The Renegade Jew(s) and Breitbart

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I don't normally go to Breitbart much but today I ended up there, and it is truly a sight to behold. Since Michelle Fields and Ben Shapiro and iirc some others also left, the only ones left are the balls-to-the-wall full-on Trump worshippers.

A sampling of some current headlines over there:

Ben Shapiro Throws Epic Twitter Tantrum: Exclusive Footage
(That's ex-Brietbart reporter Ben Shapiro, who is basically just mocked in that article for being a pussy and playing the victim card)

Cucked By Zuck: Establishment Conservatives Rock Up For Pointless Meeting With Facebook
("Cuck" is their new favorite insult du jour)

Bill Kristol: Republican Spoiler, Renegade Jew
More on that last one here:

Breitbart Calls Trump Foe “Renegade Jew.” This Is How Anti-Semitism Goes Mainstream.

And yes, I realize that a Jew, David Horowitz, Black Panther groupie turned pro-white race hustler, wrote the piece. In it, the famously conspiracy-minded Horowitz rails against Kristol and “a small but well-heeled group of Washington insiders” who are hoping to arrange a conservative third-party candidacy. A paragraph seemingly tacked on at the end accuses Kristol of putting world Jewry in danger by potentially splitting the Republican vote and empowering Democrats who are soft on radical Islam. It’s enough, perhaps, to give Breitbart plausible deniability; the site can claim it’s calling out Kristol on behalf of Jews, rather than calling him out as a Jew.

Really, though, what Breitbart is doing here is playing a double game, covering anti-Semitism with a tacky sheen of philo-Semitism. To define someone as a “Renegade Jew” in a column about scheming elites written for an audience full of white nationalists is to signal to the sewers. The comments under the piece suggest that Breitbart’s readers got the message. For example:

Trump rose up against the Jewish media and Jewish Hollywood and Jewsih [sic] power. HE is almost defined by his defiance of it. From Bill Kristol to Ben Shapiro to Bill Maher to Murdoch. They all hate and wil [sic] always hate Trump. Most are biding their time but soon very soon the back stabbing begins.
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Now, comment threads are always full of trash, but the precise type of trash on display here is telling. A narrative is taking shape, an American Dolchstoßlegende that will blame a potential Trump loss on conniving Semites. Horowitz and Breitbart are contributing to that legend. “Bill Kristol: Republican Spoiler, Renegade Jew” is a headline that could appear on the neo-Nazi site Stormfront. (Indeed, Stormfront has picked the piece up.) There used to be a great gap between the sort of everyday reaction on display at Breitbart and the internet’s nakedly white supremacist outposts. Thanks to Trump, that gap is shrinking.
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Puppycow said:
Ben Shapiro Throws Epic Twitter Tantrum: Exclusive Footage
(That's ex-Brietbart reporter Ben Shapiro, who is basically just mocked in that article for being a pussy and playing the victim card)
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Gee I wonder why he did that.

This cavalier attitude from House Trump toward the anti-Semitic harassment of a journalist by some of its followers is particularly troubling since Ioffe’s experience is far from an isolated example. Ben Shapiro, editor-in-chief of The Daily Wire, who quit as editor-at-large at Breitbart News over that site’s transformation into a Trump propaganda outlet, was bombarded with vile tweets after the birth of his son earlier this month, invoking lampshades and gas chambers and referring to the baby as a “cockroach.” Commentary editor John Podhoretz gets a steady stream of tweets such as “Go home kike,” “I’ve never met a Jew who wasn’t completely disgusting, inside and out. ‪#DeportJewsNow‪ #Back2Israel,” and “Are you gonna flee to Israel after TRUMP is elected president?! LMAO KIKE!!” with a photoshopped image that shows a grinning Trump about to push a button activating a gas chamber. (All these are from people whose profiles identify them as Trump supporters.)
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Make America Hate Again: Melania Trump Says Jew ‘Provoked’ Antisemitism(I know it's a Murdoch outlet but it's a solid article)

It's not exactly surprising since he can't even pass the easiest test.

 
Seems like the typical irrationality you get with Trump supporters.
 
Stacko said:
They lost it on https://twitter.com/jonathanweisman today. He retweeted some choice exemplars.
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Holy ****. Do not click to see this picture...

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Nice idea, but amateurish framing. The eye should follow the bills to the oven. Unless you really know what you're doing, the punchline should come at the end.
 
Cain said:
Nice idea, but amateurish framing. The eye should follow the bills to the oven. Unless you really know what you're doing, the punchline should come at the end.
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Well, you can't exactly put this picture upside down. Only way I can think is from left to right, where oven (with visible inside) is at right.
 
Right wing antisemitism sure lacks the subtlety of left wing antisemitism. That's probably why the latter scares me a lot more than the former.
 
sunmaster14 said:
Right wing antisemitism sure lacks the subtlety of left wing antisemitism. That's probably why the latter scares me a lot more than the former.
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Ken Livingstone scares you "a lot" more than Hitler? Because of his "subtlety". I see.
 
Craig B said:
Ken Livingstone scares you "a lot" more than Hitler? Because of his "subtlety". I see.
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Three points: (1) Hitler wasn't right-wing; (2) I am not scared of dead people; (3) Ken Livingstone is a virulent anti semite who acquired more political power in the English-speaking world than any right wing anti-semite has in a very, very long time. He was able to do this because he disguises his antisemitism as anti-Zionism, as most left-wing anti semites do.
 
sunmaster14 said:
Three points: (1) Hitler wasn't right-wing;
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Squeezing Hitler into economic-fiscally left-right spectra is a hopeless task; however there certainly was a socialist left wing of the NSDAP and other German nationalist moments, and Hitler soundly disavowed them. Famous members include Ernst Röhm, and in fact Hitler's chief sycophant Goebbels who appeared to have felt that propaganda appealing to the person of Hitler was more effective than appealing to socialist ideals at some point in the 1930s.
 
I grew up in the Bronx in such a sheltered way to think that the Holocaust couldn't happen here. Sure, I was called names occasionally by the Irish kids but I knew they had it just as bad as we did. The survivors of Auschwitz were the many old folks who lived among us, tattoos on their forearms and celebration in their hearts, and held in reverence by all. "Fascist" was used ironically. We had Republican ideological demagogues aplenty but building alliances with the Posse Comitatus was always going way too far for their strategy. Now it is here. Antisemitism is again mainstream.
 
Donald Trump can strengthen Israel by permanently sending over all our Jews. #Trump2016andForever
 
Ben Shapiro is kind of a hero of mine, then one day he pulls the pin on a grenade and dives on it -- so to speak. There is something very squirrelly about his behavior, and I think there is much more to his Breitbart exit than meets the eye.
 
dudalb said:
A.So did Catherine Zeta Jones. And the point?
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No point, really. Just that if she identifies as Jewish, then she's Jewish.

Of all people, I am definitely not a Trump supporter. I just hold no ill will toward Trump's three children who do not hunt exotic and threatened animals. Don't get me started on the other two.
 
sunmaster14 said:
Right wing antisemitism sure lacks the subtlety of left wing antisemitism. That's probably why the latter scares me a lot more than the former.
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So, taking as an example, James Wenneker von Brunn (who, for lazy readers was NOT in the SS).... his sort of anti-Semitism doesn't worry you, compared to lefty-feminists who deride Zionism. That sort of lack of subtlety?

Frazier Glenn Miller? Is that filed under the Goldwater directive "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice." The von Brunn's and the Millers of the world don't worry you as much as the left wing does. I think, as we've seen from your posts you could replace "antisemitism" with "librarians" in that statement. Or "crossing guards", or "reporters", or "mass murderers". Apparently you're just worried about the left wing.

Is there no depth some of you won't plumb in defense of your crap ideology?
 
Foolmewunz said:
So, taking as an example, James Wenneker von Brunn (who, for lazy readers was NOT in the SS).... his sort of anti-Semitism doesn't worry you, compared to lefty-feminists who deride Zionism. That sort of lack of subtlety?

Frazier Glenn Miller? Is that filed under the Goldwater directive "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice."
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Interesting that you're reaching for examples of mentally ill murderers. And ironic that you found ones that didn't even manage to injure, let alone kill, Jews. Murderers are murderers, and their ideology is merely an afterthought for such people, not a driving force. And if you bet two mentally ill anti-semites, then I raise you many more completely sane antisemitic jihadists, with hundreds or thousands more on the way thanks to Obama's policies in the Middle East.

The von Brunn's and the Millers of the world don't worry you as much as the left wing does. I think, as we've seen from your posts you could replace "antisemitism" with "librarians" in that statement. Or "crossing guards", or "reporters", or "mass murderers". Apparently you're just worried about the left wing.
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I have never, in my life, felt personally threatened by antisemitism from the right. From the left, there are too many incidents to count.
 
sunmaster14 said:
Interesting that you're reaching for examples of mentally ill murderers. And ironic that you found ones that didn't even manage to injure, let alone kill, Jews. Murderers are murderers, and their ideology is merely an afterthought for such people, not a driving force. And if you bet two mentally ill anti-semites, then I raise you many more completely sane antisemitic jihadists, with hundreds or thousands more on the way thanks to Obama's policies in the Middle East.
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Crazy people can't be conservatives? "Bigots" by definition (my definition) are insane. So if you can dismiss your mentally deranged murderers, I can dismiss mine.

I'll see your jihadists (who, you must realize are equal opportunity bigots) and raise you..... wait for it.... wait for it...

The Nazis.

See? That's how you pull a good Godwin, not by getting history wrong.


I have never, in my life, felt personally threatened by antisemitism from the right. From the left, there are too many incidents to count.
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Aren't you lucky. I'm Jewish. Are you? If not, why would you feel threatened by the radical jihadists? Well, because it's not their anti-semitism that might get you caught up as a victim, it's their generic hatred of everything the west represents. (I'll leave you to figure out if you not feeling uncomfortable with extremists on the right possibly runs deeper.)
 
Foolmewunz said:
And right wing anti-semite bigots who gun people down don't worry you?
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Not in the slightest. They are a negligible threat. I have never, as far as I know, been within 400 miles of such a person. Whereas leftists who scream in my face or invade my personal space because I don't agree with them that Israel is a fascist, apartheid state, abound. And jihadists are an increasing threat to Jews. Unfortunately, the left, particularly in Europe, wants to import more of them to the West. Jews aren't emigrating from France in record numbers because of right-wing antisemitism.
 
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