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Old 13th September 2017, 02:32 AM   #81
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I can't believe it. It doesn't happen. Psychiatrists and economists agree that bugging and drug smuggling and looting and barking dog nuisances and the Russian mafia and bad government doesn't happen. Irish Christian Brothers are sweet lovely people.

There have never been any politicians, or show business celebrities involved in child sex rings in the past. The victims are just moaning Minnie fruitloops. There are no miscarriages of justice. Professional criminals are always convicted. It would have been reported and investigated by the mainstream media. Have the police been informed? There will never be another banking crisis. Scotland will win the world cup. Kim Jong Un will be put in charge of UN Human Rights. Head chopping is to be made legal.

What about jollity then, and Mary Berry's controversial recipe for Italian sauce?
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Old 13th September 2017, 04:40 AM   #82
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Originally Posted by Henri McPhee View Post
I can't believe it. It doesn't happen. Psychiatrists and economists agree that bugging and drug smuggling and looting and barking dog nuisances and the Russian mafia and bad government doesn't happen. Irish Christian Brothers are sweet lovely people.

There have never been any politicians, or show business celebrities involved in child sex rings in the past. The victims are just moaning Minnie fruitloops. There are no miscarriages of justice. Professional criminals are always convicted. It would have been reported and investigated by the mainstream media. Have the police been informed? There will never be another banking crisis. Scotland will win the world cup. Kim Jong Un will be put in charge of UN Human Rights. Head chopping is to be made legal.

What about jollity then, and Mary Berry's controversial recipe for Italian sauce?
Bad people exist and bad things happen. Your incredulity not withstanding, we all know that. We just don't see any evidence for Paedophiles ruling the world. The establishment where they seem to have had the greatest impact would seem to be the Catholic Church and while they have considerable influence, outside of the Vatican City they aren't ruling anywhere.
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Old 13th September 2017, 05:44 AM   #83
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What puzzles me is why, given that there are paedophiles in all walks of life, anyone would be surprised that there are some in positions of power. Indeed, it would be truly odd if there weren't any.
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Old 13th September 2017, 07:15 AM   #84
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Originally Posted by Henri McPhee View Post
I can't believe it. It doesn't happen. Psychiatrists and economists agree that bugging and drug smuggling and looting and barking dog nuisances and the Russian mafia and bad government doesn't happen. Irish Christian Brothers are sweet lovely people.

There have never been any politicians, or show business celebrities involved in child sex rings in the past. The victims are just moaning Minnie fruitloops. There are no miscarriages of justice. Professional criminals are always convicted. It would have been reported and investigated by the mainstream media. Have the police been informed? There will never be another banking crisis. Scotland will win the world cup. Kim Jong Un will be put in charge of UN Human Rights. Head chopping is to be made legal.

What about jollity then, and Mary Berry's controversial recipe for Italian sauce?
Well said. What about the rumors about Tiberius at his Capri villa?
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Old 13th September 2017, 07:43 AM   #85
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Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
One mustn't assume to much. I didnt say I believe it.
Of course you do. Don't lie. If you didn't think this was credible you wouldn't have brought it up. Now why don't you show a little backbone and take some responsibility.
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Old 13th September 2017, 08:44 AM   #86
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There is an adviser to the Queen called Judge Adrian Fulford who believes the age of consent should be reduced to four years old. That's controversial. I don't know what his legal advice to the Queen is unless it's to protect the Queen from any corruption scandals. He was subsequently elected at the United Nations in 2003 to serve as a judge in the International Criminal Court. The victims need a firm of solicitors thoroughly acquainted with the whole business.

There is some background information to this from a Daily Mail article in 2014:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...nders-jail.htm

and:

http://www.butlincat.com/2017/07/26/...him-25-july-17
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The Dutch have an actual pedophile political party called the Party for Neighbourly Love, Freedom, and Diversity. They want a legal sex age of 12.
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Pedophiles Rule the World

Lock up the animals at the zoo!
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Originally Posted by Imhotep View Post
The Dutch have an actual pedophile political party called the Party for Neighbourly Love, Freedom, and Diversity. They want a legal sex age of 12.
And they're in power, doubtless.
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Old 13th September 2017, 10:05 AM   #90
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Originally Posted by MikeG View Post
What puzzles me is why, given that there are paedophiles in all walks of life, anyone would be surprised that there are some in positions of power. Indeed, it would be truly odd if there weren't any.

It is no surprise. Under coverage by media is more of a surprise and perhaps a bigger part of the problem.
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At Least 11 Mayors Accused Of Child Sex-Related Crimes Since 2016Photo of Peter HassonPeter Hasson d

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Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
One mustn't assume to much. I didnt say I believe it.
Then I find it odd you would make the statements in your OP without stating that you were simply discussing the views of others.
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Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
How would one know whether this guy Craig Sawyer is getting results / for real?
Veterans vs pedos.

https://www.vets4childrescue.org/

He speaks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ty1ibQV_Gjk
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Sawyer is a trained operator with a good track record.

Gunderson had a good record w/ the F.B.I. before he lost his marbles and went down the same road.
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At Least 11 Mayors Accused Of Child Sex-Related Crimes Since 2016
And oddly enough none of them were mayors of Hollywood or Europe. Most of them were mayors of small towns (with the exceptions of the mayor of Seattle and Stockton, CA).
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Crimewatch host Jill Dando murdered, was about to expose big names on BBC, show canceled.

and will Trump go after pedophiles in power in US.

Bill Clinton on board pedophile Epstein's orgy plane at least 26 times.

London police confirmed allegations, then investigation stops.

Pedophiles Rule the World

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1GQehNcZZw
Isn't this thread supposed to belong to the Religion and Philosophy subforum? I mean, they're obsessed with this topic over there.
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Old 13th September 2017, 11:39 AM   #96
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There is an adviser to the Queen called Judge Adrian Fulford who believes the age of consent should be reduced to four years old.
He was involved with a group that was linked to a different group that believes that. A cause for some concern but not exactly the same thing. He denies believing that and was cleared after an investigation.
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Isn't this thread supposed to belong to the Religion and Philosophy subforum? I mean, they're obsessed with this topic over there.
Yet here everyone is debating with flat out baloney.
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And they're in power, doubtless.
If one happened to be elected, yes there would be another pedo in power.
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If one happened to be elected, yes there would be another pedo in power.
And? Why does anyone else's sexuality interest you? What difference does it make to their ability to contribute to the smooth running of the country?
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Flight logs have Bill Clinton 26 times aboard the “Lolita Express” owned by his pedo pal Jeffrey Epstein.

Wikipedia on Epstein:

In March 2005, a woman contacted Palm Beach, Florida police and alleged that her 14-year-old stepdaughter had been taken to Jeffrey Epstein's mansion by an older girl. There she was paid $300 to strip and massage Epstein.[11] She had undressed, but left the encounter wearing her underwear.[20]

Police started an 11-month undercover investigation of Epstein, followed by a search of his home. The FBI also became involved in the investigation.[9] Subsequently, the police alleged that Epstein had paid several escorts to perform sexual acts on him. Interviews with five alleged victims and 17 witnesses under oath, a high school transcript, and other items they found in Epstein's trash and home allegedly showed that some of the girls involved were under 18.[21] The police search of Epstein's home found large numbers of photos of girls throughout the house, some of whom the police had interviewed in the course of their investigation.[20]

The International Business Times reported that papers filed in a 2006 lawsuit alleged that Epstein installed concealed cameras in numerous places on his property to record sexual activity with underage girls by prominent people for criminal purposes such as blackmail.[22] Epstein allegedly "loaned" girls to powerful people to ingratiate himself with them and also to gain possible blackmail information.[9] In 2015, evidence came to light that one of the powerful men at Epstein's mansion may have been Prince Andrew of the UK.[9]

A former employee told the police that Epstein would receive massages three times a day.[20] Eventually the FBI received accounts from about 40 girls whose allegations of molestation by Epstein included overlapping details.[
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And? Why does anyone else's sexuality interest you? What difference does it make to their ability to contribute to the smooth running of the country?
This particular form of sexuality is illegal and often leads to conspiracies. A person in a position of power has more power to abuse.
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Yet here everyone is debating with flat out baloney.
Do you mean scepticism is the notorious absentee here?
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And? Why does anyone else's sexuality interest you? What difference does it make to their ability to contribute to the smooth running of the country?
For one thing, this:

Quote:
QUOTE by Imhotep
This particular form of sexuality is illegal and often leads to conspiracies. A person in a position of power has more power to abuse.

Well, criminal sexuality (pedos in power) should get a lot more attention.

Also I should have emphasized more the media under-reporting the crimes because that is about half or more of the problem. By definition, any media not reporting it is fake media.

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..........I should have emphasized more the media under-reporting the crimes because that is about half or more of the problem. By definition, any media not reporting it is fake media.
Crap. You do understand that unless the media have evidence they can defend in court that making such accusations leaves them open to being sued out of existence? Where they have such evidence, here at least they spread it all over the front pages.
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Was the thread's tittle written by a typical Biblebeltian? Certainly its sensitivity points that way "Pedophiles in power in Europe and hollywood(SIC)" ... yes, where the culture of degeneration comes from ... alleluia!
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It's what has made America great. And following the election of Trump it will MAGA.
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Was the thread's tittle written by a typical Biblebeltian? Certainly its sensitivity points that way "Pedophiles in power in Europe and hollywood(SIC)" ... yes, where the culture of degeneration comes from ... alleluia!
Hey, don't knock Hollywood, or free markets (as in, "serve the largest profitable market segments well"). That marvelous combo has given me well over a half century of nearly all-white world history, and wingnuts who now quote lines from movies as valid political points, replete with bobble-headed nodding. "If Dirty Harry said it, it is all good." How else am I supposed to get fancy CGI movies that today are helping to convince the jug-and-washboard crowd that angels and demons are for real, and Tarzan rode a T-Rex? It just doesn't get any better!
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Hey, don't knock Hollywood, or free markets (as in, "serve the largest profitable market segments well"). That marvelous combo has given me well over a half century of nearly all-white world history, and wingnuts who now quote lines from movies as valid political points, replete with bobble-headed nodding. "If Dirty Harry said it, it is all good." How else am I supposed to get fancy CGI movies that today are helping to convince the jug-and-washboard crowd that angels and demons are for real, and Tarzan rode a T-Rex? It just doesn't get any better!
Well, I can't certainly object of a President Reagan, but isn't Donald Trump really just a case of pedophilia and power? (Notice that I'm talking of pedo... from Latin peditum and not from Greek paidós...)
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Flight logs have Bill Clinton 26 times aboard the “Lolita Express” owned by his pedo pal Jeffrey Epstein.

Wikipedia on Epstein:

In March 2005, a woman contacted Palm Beach, Florida police and alleged that her 14-year-old stepdaughter had been taken to Jeffrey Epstein's mansion by an older girl. There she was paid $300 to strip and massage Epstein.[11] She had undressed, but left the encounter wearing her underwear.[20]

Police started an 11-month undercover investigation of Epstein, followed by a search of his home. The FBI also became involved in the investigation.[9] Subsequently, the police alleged that Epstein had paid several escorts to perform sexual acts on him. Interviews with five alleged victims and 17 witnesses under oath, a high school transcript, and other items they found in Epstein's trash and home allegedly showed that some of the girls involved were under 18.[21] The police search of Epstein's home found large numbers of photos of girls throughout the house, some of whom the police had interviewed in the course of their investigation.[20]

The International Business Times reported that papers filed in a 2006 lawsuit alleged that Epstein installed concealed cameras in numerous places on his property to record sexual activity with underage girls by prominent people for criminal purposes such as blackmail.[22] Epstein allegedly "loaned" girls to powerful people to ingratiate himself with them and also to gain possible blackmail information.[9] In 2015, evidence came to light that one of the powerful men at Epstein's mansion may have been Prince Andrew of the UK.[9]

A former employee told the police that Epstein would receive massages three times a day.[20] Eventually the FBI received accounts from about 40 girls whose allegations of molestation by Epstein included overlapping details.[
Were children on those flights and did Clinton have sex with them? Did Bill Clinton know about Epstein's activities? If the cameras existed, where is the video?
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As for Adrian Fulford, the claim was investigated and found entirely without merit. Quelle surprise.
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Good point. This thread was misplaced. It should be in Politics, or Social Issues & Current Events.
It's in absolutely the correct forum.

It fits perfectly here because rather than a discussion of the facts including you describing in clear concise language what you perceive the importance of these allegations to be and the implications for society you only engage in JAQ'ing off.

As always in your threads, past the op, you attempt to portray your contributions along the lines of Me (bubba) and you (other poster) against the OP while not clearly stating why any of the flights of fancy you come up with are worthy of discussion. You can't engage in discussion if you are incapable of making any clear point on any aspect of the material under discussion.

Just so you know the difference between a clear point and ambiguous jive:

"Your dog is ugly". Is a clearly understood statement.

Your dog? Isn't.

When you eventually get to the point in your communication skills where we can understand that you have a dog and from a clear description from you can determine if it's worthy of discussion, any thread you post belongs right here.
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For one thing, this:




Well, criminal sexuality (pedos in power) should get a lot more attention.

Also I should have emphasized more the media under-reporting the crimes because that is about half or more of the problem. By definition, any media not reporting it is fake media.

Under-reporting versus what?
What's the incidence of child sex abuse vs. other crimes?
What's the percentage of child sex abuse incidents reported vs. other crimes?
By what media, in what country?

Here, I've left you a space to provide evidence for your claims:

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Why are conspiracy theorists so utterly OBSESSED with finding pedophilia everywhere? I swear, as a concept, it shows up more than scary Jews. And always in the context of "rings."

I am well aware there are pedophiles all over the place in the real world, but these obsessive, constant theories are just creepy to me. People need to get off the net more!

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Old 18th September 2017, 06:52 PM   #114
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The Dutch have had an actual pedophile political party called the Party for Neighbourly Love, Freedom, and Diversity. They want a legal sex age of 12.
FTFY. They tried to get on the ballot in 2006 and in 2010, but couldn't even get the required 30 signatures of support per district for that. They disbanded themselves in 2012. The party had personal links with the pro-paedophilia association Martijn which was disbanded by court order in 2014.
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I just had a small pizza, with Parmesan cheese sprinkled on top.
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Old 18th September 2017, 07:17 PM   #116
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Originally Posted by isissxn View Post
Why are conspiracy theorists so utterly OBSESSED with finding pedophilia everywhere? I swear, as a concept, it shows up more than scary Jews. And always in the context of "rings."

I am well aware there are pedophiles all over the place in the real world, but these obsessive, constant theories are just creepy to me. People need to get off the net more!

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I just had a small pizza, with Parmesan cheese sprinkled on top.
You monster.
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Old 18th September 2017, 10:55 PM   #118
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Originally Posted by isissxn View Post
Why are conspiracy theorists so utterly OBSESSED with finding pedophilia everywhere? I swear, as a concept, it shows up more than scary Jews. And always in the context of "rings."

I am well aware there are pedophiles all over the place in the real world, but these obsessive, constant theories are just creepy to me. People need to get off the net more!

ETA - Especially thee, Bubba. Go outside!
It makes me wonder if a lot of those that see it everywhere are actullay the ones with the problem.
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Old 19th September 2017, 03:57 AM   #119
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Originally Posted by isissxn View Post
Why are conspiracy theorists so utterly OBSESSED with finding pedophilia everywhere? I swear, as a concept, it shows up more than scary Jews. And always in the context of "rings."

I am well aware there are pedophiles all over the place in the real world, but these obsessive, constant theories are just creepy to me. People need to get off the net more!

ETA - Especially thee, Bubba. Go outside!
Because, according to the CTer I used to speak to, "They" want to legalise Pedophilia (and Bestiality according to this Alan Watt guy) for some reason (never finished that video, because Watt went on about random things and I almost fell asleep, so.).
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Crimewatch host Jill Dando murdered, was about to expose big names on BBC, show canceled.
Show cancelled still running, 18 years later. Story falls apart in its first sentence.
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