exemplified in the following account by a first-year NYU medical student identified as “Darryl” on 1010 Wins Radio: “[W]e heard this sound that sounded like a clap of thunder. Turned around. We were shocked to see that the building was, uh.... Well, it looked like there was a shockwave ripping through the building and the windows all busted out. It was horrifying. And then about a second later the bottom floor caved out and the building followed after that”;and

[7]WHEREAS, a CNN video captured both the sound of an explosion coming from WTC 7 and the following statements prior to the onset of the collapse:
• Unidentified voice: “You hear that?”
• Voice of emergency worker #1: “Keep your eye on that building. It’ll be coming down soon.”
• Voice of emergency worker #2: “Building is about to blow up, move it back.... We are walking back, there’s a building about to blow up. Flame and debris coming down”;
and

[8]WHEREAS, numerous experts in controlled demolition and structural engineering have attested that the collapse of WTC 7 could have only been caused by controlled demolition, as exemplified in the following statement made by Dutch demolition expert Danny Jowenko after viewing video of the collapse: “This is controlled demolition.... It's been imploded. It's a hired job, done by a team of experts”;and

[9]WHEREAS, in spite of the fact that WTC 7 had only few, small, and scattered fires and modest structural damage, the NYC Office of Emergency Management and the New York Fire Department predicted the collapse of WTC 7 with extraordinary confidence and precision, deciding to establish a safety zone around WTC 7 early in the afternoon and waiting several hours in anticipation of the building’s collapse; and

[10]WHEREAS, local authorities were so certain of WTC 7’s eventual collapse that anticipation of the collapse was widely reported in the media, as exemplified by MSNBC’s Ashleigh Banfield, who reported, “I’ve heard several reports from several different officers now that that is the building that is gonna go down next. In fact, one officer told me they’re just waiting for that to come down at this point” —and by the BBC, who erroneously began reporting the collapse 23 minutes before it actually occurred;and

[11]WHEREAS, in spite of the fact that local authorities predicted the collapse of WTC 7 with extraordinary confidence and precision, investigators for the Building Performance Study, conducted by the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) and the America
n Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE), were “stunned” by the collapse of WTC 7 and concluded in May 2002: “The specifics of the fires in WTC 7 and how they caused the building to collapse remain unknown at this time. Although the total diesel fuel on the premises contained massive potential energy, the best hypothesis has only a low probability of occurrence”;and

[12]WHEREAS, three and a half years after the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) began its investigation into the World Trade Center disaster, NIST’s lead investigator, Dr. Shyam Sunder, stated that NIST had some “preliminary hypotheses,” but conceded, “[T]ruthfully, I don’t really know. We’ve had trouble getting a handle on building No. 7”;and

[13]WHEREAS, NIST finally concluded in its 2008 report that the collapse of WTC 7 was caused by “normal office fires,” thus abandoning earlier hypotheses that diesel fuel fires or structural damage caused the collapse;and

[14]WHEREAS, according to NIST, the fires that it alleges triggered the total collapse of WTC 7 burned at temperatures “hundreds of degrees below those typically considered in design practice for establishing structural fire resistance ratings”;and

[15]WHEREAS, NIST neglected to examine steel from WTC 7 with a “Swiss cheese appearance” that had been attacked by molten iron —as documented in Appendix C of the FEMA/ASCE Building Performance Study —and instead falsely alleged that no identifiable steel was recovered from WTC 7;and

[16]WHEREAS, in its draft report for public comment, NIST falsely denied that WTC 7 entered free fall, and then acknowledged the occurrence of free fall in its final report, but falsely alleged that the occurrence of free fall was consistent with its computer model, which, in fact, does not show a period of free fall, nor does it come close to replicating the observed collapse;and

[17]WHEREAS, NIST’s computer model omitted critical structural features of WTC 7, which, in the opinion of independent engineers, had they been included, the computer model would have shown that NIST’s alleged collapse initiation mechanism had zero probability of occurring;and

[18]WHEREAS, NIST has refused to release key portions of its modeling data to engineers studying the collapse of WTC 7, claiming that to do so “might jeopardize public safety”; and

[19]WHEREAS, thousands of members of the architecture and engineering
professions, including the 97 sponsors of this resolution, believe there is sufficient evidence contradicting NIST’s explanation of the collapse of WTC 7 to warrant a new investigation.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the AIA Board of Directors shall commence the process to adopt a Position Statement, to be published in the AIA Directory of Public Policies and Position Statements, stating both:
• The AIA’s belief that incidents involving the catastrophic failure of buildings and other structures must be investigated using the highest standards of science-based investigation and analysis; and
• The AIA’s support for a new investigation into the total collapse of
WTC 7.

Let the debunking commence!
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Page 2 says fire caused the collapse. The welder paper someone else posted in another thread says fires didn't cause the collapse.

So, which excuse is it?

It doesn't matter to me. I know the buildings collapsed, and you can use whatever fantasy you want. I just noticed a direct contradiction, and I wanted to point it out.
 
[18]WHEREAS, NIST has refused to release key portions of its modeling data to engineers studying the collapse of WTC 7, claiming that to do so “might jeopardize public safety”;
I don't need to be an engineer to comment on this.

This can't be debunked because NIST did not release its data.

I wonder why they didn't. Does their excuse make sense? If architects and engineers design buildings with public safety in mind, don't you think they should have this data?
 
[8]WHEREAS, numerous experts in controlled demolition and structural engineering have attested that the collapse of WTC 7 could have only been caused by controlled demolition, as exemplified in the following statement made by Dutch demolition expert Danny Jowenko after viewing video of the collapse: “This is controlled demolition.... It's been imploded. It's a hired job, done by a team of experts”;and

Danny Jowenko was shown one angle that obscured most of the building. The penthouse was not in the video he was shown, and after viewing the collapse in context, changed his mind.
 
What if the video isn't genuine?

What if it was... spliced?

You get the tinfoil hat award of the day.

5d-tinfoil-hat-.jpg
 
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Danny Jowenko was shown one angle that obscured most of the building. The penthouse was not in the video he was shown, and after viewing the collapse in context, changed his mind.

Do we know this for sure? Maybe we can ask him.

Oh, wait. Nvm.

Dead men tell no tales.
 
Page 2 says fire caused the collapse. The welder paper someone else posted in another thread says fires didn't cause the collapse.

So, which excuse is it?

It doesn't matter to me. I know the buildings collapsed, and you can use whatever fantasy you want. I just noticed a direct contradiction, and I wanted to point it out.

Why are you changing the subject? You wanted to know when AIA had ever made a statement supporting NIST's findings and with almost 5 seconds of Google searching I was able to provide a document that satisfied your request.

The correct reply is thank you, not a derail.
 
[3]WHEREAS, the cause of the collapse of WTC 7 has become the subject of vigorous public debate, such that establishing the true cause of the collapse of WTC 7 is of great civic importance;and

This one is incorrect as well. There is no vigorous public debate. Only idiots on obscure websites.

Actual engineers and architects have long since used the NIST report's findings to help build better, safer and more fireproof buildings.

(wanna bet a fair number of them are in Dubai? LOL!!)
 
Originally Posted by
What if the video isn't genuine?

What if it was... spliced?
You get the tinfoil hat award of the day.

[qimg]http://in5d.com/images/5d-tinfoil-hat-.jpg[/qimg]

Are you saying the video wasn't spliced? Because this page proves it was:

WOODRUFF: I'm going to interrupt you, Tom Clancy. I am told Aaron Brown in New York has a development -- Aaron.

BROWN: Well, Judy, another -- just in the last few seconds, another building -- we will speculate carefully here that it was building No. 7 -- one of the buildings in support of the World Trade Center towers has collapsed. Those of you who have been with us for a while, you can see, indeed, that the smoke color has changed, gotten much lighter.

So we believe that yet another building -- this would be the third building -- has collapsed. Likely building No. 7. Although we also heard that there were problems at building No. 5. And it's possible that 1 went down, too. Again, another building in the World Trade Center complex appears now to have caved in after these attacks -- Judy.

WOODRUFF: Aaron, we're looking at these pictures, Tom Clancy and I, as we sit here in the Washington studio. And just as I come back to Tom Clancy, I want to read just a portion of the statement issued by Secretary of State Powell, Colin Powell, calling these attacks a terrible tragedy; terrible tragedy befallen not just my nation, but all of the nations of this region, all the nations of the world, all those who believe in democracy.

Tom Clancy, you were saying, sure, we can ask these questions about failed security, failed intelligence, when things go wrong. But we have every right to the ask these questions, don't we?

CLANCY: You have the right to say anything you want. But as a practical matter, of one of the things we have to do, if you want to prevent things like this from happening, is to build up defenses. And your first line of defense against terrorism is an intelligence- gathering capability. When is the last time that CNN or the news media in general said, "We ought to put more money into the human intelligence capability of the CIA." Answer: You never do it. Never.

WOODRUFF: We wouldn't take a side on something like that, anyway, in terms of what do you fund.

CLANCY: But you always take a side on saying that they have failed. Why not help them succeed once in a while?

WOODRUFF: Are you saying that they are significantly underfunded in that area? Not just the CIA but the FBI?

CLANCY: Human intelligence is de-emphasized. The FBI's job is...

WOODRUFF: Spying is what we are talking about.

CLANCY: That's what intelligence officers do, is they spy. And the CIA has 20,000 employees, about 800 of whom are actually spooks. And of them, maybe as many as two-thirds of them get outside and do spook operations.

WOODRUFF: And we know that...

CLANCY: And we need to do better that. We need to do more than that. You gather information of this type by putting people out on the streets, the same way cops gather information from informants. This isn't rocket science. This is a matter of hiring the people and letting them do the work.

WOODRUFF: I am going to turn it back over to the Aaron. My question is: how do you know what to believe? We had an Arab journalist in London just today saying we had this information a few weeks ago. It was coming. We didn't know whether or not to believe it. Back to Aaron in New York.

BROWN: Thank you. We have talked a number of times today about the fact that it is simply too dangerous for officials to get in and around these buildings. It's very, very dangerous. And the proof of that just a few moments ago, when another building in the complex -- that is the World Trade Center, or was the World Trade Center -- collapsed. We can show you what that looked like.

These are taped pictures, taken literally just a few moments ago when that building went down. We are seeing them for the first time. This is -- correct me in the booth, but I believe that was in fact a piece of tape that we got just a bit ago of the second plane hitting the south tower of the Trade Center just a little bit after 9:00 this morning.

Again, a third building at the trade center has collapsed within the last three or four minutes. Building No. 7. This is no small building, as you can see. At 47 stories, it would stand out in most American cities. It looks small, I guess, when you look at what was the 100-plus stories of the World Trade Center. But building No. 7 is 40-plus stories, almost 50, stories collapsing as well. And if we can go back to the tape and see it one more time, and I will look at it with you. Again, this occurred just in the last several moments around trade center building.

Building No. 7. 47 stories. Maureen Madden, CNN producer, is in the area. Maureen, what can you tell us? What did you see?
 
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I don't need to be an engineer to comment on this.

This can't be debunked because NIST did not release its data.

I wonder why they didn't. Does their excuse make sense? If architects and engineers design buildings with public safety in mind, don't you think they should have this data?

Have any asked for it?
 
"If architects and engineers design buildings with public safety in mind, don't you think they should have this data?"

This is a BS card played by 9/11 truth. If you want to build another WTC 7, go ahead, you can buy the plans... But why would you build another one?

lol, like saying the 9/11 CR did not mention 7 WTC collapse, or why the WTC collapse and ignoring it was not their charter... again, the BS about idiots not able to get the plans for 7 WTC, is a BS Gish Gallop falseflag opinion and fails as support for CD, or the delusional inside job.

For engineers, there is enough stuff on the Internet to develop their own data - only 911 truth engineers are incapable of action and rational claims.
 
Page 2 says fire caused the collapse. The welder paper someone else posted in another thread says fires didn't cause the collapse.

So, which excuse is it?

It doesn't matter to me. I know the buildings collapsed, and you can use whatever fantasy you want. I just noticed a direct contradiction, and I wanted to point it out.


Well that was dishonest, but you are a truther, so that's to be expected.

I'm going to post the quote again, but this time I'm going to repeat first line a few times to make sure you don't skim past it.


Immediately after collapse initiation,
Immediately after collapse initiation,
Immediately after collapse initiation,
Immediately after collapse initiation,
Immediately after collapse initiation,
Immediately after collapse initiation,
Immediately after collapse initiation, the potential energy of the structure (physical mass of the tower) above the impact floors (94th to 99th in WTC 1 and 77th to 85th in WTC 2) was re- leased, developing substantial kinetic en- ergy. The impact of this rapidly accelerating mass on the floors directly below led to overloading and subsequent failure of these floors. The additional mass of the failed floors joined that of the tower mass from above the impact area, adding to the kinetic energy impinging on the subsequent floors. The failure of successive floors was apparent in images and videos of the towers’ collapse by the compressed air expelled outward as each floor failed and fell down onto the next. This mechanism appears to have continued until dust and debris obscured the view of the collapsing towers.

As the composite floor decking was most likely quite rigid due to the continuous concrete floor, the transverse bridging trusses, and the intermediate deck support angles, failure of the floor as a whole would be expected at the connections attaching the floor to the exterior wall and core. This paper characterizes the floor truss connections on recovered structural elements of the exterior wall. Damage is reported on only the exterior wall connections as the location of the exterior panels to which they were attached was known. The failure mode survey was supported with metallographic analyses of undamaged and failed welded joints to determine the location of metallurgical failure of the main loadbearing seats. The connections used in the core area are not discussed in this paper, as few were recovered and the as-built location of those that were could not be ascertained; information on these seats can be found in Ref. 4.

Did you notice where they said "Immediately after collapse initiation"?

What they are telling you is: After impact damage, and fire initiated the collapse, this is what happened next.

But you already knew this because... this is exactly what you asked us for.

Originally Posted by FalseFlag
OK, so NIST does not investigate the collapse (after initiation) of WTC1 and WTC2. Instead they refer to the Bazant paper to explain what happens. Now, skeptics claim the paper doesn't necessarily apply to the collapses. If you take away the Bazant paper, then there is NOTHING that explains the collapse, other than skeptics on forums like this.

And skeptics have no problem with this?

Wow.


Did you notice that they also explained the outward and downward motion you have been asking for ?

The failure of successive floors was apparent in images and videos of the towers’ collapse by the compressed air expelled outward as each floor failed and fell down onto the next. This mechanism appears to have continued until dust and debris obscured the view of the collapsing towers.
 
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This years' AIA convention will be held in Philadelphia on May 19 through May 21.

As they did last year, AE911T will try to get them to pass a resolution supporting a new investigation into the collapse of WTC7.

Here is a link to the resolution. It starts on page 36.

http://www.aia.org/aiaucmp/groups/aia/documents/pdf/aiab108469.pdf

The resolution is too long to copy and paste (according to forum rules), so you will have to visit the site to read it.

If you want to donate to help Gage take another vacation, here is a link -
http://us1.campaign-archive1.com/?u=d03bf3ffcac549c7dc7888ef5&id=634eb0c8df&e=[UNIQID]

FYP
 
The format of that AE911 petition is funny. It's got big important-sounding serious grownup words in it like "Whereas", and then it quotes first-year medical students and says, "...WTC 7 had only few, small, and scattered fires..." As a firefighter, I think that last bit is particularly funny.

So, FalseFlag, according to you this time AE911 is going to get it right. It's almost showtime. What will you say if they are rejected again?
 
[9]WHEREAS, in spite of the fact that WTC 7 had only few, small, and scattered fires and modest structural damage, the NYC Office of Emergency Management and the New York Fire Department predicted the collapse of WTC 7 with extraordinary confidence and precision, deciding to establish a safety zone around WTC 7 early in the afternoon and waiting several hours in anticipation of the building’s collapse;

Here's a video that nicely debunks the myth of " WTC 7 had only few, small, and scattered fires":

 

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