hasbara - the Jewish conspiracy to control internet discussion

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Hasbara trolls are the bane of rational discussion of Jewish or Israeli activities. And that is nowhere better demonstrated than at ISF.

So, what is hasbara, and how does it work? Fortunately this is a conspiracy in plain sight, but sometimes the view is a little clouded as on US wiki, where there is no entry for hasbara, however, there is an entry on German wiki and google will translate the page for you for a quick overview ...

wiki - hasbara

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasbara

For a critical look at hasbara trolls and their methods see ...

A Guide to Internet Trolls

http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/jonathon-blakeley-a-guide-to-hasbara-trolls.html

And for those interested in a hasbara fellowship -

Hasbara fellowships

http://www.hasbarafellowships.org/

For a critical view from Haaretz ...

Israeli Propaganda Isn't Fooling Anyone – Except Israelis

read more: http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.659480

http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.659480
 
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Yeah, trolling is what's been keeping anti-semites and neo-Nazis down. The fact that their corrupt ideas were defeated soundly 70 years ago isn't the cause at all. :D
 
Saggy said:
Hasbara trolls are the bane of rational discussion of Jewish or Israeli activities. And that is nowhere better demonstrated than at ISF.

So, what is hasbara, and how does it work? Fortunately this is a conspiracy in plain sight, but sometimes the view is a little clouded as on US wiki, where there is no entry for hasbara, however, there is an entry on German wiki and google will translate the page for you for a quick overview ...

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Depends what you mean by 'US wiki'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_diplomacy_of_Israel
 
Saggy said:
Hasbara trolls are the bane of rational discussion of Jewish or Israeli activities.
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So is this why you always run from questions and appear to be clueless about history?

Oh do you know what 'rational' means?
 
Hans said:
So is this why you always run from questions and appear to be clueless about history?

Oh do you know what 'rational' means?
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Its really fascinating to consider that he believes he does!

From Hofstadter:

"A final characteristic of the paranoid style is related to the quality of its pedantry. One of the impressive things about paranoid literature is the contrast between its fantasied conclusions and the almost touching concern with factuality it invariably shows. It produces heroic strivings for evidence to prove that the unbelievable is the only thing that can be believed. Of course, there are highbrow, lowbrow, and middlebrow paranoids, as there are likely to be in any political tendency. But respectable paranoid literature not only starts from certain moral commitments that can indeed be justified but also carefully and all but obsessively accumulates “evidence.” The difference between this “evidence” and that commonly employed by others is that it seems less a means of entering into normal political controversy than a means of warding off the profane intrusion of the secular political world. The paranoid seems to have little expectation of actually convincing a hostile world, but he can accumulate evidence in order to protect his cherished convictions from it."​​
 
Saggy said:
Hasbara trolls are the bane of rational discussion of Jewish or Israeli activities. And that is nowhere better demonstrated than at ISF.

So, what is hasbara, and how does it work? Fortunately this is a conspiracy in plain sight, but sometimes the view is a little clouded as on US wiki, where there is no entry for hasbara, however, there is an entry on German wiki and google will translate the page for you for a quick overview ...

wiki - hasbara

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasbara
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Your source does not support your claim.
 
You don't understand, first they fly us to Tel Aviv where we hang out on the beach for a week with hot topless women who have Uzis in their handbags. Then they wear us down at the nightclubs were we have do drink and dance all night.

Then they hit us with the food.

You had to be there, man, you just had to be there.
 
Saggy said:
I elucidate, you demonstrate. :)
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This is a discussion board so if you aren't prepare to discuss anything maybe you've made a mistake and need to move on?

I mean so what you really want is to post nonsense and get no contra-replies - have you ever heard of blog that has no comments? Create one of those an then you spew on without interruption.
 
Sure, it's obvious. The only reason most people believe the Holocaust happened is because everyone has been hypnotized by the evil Jewish conspiracy that rules the world.
It can't possibly be that all the evidence is actually real. It has to be those sneaky Jews again, who were never the victims of a Holocaust, but they sure should have been.
All those things people day are facts must be lies, because I can't be wrong about this conspiracy.

Yeah, nothing paranoid about that.
 
Saggy said:
Hasbara trolls are the bane of rational discussion of Jewish or Israeli activities. And that is nowhere better demonstrated than at ISF.
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Wait... are you saying that internet trolls, far from being a manifestation of a common human trait, is actually a Jewish conspiracy?
 
So... your evidence that Jewish trolls rule the world, is that on forums like this, people point out the claim is anti-Semitic?

How would we differentiate between those partaking in an organised conspiracy, and those who simply worry that the idea of a Jewish conspiracy has shades of the "Protocols of Zion" and thus, crude prejudice, about it?
 
Axxman300 said:
You don't understand, first they fly us to Tel Aviv where we hang out on the beach for a week with hot topless women who have Uzis in their handbags. Then they wear us down at the nightclubs were we have do drink and dance all night.

Then they hit us with the food.

You had to be there, man, you just had to be there.
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An example will help, here is an ad from the Israel Project ...

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But, nothing's perfect, and the Israel Project and J Street are at odds ....

'J Street and the Israel Project, a War of Words'

http://forward.com/bintel-blog/tag/jennifer-laszlo-mizrahi/

And, what's worse, some say that the image above isn't representative ...

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Saggy said:
An example will help, here is an ad from the Israel Project ...

[qimg]http://i.imgur.com/hmn8G27.png[/qimg]

But, nothing's perfect, and the Israel Project and J Street are at odds ....

'J Street and the Israel Project, a War of Words'

http://forward.com/bintel-blog/tag/jennifer-laszlo-mizrahi/

And, what's worse, some say that the image above isn't representative ...

[qimg]http://i.imgur.com/rVqttnv.png[/qimg]
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I have no idea what point you're trying to make.
 
Saggy said:
Hasbara trolls are the bane of rational discussion of Jewish or Israeli activities. And that is nowhere better demonstrated than at ISF.

So, what is hasbara, and how does it work? Fortunately this is a conspiracy in plain sight, but sometimes the view is a little clouded as on US wiki, where there is no entry for hasbara, however, there is an entry on German wiki and google will translate the page for you for a quick overview ...

wiki - hasbara

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasbara

For a critical look at hasbara trolls and their methods see ...

A Guide to Internet Trolls

http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/jonathon-blakeley-a-guide-to-hasbara-trolls.html

And for those interested in a hasbara fellowship -

Hasbara fellowships

http://www.hasbarafellowships.org/

For a critical view from Haaretz ...

Israeli Propaganda Isn't Fooling Anyone – Except Israelis

read more: http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.659480

http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.659480
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The Jewish Conspiracy Network pays better than the NeoNAZI Wackadodlle Woo Network for dumbed down Holocaust denial and general paranoid fantasy due to overwhelming ignorance.
 
Wut?

Beachnut said:

The Jewish Conspiracy Network pays better than the NeoNAZI Wackadodlle Woo Network for dumbed down Holocaust denial and general paranoid fantasy due to overwhelming ignorance.
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Yeah maybe it all means is that Saggy is upset that the Israeli's have organized to oppose organized hate directed at them?
 
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You know, at this point I'd like the jewish conspiracy to get on with their global domination plan. Maybe it'll be very good for everyone, who knows?
 
Argumemnon said:
You know, at this point I'd like the jewish conspiracy to get on with their global domination plan. Maybe it'll be very good for everyone, who knows?
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Who knows? Anyone paying attention.

For those not paying attention here is a link ....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Laws_of_Noah

"The Seven Laws of Noah (Hebrew: שבע מצוות בני נח‎‎ Sheva Mitzvot B'nei Noah), also referred to as the Noahide Laws or the Noachide Laws (from the English transliteration of the Hebrew pronunciation of "Noah"), are a set of imperatives which, according to the Talmud, were given by God [1] as a binding set of laws for the "children of Noah" – that is, all of humanity.[2][3]
Accordingly, any non-Jew who adheres to these laws because they were given by Moses[4] is regarded as a righteous gentile, and is assured of a place in the world to come (Hebrew: עולם הבא‎‎ Olam Haba), the final reward of the righteous.[5][6]
The seven Noahide laws as traditionally enumerated are the following:[7]
Do not deny God.
Do not blaspheme God.
Do not murder.
Do not engage in illicit sexual relations.
Do not steal.
Do not eat from a live animal.
Establish courts/legal system to ensure obedience to said laws."

OK, not too bad, but .......

"The Talmud lists the punishment for blaspheming the Ineffable Name of God as death. The sons of Noah are to be executed by decapitation for most crimes,[23] considered one of the lightest capital punishments"

Not so good for the goyim.
 
Saggy said:
Who knows? Anyone paying attention.

For those not paying attention here is a link ....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Laws_of_Noah

"The Seven Laws of Noah (Hebrew: שבע מצוות בני נח‎‎ Sheva Mitzvot B'nei Noah), also referred to as the Noahide Laws or the Noachide Laws (from the English transliteration of the Hebrew pronunciation of "Noah"), are a set of imperatives which, according to the Talmud, were given by God [1] as a binding set of laws for the "children of Noah" – that is, all of humanity.[2][3]
Accordingly, any non-Jew who adheres to these laws because they were given by Moses[4] is regarded as a righteous gentile, and is assured of a place in the world to come (Hebrew: עולם הבא‎‎ Olam Haba), the final reward of the righteous.[5][6]
The seven Noahide laws as traditionally enumerated are the following:[7]
Do not deny God.
Do not blaspheme God.
Do not murder.
Do not engage in illicit sexual relations.
Do not steal.
Do not eat from a live animal.
Establish courts/legal system to ensure obedience to said laws."

OK, not too bad, but .......

"The Talmud lists the punishment for blaspheming the Ineffable Name of God as death. The sons of Noah are to be executed by decapitation for most crimes,[23] considered one of the lightest capital punishments"

Not so good for the goyim.
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You should buy a new humour detector and stop taking yourself so seriously.
 
Saggy said:
Who knows? Anyone paying attention.

For those not paying attention here is a link ....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Laws_of_Noah

"The Seven Laws of Noah (Hebrew: שבע מצוות בני נח‎‎ Sheva Mitzvot B'nei Noah), also referred to as the Noahide Laws or the Noachide Laws (from the English transliteration of the Hebrew pronunciation of "Noah"), are a set of imperatives which, according to the Talmud, were given by God [1] as a binding set of laws for the "children of Noah" – that is, all of humanity.[2][3]
Accordingly, any non-Jew who adheres to these laws because they were given by Moses[4] is regarded as a righteous gentile, and is assured of a place in the world to come (Hebrew: עולם הבא‎‎ Olam Haba), the final reward of the righteous.[5][6]
The seven Noahide laws as traditionally enumerated are the following:[7]
Do not deny God.
Do not blaspheme God.
Do not murder.
Do not engage in illicit sexual relations.
Do not steal.
Do not eat from a live animal.
Establish courts/legal system to ensure obedience to said laws."

OK, not too bad, but .......

"The Talmud lists the punishment for blaspheming the Ineffable Name of God as death. The sons of Noah are to be executed by decapitation for most crimes,[23] considered one of the lightest capital punishments"

Not so good for the goyim.
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Kinda like the ten commandments then, only three fewer. Sounds good to me.
 
uke2se said:
Kinda like the ten commandments then, only three fewer. Sounds good to me.
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Yeah other early religions called for death for just about everything and the really earlier versions of religions called for human sacrifice. What is Saggy whining about?

Some Christians are still running around trying to hurt those that don't think like themselves and just a few generations ago use to kill people for disagreeing with their version of their sects.
 
I note that according to the original post, the ISF is a haven for Hasbara trolls. And yet, here we are with another Saggy thread. If this forum is infested with Hasbara trolls, they seem to be asleep at the switch.
 
bruto said:
I note that according to the original post, the ISF is a haven for Hasbara trolls. And yet, here we are with another Saggy thread. If this forum is infested with Hasbara trolls, they seem to be asleep at the switch.
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I have to say that if WE are the Hasbara we certainly aren't doing a very good job.....

I wonder if in the alt.hate world if anyone who doesn't agree with them is automatically considered a Hasbara?

Considering I spend most my time (95%) on other forums bashing and educating on archaeology and history - I wonder why I get paid by the Israelis to do that? lol
 
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Argumemnon said:
You know, at this point I'd like the jewish conspiracy to get on with their global domination plan. Maybe it'll be very good for everyone, who knows?
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Indeed, Argumemnon, Indeed.

Maybe a hint of subjugation,

followed by a pinch of enslaving

ending with a smidge of smiting ...
 
Saggy said:
An example will help, here is an ad from the Israel Project ...

[qimg]http://i.imgur.com/hmn8G27.png[/qimg]

But, nothing's perfect, and the Israel Project and J Street are at odds ....

'J Street and the Israel Project, a War of Words'

http://forward.com/bintel-blog/tag/jennifer-laszlo-mizrahi/

And, what's worse, some say that the image above isn't representative ...

[qimg]http://i.imgur.com/rVqttnv.png[/qimg]
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Could you try to be at least a little coherent?
 
Porpoise of Life said:
Could you try to be at least a little coherent?
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His words are incoherent to us because he lives in a subset of reality. So deeply submerged is he in this alternative viewpoint that he fully expects that everyone else, outside that special world of his, also knows all the jargon and inside jokes and references he does.

He doesn't realize just how isolated and out of touch he is really is and why he appears to bizarre to us.
 
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